Deflation or runaway inflation?
>>526341223Deflation is worse, even though it sounds like a good thing.
>>526341223Deflation is better and necessary at this point.
>>526341524What about savers? Is it okay if they get fucked?
>>526341223Deflation is the answer to destroying the (banks)
>>526341223Controlled runaway inflation.
>>526341223Deflation would fuck most people, since most of them have mountains of debt.
>>526341223deflation paired with actual real mass deportations (not trumps 1 mill. deports, i'm talking 10mill+ deports per year for at least 1 decade)
Deflation is great. The underlying cause for deflation sucks ass.
>>526341849That's the whole point of inflation, to avoid people saving up.
>>526342290Okay but what about the prudent people that saved? Are we going to antagonize responsible people?
>>526342426But then what’s the point of doing anything if you’re just going to be a slave to debt?
>>526341223Market crash is the only solution. Then I can buy stocks for cheap and the casino can resume again.
>>526341223Inflation is better for the long nose tribe, so there you have it.
>>526342689But this time you have to receive a mark on your forehead or in your arm and you forfeit your soul for eternity
>>526342474It would be great for me, but it would fuck the majority of the retards. I feel like the government would step in to "help" those in too much debt. They would offer some sort of relief, like letting people stay in their homes but they would lose ownership. "You will own nothing and be happy."
Sound money is the best. Money with value. Can be crypto backed by assets with transparency and auditing. But the actual value has to be back in the hands of the people and not the banksters.
>>526342782I think we may have already crossed that bridge. Vaxies are hell bound.
>>526342555You invest the paper money into something productive.
>>526342899sound money is a complete meme. you guys are so far off the mark it's not funny. you just ignore crash after crash after crash under a gold standard. you ignore when the gold holders in new york literally got rid of the silver standard because too many regular people were finding silver out in nevada.the problem is distribution, not a free floating fiat currency. and congress apportions all spending. they have you guys chasing ghosts.
>>526341524>making things more affordable and giving you more purchasing power is a bad thing Shalom
>>526341223why not redistribute housing forcefully and with taking wifes and girlfriends of landlords as a tax as well by putting them in public brothels to pay up what landlords owe to society.
>>526342765Brought Nazi Germany, can't have Hitler without inflation and existential threat
>>526342474Yes, that's basically the point of inflationary monetary policy, it's to fuck over people like you and me and to reward short-sighted retards.
>>526341223> better to drown or die of dehydrationStupid and irrelevant question. We are drowning in inflation, so deflation is a good thing (for now).> 3 captchas to post this
>>526342950We havent come to the worship the image of the beast or die yet
how about neither? sound money (NOT fiat) had solved this
>>526341524Deflation is worse for banks and lenders but great for everyone else
>>526341223Runaway inflation. At the very least most would instantaneously pay off their houses, cars and other debt assets. The inflation would fuck the banks and pretty much any major entity, which has its obvious knock-on effects but there is some underlying silver lining in the above. Deflation fucks everyone and especially the low debt holder that make up the average individual while raping all investment on a macro scale. It's basically runaway inflation as a short term "boon" on the micro scale and then a long term loss with a short and long term loss on the macro scale vs delation as a general loss on both scales. I do wonder what runaway deflation would be like though.
>>526341223Deflation isn't the opposite of inflation in economic terms.Deflation means money literally disappears. You want to wake up and find your bank account empty? That's deflation.
>>526343728Thomas Jefferson also supported free land grants. I'll wait patiently for you right wing schizos to get on board with that.
>>526341524This guy knows. It's hard explaining this to anyone who hasn't read economics. They think it's opposites. One is bad, so other must be good!
>>526341524> deflation is worseYeah ive heard that my whole life but no one could ever articulate why. Can you?
>>526343128America was doing fine under bimetallism until the great robbery of 1863, where the banks got the USA on a gold standard, which they began to manipulate, causing the events you exaggerate. Could be oil, silver, copper, even a combo. Gold is just banker jammies, comfort for their vaults. It does nothing.
