Washington is gearing up to ban 3D printers that are not connected to government software that prevents them from 3D printing firearm parts. This should concern every single person in America who has a 3D Printer. >But it just effects WashingtonIf they get in passed in Washington it will get passed in every other blue state. Also Cuck Perfection changed their design to the V series to appeal to California alone. These new printers will role out with nanny state tech to not lose access to certain markets. Like a major tech hub like Washington.>I don't like 3d printed gunsIt's 3d printed guns today. Tomorrow it's copyrighted materials. Redditors won't be able to make they're 3d printed baby yodas. The day after that Ford and John Deere will stop you from printing stuff to fix your own vehicles. Did you print a prosthetic for your disability? Sorry not up to code banned. >I have a pre-pozzed printerYou can purchase something completely legally only for a federal judge to change a ruling and turn it into a felony if you don't comply. See Tommybuilts T36 receivers.https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=2321&Year=2025&Initiative=falseIf you live in Washington please redpill other people on this.
>>526433287lmao i use that exact bust of napoleon as one of my test prints
what if I use a 2.5D printer to make a 3D printer?
>>526433287lol just print a printer
>>526433287Good. I hope this passes. And yes, I hope it expands to cover copyrighted materials too. I'm in the tabletop miniatures hobby and 3D printing is killing businesses in the hobby. And not just the big corporations like GW either. Tons of local hobby shops that primarily focused on miniature wargames are being put out of business by 3D printing because people are just printing copyrighted minis themselves instead of buying them.Not to mention, the materials used for 3D printing, especially resin printing, are very harmful to the environment if the waste isn't disposed of properly, which most owners of 3D printers don't do. So yeah, anything that helps kill 3D printing is a plus in my book. And before anyone tries to claim that I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually did 3D printing for a few years. I stopped once I realized just how harmful it was, both ecologically and economically.
I think collecting cans and casting a receiver would be easier and safer in the long run
>>526433784Fuck you, faggot, and fuck your overpriced toys. I hope you get raped to death by a pack of niggers
>>526433784>I'm in the tabletop miniatures hobby and 3D printing is killing businesses in the hobbyGood. Fuck your overpriced garbage.
>>526433784lets have your sales pitch then. convince me why i would be better served purchasing from you than printing my own. also include direct factual dollar figures to convince me of the value im leaving on the table by not purchasing from you
>>526433784Lol fuck that. Most People are too intimidated and will print a starter set, get really into it then go full in.If I had some faggots chasing out newbies because they didn't spend enough it reminds me of camping and the boomers trying to talk about rv prices and retirement when I'm just trying to live
>>526433287Next step id locked smart guns + gun buyback/new ammo standard
>>526433784megacorps need to fail and also copyright should be outright abolished.
>>526433287bye bye bambuhello voron
>>526433912Seethe more, faggot. The fact that you respond with a tantrum instead of a rational counterargument shows you have no justification for owning a 3D printer beyond "because I want one" and "muh freedom!!!!" In reality though, you're just a social leech who wants to steal the intellectual property of others and have things without having to pay for them.
>>526434149I have no need to provide a counterargument to some fucking manchild lamenting that his favorite toy shop is in the shitter because the market has decided that your overpriced shit isn't worth the dosh. If you think personal freedom alone is enough of an argument, again, get raped to death by a pack of feral niggers, FAGGOT
>>526433287reminder that 99% of people who buy 3d printers, polymer 80, and whatever other "ghost gun" shit have more paper trail than just legally buying a gun from the store via 4473. every one I know irl are delusional af. remember that all the gubmint has to do is subpoena an online retailer and boom it's ogre, they know who you are. it's literally easier for them to do that than to go into a physical gun store and go through thousands upon thousands of papers. they did it before many times and will again. stop being delusional and buy a gun the normal way. kek. what are the odds they come to your door first?
>>526434256Personal freedom alone isn't* enough of an argument
>>526433287What's a good non pozzed 3D printer? And what do you guys make with your 3D printers? I'm thinking of getting one, but I don't really need plastic toys. What are some actually useful things you guys have made?
>>526434149>no justification for owning a 3D printer beyond "because I want one"That is already plenty sufficient reason for ownership.
>>526433784I'm sure you hear this all the time, but you're gay.
>>526433784kys faggot
>>526434149so where's your sales pitch? >>526434006come on guy. promote your business
>>526433287I saw a guy pulled into court for putting a root cellar on his ranch. This was like rural Tennessee too. They found it because they had surveillance flights flying over to look for unauthoriz3d builds. Americans are way less free than they think they are. America as a free peoples is close to dead.
