Remember, the nazis weren't socialists no matter what anons on /pol/ say. Nazis were hypercapitalists, who used identity politics to divert public blame for society's problems away from the wealthy capitalists, and on to an ethnic scapegoat, AKA "the jews".
They were socialist, except you could own some private property as long as it aligned with the government. This is also known as fascism. Next.
>>526294555LMFAO, just ignoring everything. Just ignoring the actual history. Just ignoring what's posted. Just ignoring the OP. Just blocking your ears and being like "blah blah blah, nuh uh, I'm still spreading my lies to manipulate working people into voting for their own fucking enslavement under fascism"
>>526294506You're retarded.
>>526294555FPBP and checked
>>526294642You did not post a valid source, that is why we're ignoring it.
>>526294506Two in a row huhGave you overtime I guess
>>526294690It's not a meme, though, it's a source of historical information.>>526294669Nothing in that screenshot corroborates your view.
>>526294555checked. Hitler had national heathcare
>>526294907Summarize what that passage says in 1 or 2 sentences, retard.
>>526294840I did post a valid source...encyclopedia britannica, and it's also the view of every actual historian, on this matter...yup.
>>526294928He can't, because if he doesn't establish the framework first you might decide to think your own thoughts.
>>526294555This is a really good point by this jewish user. Like the country I'm from, if you step out of line, the Government will arrest you and seize your property too.
>>526294928No. It's an actual historical source on the matter. You need to read it if you want to discuss the things in this thread.
>>526295011It's just a matter of you people denying basic history. As always, like when you pretend the Holocaust didn't happen.
>>526294972Nope. Encyclopedia Britannica is not a valid source. Here's who owns that commie horseshit:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Safra>The Safra family was a merchant Jewish family originally from Aleppo, Syria, which historically made its money from financing the caravans of the Middle East.
>>526295041Hey, you fucking retard. I'm asking you to summarize what the passage in this post says, you fucking moron. >>526294669
>>526295082>you pretend the Holocaust didn't happenOK, just kys kike. Thanks for saving us the trouble and time though
>>526295140I don't need to jump through hoops for you. You're not important enough of a person to give homework assignments to anons.
>>526294506>*fart noise*
>>526295211Well, you just won't recognize basic history.
>>526295263Wow, empty platitudes of the usual sort with fascists, you really proved the world wrong with this one.
>>526295244>>526295293
>>526294506Correct natsocs are just the thugs of global capital.
>>526295346I'm not going to click on your webm. I'm uninterested in whatever it is you're posting there. I'm just noting that you posted materials in the post above which do not corroborate your own views, and which corroborate mine instead.
>>526295435
>>526294972>I did post a valid source...encyclopedia britannica,>>526295041>It's an actual historical source on the matterSo is it a for profit publishers article or is it direct source document from Nazi era Germany.Because OP pic is a britannica's summary articles with no sources mentioned.
>>526294506>they diverted attention away from the jews by blaming the jewsI don't get it, and I blame the jews for this.
>>526295521Oh well if you're posting gore you should be aware that neurological research has consistently proven it's right-wing people who freak out about that stuff. Not left-wing people, who mostly are unmoved by it. Leftists usually are the people who watch horror movies. Including me. I'm a big horror movie fan, and am watching 1 right now.
>>526295331I don't care about proving anything to randos online. Figure this shit out for yourself.
>>526295553It's a perfectly valid source, anon. No way for you to talk yourself out of it. Definitely even more laughable if your assertion is that only nazi propaganda, written by nazis themselves, should be used for historical sources.>>526295583Not what anyone said, though.
>>526295610That's fine. But what you posted was still vastly unimpressive.
>>526294642Boo fucking hoo, faggot. People aren't just going to kneel to your indoctrination and browbeating.The truth is the NSDAP and KPD were more closely aligned in the 20s and early 30s. It was pretty common for people to switch between the two groups despite them being bitter enemies. Hitler made a deal with the aristocracy for their backing of him as the Führer, and agreed not to rock the boat too much. Consequently he purged Röhm and the other "beefsteak nazis" (brownshirts on the outside, red on the inside) and the party softened it's marxist rhetoric.Nevertheless, the third reich nationalized several industries such as automotive, defense, and air travel. The modern companies of Volkswagen and Lufthansa were once owned and run by the state.So it's not like there was no socialism in Nazi Germany. It's more a question of what time and what industry.
>>526295733"Boo hoo, people aren't going to accept facts when you confront us with them,"That's all I'm hearing, here.
>>526294506>Nazis were hypercapitalistswhy are americlaps always so retarded?
>>526294506>divert public blame for society's problems away from the wealthy capitalistYou mean the jews?
>>526294506>Remember, the nazis weren't socialists no matter what anons on /pol/ say. Nazis were hypercapitalists, who used identity politics to divert public blame for society's problems away from the wealthy capitalists, and on to an ethnic scapegoat, AKA "the jews".Nationalist Capitalism is clearly the supreme political ideology for the success of the white people >N..a..t..C..a..p >i........o......n >g.......n......u >g.......g......s >e.......u >r........e >s.......m >.........y
>>526294506What defines a government as socialist or capitalist is its relation with private property on a spectrum. On one end, capitalist states ideally exist to guarantee the right to private property for private individuals. Socialist states ideally do not recognize private property and ensure that the means of production are collectively held by the people through the state.Nazi Germany did have private property, and it wasn’t particularly concerned with its abolishment on the long term (unlike modern China), but it did place capital on a subservient status in relation to the state, which then rewarded capital for its loyalty. This is a pretty ambiguous situation which is accentuated by the fact that Nazi Germany was relatively short lived, but there is a general tendency for capital to co-opt state institutions to perpetuate its reproduction if left alone. But we’re just talking about hypotheticals here, maybe they would take an anti-private property stance instead.The point is: while they were not fully socialist, they sure as well weren’t “hyper-capitalist”.
>>526295668>Post shit opinion piece>Refuse to link>Refuse to debate >Spaz out when questionedLoony troon confirmed.
I'm starting to think this Hitler guy was a real jerk.
>>526294506Hitler's economy was a mixed model but it went further than Mussolini's or even FDRs model of it.What all these 3 had in common was that the authority of the owner, whether in form or shareholders or singular man was circumvented in one way or another, in Hitler's case it was done by appointing party officials on every management ladder that could override the decisions of the actual management, which is similar to how modern day China implements state control over their corporations. Their monetary policy was basically insane(Schacht quit because of it) and I don't think it can be deducted what was their exact model because it was obviously rearm now think about financial fluidity later - by mid 1939 mepo bills were seen as toilet paper by contractors, who were forced to keep accepting contracts by the party moles regardless.This doesn't fit the definition marxists have of neither socialism or capitalism. The ownership of means or production is still in capitalist hands but the factual control over them is in hands of the state(so what is the formal ownership worth?) that among other things acts as an arbiter between labour and the business interests. This entire topic is retarded because it's not really about what the nazis were or weren't, but rather as an attempt to morally shame the other sides. Ooooooh oooooh communists literally nazeeeeeeez, nooooooooooo capitalists are real nazeeeez, no-o you, gagaga gugugu. Intellectual kindergarten.