>>526341223direct trade good economy with dismantling of all Rothchild banksyes, I am THAT based. 88
>>526343793> deflation means money literally evaporates!!!!!Lol, it means the value of a dollar buys more.
>>526341223Runaway CONSTIPATION Anon. Holding an entire nation on the precipice of chaos, to the point where eventually, the entire nation BURSTS! Hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah!https://youtu.be/IzWsLaolyLw
>>526341223If you own a home and own stocks, you want inflation. If you own nothing and have to grind, you want deflation.
>>526343804sure, they'd just be out in the rural midwest, alaska, or soon enough greenland with no public utilities. sounds good to me
>>526341223Ah Wyndham, my first kiss in highschool.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnwKeiJflBw
>>526341223She has my first kiss. But who will be the lucky girl to be my first union?
>>526341223deflation is better you can't run debt economy on deflation it kills ZOG
basic inflation > basic deflation >>> hyper deflation (bitcoin) >>> hyper inflation.
>>526341223> I put all my savings in silverObviously runaway inflation.
>>526341223She has such pretty eyes.
>>526341223Inflation is a symptom of fake currency.
>>526343841The great depression is an example of a deflationary economy, prices dropped by over 25%. It also had a 25% unemployment rate, simply put having zero income sucks way more than things being more expensive. That said if you can keep your job and you don't get a hefty pay cut it can actually be beneficial. Think about the boomers who didn't lose their job in 2008 and just kept squirlling away into their 401ks, it was the opportunity of a lifetime.
>>526341524shalom rabbi>>526343833>you retarded peasants just wouldnt get it, just trust the science, goyim!>>526343841it's one of those things like religion or freudian psychology where if you read the original texts it just sounds even more retarded than it did beforei suppose you could go and read john maynard keynes but you would be wasting your time, it's government propaganda to excuse what they had already started doing during the 2nd world war, they started printing more money than they had the gold to cover for in order to beat the nazis and then after the 2nd world war they just decided to keep doing it, keynes wrote a book where he argued that printing money is actually good for the economy somehow, and these braindead dogs have believed it ever since because thats the opinion that their economy professor has, their economy professor whos probably a fucking epstein island enjoyer
>>526344021So basically only the wealthy benefit?
>>526343845there is very little reason to ever seriously consider a gold standard or any kind of metal or commodity standard. when you look at actual historical examples like china, japan, korea, germany, etc. there is no gold involved at all. even the US, while still nominally on a gold standard, the explosive growth is all from industrialization and the ability to create usable objects and products out of raw materials. not some arbitrary amount of gold you have.that is also not to say that those metals are worthless -- they are not. they have very, very clear and valuable industrial/scientific uses. so they would still be expensive. but there is no good reason you actually want to limit your money supply to a fixed amount of some commodity. you want more people meaningfully engaging in economic activity.
>>526344373bingo bong
>>526341223A period of inflation followed by a period of deflation. This is how it used to work before fiat. The downside was that economic crashes did occur more as the market constantly corrected itself. It was also highly influenced by the supply and price of goods and labour, rather than raw money supply. Also because the "price" of money could not be directly controlled, investment would come and go and affect economic growth, also potentially leading to economic recessions.
>>52634122360x 1 meter tall Hitlers or 1x 60m tall Hitler
>>526343787There’s no such thing as runaway deflation because at that point people will start buying if it’s cheap enough and feels right. Nothing will be worth zero, runaway inflation kills the value of money for savers and promotes irresponsiblity.
>>526341223Deflation is not a possibility anymore. Any coordinated attempt at deflation would be viewed as the fed refusing to print to buy their debt which would cause a run on the debt resulting in inflation. Nothing stops this train.
>>526344591Even though the impact of inflation is biased towards benefiting property owners, it's ironically caused by making funds more available to people that had trouble getting money without help. Typically in the form of home loans and small business loans.
>>526344456What about today where prices have increased over 100% since the rona scam and real unemployment is probably 20%? What’s that called?
>>526343183When prior are in debt with housing yes deflation is an overall negative impact. Because everything will recede. Purple will be layed off and the bank will foreclose.
