The U.S. and its allies in the region have capabilities far beyond that of China, even things that haven't been revealed publicly. Fortunately there is still time for China to save face and get with the program and join the rest of the world in trade, peace, and prosperity. Who knows, they might even get to host a World Cup in the coming years if they play their cards right.
here's you secret black project wunderwaffe sir
>>526346226I'm so PROUD to support Taiwan!
>>526346226>Only a small fraction (single-digit percent) of Taiwanese identify solely as Chinese, and even when including people with dual identity, it’s typically well under half of the population. Most Taiwanese see themselves as Taiwanese only.
>>526346226>join the rest of the world in trade, peace, and prosperityChina does more of this than your shithole country you fucking nigger
>>526346226You don't have to worry about a thing. China is so weak and afraid of us, they will never lift a finger.
>>526349617Nah, dollar is the world's reserve currency because America is solid and a brand you can trust. China is flimsy crap that breaks after two hours.
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>>526346226If taiwan didn't want to be chinese soil then maybe they can go back in time and stop foxconn from setting up factories extracting labor-value from guangzhou all for the big fat neoliberal burgers. Iphone above sovereignty i guess.
>>526346226Look at the topography of Taiwan.Look at where the population centers are.Now think tusnami bomb in the Strait of Taiwan.*Wooooooooosh*All gone.
>>526346226as long israel is not in dangeryou wont do shit
>>526350693>solid>trust>about to attack a 70+ year allyKek, the dollar is being devalued at every turn, most national banks are in the process of reducing their US dollar stockpile for a good reason.
>>526351427But you’d fuck Fujian and parts of Guangdong too, idk if China is wiling to make that sacrifice
>>526346226It's a shame about Taiwan, but the US betrayed it, just like everyone else. Its fate is already sealed.
>>526351697In your dreams. America is where you can buy anything, the world's most diverse and largest market. If you are wheelin' and dealin', you want to have some dollars on hand. The dollar is our strongest export because the world trusts America as the world's banker because we invented all modern accounting standards and financial statements. America is where the world goes for business.
>>526351907> fuck Fujian and parts of Guangdong tooSo what? That's maybe 3% of China and they can warn them and prepare everything beforehand. They could even warn the Taiwanese and provide everyone with escape routs, because you can do shit about tsunami bombs. You can only run away.China's real estate sector is so insanely productive, it would take them maybe 6 weeks to rebuilt everything again.
>>526352765wouldn't they need the Taiwan infrastructure and factories? I thought this whole thing was about china not being able to make good chips themselves
>>526346226>Republic of China will never be Chinese soilTaiwan (Republic of China) is 96% Han Chinese.
>>526353813Meanwhile Greater Taiwan (mainland china) is 0% Han Chinese and 100% rapebaby chink mutt lol
>>526353810> wouldn't they need the Taiwan infrastructure and factories? The compound is at 400ft/120m which is high enough to not be affected. A tsunami would go at max half as high.But I imagine they would mainly need TSMC's technical staff, who would likely leave in case of a takeover, tsunami bomb or not.Even if the factory itself was essential, it would throw them back 3-5 years which is managable. It's not that anyone would immediately start a war where they would need the lastest chip tech.
>>526346226>TAIWAN HAS NO SOIL IT HAS CLAY>AMERICAN CLAY
>>526346226Taiwan is china or at least that's what the Taiwanese position is
>>526352689>America is where you can buy anythingYou aren't making shit retard
>>526354528that's a good point
I'm all into empire building but the chinks can have this one
>>526352689YES PLEASE SAAR I WANT TO BUY DOODGE RAM DODGE RAM DECAL FOR AUTOMILE SAAR IT WILL LOOK GOOD ON MY CHEVY FRONT TUKTUK SAAR. AMERICAN IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS SAAR
>>526346226Who cares?What has Taiwan or any Asian country ever done for the USA? Nothing. Asians attacked us, lied to us, manipulate their economies and currencies in economic warfare against us. Sold US technology to our enemies. If the USA was smart, then we would treat Asian countries like they treated us, so we will be in a cold war with all of them. We damned sure would not attempt to defend them or enrich them more.
