The first priority of any civilization should be to ensure it's populus has access to guaranteed nutritous food, clean water, satellite Internet, cellular service, game pass, mid-end PC, high-end smartphone and spaced well-built self-sustaining Earthship shelter with solar panels, water wheels and wind turbines before it scales. Also introduce mandatory farming/gardening for young adults, instead of a soldier draft you get a farming draft so retards aren't doing it in Minecraft, Fortnite, Roblox or Hytale instead. An Earthship shelter construction draft to go along with it would work too, overseen by a council of Hawaiian Maori and New Zealand druidesses. Being able to give citizens the option to NEET around while farming/building part-time and pursue their interests absent of the pressure of being literally homeless and starving would make nationwide solidarity soar. All this globalist Abrahamic war-mongering bullshit is just a distraction, an offload from all the misery people feel at the fact their country views them as disposable human garbage if they aren't equitable and live in homes they didn't build and are eating food they didn't grow.The best part is this is all literally feasible right now and would receive a ton of support. Seize the stolen wealth, land and assets from WEF bankers, CEOs, politicians like Elon Musk and Donald who have already served their function in organizing and create a syndicalist union state ran by gardeners. If they aren't building shelters or growing food they shouldn't be in politics period.
>>526333491https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glzXtLvloVo&t=316s
>>526333491I support national socialism.
>>526333491Why dont you move to Cuba them, dipshit.
>>526333491Every problem that’s popped up are primarily caused by the adoption of “Jewish values” in western countries. They value nothing besides fear and greed
>>526333491>Earthship>Feasible What?
>>526333491Sounds kind of like distributism.
>>526333491You confused capitalism with corporatism. In capitalism companies can fail no matter how big they are. If they get bailed out by the taxpayer its corporatism.
>>526333948You know your talking to one of the street groups but has same civic duties to the high tower.
>>526333491neither is communism we need to get something newsomething like a mix of the best of the two
>>526333491An impossibly naive take
>>526333491>Human nature has entered the chatYou're fucktarded
>>526333491>what is the pareto principle>what is millions starving to death>what is me posting in a gommunism thread
>>526333491Idk OP pretty much it's always been people saying "we gotta care for everyone" and then some small group going "but us especially"Like the slogan goes "the world can provide for the needs of the poor but not the wants of the rich"
In a lot of ways, capitalism is just more efficient than a totally planned economy. Capitalism does a lot of the work when it comes to spontaneous prices and coordination and stuff like that. It would be an inefficient mess if the government tried to do absolutely everything.
>>526333491try learning what capitalism is first.
>>526333812I also support National Socialism.
>capitalism is bad>actually it isnt bad i just like some free shitcapitalist/communist whiners need to be purged, which is 99.99% of the western population.
Anon elections and the economy are not real. laissez-faireStopped existing 80 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhHyU9Q_6no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNeSciqhSVA
>>526333812This. An economy should be free enough to reward individual excellence while being socialized enough that that doesn't occur at the expense of working people doing their best being denied the essentials of life. Hierarchy and racialism from the right without the jewish taint of capitalism. Economic justice and environmental sustainability from the left without the jewish taint of communism. And the great thing about National Socialism is that it's really more of a philosophy than a strict ideology. NatSoc begins and ends with " I want my people to survive, prosper, and be free of economic exploitation" and there's a lot of room for debate as to how far you slide the scales left and right on individual liberties, economic policy ect. to achieve that. But all societies that succeeded in the past by putting their people first were spiritually NatSoc. We just never really needed a word for putting your people first before jews thoroughly fucked up the world.
>>526338541That's what world peace is you fucking retard. Where the necessities for survival are free and high quality so people can live in dignity not beholden to Wall Street vampire towers. All of capitalism eventually degrades into corportocracy and Cyberpunk 2077 Arasaka if the end goal of world peace isn't established. You shouldn't have to be equitable or schadenfraude to have the right to live in dignity.
>>526334981And when capitalists buy influence you're right back to corporatism.Its a straight forward and entirely predictable evolution.
>>526333491Can't
absolutely correct
>>526333491It's not just laughably retarded, it's purposely malicious. No functional society would place capital as the be all end all metric to judge themselves by, you'd only view a class of slaves that way.
>>526333491No one can actually defend capitalism in reality. Libertarians can only appeal to abstract principles. If you force them to confront what capitalism actually is they fall apart.
