the usa is essentially bowing out of being a global super power and embracing the transition to regional powerthis is exactly the same thing that the soviet union went through and of course the british empire before thatits going to be rough, americans are going to lose a lot of comfort and some will get killed, but theyll get through itin the mean time the power vacuum will be filled by other powers. I think that it will mostly equal between China and the EU. you are already seeing this happening: the mercosur agreement has pulled south america into the european sphere. while canada is shifting into the chinese campwhat are you expecting for the future now that the american empire is falling apart? will the chinese and the europeans come to similar confrontations or will they work together better than when the US still led the free world?
Stupid outsourced fail propaganda nato shillyou gonna die, and you deserve dead
The EU has isolated itself from all the great powers. Russia, China, USA. There's literally nowhere to turn for protection. The EU must be disbanded and the bureaucrats must be tried.
>>526345022interesting takewell its obvious that nato is dead. maybe itll continue for another 6 months or so. its irrelevant anyway - there is no commitment from its main signature to uphold nato articles. the american administration is very adamant about bowing out of any such commitments as I already said, they want to be a regional power now they can no longer afford being a global power
You think anybody is going to read an obvious shill post outside your signal boosting fail ad team?GTFO you nigger
>>526345323the eu is a trade super power, and could easily be a military super power with a budget larger than either the USA or China. Russia is obviously not a great power since the fall of the soviet union. its more like a north korea or an iran. they are a regional power at best>>526345420what am I shilling for anon?
>>526344901>work together better than when us led the free world>100 million deaths in ww1 and ww2>less than 10 million deaths globally since ww2 while the population has grown 250 percent
>>526346074you're entirely correct, but there is still such a thing as less deaths, less confrontation. improvement is always possible
>>526346274if the war in Ukraine is any reflection, i would say it's gonna get worse, i personally hope nato gets it shit together and the us is apart of that
I wouldnt know, I didnt read it.Spotted the image, spitted your flag spotted the structurehide the thread (currently 198 threads hidden) and went on to tell you to kysyou idiots still don't get, that you are filtered by structure, your texts don't make it to the cortex
>>526346498the US does not want to be a part of nato. they want to protect their immediate surroundings and assert dominance in the region>ukraine warI believe this is the catalyst for the end of nato. with the russians retiring from ever being a problem for the usa again, they have lost interest in maintaining a relationship with europe
>>526347149i think trumps unironicly made nato stronger by getting members to contribute more to defense
>>526344901Anon, you know the requirements for being a global superpower is population, total landmass, and natural resources- something the US has all three of without the rest of the world. Are you retarded?>>526345605>be a military super powerNot going to happen. Doing that means you lose the vast majority of your social programs, which is the only thing keeping your people from becoming raving madmen who wish for nothing but burning their governments to the ground. >>526347263This is the hopeful way of looking at it, but in practice it won't happen. Europe, in its current state, exists purely because of its wealth of social programs, which in turn only exist because of US military subsidy. If Europe starts footing its own military bill again, those social programs go away.
>>526347263it was the member states commitments to contributing more to defense that is making nato stronger. its true that trump was the one that pushed for that initially, but who is to say that his administration believed it would be accepted? I think theyre looking for a way out>>526347589>social programswe had social programs in the 80s when our defense spending was far higher than now. reminder that my country used to maintain 1000 leopard 2 tanks and 200 f-16s at the peak of the cold war. poland already spends more of its gdp on the military than the usa. the american healthcare social program is taking up 18% of the gdp while in europe its usually around 10%. one does not exclude the other at all - it is a silly argument but yes obviously there will be some choices to make
>>526344901>I think that it will mostly equal between China and the EUkek delusional. Europe doesn't even have it's own basic domestic digital infrastructure. I bet if you walked into MI6 and DGSE offices you would find email services provided by Google and Microsoft.
>>526348005the nato chief, who is dutch btw gives ALL the credit to trump, he could be blowing smoke but i believe him, either way its a good thing for us nafo shills.
>>526348323Test
>>526345219>The EU has isolated itself from all the great powersExplain?>RussiaLol. Russia isn't even a regional power anymore. It's a weak, collapsing, dying state.