>>526354528they dont need a tsunami bomb. All they need is a naval blockade. All those american zogbots that had their limbs blown off and were betrayed by their government who gloat their fantasies in these threads, about chinese fleets being decimated by american alien tech and billions of chinese dying in the process, but them having suffered communism which means all of their stuff is made of rice paper, so every chinese hit will turn into a vaporised light emanation that will travel to the menorah on thee white house lawn and will say: ''THANKERU ZOGOONALDO YOURE FREEU OUREU COUNTERYUUU'' are not really representative of the US foreign policy standpoint i think, and generally dont hold too much water. You guys are far too busy with such gemerald politicians as ilhan omar or whatever other nigger is hiding in your woodpile.
>>526346226Taiwan is actually sort of irrelevant to China.Even putting nuclear missiles there doesn't really change anything since the US already has nuclear missile submarines.If Taiwan wants to be America's bitch and tak in faggot culture and niggers, let'em.
>>526355326> All they need is a naval blockade.No idea about naval stuff, but I doubt they could establish one that is impenetratable on the far side of Taiwan. Then I wonder how effective a blockade would be if possible to implement. Okinawa at the far end of an island chain going right up to Taiwan. The entire island could be supplied by air, while maybe evacuating those who aren't needed on the island if supplies start to run low.In case of a hard blockade with shooting, the closest Japanese island is only 100km away. This is artillery range if you think of both sides can shoot 50km with essentially unlimited ammunition and opportunities to hide. Chinese vessels on the other hand would be on the silver plate.The only thing China could do is seize all the small islands around Taiwan. I tend to think this is also what they really want in Bejing. Especially Lan Yü South East of Taiwan is a piece of prime real estate, because of size & location. If China got that one, they'd have their private access to the Pacific.So the posturing with military maneuvers could be a ruse to snatch Lan Yü and of course all the Taiwan controlled islands near the Mainland, plus this Taiwanese reef in the South China Sea. In fact, since they would need the Pengshu Islands as jumping board for an invasion, but never include them in their maneuvers, I tend to think they don't really want Taiwan, but only all those smaller islands under control of Taiwan.Should this ever change and the Pengshu islands become part of the manveuvers, then I will see this as a signal that they do intend a physical invasion of Taiwan.
I don't care who's right, I just want to keep watching uncencored manga, sth CCP won't aloow after invading.
>>526356289contrary to most of the people here i think china could probably if an open conflict breaks out strike japan including okinawa with arguably equal loss and chances of success. I just dont think that the us will pull on it, and if it would japan would likely protest, obviously. theyre not a nucelar power either so it probably wouldnt escalate if they keep the skirmishing to okinawa or bases, i guess... but i also dont know, and i dont think this scenario is necessary. japan would have to intervene on it's own behalf for something like this to happen and i dont know how much they are willing to have their navy in turn potentially sunk to push american interests to save face for the latter case domestically (if it works similar to US proxies in europe, for example peace deal reluctance from european leaders in ukraine being obvious political diversions and us proxy support at the same time.)the harbors in the north east are nowhere big enough i would guess to accompany the entire island and it's population of what, close to 30 million people? With close to zero agriculture on the island. and it can be interfered with precision strikes so i think the blockade would hold. So at a certain point in time, the whole mobilisation effort would either ramp up or crumble, and given how on the fence about their loyalties the former kmt and i imagine also the triads or spiritual societies are, now that mainland china is more centering on traditional values, as well as the general distrust and waryness about globalism in countries with actual tradition, the tide could relatively easily shift, much like as if there was some sort of white supremacist umbrella country to guard interests of pro european independence would certainly turn into a rejection of occupational governments if there were a similar situation. "THANKERU ZOGONONALDUERU FOERU SAVEURU OUERU COUNTEURYERU"
>>526356289But i agree, just that taiwan itself is the perfect offspring point for a chinese pacific fleet. It's east coast and mountains is almost entirely undeveloped, because its on the far side of china, The main problem about these ideas tho, are earthquakes. Together with some sort of shipyard or base operations on the further side including island chains it would be very vasluable real estate still, both mountains, islands and coast. >>526357959But i will admit that i didnt study past maneuvers and exercises so my opinion might not be as informed, but i don't really think tat all the euros that also send their submarines and destroyers to the china sea do it for anything else but posturing and deterrence and don't really want to fight that war. So i think it might be likely that china and taiwan might just reunite without a war, but i also dont know. I don't know how that would garner support from the US populace for example, except for all those poor GI's that lost their limbs in the iraq war who post in these threads all the time. "ZOGONALDO YOU SAVEU THE CHINESEU PEOPEORUU FROM COMMUNEUUURIIST TYREANERUUURUEE"
>>526346226>U.S. and its alliesKek. Should we tell him, bros?
