Mercedes E classes built from 1975-1995 are objectively seen as extremely durable, reliable and high quality. Considering that things get cheaper why don’t we just retool and build the old stuff with some added features like catalytic converter, heating/ac, rear camera, etc…we don’t need touch screens doe
>>526345657Over engineering their cars, benz lost too much money. Now they’re designed to break down for the $$$.
>>526345657The rules about what a car has to have in its design is a moving target, but if you find the right kind of base model and can find a supply of parts for them, I'm sure you could. Fuck, you could probably use the old car titles and skip a lot of modern rules. Just don't be surprised if you can't get 1000 of the same make and model to wrap an efficient assembly line around.
>>526345657>Why can’t we just remake old durable cars?Regulations on motor vehicles andEconomies of scaleThe processes VW used to make hatchbacks in 1990 do not exist anymore
>>526345657Because if things don't break down, you don't have to buy a new one, which doesn't drive sales, which doesn't increase profit, which doesn't make the rich richer and the poor poorer
>>526345657Because they were fucking death traps
>>526345657Higher production cost, less need for repairs that allow companies to get extra income from selling parts, that are also taxable.More gas efficient which means gas companies make less money because you put less gas with those cars which is also taxable.Less pollution which is needed for microplastic transmission.More resistant to impact which means insurance companies are less needed which are also taxable.
>>526345657It's not profitable enough for (((THEM))) to force you to own a car. You need to pay for gas and car parts and other shit to make the car economy more lucrative, it's why new cars are garbage on purpose. Making a durable, tough car is NOT in the best interest of the people that control you and society. That's why.
>>526345657Awfully antisemitic question
>>526345657I’ve thought about this and I don’t see why Toyota couldn’t reproduce cars made in the early 2010’s. They’re at the peak of reliability and would be very cheap to produce. A ton of people just want a reliable fuel efficient car that they can afford. Doesn’t have to be fancy.
>>526346435Not sure how it's possible for so few people to understand this.
>>526345657I've been saying this for years. You wouldn't even need any of the modern shit. Make a brand new car with a simple flathead or OHV, stick shift, lights, and a radio and millions would buy it. The American car industry is going to collapse soon, especially since they're only selling shitty overpriced crossovers. Ceding the sedan industry to Japan and China is a terrible mistake they will never recover from.
>>526345657lol. go ahead and drive a 1990 mercedes e class. theyre awful compared to todays new cars. handling, braking, safety (airbags, blindspot monitoring, lane assist, rollover integrity), gas mileage, acceleration. like seriously ever aspect of performance is worse. if you're good with old cars you could maybe repair an old e class yourself, but thats literally the only benefit. the exhaust is also literally a hundred times more toxic coming out of cars from the 90s because they didnt have computers monitoring and adjusting the engine processes. and you're the one breathing most of that, although its also scummy to everyone else you drive by. but yeah, go buy one and tell us how great it is after driving it for a while. im sure you'll elicit some compliments from fruity boomers.
We use valuable limited supply materials to build things as shit as possible only for a number to go up in microsoft excel. Reality truly is stranger than fiction.
Because lines always needs to go up. Make a car that lasts 20 years, line doesn't go up as fast therefore make a car that only lasts a couple years to dumbass I mean consumer needs to buy another so line goes up very fast.
>>526345657regulations. they can't make cars with angles anymore because they're not fuel efficient enough. and also tech memes.
>>526346064Then, bring them back. Make them exist again
>>526345657jews
>>526345657EPA standards made it illegal to have good cars that last a long time and can be easily repaired by the owners. You have to drive a giant plastic crumple zone with 50 different computers and radars and cameras which can be totaled by an accident that 30 years ago would have been a fender bender and 50 years ago wouldn't have even resulted in exchanging information.
>>526345657cause they dont make "DINGDINGDINGDING" when you go 1 above the speed limit obviously
>>526345657It's happening, but you need late 1990s cars. They have perfect mix between sufficient safety & built quality.
>>526345657The market wants new and new things. Few people want to buy a car that will last forever.