>>526341223They're both opposite sides of the same coin.When the rich own and operate the printing press, they can use their control to manipulate the market, first to inflate everything to the point where everyone else is impoverished, then deflate it to crash prices and buy up everything at fire-sale prices.This is how they intend to implement neo-serfdom, and we were warned 250 years ago.
>>526344797Runaway deflation is a depression.
>>526344022Yeah homestead act was put to use. But in modern times I don't see many prior building their own well. Clear cutting 20 acres. Plowing the land and staying in a shack for like 5 to 10 years.
>>526341223> Jews say inflation goodDeflation is better. Simple as.If a Jew, politician (Jew) , or a banker (Jew) says it's good for the goyim, it is in fact bad.
Kek
>things becoming more expensive is good somehow>things becoming cheaper is bad somehow>you just dont get it goyim>shut up you dont have a masters degree from bergstein university of finance
>>526345092Runaway deflation is not a possibility anymore. Everyone would sell their bonds if they didn’t believe the fed was going to backstop them by printing money, resulting in hyperinflation.
>>526345092Runaway deflation (good) is a kilo of grass fed ground beef being worth $3. Speaking of which, I bought some for $10, usually the go for $20. They expire 2 weeks from now.
>>526341223Neither would be a problem in a command economy
>>526341223Deflation is better for the poor people, runaway inflation is better for the wealthy people.
>>526341223Deflation, of course. Pressure valve. Interest rates should drop at this point. It would help invert trends in fundamental areas like housing and food prices.
>>526341223Deflation is better to anyone who's not a boomer or a chosen (same thing essentially)
>>526345263Ugh, why would they sell their bonds if they are going to get their money back when they keep it to maturity? Plus they get interest. You’re incorrect. They’d dump stocks instead. Bonds are great for deflation.
>>526341524>Deflation is worseFor the demons that run the world maybe, but deflation is good for the ordinary person and the formation of nuclear families.
>>526341223Deflation is better for cash holders, working class and worse for investor class and usury.
>>526343833I can't tell if this is satire of a reddit-type comment or you're actually retarded and need to go back
>>526341223After runaway inflation you want deflation to balance it out not even more inflation. This whole mindset of you never want deflation but always having inflation increasing is good and healthy for the economy is complete bullshit. Of course inflation is marketed as a good thing and a must have because bankers and lenders love it but they hate deflation. Look at who is in charge of the finances holding enormous amounts of power in the US, Canada, and Europe......bankers and lenders so of course they are going to say non-stop inflation is a good thing (for them) because they are thinking only about themselves not you. They don't give a shit about you and to end it off people should look at it this way, it is harder to put people into debt slavery with deflation there you go that's why they hate it so much.>tldrYou need deflation after an inflationary period to balance things out not just non-stop inflation with no deflationary period at all. With deflation it is harder to put people into debt slavery so that is why they love inflation but hate delfation.
>>526343804Yeah, how else do you hold an enormous country of unutilized land?
>>526342950You have to WILLINGLY deny God. The mark can't be given to people unknowingly. It HAS to be conscious choice of turning your back on God and instead worship the image of the beast.
>>526345382This is the real answer. Inflation inflates the price of all assets and is easily hedged with equities.
>>526341223deflation can run away pretty quickly because people will stop spending money which is really bad for any economy - the velocity of money is very important. with runaway deflation, you start having big problems like unemployment, closing factories and nobody buying anything even faster.remember, for your job to exist, someone has to buy something. when that slows down, it just gets worse and worse.
>>526341223Well as humans we agreed those shiny rocks are worth stuff.Now as a tribe we got better at making stuff so there's a lot more stuff, and still the same number of shiny rocks.So each shiny rock can be traded for more and more stuff.Eventually people start reasoning why buy 1 horse with my shiny rock when I can buy two horse tomorrow.The same people eventually reason why buy 1 apple, when I can buy 2 apple tomorrow and starve to death.Ultimately in a heavily deflationary system, people are incentived to live within their means and only buy what they need because it's obvious to delay gratification.This is an anathema to the Jew.This is why we MUST have a 2% inflation target even though in the long run that means an apple is going to cost $1 billion.
