Why does Trump always believe tariffs can make all his wishes come true?Does he think tariffs are Santa Claus or something?And is French wine really that good?What about Italian wine?https://x.com/i/status/2013482290349752820
>>526477279I guess I'll just buy double next time I'm purchasing some wine to make up for the loss
>>526477337You missed one>>526477228
How is it even legal for Trump to just make up rando tariffs off the top of his head like this? Isn’t there some sort of process? It just seems odd.
>>526477279I have enough of this judeo scammer
>>526477279the American consumer is more powerful than an American airman. He is still more powerful than an open nuclear silo
>>526477279>And is French wine really that good?Fuck no, massively overhyped. Most consistently good wine is Australian.Spanish and Italian wines have always been pretty good, but also still go for more than they're worth. Though that might just be for NZ.
>>526477279I don't even see why this should be taken seriously, wine makers here are rich as fucking anyways. They'll just sell somewhere else and buy only one porche this year instead of two
>>526477279It seems to work, blame the French for being easily bullied pussies
>>526477279Let's hear the liberals in wine country California bitch and cry and... WINE! >DAMN TRUMP IS MAKING IT EASIER TO SELL AMERICAN WINE FUCK HIM AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE TOO! >>526477337You kinda lost me when you just skipped over doing this for 4 whole years.
>>526477279Honestly french wine never had such a mega publicity !!!Thanks Trump !!Oh ans women in US will be so flaterred if you buy them champagne now XD Oww fuck trump is perfect, in france will like soooo much to kick bullies asses My god this guy is a benediction in a way.
American patriots drink American winehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-TgM5QptvU
>>526478700>Oh ans women in US will be so flaterred if you buy them champagne now XDAmericans have their own Champagne.
>>526477279>chink who bought french winery is afraid
>>526478810No Champagne comes from champagne region. Like havana cigars comes for cuba.
>>526477279There has never been a pettier or more pathetic man in modern history
>>526478700look at this reddit cringe cope lmaoyour faggot 'country' can't even stop rubber boats of africans invading every day and your president is a childless degenerate married to an old man
>>526478872Americans don't respect this kind of things anon> In the United States, the use of the term “champagne” is permitted on U.S. brands that were established on or before March 2006. These brands are grandfathered in and can continue using the term, as long as they accompany it with the geographic origin on the label.
>>526478872No, Champagne is produced in America. It's only a regulation you enforce and the US isn't party to. But they won't export to save your feelings. https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/loophole-california-champagne-legal/
>>526479001We absolutely can stop it though, our leaders don't want to
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>>526479016>Americans don't respect this kind of thingsWell frankly speaking it's retarded. We need to rename our locally produced Feta cheese in NZ because it's now protected by the EU and must be produced in Greece to be Feta. That shit is retarded.
>>526477279>is French wine really that good?Top tier you can find good cheap wines too>What about Italian wine?Not that good
>>526479001that are 2 different subjects. True we get rubber boat and goat fucker going in. However, loook I mean even our spineless gay tier president seems badass compared to the orange clown !That is so unenexpected we can celebrate that in France, right ? Wait until we get an actual leader. We have so badass ones in the waiting.
>>526477279As a satanic jew he values and worships money or Mammom (the hebrew demon-lord of greed) above all else and assume everyone else is ruled equally by Satan and Satanic values.
>>526478872Americans call it Sparkling Wine and some may call it Champagne, but I've always called it Sparkling Wine dripping with sarcasm because the French are such little babies about their Champagne.
>>526477279>Ching chong ping pongTell them to stop tariffing our wine then, chinksect.
>>526479129Yeh it is like a brand. If you sell burger you cannot sell them as a Big Mac
>>526479457Enjoy your wineslop, faggot. Remind us again what tariffs you have on american wine already.
>>526479129Local specialities and their specific names can and should be protected. This includes champagne and feta, whose names are valuable assets of the French and Greek people.
>>526479457>Yeh it is like a brandIt's really not, it's entirely a marketing ploy.
>>526479615Why should I care about French and Greek assets?
>>526479615Great. So when are you gonna stop using the word burger?>Inb4 this faggot thinks a hamburger is from his country and not ours
>>526479615No that's retarded. The fuck will you call Feta styled cheese? Feta just means 'slice', it's got no regional distinction nor is it unique to Greece. Same is true with Champagne.
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>>526479775>stop using the word burger?I will continue to call the American "people" burgers.>>526479820You can come up with a name that is not Feta. We use Schafskäse/sheep's cheese.
>>526479769because the alternative is eating domestic corn syrup and sawdust. I wish these trade wars wouldn't involve cheese and alcohol because I'm the only man with a sack enough to buy them
>>526479378Yea but Germans and other Europeans also make champagne that isn't called champagne for that reason. What do the Germans call it again? Sekt. German whites and eiswein are pretty good. German reds are pure garbage.