>>526345657i've wanted a Mercedes W123 5 cyl turbodiesel for the longest timebonus points if it has a manual transmission conversion
>>526347295Late 1990’s mercs are total crap though
>>526347295am keeping my 2001 E39 M5 forever or at least until I can't get parts for itwhich is already starting to happen
>>526347508If millions of people like you existed and had the same car, demand of parts would go up and making them would be profitable. But there's not enough people for that
>>526345657>Why can’t we justyou already know the fucking answerjewish/white greednobody cares about anyone but themselves anymore
>>526347672Get a Beetle or Ford Model A
>>526345657Regulations and safety
>>526346545>A ton of people just want a reliable fuel efficient car that they can afford.That is antisemitic.
Unibodies get touted as lighter.Somehow cars are heavier than ever.It's almost like the frame served a vital purpose.
>>526346199Cars still are fucking death traps. They've not substantially changed.
>>526345657We have a shit ton of laws in the USA to prevent that. You used to be able to order individual parts from a manufacturer and simply build the entire car yourself.
>>526345657To actually make this car today, in the same way, with materials of the same quality, would cost probably at least 3x what a "similar" E-Class today costs (although the modern cars are full of gadgets, those gadgets cost pennies to make in general).Those 1970s engine will do 500K miles.
>>526348506Modern cars are scary safe now.retards crash all the time and don’t die like the old days.
>>526347482I was adding the E38 as example, but it didn't upload. Audi also had a couple of decent ones in that era, not to speak of Lexus.
Because jews and goy mammon worshippers hate all of us. That's why.
>>526345657thats anti semitic
>>526345657Because fuck you, thats why.
>>526348684They crashed all the time and survived back then. Go run your prius at 70mph into a giant concrete block.#1 safety feature is the collapsing steering column. #2 is the seatbelt.
>>526347508There's a ton of ppl who just hate those new smartphones on wheels.Thinking about starting a side business focussing on exactly 1 youngtimer model with stellar reputation like Audi A6 C5. Then buy one really good one to drive plus all the crappy ones on the market, take them apart and sell the spareparts. Own car is then essentially for free, plus you become expert on the car.I bet there'd be a big enough market to come out with a plus, but without putting too much work into it.
>>526345657>Why can’t wewe canthey dont allow it
>>526349192You have no idea
>>526345657Durable, easily serviced vehicles are very possible to make but are not simply due to the rent Jew. They need you to rent your ownership of the vehicle with regular maintenance and repair service. Same reason why homes are built of sticks and nails instead of built into the ground, so you have to pay substantially more to maintain it.
>>526346545>Early 2010sJapanese manufacturers still make all the super reliable old cars for 3rd world countries.They just don't make them for 1st world countries.
>>526345657I think its partially that people just expect more features?I also think that the repair works for reoccuring revenue. This allows people to effectively hide the total purchasing price (since some of it is payed in repairs). This allows companies ot set lower prices and compete.Main reason is probably regulation. Those old cars would be completely illegal if made today. The emission and efficiency stuff only works with a very conplicated engine. Then there is driver aids, sensors, cameras, connectivity. All of which are legally required in the EU.Some of the complexity is fine (modern engine stuff). But a lot of it just fucking sucks.
>>526349382Cars require $10k of unwanted garbage and have to take $10k in damage upon a 5-15 mph collision to be relatively safe?
>>526345657jews.it would be easy to make a car that could last like 500k miles and require very little maintenance. but there's only a small amount of profit if that is to be done.
>>526345657The car is very durable. It's got a strong, rigid steel frame. Guess what happens to the occupants during a crash. They're strawberry jam.Modern cars are designed around safety. They crumple, so the passengers don't. That's why deaths from road accidents have plunged. So no, don't buy an old death trap, OP.
>>526347009Its also about pedestrian safety. But SUVs are just allowed to be more dangerous than normal cars afaik, instead of giving normal cars some leeway then...
>>526346838I had a W124 as my daily driver in 2012-2015 and it drove just fine.
>>526349628Pretty much, they are designed to shatter in a certain way that get the energy dissipated. You can make all kinds of assumptions about how horrible they are but they are objectively stupid safe compared to older ones.
for me, it's the 2004 1.9 TDI Volkswagen Passat B 5.5 Wagon. What a car, what an engine!
>>526345657things are not really getting better or cheaper. knowledge gets lost, machine break with no substitute, standards get lower. Clothing, cars, buildings, etc will never be as good as they used to, we literally can't
>>526350036very based
>>526350067We absolutely can. Unless you mean items from before 1880, it's all documented. What happened was that important people stopped competing to make the best product and started competing to goyslopify their product to the maximum degree to please investors
>>526345657>Why can’t we just remake old durable carsbut goy, who would then buy new crappy ones I produce?
