As a curious onlooker, can anyone in Europe or the US explain why import tariffs are BAD when Trump implements them, but they are GOOD when Europe implements them?
>>526271000The EU HATES its own citizens and wants to impoverish them. Prove me wrong.
>>526271000CBAM ensures carbon-intensive products made outside the EU at a cheaper price are rated up to the price it would have cost if it were made in the EU, to protect EU businesses from being undercut. Its also a climate initiative. The US uses import tariffs to threaten their own allies because they want to seize control of territory.
>>526271559so you say your carbon initiative is more important than american national security?
>>526271559>So tariffs implemented for the self-interest of Europe are good. And tariffs implemented for the self interest of the US are bad.Yes I know. But the question I asked is why is this the case?
>>526271772Can't read further down the same post retard? Confirmed bot
>>526271742sorry i dont speak to memeflags
>>526271827Honk!
>>526271228thats it
>>526271000they named it CRAMThey are laughing at us at this point
>>526271000>hurr you worship your governments like I worship Trump right???
>>526271559No more cheap Chinese (coal plant powered) goods you euros I'm afraid.
>>526272161Seems like your governments worship Trump. They literally just implemented a huge tariff this year. Why do they desperately imitate Trumpian economics?
>>526272370Trump and the euro leadership serve the same masters and use different politics as targeted marketing to sell the same dogshit to different populations. Why else would all western nations sprint all out to build totalitarian 1984 surveillance states simultaneously, despite apparently very oppositional politics?
>>526273111>Pre-Pearl Harbour Imperial Japan and United States are building identical carrier fleet formations. They must be on the same team!
>>526273518Your exame regarding international military competition doesn't apply to inward facing tyranny.
>>526273745Example *
>>526271559>restates the facts without answering the questionwhy are leftists incapable of answering the most simple questions? do your brains actually work at all?
>>526273745Why not be honest and mention that the enemies of the West have already implemented these measures in some form? So, the West would simply be catching up?My example is sound when you accept that domestic measures are part of international power conflicts. In the same way that conflicting powers would strive to produce equal weapons, they would also strive to implement the most effective domestic security systems.
>>526274074So far I haven't gotten a straight answer to the question.
>>526274131During covid, I read an article straight on the wef website, which talked about the Chinese surveillance state being a "pilot" for the west.In the uk (for example) the security state is 100% against natives while protecting the foreign originating abusers. The state itself is abusive against its own populace. Doesnt sound like the actions of a state preparing for a greater international conflict. Sounds like a state who sees its own people as the enemy and is preparing for internal conflict.
>>526274677Ok. And haven't high ranking US government officials (e.g. Vance) and US businessmen (e.g. Musk) strongly criticized the UK on that? Vance made a speech in Europe and told them to stop trampling on their native values.I'm happy to indulge all theories. But so far the evidence I can see shows that there is a widening rift opening between the ideological positions of the US and Europe. Just because they both are developing similar technological structures to monitor their domestic population certainly doesn't necessitate that they are doing it as part of a grand plan.A father who encourages his children to brush their teeth, do their homework, do some chores is not acting in concert with his neighbour who also happens to encourage his children to do the same thing.
>>526275320Words vs actions. Its divide and conquer and distraction.They are all doing the same type of thing.On his second day in office, trump announced half a trillion dollars for ai data centers. With him was Larry Ellison, who said in an interview >citizens will be on their best behavior, because everything they do and say will be watched and analyzed by ai Implicit in this is that the surveillance state will be punishing, as well as watching Whatever explanatory framework you want to utilize is worthless if ignores facts and patterns like this
>>526275320the corrupt, possibly peods, in charge aren't your father and they absolutely do not care about your being. What bizarre level of delusion is this?>UK putting person in prison for complaining about rape gangs>just your father looking out for you
>>526276451Sure. The point I was trying to make is that fathers can appear to develop identical roles within a home without having to join some Father's cabal where they devise plans together. In many cases those fathers may actually oppose one another based on their political, religious, moral positions.Your example of the UK seems to support my idea that Europe is drifting ideologically further from the US.