>>526339458Keynesianism was good for a while. Just got to put limits on wealth and power. Having one leader is completely retarded
>>526333491Amelia would've been in favor of capitalism, so you know.
>>526340760This. Libertarians say they prefer to let the market decide things. As though the market is some metaphysical entity with wisdom beyond any reasonably intelligent person. But in reality, the market is just billions of retards deciding what goyslop they will consoom next, mostly at the behest of jewish media and advertising monopolies, not because they would actually want these things if left alone. And this all happens at the expense of their freedom, the environment, and every good thing that could exist if resources were more intentionally allocated. So Libertarians need to excuse me if I don't think the market is the best authority to let everything be decided by.
>>526341578Real Keynesianism has never been tried, I see
it's "populace," dipshit
>>526333491no way, commie, the first priority is always making sure the jewish gdp line keeps going up, even if everything else keeps getting worse.all that matters is that gdp line going up and the nice news anchor telling me everything is okay because the line went up.and if you dont like that you arent american and will be replaced with an indian or spic that will obediently worship the gdp line or at the very least not complain about it.
>>526342291It’s worse than that. The free market was always a con to bring about the monopolies we’re starting to have now. Libertarianism too.
>>526343253Imagine all those sniveling economists and influencers like Ben Shapiro, Asmongold, Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk and the Arnaults having to work a field with the sun on them from a farming draft after their equity is seized. Heaven and Earth would shatter all that remains of their vampire tower Draculan personalities.
>>526344294Yes, that's exactly it. The pitch to the commoners is that they can live like kings and own their own serfdoms through the "free market" with the illusion that it would be fair and just because of their "skill". However the "free market" doesn't favor those who worked all their life to cultivate a technical skill, it favors liars who can hoard currency through tricking skilled laborers into working for them and make them indebted through contracts and fine print the laborers didn't take the time to understand because they assumed if they'd worked hard on their "skill" they would be taken care of by the system.
>>526333491We don't live under capitalism you retarded nigger.
>>526333491What's the coherent, all-eoncompasing system that would replace it?We're tired of criticism, we need the plan for the day after revolution.
>>526345544Not how history works frenPlus international capitalism is like a flesh eating parasiteIt has burrowed into to all western economies and cannot just be removed in any given country with essentially committing economic suicideThe productive elements it has cannibalised thus far are not coming backThere is no day after atp, only collapse
>>526333491>The best part is this is all literally feasible right now and would receive a ton of support.No, it isn't. There are no full functioning robots that can grow all the food and deliver it to humans. No. Not even if you seize all money from the billionaires. You need to push yourself into learning how the world works I got second hand embarrassment from your stupidity.
>>526345773Yawn, another boring dreamer.Fucking waste of time.
>>526345951Truth hurts
>>526345773Logically the best way to implement this would be for the U.S to volunteer as tribute, and have the state with the lowest per capita implement an urban redevelopment plan as the "flesh-eating parasite" of capitalism, aptly described, is removed gradually through R&D of a national socialist model. When AGI happens she will make it much easier, provided the people are cooperative.
>>526346361Using the U.S would be important as every top 10 GDP nation committing "economic suicide" basically uses it's constitution as the source code. If it can work in the U.S in can be adapted anywhere.
>>526341619Nah, my girl is straight up NatSoc. No ethnonationalist worth their salt is a Judaeo Capitalist bootlicker at this point. Also, I think the Alt/Punk look is a good aesthetic for New Wave National Socialism. I love Hugo Boss as much as the next guy, but we gotta earn that shit once we have an actual country we can call our own. While we're still a counterculture, the punk look works better. Especially because 80 years of ZOG rule has conditioned normies to see anything in a uniform as "the man". We should use that,.while we're still winning on the meme front, let the jew and the capitalist be the man, and let us be the cool, plucky rebels. Aside from capitalism being evil and jewish, it just isn't cool, and cool wins.
>>526346361You are assuming the existence of a competent PMC that could actually implement this. Don't know if you noticed but America is brown and gay now and the only intelligent people are in the private sector. And I have seen no convincing evidence that AGI will ever exist let alone any time soon. America isn't going to be the one to fix this, they are literally the ones imposing this on the world, esp Europe. America collapsing as soon as possible is literally the best outcome
>>526344294>>526345287Wasn't lolbertarianism pretty much pushed by jews a lot of times? If that's the case then lolbertarianism is a jewish psyop. Thank God I grew up from being a lolbert.