>>526354528also the tsunami bomb idea fundamenttally goes against chinese interests. they are debating about who of the two chinas is more chinese philosophically so to say. It is i think essentially their main divide among the elites. The brainwashed dregs of society that fall for gayslopaganda are pretty muych as representative of who has something influental to say as idk, a bag of rice falling over. I dont think the communist party has much interest in massacring lots of taiwanese, or the taiwanese has lots of interest in massacring lots of chinese (via for example that fiction scenario of them blowing up that dam). It's more likely part of the western war effort to spread this conception among the taiwanese people tho, as well as westerners. And also remind yourself that the taiwanese as a people who will change governance and then become practically chinese, the same people that are your declared enemies, from the perspective of the US, are also the perfect scapegoat for any kind of atrocity you can imagine. .
>>526346226yes it will. and you won't do shit. you've shown the world you can take what you want. China will, and you will bark all day long but you will never bite.>trump will put tariffs on chinakek
>>526359451>I dont think the communist party has much interest in massacring lots of taiwanese, or the taiwanese has lots of interest in massacring lots of chinese (via for example that fiction scenario of them blowing up that dam). It's more likely part of the western war effort to spread this conception among the taiwanese people tho, as well as westerners. And also remind yourself that the taiwanese as a people who will change governance and then become practically chineseGood points but you need to know something. They are Chinese from Fujian province. Mandarin is their national language and thing they call Taiwanese language aka Taiyu is a Hokkien dialect. Western media make it seem like it's some conquest of a different race to the ignorant but they're literally Chinese. It's a remnant of the Chinese civil war. They, the Taiwanese certainly do not want to kill their relatives or destroy their ancestral land.
>>526351427They want the manufacturing this isn't v2 bombs randomly blowing up some shit. They need that country intact so they can control 90 percent of all the computer chips and shit.
>>526351427i thought this was a quesadilla from the thumbnail
>>526346226>98% chinks>not chink soillol even singapore might as well be chink soil with 75% chinks
Next president after Xi better be not a pacifistic cuck like Xi.Just kill all those traitorous scum on that island, including the paid foreign assets.Build anew
>>526360816Taiwan should launch an express entry immigration program for Japanese and White migrants to de-Chinify itself and thus strengthen its claims to independence
>>526361535lmao i won't change the fact that they are chinks. More pajeets in uk won't change that bongs are bongs and pajeets are pajeets.
>>526356289lol dude the US already lost the 1st IC, and all the ports are on the Chinese side. A blockade will be pretty easy for China now, considering how merchants reacted to the Houthis what did they do...... they started sailing around the Horn of Africa. Japan and SK will get fucked from the blockade but I think China will let ships still go to SK. Japan is looking for war so they'll end up joining this war and paying a big price for it.
