>SCOTUS Case: Trump v. Barbara>Question Presented: Does Clause 1 of the 14th Amendment support Trumps EO 14160 to end birthright citizenship for children of illegals and temporary visa jeets?>Answer: YES.>Does this apply retroactively?: Yes, SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions are retroactive to the date the amendment or clause was ratified in the US Constitution. In this case that would be July 9th, 1868. >Why are SCOTUS rulings retroactive?: Because SCOTUS does not "make" new law the way legislatures do; they declare or discover what the law (including the Constitution) has always meant. A Supreme Court decision interpreting the Constitution is therefore understood as clarifying or correcting the true meaning that existed all along
>>526268003>Why are SCOTUS rulings retroactive?: Because SCOTUS does not "make" new law the way legislatures do; they declare or discover what the law (including the Constitution) has always meant. A Supreme Court decision interpreting the Constitution is therefore understood as clarifying or correcting the true meaning that existed all alongHoly fuck what an amazing loophole, time to see if anything similar can be used here.
Options available to shitlibs to overturn this if they were to gain power:>1: Shitlibs could pack the Supreme Court by doubling or tripling it size with justices that would side with a ruling that would overturn Trump v. Barbara.>2: Utilization of Article V powers that requires at least 38 states to amend the US Constitution.Basically shitlibs are shit out of luck because they will never gain power after 100+ million children of illegals and temporary visa jeets are no longer legally allowed to vote and an ICE agent is placed at every voting booth.
>>526268003how many guineas are gonna find out the hard way that their great great grandasshole actually was a wop?
>>526268003Latina illegals are soooo thirsty for white dick right now bros, and all it takes is a little broken Spanish in your tinder profile and saying you're learning and need a "maestra". And she'll never divorce you because it takes at least 10 years to get her a green card. Most are white adjacent, Christian and desperate for a gringo to say I do
>>526268568marrying a woman who is solely and explicitly looking only to take advantage of you is a very smart move. go for it, you deserve it!
What is the oppositions counter argument? >Yeah... it's heckin' ICK to bring this to the court, Your Honors.>I rest my case. Racists.
>>526268003I will donate 100 bucks to Trump’s 2028 campaign it birth right citizenship ends. Screencap this shit nigga FR
>>526268525Well they have to actually be deported as well. Words are one thing, action is another.
>>526268003here comes the scotus schizo and his vpns again
>>526268003Based
>>526268525I am assuming that when we are talking about ethnic cleansing and foreign takeovers assassinating/blackmailing justices has been on the cards for quite a while now
>>526268643Enjoy the psychotic white woman divorce raping you.
>>526268798Actually they don'tSimply stripping them of their unconstitutionally given citizenship would be enough to radically change American politics forever and who is and is not viable politically.And stripping all future borns of being unconstitutionally given citizenship will have far reaching demographic consequences for the next several centuries at a minimum.
>>526268003DID TRUMP REALLY CALL THEM TEMPORARY VISA JEETS in official documents???And you MAGAs still say he is not s racist?
>>526268950This is a false meme spread by eternal shut-ins and browns who never get to interact with real White women in real life.Nobody who matters, believes it.Lmao.
>>526268977The United States Constitution must be respected entirely, and with precise consistency. Always.
>>526269613lmao, said the 20yo
>>526268003>>526268340>retroactiveIt won't be because SCOTUS rulings cannot be used to turn people into criminals, it's called law permanence.>was it legal under an existing legal precedent?>yes>then even IF they are here illegally NOW under a new ruling, they are still legal under the old precedentThe constitution has an Ex Post Facto clause, that prevents retroactively turning people into criminals, it is usually reserved for legislation alone BUT since Trump's EO would affect existing law it DOES apply. No one is going anywhere if they already have birthright citizenship as is.
>>526270792WRONGEx Post Facto does not apply to SCOTUS rulings only to legislatures as SCOTUS does not "make law". WRONGAt worst what would happen to those who would have their unconstitutionally granted citizenship voided is that they become stateless which is not a crimeAs for their parents they were already criminals, that is what makes them ILLEGALSIn the case of statelessness SCOTUS ruled on June 23rd, 2025 that the Trump Administration is constitutionally allowed to deport people to "Third Party Nations" which is basically any nation on the planet willing to take them.
