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I'm not trying to blackpill here, but is it honestly just over?
There is no way we're going to deport like 60% of our populations, and thats already the rate of foreigners in most western nations
Is there any solution left? Balkanization and civil wars??
It feels over, honestly
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>>526235435
Gotta actually fight for it.
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>>526235435
We all know how this is going to end. We have to pretend that we don't, but we do.
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>>526235435
Well then they just die and suffocate in the matter of 20-50 seconds
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>>526235435
that's a japanese.
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>>526235435
If welfare ended they would all leave
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>>526235435
>Is there any solution left?
there is, but you'd mock him if his showed his face because you don't want to hear reality.
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>>526235435
She aint white either look at those mongol eyes
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>>526235435
You call russians mongols for like lest then 1% admixture that happend 600 years ago. Of course its over lol.
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>>526235617
>this
its sad but true, we all know where this is going and its not going anywhere good.
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>>526235435

They'll eat each other eventually and maybe centuries later through environmental adaptation or genetic lottery a white person will be born again
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>>526235804
>Shitalian talking about “whiteness”
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>>526235435
>white people
unemployed, lazy, obese, gay and impotent
>browns
part of the elite, highly educated, have many children, workaholics

sry westernbros
it was fun while it lasted but the entirety of eastern Europe who came as first wave of immigrants has been prophecying everything that is currently happening to you and you never listened
at least we got to taste the sweet pussies of your women
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Genocide or Extinction, your only option conservacucks
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That goes of course as well for socialist in parliaments, financiers employee in banks and their children in public schools, their sons and daughters in universities, their parents in nursing homes and every other one in a closed room, like subsidized housing projects. 2-4 billion people world wide die between march 26 and 2035
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>>526235435
Asians look so good with blonde hair,
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>>526235435
Mass deportations is just the latest way to get the vote from right leaning people. It's a lie and is never going to happen. For a start it is simply illegal to deport millions of legal citizens on the basis that they are foreign and brown. I could list a plethora of other reasons why it's a scam but I simply can't be bothered because I already gave up years ago.
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>>526236135
Blue eyes too
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>>526235435
Why would she attend the Institute of Colored Monkey Behaviors?
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>>526235843
fucking nigger cant even make a fucking meme
i hate retards
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>>526235435
rhodesian bush war 1964
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>>526235804
Literally says chinese student, ofc she isn't white. Did you read the caption? Lol
Btw before you call me shitskin or pajeet, know that I hate pajeets more than you all combine. I pray for total pajeet elimination.
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>>526235435

Sorry but there are no borders in most of the wold anymore. People from shit torn poor no natrual resource areas (like africa) have all seen pics and videos on cell phones of Much better places to live then where they currently reside and they (like anyone human with sense) are heading that way.


in the most simple terms :
its over
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Hopefully our brown replacements will treat us as well as we treated them.
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>>526235435
All of these dudes now begging me for a job. Saar you have internship saar? Can you host visa saar? I can freelance saar
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>>526235435
It's sad to see such a pretty girl near such gross verminous scum roach trash.
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>>526236350
Are you changing me bro?
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>>526236404
Have you been living under the rock? They won't.
Don't you see them tearing down statues of your historical figures? Don't you see them commit violent and sexual crimes against European race and gloat about it? Don't you see them stealing your jobs for lower wages and then be arrogant about it? They will destroy everything you've built and then blame you for it.
Every company with brown CEO goes to shit. Microsoft is total garbage now, twitter was shit until elon took it. Brown people just aren't capable of building and running stuff. They are only good for leeching and Jews know that hence they use them against you as a bio weapon.
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>>526235435
>the closest thing to a white person is a chink bug with dyed hair and colored contacts
grim, the absolute state
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>>526235435
Yes, it is too late. There are already too many of them in our western countries. They will outbreed us and because we are a democracy they will gain more and more power over our nations, until they can take over our nations without firing a single shot.

The most frustrating part is that Ive been warning people around me about this for 20 years, 20 years ago it wasnt too late yet. But back then everybody would call me a racist. Now most of those people who called me a racist agree with me now that they see what it led to, but obviously they refuse to apologize for being retards back then and now that they want to take action, its too late.

