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Why does the right hate education so much?
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It's just a different kind of brainwashing, I'd rather my child go to church
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>>526321709
maybe the dept of education was part of the problem?
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>>526321709
It sounds like the department of education isn't doing it's job if that's how uneducated kids are
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>all of this happened under the Dept of Education
Hmmm big think
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>>526321709
>people can't
>but getting rid of the thing that is supposed to make sure they can would be a stupid idea LOL
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>>526321845
>>526322357
>>526322455

No, the department of education is not the problem, it's the lack of funding. Give them more money.
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If I created the "Department of
Happiness" tomorrow and it accomplished absolutely nothing, I guarantee you leftists would complain and say R's hate happiness if I tried to close it.
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>>526321709
Turns out that when you learn a bit more you realize that the GOP doesn't know how to run an economy and minorities aren't all that scary.
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>>526321709
the federal dept of education is the cause of all those things
allowing niggers holding everyone back
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>>526321709
>oh btw, America is the most brown and the least White its ever been, what a coincidence teehee
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>>526322550
So a somali can but a 4 story house?
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>>526322550
Surely you jest!
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>>526322550
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>>526321709
im sure it doesnt correlate with the influx of non whites (it does, actually)
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>>526321709
What is the department of education doing if everyone is retarded....
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>>526321709
Basically the right lost the battle for education and so instead of recognizing it as obviously important (but the wrong propaganda was going through) they would rather blow it up.
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>>526322550
Hol up, Al. If funding was the problem then why wasn't every pupil super smart when Murica spend the most per student worldwide just a few years ago?
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>>526321709
I use reddit quite a bit. Whenever these topics come up I always ask where they work or what demographics the students have. They just get mad and wont answer. We all know the answer though.
I'm in a nice neighborhood and really enjoy math. I bought my kids the singapore math series to get more practice at home with them. Our school standards are higher than anything in singapore math, and the vast majority of kids meet those standards. Our teachers also make ~120k. So when that complaint comes up of teachers not being paid enough, its just because they're a shitty teacher in a garbage school with retarded kids.
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>>526322880
>Basically the left won the battle for education and so instead of recognizing it as obviously failing (but the right propaganda was going through) they would rather prop it up.
fixed
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>>526322550
Mo muneh for dem programs?
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>>526322550
Mo money fo dem programs
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yes if thats the end result you 100% need to get or reform it. her thinking this was a "gotcha" moment is depressing
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>>526321709
>Why does the right hate education so much?
the only way to get people to vote for rightoid ideas is if they are uneducated and uninformed

the right is basically niggerdom
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>>526321828
Fair enough, either way your kid ends up being taught to worship jews
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>>526321709
The right can only get votes from stupid people. Look at how they are using Nick Shirley. He is legitimately mentally challenged. Dude can’t have more than a 60 iq. He legally can’t even drive and has to have his mom drive him around. That is the audience the GOP needs.
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Sounds like the problem is with the population rather than any form of eduction. The cattle like masses have lived and died as serf farmers for thousands of years. They are worker drones that have been selectively bred for docility, animalistic desires and their ability to survive authoritarian abuse.
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>>526321709
We don't. We have govt because they do a shit job
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>>526323036
Kek, fucking chud hivemind got me
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>>526321709
>tfw education was dropping before the dept was cut to begin with
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>>526323028
It is hard to actually understand the mind of someone who thinks education isn't important. Education is literally what separates the western world from the unwashed brown masses. You'd rather join them instead of just firing the retarded brown communists in charge and replacing them with competent white people.
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>>526321709
All that shit happened after the department of education was founded, by the way.
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>>526323134
Beat ya homeboy B)
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>>526321709
It's easier and probably more effective to close the dept down and start over than fire everyone and restaff existing positions.
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The DoE does not educate anyone or anything. It's task is getting money to schools. Schools that are union shops. The union members seek to do as little as possible because that's the purpose of having a union.
Ask any teacher would you stay in the profession if the union was disbanded and unionization illegal.
Tech to educate. It has no agenda other than it's purpose and doesn't need a union. It just needs the union to get out of it's way.
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>>526321709
So what she's saying, is that The Department of Education fucking failed, so we should keep it.
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>>526321709
You’re telling me only the right has been in charge of education the past 24 years? Kek, you’re definitely a product of the system, you retarded nigger
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>>526323070
>what's the first thing that pops into your mind when I say Somalia, that means its true.
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>>526321709
The doe is what created that you retarded gaping anus power faggot.
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>>526321709
Typical female tweet.
>the present condition is shit
>thus it would be a bad idea to remove the cause for the present condition
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Two reasons quickly come to mind:
1) education often means just being a good cultural marxism goy if it's any education where you end up making choices for society
2) even if the education is normal people education, the people born in 80-00s are the most educated generation to ever exists and the most poor and not innovative compared to previous generations, so the education doesn't seem to help.