>>526271318You dumb motherfucker, naturalization acts and constitutional amendments ARE laws. The EO would fundamentally alter long-standing precedent of the 14th amendment and turn people who gained citizenship under old law into criminals, it literally cannot be done. You're a dumbass foreigner.
>>526271615>Trump would never just revoke people's citizenship and deport them to El Salvador supermax as stateless aliens
>>526271615The EO is not relevantSCOTUS is not ruling on the EO itselfThey are ruling Clause 1 of the 14th AmendmentThe EO itself is prospective because as you say the president cannot make Executive Orders that are unconstitutional HOWEVER, when SCOTUS rules in Trumps favor in Trump v. Barbara that would be a ruling the Constitution or Clause 1 of the 14th Amendment specifically and that is different than Executive Order 14160SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions are retroactive and not affected by Ex Post Facto
>>526268003>ending birthright citizenship retroactive to 1868...That would be hardcore. Who the fuck would qualify for that?My GREAT grandfather was born in Mexico, and my other GREAT GREAT grandfather was born in Slovenia (then Austro-Hungary).I bet they make it retroactive ONLY to 17 years 364 days, so that children of illegals do not become citizens at 18, and all future children of illegals won't either.
>>526268568Ya but your kids will have an IQ of 85 and be fat/ugly by age 20. If that's the best you can do then go for it but don't try to drag other people down too
>>526272252Show your tits
I've said this in previous laws but laws don't work retroactively in the US. Libshits could ban all guns tomorrow and everyone who owns one legally would be grandfathered in so it'd do fuckall
It's not going to happen, all the arguments against Wong Kim Ark are bullshit that fall apart as soon as they encounter a real attorney. No, Emer Vattel was not one of the founding fathers and citing him isn't a magic argument-winning strategy anywhere other than a cigar bar or a podcast..
>>526272640SCOTUS does not "make law"
>>526272655Wong Kim Ark supports the Trump Administrations argumentIt is (You) who must argue to overturn Precedent set in Wong Kim Ark and Elk v. Wilkins
>>526271850I wish he would but it won't happen.>>526271878>The EO is not relevantIt's literally central to the ruling, you absolute dipshit. You can see this in your own OP image that they are ruling on whether the EO is compliant with the law (it's not). They aren't ruling on any changes to interpretation of the 14th amendment in the first place. Fucking neck yourself.
>>526272684Exactly, it wouldn't work retroactively. Precident and interpretation is a big part of the law here, you can do stuff moving but not back
>>526272684Never stopped shitbag Democrat activist judges.
>>526268950My kids are white and they will survive the genetic and cultural bottleneck that whites are going through.>b..b...but what about youShut the fuck up. My kids will live on regardless and will be taught about the world one way or another. This is about them and not me and certainly not the feelings of selfish lead brained boomers like you. I actually sacrifice and do whats best for my kids and that means taking risks and putting in work but you'd never understand that because you are brown.
>>526272753>It is literally central to the rulingWRONGSCOTUS is ruling on Clause 1 of the 14th amendmentThe EO itself is not central to that rulingSCOTUS is making a ruling a constitutional question not on the EO itself
>>526268003India isn't on the list of countries, so no. Your jeets are there to stay, and in fact trump has brought more of them than any other president. You faggot RETARDS are being played so hard. The few deportations are just to placate you. Every one of them is being replaced with 2 fresh indians.
>>526272773SCOTUS precedent, the original meaning recorded in the Congressional Globe by the authors of the clause, and common law all support the Trump Administrations argument.
>>526272870She got you good huh
>>526272739Not my first rodeo faggot
>>526268534i can't wait for the long overdue mass deportation of irishmen
>>526268003based
>>526270158Wrong again.While proving that YOU don't matter.
>>526268003based. bye bye anchor spiclets
>>526268950why are troons so resentful toward white women? jelly?