The only options we have left to save our countries are extreme. But other nations around us will never allow any of our nations to take those extreme actions because of "muh human rights".

The west will fall, and any actions we want to take to stop it, will be stopped by suicidal lefties. Those same people wouldve been hanged 100 years ago for being a traitor to their nation, which they are.
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>>526235435
>Is there any solution left?
Nuclear war causing mutually assured destruction or colonization of Mars where whites escape to another planet
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>>526236310
Its not bad, would say hello and get turned down, but I prefer them to look asain just with blonde hair. Something about natural black hair people look great blonde and natural blonde people look great with black hair.
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It was already too late a decade ago. This is what happens when you ignore that pain in your side and it turns out to be cancer or something.

There will be no war. No burst of relief or violence. Your country will quietly slip away from you and you'll do nothing.
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>>526236810
>Something about natural black hair people
Excluding blacks because of their nappy heads and being black
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>>526236826
>This is what happens when you ignore that pain in your side and it turns out to be cancer or something.
Thanks anon... Im pretty sure its my galbladder but im an american with no health insurance so, eh.
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>>526235435
>chinese
>blonde hair
Implessive
Now let's see the picture with her natural hair color
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>>526235435
>theres no way
there absolutely is a way. There would be a period of economic reshuffling but it would end with a much stronger economy. And, desu I dont even see getting rid of 100% of shitskins as entirely necessary, but we do definitely need to get rid of at least 50% of em.
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>>526236683
Don't lose heart.
Reconquista was started by 300 christian Spanish guy.

When all the western nations fall to brown and black people, they will naturally decline due to incompetence. Then a small enclave of competent christian right wing Europeans with high fertility race, and with no burden of white guilt will excel. They can start a new reconquista. Slowly taking back all European lands. It will takes centuries but European race and God will win in the end.
Keep in mind this the worst case scenario where all is lost. There's a possibility things won't get that bad, there are millions of possibilities where you guys can still win.
Overtun window has been shifting to right since last 4 years and if this tends continue second Hitler might become a reality.
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Right now the pressure on whites means that only certain whites are breeding. Who? Those men who despite all odds will find a pussy and fill it up with their seed. Those who knock out a brownie trying to take their woman. Those who grow to 7ft2. Those who make money like its nothing. Those who are some handsome they get harems. The absolute number of whites might drop and be diluted by the brown hordes, but what remains will be demigods amongst slugs. The jews by trying to wipe out Europeans are ironically putting then through a selection event more brutal than winter, ice ages, war, or plague.
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>>526237206
Back then the world wasnt globalized so it was still a possibility to take extreme measures.
Nowadays if even a remotely right-wing politician or group suggests any sort of solution, the entire world is quickly to condemn it. And thats just ideas, let alone actions.
Imagine if we had a plan to round up all the Muslims and send them back to country of origin. This wouldnt even last a single day until the entire world sees it and they will condemn you, put sanctions on your country, sever diplomatic ties, or even go to war with you.

It simply is not happening
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>>526236810
Yeah, they look good no matter what they do tbqh
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>>526235435
Over. The last hurrah was Hitler. Enjoy the slow, pacified descent into hell anon. It could be worse, and it definitely will be.
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>>526237504
Kill yourself you yellow fever insectoid loving gook fucker
Ih wait you probably inly goon to gooks and never have been with one because you are that pathetic. Too pathetic to even get a gook meanwhile its already pathetic to settle for a gook. (EVERYONE judges you and knows you needed some passport wife)
Kill yourself you fat loser stop worshiping asian women
They are whores they are cheaters they are just as bad as any other women you are just VERY easily fooled by caned on makeup and idealized womens virtues enforced by MALE created anime/manga
You are sad
Sad and pathetic
Go jerk of to your little slant eye me so sucky sucky
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>>526236350
How about now
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>>526237472
Yea that's true and that's why I don't think it will happen now.
Reconquest will begin maybe in a century from now when most countries are in shambles and at conflict with one another because of wipe spread incompetence and because all the immigrants west is taking don't get along with one another. They are only united right now because Jews have painted white men as the big bad baddie ther every non white needs to united against.
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>>526237472

