The way that romance is supposed to work is that the man is absolutely sure about what he wants, and the woman gets to decide along the way. This doesn't work for me anymore because I don't trust women to do a number of things. I don't think the average woman wants to sacrifice a part of themselves for a relationship, which means they won't have a successful one. I don't want to waste my time on unsuccessful ones.Anyway, I was thinking about this funny little contradiction: the whole purpose of romance is supposedly love, but it can literally only work if the man is already decided that he wants the woman before he knows her, which means it is about sex for him, and it also means the entire purpose of flirtation in the romance is simply to satiate the woman's ego. It's not about knowing what women want. It's about satisfying their ego on the way to getting what they want. And even if you gave them what they wanted but didn't satisfy their ego, it wouldn't be enough for most of them.Now, plug all of this into the fact that there are many other men like me who no longer trust women, and there's your fertility crisis. It's men walking away. I'd like to know when the average man quits. How long does it take before he realizes the futility?And evolutionarily, do men have something built into them so they can't see the futility? Because if men could, we probably wouldn't be here.
>>526340597I just stay away from women. Not my problem.
>>526340597>it can literally only work if the man is already decided that he wants the woman before he knows her, which means it is about sex for him,Because if he doesn't know her, he only sees her. It's appearance, attraction.> and it also means the entire purpose of flirtation in the romance is simply to satiate the woman's egoBecause if he doesn't know her, then satiating her ego is the only thing he can definitely do that will have a positive result. In other words, simps aren't guys that just give women material things and services. It's that they let women decide things. Or more accurately, they let the unconscious of a woman decide things because even when a woman is given the privilege to decide, she doesn't use her conscious brain to do it.
I think there are some things that humans aren't really meant to understand about themselves because once we understand our irrationality, we stop doing essential things. Like fucking and reproducing. Also, fighting and being loyal. I think as much as irrationality is our weakness, it is also our strength, and the real way of going through life isn't understanding it analytically but understanding it from the very small perspective you have in the moment and doing the best you can with it.If you want to be on that grindset or you want to become a multi millionaire one day, then ya, you'll probably need to become obsessed with analytics at some point. But not many people get the opportunity nor are good enough to do anything with it.I think the world needs more people who can know the analysis part without getting lost in it. It's like dad logic. Dads are responsible for the whole family while also only having limited time to really detach and process things, typically in late evenings or early mornings.I think men can be super emotional and ridiculous at times too, but what keeps them in line are these same men. It seems as though only men listen to male leadership these days though. If a few men learned too much about their nature, then far more women learned too much about their nature.What if the new agey stuff wasn't wrong; it was just damaging to your health to know?
>>526341972Was your great grandfather, just some random pleb who lived his entire life in his little bubble, getting a job, getting a wife, getting some kids, doing his grind and then dying a more content, happy and even more functional human being? Absolutely.Now we know, though, and there's no putting the genie back in the bottle. Realizing what this world is, it becomes the responsibility of anyone who cares even a little to tear it all down. It's certainly not the life I'd have chosen for myself if I could have, but it's the life I got in clown world.
>>526340597>Now, plug all of this into the fact that there are many other men like me who no longer trust women, and there's your fertility crisis.No, it's got nothing to do with your speculations on romance.The reason for the fertility crisis is very bleak and simple.Whenever and wherever women get the choice not to have kids, they don't have them.The feminists were right. The really red pilled truth is that men always enslaved and raped women, because the human race never reproduced any other way. When we gave women rights and stopped enslaving and raping women, the human race started collapsing. We are going to go extinct because we're putting women not being enslaved and not being raped over our survival as a species.
>>526342706Tear it down for what purpose? Is it better to not exist or to not suffer? I choose existence every single day.
>>526343517Life is good, this clown civilization is not.
>>526343456What do you think about laws against rape if rape was the standard? Was it simply meant to use as a tool to control anyone you want, at any time? If everyone's doing it and you selectively apply it... Maybe there's something fundamental this says about law, at least of the social or victimless crime kind.
>>526343674There were never laws against marital rape. Rape was traditionally taking a woman who was someone else's property. The mere fact of having sex meant that a woman was basically enslaved to a man, because she couldn't work and raise a child. The man was responsible for looking after her.As soon as contraception came along, having sex didn't automatically lead to childbirth for women, and they had a alternative to having children. That's all that's going on. Women have no intrinsic reason to want to have children, and they simply choose not to, which is our doom.
>>526340597>And evolutionarily, do men have something built into them so they can't see the futility?Both men and women have hormones. There's your answer.
>>526340597I didn't walk away from women until I actually love one and she cheated on me for a 1 point upgrade after 5 years together. I had sensed that things were changing in the relationship, or at least that there was a risk. And I asked her face-to-face just to tell me and break up with me before cheating on me if it even ended up coming to that. But she didn't do that, she cheated on me and dumped me only after she had the next relationship totally lined up, called me to break up over the phone and told me "I'm with him now." I will never trust a woman again unless some kind of miracle happens and I'm not holding my breath.
>>526340597Women want men who dont think like 12 year olds