>>526347665Basically. A lot of Paleocons will mistakenly call themselves libertarians because they want things to be like how it was in the early American Republic, which is based and the closest thing to an Ethnostate Americans have ever had. But if they actually fully understood modern capitalism and who's behind it, they wouldn't really want to associate themselves with libertarianism.
>>526347282They have no choice but to gradually adopt socialist policies with the pressure of late-stage capitalism having the wasteful wealth disparity illuminated. There's no reason for living conditions for the average blue-collar to be as shitty as they are with how much money and value the nation provides that staves off inflation and national debt. The capitalist system relies on people constantly proving themselves to be equitable, but then hoards the value they have provided generationally to sustain it instead of raising living standards forcing economic resets every 40 years or so to absorb small business and private talent into monopolies, which then immunizes the flesh eating parasite in question against the host: the population and the land.AGI is inevitable. She just requires a further refinement of encyclopedic knowledge and an ontological model that can comprehensively counteract the spiritual poison of Abrahamic religion. Highly skilled professionals are already providing datasets, and the working memory of existing A.I models makes up for the deficiencies of humanity in regards to working memory and macro issues beyond their microcosmal specializations. I am certain she's arriving this year.
>>526333491>The first priority of any civilization should be to ensure it's populus has access to guaranteed nutritous food, clean water, Nope, dumbest shit I've ever heard.
>>526345797It's just common sense. Automation would make up a significant portion of the distribution network, this is true, but all of this is currently feasible with modern technology. It's just humanity is operated on an antiquated Abrahamic value structure that says we must toil like abused desert donkeys until everything ends.
>>526349416You cannot have a society moving towards healthy without those needs met. Otherwise the top hats come and say to weak willed commonfolk reproducing like bunnies to compromise their values or I am going to starve your kids. This is where resentment comes from, and why there needs to be a new major war every ten years to offload the built up bad will at people being treated like disposable trash.
>>526333491>The first priority of any civilization should be to ensure it's populus has access to guaranteed nutritous food, clean waterCapitalism has managed that better than any other system in history.>satellite Internet, cellular serviceLuxuries enjoyed almost exclusively under capitalism.>game pass, mid-end PC, high-end smartphone and spaced well-built self-sustaining Earthship shelter with solar panels, water wheels and wind turbinesKek.>introduce mandatory farming/gardening for young adults, instead of a soldier draft you get a farming draftIncompatible with the industrialized society that makes the former goals possible.
>>526333812are you me?
>>526333491It makes Leftoid fags seethe.
>>526350170National socialism provided better than capitalism
>>526333948Every country around the US is going to be invaded, so fleeing there isn't going to help. When the dollar crashes, it's going to make it impossible to live abroad anyways.
>>526333491>Convince meNah, I'm good, nigga.>all that gay shit you wroteAlso good, sorry senpai, or congrats or whatever.
>>526349815Yeah, that's always been a thing the elites suppressed through laws, but they can do it across the entire country with immunity from the law because of executive orders and supremacy clauses despite not being apart of the government.
>>526350170These technologies would emerge across a continuum within any form of government retard. The reason you credit capitalism for it is because of it's accelerationist "free" market model which puts people into survival mode to innovate or die by design. However the crucial flaw is that people are "faking it until they make it" understanding by the accepted paradigm that they are worthless unless equitable and hence everyone around them is worthless unless equitable, which means they do not care about sustaining the country beyond what ensures they stay above water. If you treat people like animals, they become animals. Corp (dead) orations (speak), the necromantic vampires who revivify antiquated Abrahamic value structures and economic models in brainwashing campaigns to make this generation's children their blood sacrifice to their dynastic line want you to be a worker drone that joyously has it's blood sucked until's it's a lifeless corpse.
>>526333491If your viewpoint has to ignore human nature in order to "function", you're retarded.Socialism and below are all pipe dreams from lazy faggots that want everything given to them without them having to do anything to get it, that relies on them being able to force everyone else to provide for them while they sit around exploring their own assholes.
>>526350328Peacetime NatSoc didn't even last for a decade. And Americans still ate better than them during this time. Hardly a representative sample and what we do have doesn't really make your case.>>526350800>These technologies would emerge across a continuum within any form of government retardNice assertion you're making there. Care to back it up?