>>5263499131) That sounds like 50% excuse to me. Older cars had easily replaceable panels separate from the body, behind the bumpers, that would crumple upon low speed impacts. It's not uncommon for the bumpers, skirting, and fenders needing to be replaced from a 5-15 mph crash now.2) I don't care if a car I buy is optimally safe and the government and manufacturers should eat shit for trying to force it on people.
>>526345657We can, but.....>More maintence more more>only dealerships can work on car moar money>limit 3rd party parts and buy only from company (noar nobey)>Find the accepable number of years for car to be operational, then design to break and sell maintence or new car>Lobby for North America infastructure to be car base> Lobby Agaisnt right to repairCumsoomers are cucks
>>526350757In addition, I could argue that the auto-shutdown at stops, ultrabright LED headlamps, "steering correction." and distracting alerts and alarms make newer vehicles less safe than they would otherwise be.You also have dumb shit like wiper and climate control not readily accessible in some of the vehicles with touchscreen control panels.
>>526345657Modern emissions standards require lighter weight, meaning less steel and cast iron (durable) components and more aluminum and plastic/carbon fiber (weaker and more brittle). Also, the same emissions standards make engine computerization more complex, and thereby more prone to bugs and errors, leading to ghastly expensive repairs. Despite all of this regulatory "progress" the WEF is still going to force you to eat bugs, live in a pod, and lease a Tesla to combat the fake global warming boogeyman, and if you keep driving your old gas guzzler you'll be labeled an antisemitic thought criminal
>>526349563yep, they make more profit selling shit that looks nice but breaks fast. however, if you are old enough, you will remember how shit things were back in the 70's and 80's. stuff just broke and had to be maintained at a higher level than most people were capable of doing to keep them working.
>>526349753You're a goodgoy retard and don't know what you're talking about. The primary technology saving lives is airbags. At a certain speed, old car bodies crumple fine. We have competitions in the states called demolition derbies where we wreck these old things with 50 crashes per car and call it a fun, safe event
>>526345657They pollute too much.
is the Prius Plus a good car? I want to make lots of white babies and I need a 6 or 7 seater. I just want a reliable car that is cheap to drive.
>>526345657I don't like inhaling exhaust fumes.
>>526345657You'd have to make sure it meets crash requirements or get rid of those requirements.
>>526351454>>526351626Yet you smoke weed 24/7 any time you aren't sucking cock
>>526346199No. They are shit. They are soulless.Also, they are much safer than the old ones.Here in eeu we have really old cars in use. Every time there is a decent crash, the ppl in those cars get fucked up badly , while the ppl from the new cars get out with scratches.Hell, abaut a year ago we pulled out two gypsy dudes from a bmw that hit a truck who crashed into a truck at 180km/h without breaking. (The meter got stuck when the crash happened) They stopped from that speed in 0 meters, think about that.And they didn't even use the seatbelts.They were in critical condition, but imagine the engineering that went into that car.
>>526352022>we pulled out two gypsy dudesYou state this as a success, but I see a failure
>>526351979I swear 1pbtid auto industry shills/bots swarm any threads berating new vehicles.Any rational environmentalist would be against the planned-obsolescence disposable behemoths that vehicles (at least in the US) have become.
>>526354053>auto industry shilldo some critical thinking about what I'm advocating for by making fun of gay modern cars, you basedchugging faggot
>>526347508Excelent car, a buddy an I roadtripped a manual e39 540 msport from LA to chicago and it was a great ride.
>>526346838I drove a 92 chevy g20 for years, faget
Anyone ever get drunk as fuck and watch the how to sell a Mercedes instructional videos from the 80s?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejA0wKTRHH4
>>526345657Because back then white people tried to make the best things possible and now it's to make the most of cheap shit as expensive as possible. Greed killing our civilization.
>>526345657that would be stealing from USSR game plandirty gommiesreeeeeee
>>526345657And how exactly does that force a consumer to spend 20-90k every 5-10 years? It's like aluminum, stainless steel, composites, plastics, fiberglass all exist, but then cars wouldn't rust away and then people would have to buy cars as often. It's all just lies. Like how they say cars look boring and similar now because aerodynamics and gas mileage, but then how do you explain a Jeep Wrangler?
>>526354237Context dumbfuckI was obviously commenting on the shills you were replying to.