Sorry for the esl language but I can't be bothered, am drunk atm.

In Finland most of the innovative shit was done between 50s-90s when almost no one had any sort of education that would mean anything today. Just having education doesn't make the genetic stock or potential superior necessary.

It was only during Nokia peak years when the leaders somehow came to conclusion that if we just educate people infinitely, we will have a nice future where almost everyone can just have a nice office job.
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>>526321709
>just throw more money at the problem

Nigga the problem isn't funding, it's that the teachers being hired are either actively useless or just flat-out hate teaching. The entire profession needs a serious restructuring but they are still trying to use the old system that was first formulated in the 1800s and just tweaking a few things here and there. More money isn't going to fix little Tyrone being a retard that can't grasp basic probability or Mr. Jefferson the mathematics teacher being so fed up with students not paying attention and the milestones set out by the Department of Education not being even remotely feasible to meet that he just goes through the motions on auto-pilot until he can finally fuck off home in the afternoon.
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>>526322550
This, but replace department of education with Israel
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>>526323172
After 5th grade brick and mortar schools to prop up a union are obsolete.
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>>526323353
its just a daycare for poor people at this point
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Is education good if it's educating you in how to be a plumber or how to design plumbing? It probably is because le ai will first take the office jobs and only later come for the plumbing, and plumbing is pretty diverse as a profession so it doesn't mean swimming in shit in most cases.
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>>526321709
>nobody can read
>this means the department of education is working
Repeal the 19th
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>>526321709
>>526321845
>>526322550
it's single mothers. That's the single biggest problem in education right now.
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>>526323353
I learned a lot in college. Even my general education credits I remember a lot of things. Taking my stats class 10 years ago has still helped me to this day have a better understanding of what statistics actually are, how they're measured, what standards of deviation mean, etc. I am bringing that up because I was not a math major and yet it is something that has stuck with me. I still had a better grasp of literature and english after college even though I was not an english major.

Maybe it is just because I cared about learning or something, but I considered college to be a pretty important part of my life and it wasn't due to partying or girls or beer (I had a GF but really didn't party much). I also am employed in my field (I got a degree in engineering) and wouldn't have gotten it without my degree.
I just feel like liberal colleges with fat, ugly women taking underwater feminist holocaust studies has somehow convinced people that higher education is not an inherently western and white institution.
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>>526321709
no one is exactly sure what they do
its never really been communicated very well since education is mostly handled on the state level
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>>526321709
Education is more funded than it's ever been yet our parents got a better education with a far smaller budget. What gives?
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>>526321709
We don't have a problem with education you have.
>Left declares reading as racist
>Left declares math is racist
>Left declares science is racist
>Left declares history is racist
>Left spends money on fake classes that bring nothing to the table like gender studies and inclusiveness >>526321828
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>>526323792
Niggers, nonwhites, and women dragging everyone else around them down. A system designed to maintain submission, not uplift talents.

So just like everything else our white men are ground down in their youth instead of uplifted. Which leads to cascading degradation.

It's sick.
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>>526323286
It’s just kinda sad in a way. Right wing propaganda was never particularly sophisticated but it has degraded so much. I almost wonder if in right wing areas is there something in their water? These people were always stupid but just in the last 10 years their mental capacity has seriously diminished.
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>>526321709
>1pbtid
>twitshit
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>>526321709
all that indio cunt is complaining IS the result of having a department of education (dumbing propaganda)
so there's that
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>>526322550
>maths is racist
>english comprehension is culturally insensitive
>lack of money is the problem
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>>526322616
You are starting to understand leftist "optics propaganda". Remember the shit about the "Don't say gay"-bill in florida or something they have been seething about for a year? That bill pretty much only said not to teach elementary schoolers about sex. Or the democrats anti-immigration law that would literally let in more people and then they said republicans are for immigration because they voted against it?
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>>526323214
>>526323230
Decent answers.
Most of their budget was student loans. The gov trying to forgive those loans and all the complaints about student loan debts that can’t be repaid is evidence whoever was managing student loans was being either reckless or negligent. Universities need a big rethink, not infinite funding. Their endowments are massive already. It’s regressive to saddle kids with such debt to enrich the already rich universities
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>>526322357
>>526321845
>>526321828
>>526322473
>>526322616