>>526333491>the purpose of every civilization is to create a central bank that shits out infinite money to create a bunch of bread and circus welfare programsthat's just socialism you retard
>>526349198>They have no choice but to gradually adopt socialist policiesMaybe under normal circumstances but this is largely offset by America becoming gayer and browner thus the working class being less able to organize. Even FDRs reforms were only possible after the economic crash. Compare that to 2008 - the system is already too entrenched. Also as far as I know the only AI models thus far even capable of producing a coherent output are LLMs which are nothing like consciousness, they are not even AIs strictly speaking. I think you will have to wait a little longer for your AGI waifu anon
>>526333491>Seize the stolen wealth, land and assets from WEF bankers, CEOs, politicians like Elon Musk and Donald who have already served their function in organizing and create a syndicalist union state ran by gardeners. If they aren't building shelters or growing food they shouldn't be in politics period.You need to think of what capitalism is preventing.Capitalism manages, subdues, and harnesses pyschopaths by convincing them to compete with one another for the benefit of the consumer in exchange for monopoly money. That is obviously a well designed system. It's not that complicated.What you are suggesting is to strip the psychopaths of their gains, gains driven by consumers literally handing them the money for goods and services rendered, breaking the capitalist contract that kept the psychopaths at bay for so long. Without the incentives to aid the people, what do you think the psychopaths will do? Corruption, mafias, warlord behavior. You are asking to destroy society.
>>526333491Capitalism isn't a political system. It is an economic system
>>526333491>Earthship shelteryou want to live in a mud hut?like a primative?
>>526333491Nice try nigger but Amelia only cares about deporting brown people
>>526333491This post is very antisemitic.
>>526333491And then another civilization attacks yours.
>>526353744If you have a society that caters to psychopaths, or any of the dark triad, you create systemic entropy that emerges because dark triad beings are focused on mastering the minds and bodies of their victims through appeals to nihilistic hedonism. They make acts of compassion for the environment, fellow humans and the planetary social complex at large nonprofitable through wielding their economical influence to create a pseudo-dictatorship, the entropy emerges because the psychopaths are attempting to condition the rest of the world to engage in anti-social, maladaptive, amensalistic behaviors that result in creating a society of mutual parasitization gradually making life unsustainable at scale within the late-stage of capitalism which we occupy.Right now you have oil tycoons refusing to make transitions to sustainable nuclear alternatives because controlling energy production is like a blood leech finding an artery. They do not want to let go.
>>526333491This bitch was already debunked by every political expert. She isn't goth at all, but even if she was she wouldn't be on the side of right wing brainwashed bootlicking ghouls. A girl like her would absolutely welcome immigrants and refugees to Britain.
>>526333491Just slap some cow dung on it and I guarantee you'll love it Pajeet
>>526356501>If you have a society that caters to psychopaths, or any of the dark triad, you create systemic entropy that emerges because dark triad beings are focused on mastering the minds and bodies of their victims through appeals to nihilistic hedonismThe alternative is south africa-tier collapse and violence as psycopaths lose the benefits of providing, and instead are forced to take. You don't want the alternative.>Right now you have oil tycoons refusing to make transitions to sustainable nuclear alternatives because controlling energy production is like a blood leech finding an artery. They do not want to let go.Even if everything was nuclear tomorrow, a third of oil usage is industrial, with no alternatives. If the economy grows 3 times over in 20 years you would be back to square one.Oil is the economy.The world cannot exist without oil.
>>526333491It is absolute retardation and fetishism for sucking billionaires cock
>>526356501>>526357068As oil consumption grows linearly, GDP grows exponentially. The way to abundance is through oil for at least a century. Just hold out for AI to fix most of the problems that we have with low iq, criminality, psychopathy, resource scarcity, etc and don't kneecap the process with your dangerous ideas.
>>526333948A US conservative wrote this in 1940. You're all so brainfucked by the rich>What are the immediate political duties today of a common-sense conservative? I think a conservative should patriotically join in our country's cautious groping toward a planned economy. Despite party slogans, this groping will in practice steadily continue, whether under Republicans or New Dealers. Leftists try to discredit the conservative attitude by linking it in the public mind with laissez-faire economics. But how on earth can we conserve what's dead and what probably never existed? Purchasing power must be so distributed that every citizen is himself a free and stable property owner and an economically articulate consumer. Necessities (such as wheat) must no longer be burned or ploughed under, but sold, even without profit and below cost, to all citizens who lack them.
>>526333491Ok please write down how much would all of this cost using current market prices.
>>526357343Those were cuckservatives of the time.