>>526345436Without the fed printer as the back stop there simply wouldn’t be enough demand to meet the excess supply of bonds. They have to refinance like $9 trillion in debt this year. This is only going to get bigger and bigger as time goes on.
>>526345658This. Inflation is arbitrary. The logical and reasonable assumption is that as acquisition and gathering of a resource becomes easier and more efficient, then supply naturally outpaces demand, thus naturally lowering the price for a product. This is supposed to then be balanced out by the glut of extra resources allowing faster progression to the next tier of technological and societal advancement.Our current planetary inflations are due to arbitrary demand of banks, and whatever other stupid groups, to halt the progress of our species and maintain status quo indefinitely.There is no law or rule that states goods and services must increase in price. Like I said, we assume services that are "figured out" become old and thus lose their value (like oil gathering, shit's figured out).Our species is being prevented from profiting en masse from the glut of resources that actually exist.So I'm more than fine with deflation. Line does not need to always go up on every metric. That's actually a bad thing. Especially when you realize that a glut of supply allows companies to operate at drastically reduced costs, which they then refuse to pass on to anyone else.Shrinkflation is a bitch and a half. Anyone practicing it deserves worse than death.
>>526344989I don’t have a house and I can’t even afford groceries without food stamps. I don’t give a rats ass about your property values. You can die in a fire for all I care
>>526345883Is that true though? They were selling 1lb grass fed ground beef for like $8.5, they discounted it to $5.5 and I bought 4lbs worth.
>>526341223Runaway inflation is better because it teaches society that deflation was actually better
>>526344989So a bunch of Chabad property hoarders will be forced to sell? Oy vey that's like annudah shoah. Won't somebody PLEEEEASE think of the landlords?
>>526345092Ending covid era inflation is a good thing schlomo.
>>526341524Deflation is bad if its runaway deflation or a huge spiral.A bit of deflation isnt bad, it incentivices internal consumption and attracts tourism which bolsters local businesses and increases jobs, increased trade and more jobs mean more money from taxes without raising them, which can offset higher cost of national debt interest rate. It also makes people happier since they get to experience increased purchasing power.Biggest problem with deflation is its considered antisemitic so you risk being branded a threat to world peace and getting the Gadaffi treatment.
>>526344644> ignores a quadrillion on derivatives balanced all on gold and silver.You keep thinking that bud, while they keep resetting the fiat system every year making everyone but the billionaires poorer and poorer. Everyone can see the end outcome of serfdom when then government has banks print their fiat.
>>526341524deflation causes higher birthrates and inflation lowers birthrates
>>526341524Deflation means ncreasing purchasing power which will make prices lower
>>526341524Deflation plus a one-time blanket repudiation of all debt is the answer.
>>526342426but like 90% of the population at this point isn't saving anything, or investing anything. They're living paycheck to paycheck and spending 100% of the money they earn. And as fucked as the average worker is right now, they would continue spending every dollar they earn for a long time into deflation.Deflation gives power back to the workers. It gives them more spending power with their paychecks. Inflation is only good for rich investors and billionaires.We need a deflationary period to correct the economy at this point. Billionaires can get fucked.
>>526343841deflation means consumption goes to shit which means the whole economy goes to shit
>>526341223>Which is bettersomething that isn't jewish
>>526341524>Deflation is worsehow deep in debt are you, inflation-loving nigger?
the money in my pocket being worth more, obviouslywhat a shit thread
>>526341524For you.
>>526347956bitcoin is jewish as fuck, it was literally the jews solution to the bank run problem which is the sole flaw of central banking
>>526341223Joe Six-Pack would probably benefit from managed deflation, but it carries the risk of spiraling like it ddid in Japan, and is currently doing so in China. Runaway inflation crushes you if you're at the bottom of the economic totem pole unless you have something to hedge like stocks, currency, precious metals, crypto, real property, etc.; basically both are terrible, but which one being "better" depends on where you sit financially.