>>526434256I was using that as one example. There are a ton of industries being negatively impacted by people trying to make their own stuff instead of buying them from a proper manufacturer. The bigger issue though is the environmental impact. People that own 3D printers, especially resin ones, just dump the waste either in the trash or pour the waste water/alcohol down the fucking drain and think it's perfectly fine. That alone should justify banning private ownership of 3D printers. Either that, or require a license to own one in which you and your home will be subject to random EPA environmental compliance inspections just like any other manufacturing facility would be.
>>526433854>casting a receiverthe first DIY plastic pistol frame from that company was a form and you would mix the two chemicals and pour the chemical into the mold and after curing presto out came the lower. So, why not sell molds for people to pour aluminum in to speed up the process.
>>526433287THIS IS FINE BECAUSE THE LEFT WONT LIKE IT
>>526434149I design and print little parts and bits to fix shit around my house all the time, plus tack welding fixtures for stuff at my job, I most definitely do have a good reason to own a 3d printer, and I make good money from it too.Part two: the Fourth Amendment exists, so you cucks won't do shit.
>>526434507China is freer than US, AUS, NZ, Canada, UK...
>>526433287>Washington is gearing up to ban 3D printers that are notPlease link to evidence. It's not entirely out of character for them, but things tend to move slow... they weren't projected to go after this stuff for another 10 years and 3 false flags. So what gives?
>>526433287Dont care, not complying. Never use defcad which is owned by a thieving self admitted convicted pedophile known as cody wilson. Fuck new Jersey, nigger.
>>526434557kek this has got to be ragebait or a genuine retard. come on clown, post your sales pitch
>>526434739>Please link to evidence.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaidGUS2hoAwas it that hard for you to look up?
>>526434628That isn't a good reason though. By doing that, you are taking money out of the pockets of those who would normally sell you those parts, this damaging the economy as a whole. Now you may think "but I'm just one person, so the damage is negligible". Think about though: When you get millions of people thinking the way you do, the negligible damage starts adding up to major economic damage. For the economy to function, money has to constantly be changing hands.
>>526434346Print a Voron with your friends printer, then use the Voron to print tool holders. You will need to know parametric CAD to get the true value out of a 3d printer.>>526434557Resin printer are primarily for literal faggots to print figurines, you should still leave my country if you have a problem with freedom.
>>526434876>damaging the economy as a whole.no actual retard it allows people save money and reallocate the money to better uses/services and they do not have to support retarde manchildren.
>>526434876>By doing that, you are taking money out of the pockets of those who would normally sell you those partsFuck you, those parts don't even exist half the time, and even if they do it's fair competition for me to design and produce my own.
>>526434876If your business can't survive technological progress then it should fail. You're arguing for technological stagnation because you can't compete with people who have 3D printers. How about you just go out of business instead? Why should any of us care if you're making less money? I'd rather save a shekel than give one to you any day.
>>526434916FDM printers are just as damaging, but for different reasons. FDM printers are creating tons and tons of extra plastic waste every year as people print whatever they print and then throw it in the garbage when it either breaks or they get bored of it.
>>526433784Boo fucking hooHave you thought about making something unique or useful to sell?
>>526435077So change the garbage laws, stupid nigger.
>>526433784>NOOOOOOO BAN THE MOTOR-CARRIAGE IT'S RUINING MY HORSESHOE AND SADDLE STORE Lol, get fucked.
>>526434739I linked the bill in the op
>>526435057I'm not arguing for technological stagnation. I'm not saying 3D printers should be eliminated, I'm just saying they shouldn't be allowed to be owned by private citizens. 3D printers should be in the hands of proper manufacturers, which is who the technology was originally developed for. 3D printers are supposed to be for prototyping and light manufacturing work.
>>526433784He's right. I'm sick of seeing those retarded rainbow dragons at my renfests. 3d printing is the AI of the physical world - good and useful for the 5% who actually know how to use it, 95% abused by piggies who just waste time churning out slop.
>>526433287So how are they going force that software?
>>5264352763D printers have allowed a lot of individuals to start up their own businesses using designs they've invented... I personally know a guy who's made quite a bit doing that. You want more regulations which is going to make it costly and prohibitive for normal people to start a business and get rich. Basically you want protectionism for you and already established businesses and you don't want to have to deal with new competition coming in. That's all.
