Why doesn't the EU just gift this pedo attention whore a collage full of "you're awesome" memes? That seems to make him the happiest.
>>526253532Tantrum having brat retard.
>>526253532Is that the biggest pedophile protector award??
>>526253532Imagine being Venezuela whatsherface there. Thinking damn you're so fine Trump with your second grade diploma I just invented on my way here
>>526253532Trump is OFFRICIALLY a nobel peace prize holder
>>526253532It doesn't stop him. Venezuela got nothing in return for smiling during this armed robbery.
>>526253532Because they're unsure if appeasement will work or fail again this time
>>526254909All that ass kissing the whole year long and it resulted in jack shit for them. Whoever will sit in the White House after Trump will spend the better part of his terms mending relationships again.
>>526255247I was meaning more of pic related
>>526254909It will work for a few months until he changes his mind again. Didn't he already make deals with EU about the tarrifs, what's the point of making deals with him if he can't honor them.
>>526255500Right. I think now, just like then, Europe has no choice but the strategy of appeasement until, or rather, IF they gain the military strength to dare posture properly in diplomacy.
>>526255623Because as the non-op swede pointed out, they don't have much of a choice other than trying to avoid confrontation, even though it should be obvious that he will want more after.
>Made a thread about him again award>Seethed in the thread award
>>526254909It costs extraordinarily little to attempt to appease him. If it works, massive success. If it doesn't work, small cost of some nice words. It's really weird how few people are willing to attempt it from a cold politics point of view. Even if you hate the guy personally you should put your national interests first.
>>526256635Anon, the problem is that by letting him just take more land, encourages him to demand more land from anyone that caves.
>>526255637Sweden has what, 5 million people? 8 million? That's as much as my one local city. I'm sorry to say that there is no way for Europe to compete directly, especially when you(r leadership) is making the most braindead decisions possible. Foregoing nuclear to rely on clean energy and gas, when you get the clean energy and gas primarily from geopolitical rivals or have retarded set ups where Norway sells geothermal energy to France and then buys it back at 5x the price. Europe has potential, for sure, but it has to completely change everything about its current society as well as suffer the short term civil unrest of kicking out many people and no longer even attempting to be the center of the world.
>>526256635The problem with the spoiled brat is that he never stops until he is told to stop. He will demand all the shiny toys and all the attention and the more you give the spoiled brat, the more it wants. The world gave Trump too much attention and now he's drunk of it. He keeps raising his demands by the day.
>>526256829I'm not talking about letting him annex Greenland but saying nice things in the media and whatever. The gifting the peace prize thing, that's a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things, 2x more so when they officially awarded Obama of all people one.Give him public praise costing nothing and walking with improved deals earning actual billions. A 1% difference in tariffs is huge.
>>526257001>until he is told to stopIf you want to drag this down to the level of child psychology, sure. Children only listen to people they like, or positions of authority. Not a single EU leader / country is in the latter due to simple economy / size, so your only hope is attempting to make yourself the former.
>>526257243>I'm not talking about letting him annex GreenlandSo you're solution is to praise him while threatening to annex greenland, and think it's going to help the situation? If anything it only would encourage him to take it more.
>>526257659your*
>>526257434Europe's bargaining chips are reduced by the fact that it's at a state of war against a nuclear power. This is also why Trump is not so keen to hand Europe a decisive victory. Rather he wants Russia closer to central Europe so EU is forced to submit to US interests fully. A European victory in Ukraine would strengthen the EU further. This is what Trump fears. Rather he wants to keep the stalemate where he can enjoy a seat of bargaining superiority.
>>526257659No, what I'm saying is that Trump's psychology is apparently well known enough that every random fuck is able to hold conversations on it, and yet what most are content to do is seethe over him for every little thing, that way, when the things they actually care about come up, their solution is... to keep seething just as hard and do nothing different. You have no power over him this way. IF you would have at least given him surface level kind words for stuff that's inconsequential, you would at least be able to withhold it for the stuff you actually care about. If you got on his good side you could warn him about the consequences of X or Y.Basically treat him like an actual person instead of Orange Man Bad avatar.The Greenland issue doesn't exist in a vacuum, by Trump's own admission. We couldn't give the explanation of national security even as a cover if there weren't competing spheres of power for instance. France and Norway are closer to Russia yet we're not talking about annexing them.
>>526253532Who knows what the real meaning of the photo is? None of us here are in the loop on it. It could've been a middle finger to whatever Euro liberals gave her the prize, it could be her saying she's with Trump and her own country instead of with the globalists.Once they gave the prize to Obama just for being a DEI hire president, it pretty much undermined the prize anyway. It made it look very globalist, so who really wants to be rewarded by the globalists for pushing their agenda.
>>526258489>No, what I'm saying is that Trump's psychology is apparently well known enough that every random fuck is able to hold conversations on itIt's not even that you fucking idiot. Look at how the first term went compared to this one. The first term had people who were intelligent enough to push back on his worst ideas, whereas this term it's unintelligent people who just say it's a great idea and we are seeing some of the more retarded ideals. You're acting as if he will relent if they appease him enough, which they've tried and it has shown to not work. But hey, maybe if they try again it will work this time.
>>526258567>it could be her saying she's with Trump and her own country instead of with the globalists.Trump is not a globalist?
>>526258432>Europe's bargaining chips are reduced by the fact that it's at a state of war against a nuclear power. It objectively and legally isn't. Ukraine is, sure. Ukraine isn't "Europe". The rest of Europe would be in no different of a state if Ukraine just rolled over and submitted. Russia already has enough resources for whatever, and their missiles can already reach the rest of Europe. It's pure posturing and moralism and it's costing them dearly. Cut Ukraine lose, if you believe war is coming, shore up your defenses, and get the article 5 ready. Instead of fighting a losing battle, bleeding your economy to death, and positioning yourself for a much worse situation that you're seemingly convinced is going to happen.Not the least of which is Ukraine's fate. If they submit they continue under Russia. If they resist they bleed their manpower to the last man, get exterminated as a people, and lose the land to Russia anyway. I'm keeping conspiracies out of this post but I could think of no better stratagem to erase the Ukrainian people completely and free the land up for recolonization than what the EU is doing to Ukraine.
>>526259098Ukraine absolutely is Europe, you dumb fucking mutt. Go read basic geography again. Your defeatist attitude is that of a faggot. Yes if EU loses Ukraine to Russia, it would be a huge blow to EU credibility and prestige. It sends the message to the whole world that it's a highly vulnerable and weak union ripe for pillaging. And Trump knows this, completely fine with letting Ukrainians die so he can keep his bargaining chip on EU.
>>526253532This thread is plagued with redditors and bots
>>526260155Ukraine isn't part of the EU.And there's nothing defeatist about seeing reality as it is. Saying Sweden has no hope of fighting Russia on its own without the rest of Europe isn't defeatist, it's realistic.
>>526260564Ukraine is Europe nonetheless and what happens in Ukraine is absolutely affecting the rest of the continent no matter how much you pretend it doesn't. This is a crossroads for EU. Let Ukraine fall and have a strengthened Russia nibble away the eastern states of EU one by one, or push the mongols back. I don't think we're as keen to reach them all the way to Vienna this time.>b-but Article 5Is dead. NATO is dead.