>>526344901It’s been 20 years of mutt propaganda and I still don’t know why I should hate China
>>526348568THANK YOU GOD IM FUCKING FREE >YES 99.9% of Euro flags are poojeets on VPNs that are paid for by the jews. We are what they call AMALEK which must be destroyed at all costsIt’s Divide and Conquer 101. They pay JIDF shills (now outsourced to MIGHTY BHARAT) to pretend to be White and shill here. >NOTHING, AND I MEAN NOTHING, WILL STOP WHATS COMING. WHITE MEN ARE ORGANIZING AND WE ARE FUCKING COMING FOR YOU
>>526348323Hes trying to keep trump on board for as long as he can, thats his entire task. A futile attempt if you ask me. And its not really a strange trajectory: Nato lost its reason for existence when not only did russia turn out to be a paper tiger, they opted to grind out their entire soviet stock and then some onto the ukrainian defensive lines to the point of riding chinese golf carts and mopeds into battle. Even if somehow trump is kept on board, vance will definitely end nato
>>526348791Welcome back anon why did you get banned?
>>526345219If you weren’t a poor village nobody you’d know that half the money going around the EU is directly handled by guys with thick accents named Dmitry
DIE JEW. 1488>all non Whites deserve DEATH. You’re a gay ass Mike nigger faggot and I will kill you
>>526345605Lol military superpower... you guys struggle to as an entire continent have 2 working aircraft carriers to compete with the stuff us is decoming.USS Nimitz is being demoed this year and is decades ahead of anything you tards can manufacture and it was built in 1975 lolol.
>>526345219I don't buy this narrative. Europe has competent military components and if the EU project/current events have convinced Europeans of one thing, it's that Europeans and outsiders are fundamentally opposed. The Russia/Ukraine and USA/Denmark fiascos can potentially be used for European military cooperation, you could actually convince people to participate now. If there was ever a time for Europe as a continent to step up and form deep bonds to act as a singular militant force, the time for building such a project would be right now. Europeans online seem to disagree on the nature of Euro-nationalism and Pan-European militarism. But both sides now agree that the US must go and that Europe is on its own. Now is the time.
Were gonna lose hegemony and China and Russia will sweep through. Mission acomplished.
>>526346498Ukraine tells me the us is the sole ultra power in the world. We have given a 2nd world country 3 decade old equipment and they are holding their own in a war of attrition at this point. And we aren't talking about a war where we get to utilize our air and sea superiority let alone our logistical superiority.
>>526349253Consider that there won't be any hegemon.
>>526349390Eh, to an extent. Technologically and economically, China will absolutely step in where the US is declining. Where the US had the 20th century for advancements that happened here, Chinese science and math will define much of the 21st century.
>>526349495That's Chinese propaganda talking. China won't do anything other than attempt to annex East Asia, and only with the idea of securing strategic resources so they don't undergo mass death.
>>526349221>Europe has competent military componentsThey have zero moral and will of the people. Any war will be extremely unpopular among Europeans. And worst of all, they have no stockpile of weapons. Meaning they have to win the war in the first few days/weeks at best. Because they will run out of ammo fast.Even the US we dont have a magazine depth that much large to sustain a large war, as we saw with the 12 day war with Iran. But were still have way more ammo compared to Europe.
>>526349919Half of their population are brownoids who fled a war in their own country. And they think they will fight and die for not just Germany or France but the EU? LOL Europeans are retarded and gay.
I'm a dual citizen that left the US when I turned 18 back in 2007. I'm getting increasingly radicalized against the US. Before I just thought they were retarded and was glad I didn't live there anymore. Now I want them to fail so hard they become third worlders. Is this a problem
>>526344901This gay fear porn isn't going to scare poltards into supporting globalism faggot
Who is in charge of the rope and who is hanging. Good fucking luck
>>526349919The military is reindustrializing though. Really quickly if you look back at 2022. Europe produced 2 million artillery shells last year, 4x more than the US. That's up from 300k in 2022. Also the first new tanks with brand new hulls are being produced for the first time since the early 2000s. Modern tanks are complex and require parts from many different suppliers. Europe has a strong shipbuilding industry already and european fighter jets orderbooks are filled up for the coming 17 years whereas before 2022 there were thought of closing the production lines. GCAP is seemingly coming along. It could replace the F-35 as the world global fighter program.
>>526344901we'll be fine>mostly equal between China and the EUlmao
>>526348617It was those U.S. tariffs EU countries levied on themselves that pushed you away. Sad state of affairs.
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>>526350240>I want them to fail so hard they become third worldersif the US becomes third world what do you think Leafland will be?