Left vs Right rhetorical question spam threads (very common)

- frames the problem in binary, juvenile way
- conversation starts there and remains binary (us vs them)
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>>526323643
Always has been. Whenever you'd see a 13 year old 2nd grader, it would be the product of a single mother.
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>>526321709
The department of "education" did that.
>>526322550
>the reason why college students can't read is because we don't have enough money, chud
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>>526324449
yeah, the real problem now is how common it is though. Like half of kids are now born out of wedlock whereas it used to be a rarity. So it brings the whole school down.
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>>526324739
Oh yeah, definitely
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>>526321709
>education is horrible
>keep the administrative structure that made it horrible
Woman "logic".
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>>526321709
>Government schools
>Good
Holy shit
XD
Brutal self own
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>>526321709
Certainly the problem is multifaceted

Its the jew, the bad shepherd

Having no sacrifice for the truth
is a much bigger problem.

Women have no real place in this
as no self respecting man should put
them at risk.
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>>526323230
I would absolutely continue to teach if the union was disbanded (though the lack of job security and potential for my employer to exploit me would mean I'd need to familiarize myself more with what specific pro-worker policies my province has in place).
My union is a piece of shit that keeps incompetent people in the job and prevents raises/bonuses based on merit. There was a time when unions were necessary to help fight exploitive practices but that time was decades ago.

The biggest problem I experience in education is the lack of authority/power. Punishments (failing grades, detentions, etc...) are basically a thing of the past. Kids don't fail and outside of suspensions/expulsions, it only takes a parent complaining that little Timmy has soccer practice after school so they can't stay for a detention and suddenly there is no more consequence.
Parents have too much power and not enough parenting sense.
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>>526321709
Because the reality is that the spoils system never left politics and the Dept. of Education is the biggest example of a giant, nationwide racket between the teachers union, the federal government, and the democrat party.
>republicans do it too
yeah, mostly through the military.
None of this is radical or revolutionary, it's just a giant money scheme. None of these departments have ever achieved their goals. The benefit of the military graft is that there's usually cool shit made out of it. The downside is that it also inevitably makes large scale armed conflict more likely to keep the money train moving.
All sides are trying to get theirs and our kids are dumber but a draft isn't any more likely. So, you know. Right now the DoE is the bigger issue, niggers
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>>526321709
Looks like we don't need the department of education if that's what they produce. Teachers seem to be the only profession who doesn't have to be accountable for their own product. If the student does well we thank the teacher, if the student fails it is somehow not the teachers fault. .. And with this culture of 0 accountability we wonder why the teachers are all shit at their jobs.
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>>526323172
Or maybe we disagree with what you consider "education" you dumb fuck
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>>526321709
>Why does the right hate education so much?
I love education, I was the nerd all the way through school. Of course, for me, school had little to do with true education, it was mostly just free government daycare and a jobs program for people who got Cs in the College of Education. There wasn't even a department of education until I was already 5 years old.

Leftoids can believe anything if the (((Grand Leftoids in Charge))) assign a label to something that suggests it is that thing. You'd eat a turd if they started calling those White Guilt Atonement Cakes, and you'd screech at anyone who refused "Why won't you AAAATOOOONNNNE!?!?!?!".

There can be no common ground. You won't brainwash us into seeing your point of view. You are not human, your deaths are those of animals, of microbes. Your day approaches quickly.
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Its primarily the parents attitude towards schooling that influences whether or not a child will learn anything. If you're a parent and you act like you won't have to sit down with your kid and just go over their homework you're basically just telling your kid that you don't give a shit about their education. If your kid has a history text book literally just skim through it some day and see what they're being taught and talk with them about it. Its not hard. You don't need to ponder every syllable, its a children's textbook. You can read through that shit in less than a day. The fucking teacher isn't going to do that 99% of the time.
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>>526321709
we've been told to EEEEEDUCATEEE OURSELVES too many times
it's enough to drive anyone to hate and madness
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>>526321709
>System in place gives poor results as stated
>Get rid of it
>"Nooo, we need it!."
It performed so badly though.
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>>526321709
This was alll a problem under DOE and obviously DOE did nothing about it.

Why do zoomer retards on twatter not notice
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>>526321709
>Lists all the failures of the Department of Education.
>Says it's a bad idea to get rid of a failed system.
Logic is not the domain of the Left.
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All of these things have happened under the Department of Education.
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the founder of the department of education:



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