the entire world doesnt care, its literally just white people countries that do. once the pro migration hypnosis is broken we will see very radical moves happen. and you will see the hypnosis break, because jews intend on making whites and their pets fight each other so they can achieve AGI and techno utopia while retaining their power.
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>>526235435
Yes, we conquer your shithole and genocide the population, then repopulate it with actual humans (Americans).
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>>526237748
>Kill yourself you yellow fever insectoid loving gook fucker…
t.
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>>526236640
Are you indian , if you are indian you should kill by white people you deserve that. men like you are snake you don't deserve mercy
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>>526235435
why’d she dye her hair blonde?
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>>526235435
keeps posting same single image and even that is of questionable origin, polfags keep getting baited by muh immigratrion death. it never changes
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>>526237764
Fuck it
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>>526235677
Japs don't dye their hair like that, it's also not Japanese hairstyle
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>>526235435
>Image rel
She probably went into computer science or something like engineering that's why it's like that.
But on the deportation problem, we use them as drone bait in the upcoming world war.
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>>526235435
It's hard to tell. Is she actually beautiful, or just relative to the sea of shit golems surrounding her?
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>>526235435
The first thing everyone needs to do is get away from American politics, specifically right-wing. This goes especially for Europe, who is suffering the importation of our rightoid neo-neoconservatism politics.
We need to acknowledge our global plight and realize the we, as a race, are leaderless and not represented by our respective governments. We are dominated by ZOG. And America is the ultimate HQ of this power.
This means we have to reject conservatism and this push to vote and participate in the upcoming ZOG wars.
Not participating in a broken system and not giving it the blood and sweat it demands is the first step. From there, we can explore options as things develop.
We have to save ourselves.
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Nuclear war and we are in a better position than we are now with gay jewish liberalism, were racemixing is promoted 24/7, so fuck this shit. We have had worse times in the past
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>>526238020
Because she has black hair and eyes like her fellow jeet graduates.
How else is she going to be an attention whore for photos?
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>>526238139
So stop feeding the system that hates us ?
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>>526235435
good
all white people should die like dogs
it feels good your countries are getting more brown everyday and you wont do shit about it
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>>526238130
I call that the jail house affect. I worked in a warehouse and this goblin of a women worked there, but guys fawned over her like she was an 8/10, because she was alt, and the only women who worked there, but on her best day was a 6/10, but it moved her to 8/10 because she was the only female in the whole place, but this asian looks much better than that goblin so I dont think its that.
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>>526236683
Daily reminder that defeatist and traitor are the same
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>>526236253
Can’t speak to England but in the US most entries were illegal so yes they can be legally kicked out
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>>526235435
it will be white enclaves for the next couple centuries. I look forward to laying on my deathbed and knowing that earth will be worse off than when I was around.
whites just have to learn the hard way unfortunately
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>>526235435
Mohammed please, we could do it in months.
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>>526235435
more rounds of jew injections, 100% cancellation of gibs.
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>>526235435
It’s a fetish. Jews and leftists want whites eradicated. It’s their life’s mission. They will not be deterred.
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>>526236135
they kind of look like elves. The women. Asian guys with blond hair look turbo gay
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>>526236253
It’s not illegal to kick out people who’ve entered illegally you cucked faggot. Go wash mahammeds car faggot
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>>526238020
Because she can
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>>526237960
Shut up Balasubramian. Fucking nigger
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>>526235435
how hard could it be to lynch streetshitter pajeets who don't even eat meat let alone lift weights?
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>>526238627
True on both accounts, haha.
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>>526235617
And all the foreign filth will self-deport when shit inevitably pops off. Just like Ukraine.
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>>526238242
ya.
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>>526238099
>Japs don't dye their hair like that
lol
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>>526237960
curse on niggerkike vishnu
black death on niggerbitch brahma
spit and shit on niggertranny shiva
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>>526237960
Yea unfortunately I am indian and I would gladly accept death from white men. I fantasize about India getting nuked along with rest of the middle east and Africa.

I hate the sight of brown people, they are so disgusting, no hygiene whatsoever, no moral compass, hypocrisy of highest magnitudes, pathological lying, constant victim playing and blaming others, no accountability, gloating about cheating, scamming and other horrible things and the list goes on. I have tried to love them but they corrupt my soul, they drain my energy and make me feel disgusted.