>>526351564Based on our current trajectory a socialist state with Chinese characteristicsWhich is preferable
>Chinese characteristics
>>526344901There isn't a place for Europe in a post-American world. Europe, or rather EU and NATO's European allies, will fall before US.
>>526344901no, we're still exceptionally powerful. We're just not YOUR power anymore.
>>526351564Chinese which it already kinda is
Europe lost us when they let in the third world and their governments turned against the native Europeans. They have become increasingly draconian in their anti-White legislation and actions. Until their governments change course and start PROTECTING AND SUPPORTING, rather than suppressing and abusing their native European populations, we will take steps to secure the White Europeans a future within AMERICA >1488
>>526344901I think we'll see a three way cold war between China, the US, and Europe but I don't think the US will stop being a world power.
>>526344901We are separating from you because you have voted to make your countries islamified and you champion "degrowth" which really just means suicide.
>>526354016whats that mean for japan?
>>526354831We've spixicized our country...
>>526355037spics don't believe in jihad and al zutt
>>526355037Not for much longer… pick up a news paper
>>526355149They're still brown, low IQ, and low quality human capital. "As long as they're xtian" is cope. They need to leave.
>>526355360Based but it needs to be happening so much faster.
>>526355374We are deporting illegals. Europe is giving them free money. There is a big difference
>>526355466We still give ours a lot of free money desu. Just gotta deport faster.
>>526355412This is just the beginning >Project 2025 has already accomplished FOURTY EIGHT percent of its goals and we’re just over half way through year onehttps://www.project2025.observer/en
>>526345022wow splendid non austrian english you go there, brownoid.
>>526347589>something the US has all threeThe Soviet Union also had all 3 and what is left of it can't even take over a former state. You are going clearly on the same path. Your retarded republican wing is instigating a second civil war and making endless amounts of enemies that are more than happy to help to fan the flames of internal conflict with their armies of bots.Now that the Orange retard and his Nazi circus has decided to make an enemy of Europe, they will join the BRICS in ditching the dollar as the global reserve currency and you will not be able to pay for your massive army or your social security anymore and your economy will collapse. Once that happens, your civil war is almost inevitable and everybody that you have insulted and bullied will pile-in to arm the factions so you'll destroy yourselves.
>>526344901there is no point in conflict.
>>526355841Wow! Good thing we're becoming sovreign in rare earths and semiconductors whilst deporting the browns bankrupting us.
>>526344901>>526345022>>526345219>>526345323>>526345420The solution is this:>European Federation now>Kick the US out of NATO so that NATO can focus on Europe's defence (and we can continue to work with Canada if they want)>European nuclear programme, beginning with British/French nukes>Cut as many ties as possible with the so-called "United" States of Shartmerica
>>526344901God you eurofags are delusional, the usa is about to reach the technological singularity, after that mass reindustrialization through robotics.You fags are truly retarded.
Europeans are so funny man. A week ago they were in awe of the USA’s might when it black bagged Maduro. Then Trump says he wants some of their distant territory and suddenly they’re saying the USA is in total free fall. Unironically this whole debacle has convinced me that Europeans are the biggest NPCs on the planet. If this is how Europeans that use /pol/ are imagine what the average European is like. Just embarrassing.
Have the Silk Road railroads that were supposed to be built ever come to fruition? I was excited for them. But it seems like none of the trains can get through since you would have to go through Russia. The only alternative route would be through Iran...
>>526355885the webms alone would make up for it
I don't think a liberal EU would last against an authoritarian Russia for more than maybe a couple decades. You fags are too self destructive.You guys seem to think the IMF and propped up dollar are the only reason the US is a successful nation. We actually still have a pretty good manufacturing capability. Moreso than Europe. The comparison becomes even more lopsided if you compare NA to EU. I don't think we should pretend Canada and Mexico are real sovereign countries.
>>526344901Britain more or less handled complete imperial disintegration gracefully, no punitive wars, no skitzo foreign policy, no total degradation of the citizens.I feel the USA will look more like 90’s Russia, where the Jewish elite just steal everything possible from everyone and leave.
>>526358336They are a fickle and contentious lot.