>>526435077People built homemade machines that recycle bad prints by grinding them up and turning them back into filament>>526435620Force 3d printing companies to comply if they want to sell them on the US market
>>526435276Let me guess; you are also in favor of tighter gun control and one world government?
>>526435276Every reason you gave here and in past posts are why 3d printers should never be limited. You want to keep the barriers of entry artificially high just so people elsewhere can make a buck off exclusivity. I'd rather have manufacturing become so available anyone can produce what they need.
>>526435620They'll implement it in the slicers. The slicers will all scan any STL you try to print and refuse to slice anything that is deemed illegal.
>>526435276>I'm just saying they shouldn't be allowed to be owned by private citizensPrivate citizens should not be allowed to own computers or access the interent because too many retards will spew out their retardation proudly.
>>526434281With digitized records it's easy to go through 4473s and NCIS background check numbers. Also, 80% and 3d2a is a great way to circumvent "prohibited persons" bullshit. Remember, the average american commits 3 felonies a day, so anyone could become a prohibited person at the government's whim, doubly so for people in red flag states.
>>526435863And then the whole world will look like India because the whole world will become so polluted with everyone's manufactured garbage.
>>526435918Well the world is already heading that way too, so I guess we both will get our wish.
>>526433784>I like female custodes Hahahahahhah
>>526433784Copyright is going to kill AI if it is enforced, so it’s not going to be. Your shop matters very little to the backbone of this country
>>526433784>I have been artificially controlling the marketThat's a monopoly. Lmao.
>>526435688>>526435904Not an expert, but sounds like something you could remove. Not to mention there are printers without said software, and its pretty hard to force an update.
>>526433287Glad I already own a Prusa Mk4s and am able to print as many funs as I see fit.
>>526435673Hey, people want to start a business that uses 3D printing, fine. But they shouldn't be allowed to purchase the 3D printer until they have established the corporate entity that will be using the printer for commerce.
>>526433287Why not track the kit manufacturers and make those the serialized component?
>>526436213> "Equipped with blocking features" means a three-dimensional printer has integrated a software controls process that deploys a firearms blueprint detection algorithm, such that those features identify and reject print requests for firearms or illegal firearm parts with a high degree of reliability and cannot be overridden or otherwise defeated by a user with significant technical skill.
>>526436359Guns shouldn't even have serial numbers, all that shit just makes it easier for the government to infringe.
>>526434570Plenty of yt vids on this. My favorite was the “golden gun” cast from spent brass. It’s trivial. You just need a receiver or a form, some greensand, some wax if you used a real receiver to create a mould, some method to melt the metal, and of course some bits of wood to hold the greensand.
>>526435988Except we already have 3d printers and it had zero impact on trash in the streets. Absolutely retarded argument. India is full of trash because it's full of Indians who are trash. Advancements in tech do not cause more litter in white countries
murry been in office since 92 lol rlly playing both sides to win that longgood luck, with commie cuck ferguson lusting for income tax and seeing france as a business model (sueing google news, sueing purdue), and these forever female incumbents, were gonna have to repeal the law later when the hardware is better
>>526434149You just typed copyrighted material that is registered and belongs to me. You have paid no royalties and I have given you no permission to think or express my intellectual property.Cease and desist.Furthmore erase my copyrighted ideas from your brain with a 12-guage immediately.
I hate this state, its canada lite especially with all the gimmigrants littering everywhere and horrid laws
>>5264366133D printers haven't been widely adopted though. The overwhelming majority of people still don't own one. If they ever do, you absolutely will see a massive build up of garbage and plastic waste. Not to mention the water will be polluted to the point of not being drinkable as resin retards pour their waste down the drain and into the water supply because current water treatment facilities aren't equipped to separate that kind of pollutant from the water.
member when the ukraine war turned off all the cars and tractors in russia, remotely.
>>526433784Get a load of this faggot
>>526436444and I thought my laws in texas were fucking stupidthis is retarded as fuck and literally impossible, do these people have a grip on any sort of reality?
>>526433784This, freedumb fags need to be punished
>>526436761Retards dumping things isn't a problem unique to or increased by 3d printing. You're ignoring the most important part which is that cultural and average intelligence dictates the cleanliness of a nation, not the tech. I don't know what jew dominated manufacturing field youre running cover for, but you have no ground to stand on here
>>526436277Go back to facebook asshurt boomer
>>526436865It's not impossible though. They just have to design it in a way that such measures are integral to the function of the printer. Similar to how all the computerized shit in modern cars are so integrated into the function of the car, that it would become undrivable if you removed them.