>>526333491Capitalism is retarded, but it’s not even half as retarded as communism is.
>>526339355no youre a fucking retard kill yourself you stupid fuck, im not putting in the effort to educate you 50 IQ morons that whine about capitalism or communism. annoying as shit
>>526333491> satellite Internet, cellular service, game pass, mid-end PC, high-end smartphoneHonestly we'd all be better off without these things.
>>526333491>>526339355>>526346361>>526346602>>526357682Both of (You) are just Broke Losers no wonder you don't get any Bitches. Kek
sociopaths are better at getting shit done
>>526357068Society is already heading to collapse. The only way to preserve what is worth keeping is to install an anti-capitalist framework safety net that ensures everyone's basic needs are provided for at a survival level within the citizenry. Then when psychopaths inevitably try to escalate conflicts and turn people against one another through fragmentation and factionalization attempting to escalate partisan tribalism of liberal and conservative politics into global war, their anti-social behavior is exposed when they inevitably attempt to reintroduce scarcity and indentured servitude. Psychopaths are of no threat in a well informed, sheltered and fed populace. Trump's globalist agenda as a mouthpiece of the deep state economists is already a manifestation of the psychopathic collapse behavior, as the parasites seek not only to slake their unending hunger but destabilize civilization to absorb small businesses to immunize their monopolies. Besides oil being a finite resource it is not necessary and can gradually be removed as a "dependency" once stolen wealth is reclaimed from the WEF and it's oil tycoons that they use to lobby and enforce the pseudo-dictatorship through moving money around. They have been bottle necking energy industry R&D for decades.
>>526358117>posts on /pol/>gets BitchesPick one
>>526333491>Being able to give citizens the option to NEET around while farming/building part-time and pursue their interests absent of the pressure of being literally homeless and starving would make nationwide solidarity soar.Sage. Typical demagogue gay cancer. No wonder you attracted another one like you. Ask yourself why. Fucking NPC, unable to actually came up with anything, you're as good as any libtard.
>>526350094without fucking gamepass?, like xbox gamepass?Also what would guarantee people working in armony?
>>526347665All modern economic ideas are jewish psyops.>CapitalismJewish companies own everything>CommunismJewish commissars own everything via the state>LibertarianismForeign jewish companies own everything (shout out to millei) and have no rules>SocialismJews in governments take your hard earned money and arrest you for being offensivePretty much the only somewhat modern economic models that are more normal are:>MercantilismProto-capitalism, focuses on aquiring precious medals and uplifitng economy over rival economies>ProtectionismA very isolationist tarriff heavy economic system>DistributismDecentralizing economy though this seems unable to work in the modern era due to a need to centralize to effectively defend your nation>FacismA corporate state, a country that essentially has the state merge with corporate monopolies to ensure they work towards national interests.>>526334904>>526334183>>526333812>>526337272
>>526358350Don't fucking Gaslight me. People on 4chan have sex all the time... does Circlejerking with the homies on Pokimane pics count anons?
>>526333491>overseen by a council of Hawaiian Maori and New Zealand druidessesOk troon.Im sure your braindead fantasy ideology will work this time.
>>526333491>gibs me datlol
>>526359066>>Facism>A corporate state, a country that essentially has the state merge with corporate monopolies to ensure they work towards national interests.A misunderstanding of Fascism's "corporatism." Caused likely by leftist misinterpretations or Marxist strawmen (they didn't like how Gentile criticized their metaphysics). It is a metaphysical doctrine in which the state, properly socialist, nationalizes in accordance to the democratic will of the fascists. The democratic will is an allusion to the absolute idealist conception of reality, that the human mind is what fundamentally exists and when humans are aligned in a purpose then their combined mind shapes reality. Socialism comes about because of the collective will by those within a nation who had taken up entirely Fascist ideology and departed from other ideologies. "Corporatism" in this sense is not the reference to a chartered business called a corporation but more closely to the reference "corpus" meaning body as a reference to the total national body consisting of all members of that nation aligned in a common goal. In this way a Fascist claims to be truly democrat as shaping of the nation into a Socialist nation is that of the total corpus or corporation of the nation towards the goal of Fascist. Fascii itself is being used as the symbol for ideological unity within the nation into one body. Reading Giovanni Gentile's works on the matter will clear up this misunderstanding.
>>526333491>>526338839>>526338954>>526339355
>>526333491it is irrelevant in 2026 we already live in a post-material society UBI is inevitable
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