>>526358621The return of predation between nation states would actually improve things even eurofags, international law is why the world is so dystopian right now it allowed leaders to do bad decisions thinking it was the end of history and pass the bag to other generations via the bond market.In a world without international law eurofags would not have started to destroy their nuclear energy production, iran would not had the balls to attack international shipping lines because there would have been an instant answer, russia would not have supported venezuela as a retarded thrall government with multimillion diasporas over latam due to how retarded it is all they cared was mafia control of caracas to enforce influence over the country, you can't do that if you risk war as it is in belarus, canada would not have destroyed it's social structure if at risk of war with the usa (not a lot of conscripts on a place you can't own your own house) people can simply leave, fuck even mexico narcos and state would have kept the whole thing pg12 if there was risk of us intervention.The whole concept of international law fucked the world, even ww2 was due to international law enforcing ww1 reparations on germany, maybe eurofags do better on a world they are alone than under us protection idk.
>>526344901>the mercosur agreement has pulled south america into the european sphereThat agreement was bsAnd you are all US vassals, the european sphere doesn't exist
>>526344901Just let the mutts have Greenland. Is it worth you dying, breakup of NAFO, or even economic hardship because of an icy shithole even the Danish didn't give a fuck about until a few weeks ago? no. Suddenly Denmark cares, and sends 3 dog sleds, but didn't give a single fuck a few weeks ago. And lol at countries sending 2 people to help them, do you think the Danes would help you, if it were one of your territories? They wouldn't. They would claim neutrality. Greenland is NOT worth defending. Sell it, make trillions, and move on.
>>526359011They will do better as long as there is an outside enemy they all agree resisting against. History tells us they will turn on each other the moment there is an advantage to be gained.
>>526344901China and Europe are fucked. We control all the surplus oil stocks on the planet. Your future GDP growth is predicated on our good will. So suck it, Eurofags.
>>526357976Imagine how beneficial it would be to innovation and business without American competition in our markets. No more retarded deals just to satisfy Burgerdom and whatever we don't want to produce we can get from China for cheap.
>>526344901Whatever you think, don't think that the post-american world will be a european and chinese one. It's either the US or China. EU will forever be vassalized to whoever is in charge economically.I side with the US. I am moving out of the EU within the next 10 years if it turns out that we're taking in China as our new lord.
>>526359011Checked. You were here last night. You’re actually really well spoken and have good arguments. Good on you argue bro, even if you don’t like America, I like you
>>526345219Bro, they've been transfering influence over to China for the past 10 years. The whole "anti-Big Tech" thing they pushed, whether it's them or the Democrats, is not actually on behalf of the people. It's because they're under China's influence to sabotage everything american.Money talks, and China has been winning. That's why you gotta support Trump. He's doing heinous shit, but it's the only choie America was left with, and that's why republicans backed him. He's their Kamikaze-guy. A liability you can easily get rid of either due to his senile state or his dark past, once he's pushed the global stage around enough to prop up the american dollar again.China are the bad guys. They're a collectivist state-loving drone-people. You can't let them take over our countries, or you will become enemies of history.
>>526357976>Federalize EUFuck off, bots.Everyone who's actually human in this thread. Beware of that narrative. I've noticed it's being propagandized on Reddit too.
>>526358621The truth is that the low-state workaholic nature of the US is why it's still an overall strong people. EU is used to welfare systems their entire lives that tell them that you don't have to lift a finger for yourself, so the only ones doing it are in the minority. That's led to a complete lack of prowess.
>>526360000where are you moving?
>>526360209>Money talks, and China has been winning....And then Maduro was snatched in the night. The same way we'll snatch Greenland without firing a shot. We'll just write a polite e-mail to not interfere as we assert jurisdiction over this island.We are that powerful. China only dreams.
>mfw the "dane" is an obvious muttkike
>>526360000Checked. You will always be welcome in the America Reich, bro >pic rel, Madison Sq Garden. Why do you think Trump chose it for his big anti-immigration address
>>526344901>it will mostly equal between China and the EU.slide thread
>>526344901USA is not even a regional power. They can't Liberate Greenland for example.
Absolutely delusional Eurotards
>>526361142The main thing to remember is that it’s not Europeans, it’s their unelected bureaucrat “leaders” that go out of their way to destroy Europe and make the lives of Europeans worse. Their only goal is to flood Europe with subhuman shitskins and implement the Kalergi plan on behalf of the jew/ satan. Europeans will hopefully stand up soon and remove their oppressors, God willing. >im hoping Trumps hardline stance will help facilitate this