Snake lol? Indians aren't one race or group of people, there are like 13 manor ethnicities and languages within India. I feel no sense of kinship when I look at another indian, they look nothing like me because all Indians are mutts. That's the things about mutts, no two mutts are related.

Btw streetshitter, you will always stay shitskin.
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>>526238849
Damn dude... Beautiful
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>>526235435
>disgusting dyed blonde hair
HAHAH
IT
THINKS
ITS
HUMAN
AND
IT
THINKS
ITS
WHITE
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
STUPID
GOOK
BITCH
go fry some rice ling ling hahahahhaHAHAHAHAH
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>>526238849
Ugly as fuck she looks retarded because of her ugly asian eyes
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>>526238706
Go to hell and sure you will ass licker
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>>526238627
>Asian girls look like elves
a.k.a Rice ferries
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the best thing to have happened to india was being colonized
you see those palishitskin muzkikes seething about m-muh free gaza? you can bet your ass they're gonna keep living like 7th century savage subhumans after the kikes fuck off
that's the thing with nonwhite shitskins
incapable of building a functioning civilization, but will always be a burden to the civilized ones
india is one giant proof of what happens when the civilized people don't keep the uncivilized subhumans in check
what came of giving indians freedom? nothing but one giant shithole with over a billion subhuman shitskins who can't even practice basic hygiene, civic sense, or act like humans
imagine if whites stayed instead
india would've been a developed country on par with western countries
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>>526238926
In you dream just like you every time wish to be a white but never can be
Lick as much as you wish they will see you as they're target
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>100% aryan saar!
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>>526238939
Yeah, she cute
>>526239016
Ricels are so jello of Asian girls lol
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>>526239337
Nigger this isn’t your self help group
You nons need to fuck off back to plebbit and enjoy the dull low engagement shit hole you turned into
It will be your e-tomb
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>>526238926
Why do you hate yourself?
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>>526239994
>SAAR IF YUU CRITICIZE OUR SHITHOLE AND OUR SUBHUMAN "CULCHAAR" YUU IJ LE SELF HATER SAAR!
curse on niggerkike vishnu right now
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>>526235435
She looks like a female version of Infiltration. She's Korean not Chinese.
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On a civilizational level it's over
On an individual/familial level it's not
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>>526240694
>Koreans in Canada in a sea of Poojeets
Doubt she’s Chinese %100
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>>526235553
>Gotta actually fight for it.

Right.

You gotta be a real dumbfuck to think the government who brought them all in are suddenly going to do a 180.
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>>526236384

>Btw before you call me shitskin or pajeet, know that I hate pajeets more than you all combine. I pray for total pajeet elimination.

Nah, you're alright.

I always feel sorry for you smarter/higher-caste Indians. You're pretty much what the best of us are gonna be in a few more hundred years, if we're lucky.
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>>526239337
I don't mind them seeing me as target. Death of me as long as rest of the Indians die would be worth it, a small price for greater good.

Unironically life as a slave of white men would be less damaging to soul than my current life as upper middle class Indian. A clean environment, good air and honest people are more necessary for mental health and soul than "freedom". No one is free anyways, everyone is slave of something and I rather be slaves of European race than whatever the fuck I am slave of right now.

>>526241136
If you get chance to eliminate us, don't make exceptions, not even for so called based ones or alright ones. Because Indians are designed to notice power hierarchy, hence why they love Jews right now. They recognise Jews currently hold a lot of power and if white race takes over Indians will switch. If they realize you will show mercy to the ones who are based, they will start to act based. The ones who right now gloat about taking over west will quickly apologise and lick your ass. So do not show them any mercy.
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>>526239994
I don't hate myself lol. Neither to I hate my biological father but rest of the Indians? I hate them with everyone cell of my body. I hate all non ethnic Europeans (maybe not east Asians they are decent people who are capable of building civilization) for what they have done to European civilization.
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>>526235435
Luckily, most of the only care about being parasites. The second social benefits dry up, 70% of them easily will just go back to their own country.