>>526433784I'd have said 2/10, too reddit, but apparently that's enough for pol these days.>>526434346Brackets for all kind of stuff, but now with my bigger machine it's mostly router, saw and drill guides for woodworking. As always it's about what you make out of it. If you're just sitting your time in a tiny apartment there's hardly any use for it.>>526436518I do think you're better off getting a small desktop mill. More precise and be reused/resold after without much hassle.
>>526433287if you waited this long to ghost your gun, you're NGMI
>this goy thinks the 3d printer wont have cfwwait for the tech to go mainstream like the iphone, this junk is still motorolla cel phone era
>>526437061commie faggot detected
>>526436444>and cannot be overridden or otherwise defeated by a user with significant technical skill.SEVERELY underestimating the technical skill of many people who are already into 3D printing.
>>526437427His 12 bait posts didn't tip you off?>>526437092Do you know of any desktop mills besides the Pocket NC? I like my printer but I would like to get into metal CNC machining. Sintered metal parts seem like a half-baked (pun intended) compromise.
>>526437061Until someone cracks the ECU and you tune it. I'm not claiming to be super knowledgeable, but it seems like there would be a market and it would be trivial to have an opensource OS and slicer that you could just download. 3d printers are far less complex than a car or ag equiment and those OS get cracked within days of being released.>>526437092>I do think you're better off getting a small desktop mill. More precise and be reused/resold after without much hassleGetting a desktop mill to the point that it can hold tolerances is going to be upwards of $1k, mill included. They also throw chips meaning you need a garage/basement/workshop. Every serious maker should have a mill and lathe, but it's undeniable that 3d printers massively lower the barrier to entry.
>>526433784>bolshevik wants to kill the free market and steal from everyone
>>526434281This post was written by a mentally handicapped person
>>526437725The thing with buying a mill is that afterwards you have to spend just as much if not more on the tooling for it, plus pay out the ass for all the metal stock you are going to be cutting. The advantage of printers is that it's an order of magnitude cheaper to make a given part and still get a half as good final result (give or take).
>>526433287NO BLUE CAESAR GET OUTYOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS DEMONIC MACHINE DOES
>>526438372Yes, hence my statement >it's undeniable that 3d printers massively lower the barrier to entry.
>>526437725Sure, there will always be people that get around it. The point isn't to stop everyone, the point is stop enough people that the problem you're starting to stop becomes manageable. And adding all the extra steps to get it to the point where the government can't spy on you will be off-putting for most people to the point they either won't bother with 3D printing or will just put up with government surveillance.
>>526438640>problem you're starting to stop*problem you're trying to stop.
>>526433287I live in Washington and im fine with it. I own a few 3D printers and ive considered making ghost guns to sell to the hobos here. I obviously haven't done it as I have morals, but we've seen plenty of people who have done it and its cost thousands upon thousands of lives nation wide. If I have to register my next printer to save lives I'll gladly do it. Voting yes on it.
>>526433784i hope it kills that stupid fucking hobby
>>526437642Besides the Carvera meme machine, not really.. I'd rather get a used G0704/similar used and convert it myself for tinkers sake. Maybe you find someone of that sort sitting in your neighbourhood already.That said sintered metal parts are completely fine these days, at least the industrial parts we saw at work were. I'd rather question getting ratted out when it comes to lowers.>>526437725I mean, i don't trust them myself either, but people have pulled pretty impressive results on sub 1k thrown together machines with steppers and all. >>526438640Meh, sounds too much like a slippery slope towards IP protection. At least i have to see some ghost gun school shooting first to maybe believe otherwise.
>>526438640Given that cracking farm equipment is nearly ubiquious since John Deere went turbo-jew and def/dpf systems were added to all diesel equipment. I doubt that it would be much of a barrier to the more tech-savvy crowd of the 3d printing community. I'm not too worried, when a new technology comes along that upends the current paradigm, no one can stop it. Pass all the laws you want, it will have zero effect other than wasting time and making you look the fool.
>>526439086>I mean, i don't trust them myself either, but people have pulled pretty impressive results on sub 1k thrown together machines with steppers and all.I've seen outstanding work on weaponsguild using benchtop manual machines, they can deliver awesome results. It's still far more difficult and costly than 3d printing though for a product that is only marginally superior.
>>526439466I do think it's quite substantially. Moreso as a cast will still require finishing work. Or maybe it's just Kraut autism calling for precision.