>>526272169only applies to people who have both parents as non-citizens. If you have one parent that's a US citizen you're a citizen, and it has nothing to do with "birhtright citizenship", you're confusing the issue
>>526268003Total anchor grand baby deportations incoming, I told you so and I'm always right about everything.
>>526271318Natalia agrees with this analysis.>>526268003Ebin!
This is hot stuff.
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>>526268003Kek, Baron BTFO. >>526268003
>>526268525they'll probably go with undue burdenthey'll say>making peo-excuse me>forcing people to file paperwork for citizenship is so much hassle it violates their human rights
>>526272870This anon gets it.
bumping
>>526268003Cool. Shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.
>>526268643>marrying a woman who is solely and explicitly looking only to take advantage of you is a very smart move. go for it, you deserve it!That's every woman
Every time you make this thread I will remind you every time they have no way to retroactively do this because they have no records that say people got citizenship through anchor babies>kike jew shill!I wish I was wrong I am just setting you up for relativity
>>526279996relativity? Nigga in this board we abide only by newtonian physics
>>526280294*reality
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>>526268003what happens with puerto rico? My wife is from there, and she is American as apple pie with flan as a topping. Also, curious what happens with former military guys that might be affected. Any though. /op/?
>>526268568did you share this fantasy with bharatchan yet?
>>526268950pajeets are fixated on multiculturalism, race mixing and "passing" for other races, because the ulterior dream of every male or female pajeet is to breed out their original characteristics and assume another identity. rather than correcting the ancestral behaviors that resulted in their present reputation, they seek to fly by night away from their inheritance and increase the ambiguity of your lineage instead
>>526269613it's pajeets always saying it. in fact i'll add it to the list nowEVERY PAJEET SAYS≈≈≈>$45T stolen by britain ≈ abrahamic/desert/yahweh ≈ according to [AI chat product] ≈ actually jews are cool ≈ age of consent ≈ AI singularity/waifu ≈ aryan ≈ booba/sexo/would ≈ built for bbc ≈ can't breed ≈ capitalism ≈ caucasian ≈ ceo doctor technology ≈ chang seething ≈ cherry picking ≈ chess/spelling ≈ christcucks ≈ cletus ≈ consent is a western concept ≈ daily reminder ≈ divorce/divorce rape ≈ eglin afb is behind it ≈ elon/vance/vivek ≈ epstein files more important ≈ eugenics ≈ faustian spirit ≈ feminism/foids/simping ≈ fentanyl ≈ full sapport for israel ≈ good morning ≈ haplogroup ≈ [height/penis/testosterone concern] ≈ household income ≈ human capital ≈ i can pass for xyz ≈ [incel noises] ≈ indo-[whatever] ≈ [iq insecurity] ≈ jesus was jewish ≈ jidf is behind it ≈ left/right/voting matters ≈ meritocracy ≈ mom/sister on onlyfans ≈ कुछ भी महत्वपूर्ण नहीं है ≈ nordic ≈ npnw ≈ obsessed/rent-free ≈ october 7 ≈ [other ethnicity] is guilty of [pajeet thing] ≈ outcompete ≈ paganism is your real heritage ≈ rape ≈ [redditor noises] ≈ [report snitch squeal] ≈ reverse colonization/conquest ≈ saar ≈ send bobs/vagene ≈ slave morality ≈ slop ≈ state mandated [entitlement] ≈ stem skill issue ≈ stolen land ≈ stop [cars/dogs/guns/meat/etc] ≈ thanks for the rupees jidf ≈ that's a paki ≈ timmy/timmies ≈ trvth nvke ≈ voted for it ≈ we have nukes ≈ where should i move ≈ whiter than you ≈ why are white women like white people like this ≈ wiggers ≈ yamnaya ≈ you need us ≈ you will be extinct ≈ you won't do shit ≈ you worship xyz ≈ zindabad ≈ zutt
>>526273063>Your jeetswe don't claim any jeets. we have gypsies and misplaced british subjects lying to themselves. there's no such thing as an american pajeet
nigga youre posting from a canadian vpn and this is zog
pajeets should be posting on bharatchan and living on the subcontinent