Muslims will claim to want to turn Europe Muslim but they are all just liars. They are effimate faggots who will go back to their countries the second it becomes inconvenient for them

The only browns left are those that care about sex, clubs and know their home country will punish them for shit they do in the west, like drug abuse, violence, alcoholic rage etc.

Many of them like being in the west because the governments pay for their housing and food. The second they actually have to pay that shit themselves + insurance + health care etc.. They will just go back to the middle east or Africa

I guess Indians would stay forever because their home country is literally hell on earth
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>>526242215
I hope you're right but I don't see any evidence of that being the case.

After southport protests by native Brits, pakistanis and other muslims came out with machetes and that's when Brits weren't even targeting muslims. So don't you think they will organise and resist if a right wing government tried to deport them?
I know there's an argument they could only come out with machetes because current labour government and British police backs muslims. That's makes muslims feel safe enough to be violence and assert dominance.

But then look at America, which has soft right government. How many have self deported? Most have just gone in hiding hoping that democrats get in the power next election. And the ones who have self deported are spics. Spics are problematic but less tribalistic than muslims and Indians so idk if rest of the immigrants will actually self deport.

You make a very good point about how Indians will not go back regardless of what happens because india is literally hell on the earch but I believe that applies to a lot more countries, especially african countries. Europe took in loads of African migrants.
Even if you get rid of social benefits they will not leave because living in west as a poor person will literally better than living as middle class in most of these countries. Look at the image of Norwigean prison and then look at the images of indian, African and some middle eastern hotels. Heck even British prison are better than houses of some of the lower middle class Indians.
Therefore, I think European race needs to realize that the only thing these invaders will fear is death or maybe el Salvador like prisons.
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>>526238646
>>526238359
Over 150 million American residents have ancestry that dates after 1965. You are dumb niggers who are ibcapable of seeing that the jews have already successfully committed genocide against real Americans and are now working with Russia to justify doing the same in Europe.
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>>526235617
What about gene editing? Wouldn't all the jeets just edit their children's genes to give them pale skin? Why is this never discussed?
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>>526235435
>Asian
>blonde
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>>526235435
>Deport
Who said anything about deporting?
Blood makes the soil fertile.
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>>526245112
1. Gene editing is still far and with the current decay and slowdown of progress we won't get there
2. Even with gene editing it's doubtful what you can really change and to what degree. Skin and hair colour might indeed be very easy, but that won't actually result in them not being disgusting scammers. They will just be white-looking poos.
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All these Leftist who believe that there's no difference between race. But at some point, as America and Europe become browner and fall turn into Africa and the Middle East, racial differences will be undeniable.
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>>526235435
You know her real hair's the same color as theirs right?
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>>526246047
Also Gene editing wouldn't change phenotype, right? Idk how gene editing works.
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>>526235435
the women left the gates of your countries open. the invaders have already won.
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>>526235435
brother, how can something be over when it never even began?
no society ever has good times, only nostalgia
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>>526245651
Tard
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>>526246485
Phenotype is just the outward expression of your genes, so by definition it would. However if you mean that Indians would still look Indians just whiter, then yeah, but again that's because obviously you aren't going to change every single gene to get to that point. There are some genes you can isolate somewhat accurately like those deciding skin and hair colour, but you aren't going to get an exact nose shape by editing a single gene.
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>>526235435
In your fear and uncertainty it will be tempting to put your trust in some person or group who emerges and claims to have a "way out", which will involve sacrificing some of your liberty. You must resist this urge. These self‑proclaimed saviors may appear in many forms, under any number of banners: "intellectuals", "influential people", "progressive thinkers", "billionaires", "the UN", "the EU", "self‑selected multinational coalition", "global leaders", "world governments", "radicals", "revolutionaries" or some combination of these. They may appear charismatic. They may appear to have your best interests at heart. They may stand united, arm‑in‑arm, proclaiming "We know the way forward", advancing some form of "people's revolution" or "Global Reset" where "you will be in charge", hawking various "‑isms" and promises of a better tomorrow. These people are not your friends. They are not to be trusted. They are the same global banking elites using the same fear tactics, shilling the same magic potions and snake oils as always. They want only one thing: power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cieu5nDDssc
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>>526235993
>tf
>tp
kek
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>>526235435
Mega cute
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>>526246889
You are not offering a solution, you are just peddling further hopelessness and defeatism.
Do you have any solution to get rid of niggers and shitskins? If you don't anyone offering their death in exchange for freedom is offering a very sweet deal if you ask me.
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>>526235993
Yet again, the retarded yankee thinks he is any more white than a jeet
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>>526236384
>know that I hate pajeets more than you all combine
>I pray for total pajeet elimination.