>>526433784>Wah, nobody want to consoom, wah.Wargaming and other hobbies like it can be done using arts and crafts. I've played games using colored rocks and pine cones. It's a business born from frivolity and manchildren. Make shit yourself, don't give money to corpos, and have fun with friends. You shit eating, unimaginative goblin.
>>526433287That violates the Constitution in many ways.
>>526439894Finishing work on anything soft enough to be easily cast can be done with hand tools. Mill+lathe is the superior option for diy firearms, but it comes at a substantial upfront and operating costs and well as requiring a dedicated space. In the US we can buy all the pressure-bearing components (they can be diy'd with 3d printed jigs as well) and really all of the pieces that need to be metal (rails, feed ramps, reinforcement plates). The part that actually is the firearm doesnt have tk be super precise and you can hand fit the critical parts. That makes mills and lathes more of an aspiration than a necessity.
>>526440503Washington does not listen to the constitution. We have the worst gun laws in the country. 3D printed guns were already illegal, despite zero homicides in the state as a result of them.
>>526440949The reason Washington needs a purge. Get rid of anyone that is anti-Constitution.
>>526440710Yeah, I'm not completely up to what you can and can not buy over there. At least from my previous conversations it seems to be pretty state dependent? Here it's an all or nothing discussion if you don't wanna get into bringing over packages from czech rep. That said, i just want a bigmac. It seems to be such a ridiculous gun.
>>526433784>Tons of local hobby shops that primarily focused on miniature wargames are being put out of business by 3D printing because people are just printing copyrighted minis themselves instead of buying them.FREE MARKET AT WORK NIGGER.
>>526433287Build your own 3d printer. Most of the commercial 3d printers are just uppriced DIY printers anyway.
>>526433784Based /tg/ baitposter, gottem.
>>526433287>to stop 3d printing firearms>in open carry stateso they want people to use normal guns against them?
>>526433287I wish Trump would kidnap OUR shitty politicians out of their beds in the middle of the night like he did Maduro, nobody would miss them.
>>526433784Omg, people will be flying on Jets to say this for 10 minutes in front of other people who flew around the world on Jets.If they gave a shit about this, they'd remove plastic from clothing first. Even then, 3d printing doesn't always need plastic, it can use anything.
>>526433784>noooo you should only be allowed to buy stuff from govt apprived businesses>you cant just make your own stuff or come up with new products or compete in the market>think about the jews this is costing!!!
>>526441207There are a few cuck states that don't allow firearm parts. In those states it's as illegal to buy the parts out of state as it is to make them yourself and assemble your own firearm though so it's a moot point.
>>526434557>only manufacturers are allowed to have a negative enviromental impactKINO
>>526441389Normal guns are illegal as well
>>526434507Thanks for the heads-up. Will plan accordingly.
>>526433784>Sell 5 3 cm tall figure for 40 euros>sell exclusive premium overpowered bullshit at 500 euros>WHY ARE PEOPLES PRINTING THEM AT HOME ?!
>>526433287>Washington is gearing up to ban 3D printers that are not connected to government software that prevents them from 3D printing firearm parts.anyone with access to steel pipes can make a musket. Black powder is medieval technology.
>>526433784>Not to mention, the materials used for 3D printing, especially resin printing, are very harmful to the environment if the waste isn't disposed of properly, which most owners of 3D printers don't do.You're a stupid faggot but you have a valid point here. Now go and picket outside Coca Cola HQ.
>>526433784FAGGOT
>>526433287What is a 3d printer?
>We cant ban guns>instead we will just ban anything that could possibly be used to make guns, totally legit :)
>>526435918Wow the faggot absolutely owned him.
>>526445989Don't worry, this only applies to assault printers
>>526434149Faggot. I personally use my printer all the time to make little things for my house. Electronic gadgets and such. You are 100% a fag if you have something against 3D printing.
>>526433287Reminder this isn't new technology. 2d printers stop you from printing currency.
>>526433502>Napoleon Uhhh
>>526441321This. It's just 6 servo motors and a controller and power manager when you break it down.
>>526433570Unlikely a homosexual was willing to stop at two and a half D's when three D's were available.
>>526433287commies gonna commie. stop living near them
>>526433502thats the netflix adaptation of caesar
>>526433287Literally just be a criminal about it. Don't follow dumb laws. Like stop signs when no one is around are more suggestions. People obessesively crack video games they'll do the same for 3d printers so just use an illegal one.
>>526433784Reconsider suicide
>>526433287Sort of like how C3PO couldn't speak the Sith language out loud in Rise of Skywalker.
