I always saw Russia as having the best military in the world, second to America, and their military is a lot fucking bigger than Ukraine, they have 3.5x the population. I don't see how Ukraine could hold on for nearly 4 years now, with no one helping them apart from some military aid.
>Hesitated before entering Kiev>Then the majority of the world united to hinder their progress
>>526466434>Hesitatedyou think taking a 2mln city with 10k is easy or pretty?
>>526466434Well that's gay, Ukraine isn't even a real country or a people, it's like 10 years old
>>526466368russia is shit and incompetent with a meme army + Western support for ukraine
>>526466434>Hesitated before entering KievThey ran out of gas and lost the element of surprise.
It's really Russia vs NATO/US. Ukraine wouldn't stand a chance if they were left to their own defence resources. Putin made the mistake thinking no one would intervene.
>>526466641Ukraine must be cheating>>526466690>They ran out of gasLiterally?
>>526466850https://www.npr.org/2022/03/01/1083733700/russias-40-mile-convoy-has-stalled-on-its-way-to-kyiv-a-u-s-official-says>The official added that some elements within the military column are "literally out of gas"
>>526466368>Why>I always saw>the best .. second to America,> a lot fucking bigger>how Ukraine could hold on>no one helping them>some military aidLmao, what painfully obvious BS. Is that what they teach you losers? Or did you get it out of some shitty AI?
>>526466930>a-u-s-official-saysis it the same one that said someone told him russia said they'll take ukraine in 3 days?
>>526466533Only if you're America.
>>526466986None of what I said is BS, fag
>>526466368occupying and taking over a country are two different things
>>526467250do you see no difference between "taking with 10k" and "fucking up with 30k"?
>>526466434>HesitatedGotta love zigger revisionist history.
>>526466572There was a time when America wasn't real either.
>>526467416You forgot to scale the population of Iraq's capital.
>>526466766It's Ukraine with NATO funding. NATO air power, NATO naval power, and NATO boots on the ground would rape Russia.
>>526466368Why are they obliged to do it on your time schedule?War in Russia is about internal stability and external destabilisation. They are stable. Europe is falling apart >>526466641You could just as easily flip the question and say if they're incompetent why haven't they lostThe answer to the question is really that they're not obliged to jump the hoops in your brian
>>526466368They drafted all their working class and don't want to send ethnic upper class Russians to die. Once they do that the entire war is going to tilt for them. They also can't make anything because all their workers died.
>>526467532you forgot civilian infrastructure was destroyed, starvation and disease were rampant and the insurgency continued until you left
>>526467390>>526467577How many more years until Russia takes over, I want to see Jewkraine liberated and then Yurup>>526467666Checked
>>526467670Very poor genocide on our part.
>>526466368War profiteering? I came to this conclusion months ago and I’m ok with it. Fire at will Lockheed Martin, Godspeed Indian conscripts riding on donkeys.
>>526466368Because that was never the point. War only makes money while it’s ongoing.
>>526466368It was never about defeat but a lot of dead slavs on both sidesLurk two years before posting
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>>526467473We have one of the oldest constitutional governments in the world thoughbeit. We were also mostly self governing colonies well before we established a nation.
>>526467740I fail to see where I mentioned genocide. The fact is the US failed in doing anything meaningful after thrashing Baghdad. Iraq was purely destabilizing and killing for Israel, it also birthed ISIS
>>526466368>Why hasn't Russia defeated Ukraine, (genuinely)??Ukraine was defeated in Summer of 2023.That's where most of Ukraine accumulated reserves and assets were thrown at the Surovikin line, and failed to achieve any progress aside from suffering massive casualties. The total price of training, equipment, operational costs was around ~300billion USD by different estimates.Now Ukraine no longer exists or can survive on its own, without 24/7 supply of energy, money, equipment, intelligence from the collective whole of the west. The moment someone in the west turns off the tap, expect Kiev to be abandoned by Ukrainian politicians and commanders within 48 hours. Ukraine as a country is gone. It was transformed into a PMC/mercenary-army for NATO, hence why NATO is funnelling all of its resources into it now.
>>526467576There’s plenty of off the books NATO soldiers and mercenaries, plus all the intelligence support, this makes Ukraine look incredibly incompetent now that I’m thinking about it
>>526467749>>526467800Gay if true>>526467818>>526467841Khazaria is schizophrenia, but no doubt jews have a part>>526467911>>526467911>Ukraine as a country is gone. It was transformed into a PMC/mercenary-army for NATO, hence why NATO is funnelling all of its resources into it now.So it's a puppet state
>>526467903That's typically what happens when you take over a city. A lot of angry opposition.
>>526468043>So it's a puppet stateno, it's not even a state anymoreit's a puppet mercenary organisationto be a state you need to at least have some functioning institutions or logistics that aren't directly plugged into foreign systems for crucial life support
>>526466368because London wasn’t nuked yet
>>526467251<oh wait you're serious?.png>Allright then, horseshit is is you retarded troon
>>526466850Yes.This is specifically where Russia's dream of a 3 day special operation went up in smoke.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Antonov_AirportIt's clear the original plan was to take and hold the airports and fly supplies in just behind the front line, to refuel and rearm the bulk of the army moving in.When they lost the airport to the counterattack and the Ukrainians destroyed the runways. The plan immediately went to shit, the convoy stalled and are stuck in a pointless war of attrition.
>>526468115pidor do I need to whip out zigger drone + suicide videos again and you will piss and shit yourself about gore?
>>526466368Attritional warfareConquering only exposes them to insurgency. Ukies are basically Russian and speak the same language. Fags on both sides will deny this, but it's just cope. If the Ruskies swallow all that territory, the Ukies can just blend into the population.Instead they'd rather treat it like a compstomp in a strategy game. They know Ukies will never give up territory so they set up defensive positions and allow the Ukies to keep sending territorials to the meatgrinder.Look at what happened in the Ukie summer counter offensive in 2023 or Kursk. A mechanized push without air power or arty concentration and a PR offensive that had not greater strategic purpose.
>>526466434>we hesitated for 4 years straightare all ziggers this retarded?
>>526468241Wow
>>526468174>(genuinely)??Oh wait, I just noticed you marked it 'genuinely'! So it was a real, genuine question you want to discuss. I'm sorry. I thought it was just like the 1000 other cringy dumb fucks who pose obviously rhetorical questions for the sole purpose of spinning the utter defeat of US/NATO into somewhat of a heroic success. But I see you are different, you are genuine. Agaim, sorry.Just kidding dumbass. BWAAAHAHAHA
>>526468105I know you don't care about death and destruction, but spawning a mini-ISIS in Europe would be suboptimal
>>526468749I read a book about Alexander the Great and every city he conquered had an insurgency. Every major city under Nazi Germany had an insurgency too.
>>526468333>t. mutt who barely speaks english
>>526469062you should probably read less about conquering and more about ruling. Alexander died at 30 and his empire instantly disintegrated, and Nazi Germany... Well...
It ends when every Ukrainian is dead. I'm not even joking. Ukrainians don't have the mental capacity to understand they've lost and the Jew president doesn't give a shit about dead Ukrainians. He's making a shit ton of money from all the gibs.