flag checks out. Good luck pajeetanon I am sure your country will turn around soon...
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>>526235435
>>526245799
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>>526235435
never understood the point of the picture. if that chink didn't bleach her her she wouldn't stand out much from the poos around her.
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At some point, either before the end of this century or the next, we are going to have designer babies created by an artificial womb.

What type of babies do you think people are going to create? Browns? Or White more attractive and intelligent children?
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yes, it's been over
I take solace in the fact that I wont see the end in my lifetime
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>>526235435
It's over for the anglosphere for sure. Most of europe is fine, except France and Belgium. UK is fucked too but it's the only white country where the native population seems to be seriously fed up with the state of things and brits now openly demand deportations of brownoids. Don't know if they'll accomplish anything because Reform and Farage are definitely not going to be the ones to do it.
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>>526236384
same anon,total poopeshjeets/jeetas death
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>>526245112
> Wouldn't all the jeets just edit their children's genes to give them pale skin?
>What if instead of having a country full of brown scammers we just made them white!
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>>526235617
https://youtu.be/5QSP51TNTdQ
The cost of allowing your garden to be overrun with weeds and vermin is a controlled burn so fruits and flowers can bloom again. Shiva must never take his foot off the dwarf.
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the exact same criminal organization is posting 90% of every threads on /pol/ every day
the 4chan moderation is complicit in that abuse
they want you demoralized anon don't let them do it
you're better than that.
I believe in you
none of that shit is real
don't let them demoralize you
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>>526235435
vancouver was hong kong jr just 20 years ago
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>>526251278

seeing other races in albino always reminds me of how non human they are
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>>526236640
Maybe if we set up institutions with strict rules and regulations before we go, like ICE, then they can't be a used against white people.
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>>526235435
>There is no way we're going to deport like 60% of our populations, and thats already the rate of foreigners in most western nations
Retard.
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>>526246047
crisps is taking a while because of
"ethical concerns"
but you bet your ass china america israel and other godless nations are already producing the next gene edited generation of 6'6" super obedient high iq shabbos goyim underground
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>>526252736
shabbos goyim leaders*
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>>526235553
>Gotta actually fight for it.
no dumbass, you’ve gotta actually FUCK for it.
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>>526252988
The weird part is, I know so many White couples that tried, for a long time, but gave up after half a dozen miscarriages or years of failed coitus or at the point where the woman started developing an autoimmune disease.
They have entirely exterminated us with their vaccines and anti-baby-pills and fake söyence.
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>>526235435
>It feels over, honestly
For you Euros, it's over. You have no ability to organize, the government can literally ban the organizations and incarcerate anyone that persists (same in Canada). It's likely but not certainly so in the United States, as there are massive hurdles here, too. Would take a miracle for us to navigate those correctly.

Why do your people hate Norwegian-ness so much? What is so disgusting to you people about yourselves that you yearn for extinction? We can blame it on jews somewhat, but for the jew tricks to have worked they must have tapped into some deep-seated collective neurosis, if only just a little.
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>>526235435
Universities don't look like that yet, shitty colleges do. Maybe she should have studied harder.
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>>526245112
>What about gene editing? Wouldn't all the jeets just edit their children's genes to give them pale skin? Why is this never discussed?
Possibly, seems like a jeet thing to do. But what would it matter? They'd still be jeets neurologically (no one's editing those genes, no one will know how), and they'd still be jeets culturally. Believe it or not, there's no gene for shitting in the streets. They teach that to their offspring (I refuse to call them children). Cultures are so monumentally difficult to change it makes gene-editing look like a cakewalk. Even when we want to change cultures, turns out that it's impossible.

Conclusion: they will always be jeets, and it might even make them more dangerous when we can't tell them apart visually.



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