>>526479910>You can come up with a name that is not FetaBetter Feta.
>>526479910I'm sorry, but you need to call us processed ground beef patty sandwiches from here on out. It's to protect our regional identity. Only we can use that word. But you can say burga.
>>526479922I mean the only reason it exists is because the French were upset post WW1 no one could distingquish their bubbly from others if they slapped a champagne label on it.
>>526479726I mean people invents a product. They perfect it, sell it, export it, protects its name. Well it is like any brand. Call it marketing if you want, it is a part of yes. Why don't you want to change the name then ? Maybe because it is associated to an history and an certain quality. Right ?
>>526479820In Spain we have historically our own brand of Champagne produced in Catalonia called Cava.
>>526479915I dunno anon, sartori cheese is better than the shit they sell in euro stores. There are plenty of delicious Chianti without the stupid little chicken on the bottle
>>526477279WHERE THE HELL ARE THE FILES
>>526480040>Well it is like any brandIt's not, it's trying to regulate a recipe. Unless your food/drink can be distinguished emperically it's an asinine distinction for it's origin.
>>526477279100% of American wines tested, tested positive for glysophates.
>>526480089>sartori cheesevile garbage compared to euro cheese. bash europoors all you want but if I weren't able to buy their stuff, which is already unaffordable, I would kms from the infernal pain in my stomach of eating asbestos american food. I can't survive without european cheese and alcohol. I can't believe people actually eat food made in the US. I can't believe any of this is actually happening. why can't we unrestrict cheese making to the real process? it's just disturbed and orwellian
>>526480061Not surprising, it's a fairly easy concept to replicate the Champagne recipe.
>>526480138It's not even a recipe but an ingredient. They think they have a monopoly on grapes. What a bunch of faggots.
>>526480138Sure my point stands. Why not calling it Sydney Sparkling (SS) then ? Because it gain value due to its origin. You want to drink the wine of european Kings and Queen. Hence the protection.
>>526480250Whatever, VPNigger.
>>526477279Who cares, all wine is the same
>>526480250It’s gotta be a grass is greener thing, their cheese is just not that good. The only thing you’re going to get there is weird shit like raclette that nobody SHOULD eat
>>526480431Champagne is actually different from other sparkling wines but in a bad way. No idea how anybody drinks that trash. It's like drinking carbonation. A wholly unpleasant experience.
>>526480431it's not liar. every wine bottle made from france has their heart and soul in it and every wine bottle from USA is gutter piss. you're so full of shit. I won't drink wine unless it's from france or another european country. I won't even drink beer from US because it's that bad. just saying this on the internet today they'll raise beer prices again because no one is willing to say how disturbed it is.
>>526480366>Because it gain value due to its origin.It only does that because you guys are a pack of faggots and scream like an autist about other people doing it. And how does that apply to Feta? So I stick with 'better Feta' and Euro's can compete on quality not asinine naming conventions.
>>526480516Good luck convinving you wife of that at your wedding ;)
>>526479922Reds from the Kaiserstuhl are pretty good. And everyone in this thread is an idiot.t. Wine snob.
>>526480474>It’s gotta be a grass is greener thing, their cheese is just not that good.raw milk has to be held 60 days before being made into cheese here. our parmesan is fake. our other replica cheeses are fake. it's all fake. it's all lies to kill us. it's not grass is greener it's they aren't selling poison. cheese is a god tier food and you're stupid. my hair will never fall out because I dairymaxx.
Back when I drank I used to go for Chilean and Argentinian, but also Australian. Wine is dangerous if you're an alcky. I don't miss the hangovers, but I do miss the bohemian larping.
>>526480601>This nigger never had amish cheeseProbably because you aren't from this country.
>>526477279wait, is there anyone that want to go into his temu UN in the first place?
>>526480566No and and also it is the highest quality on earth. I mean for real. I don't know about feta quality in greece
>>526477279>Be france.>Can't even produce enough wine to serve the world.>Sell wine to americans in exchange of sustaining masonic semitic pedo rings of arabs.>Stop selling wine to USA>Exchange wine for dimms of ram that worth more than Californium.Well, the USA is a joke. Trades are based on worth and the world have 1 billion mexicans and anyone can set up a masonic pedo ring.
>>526480138So you can make an identical copy of a Coca-Cola and sell it under the name Coca-Cola because it tastes the same? I can draw Mickey Mouse perfecly and sell it as it under my name?No, because of copyright and brand protection.Champagne and the likes are just brand that are collectively owned by their producers and they can say who can exploit the brand name and who can't.
>>526478204He can do that if it is security related.
>>526479990Well, Burg is a German word, so you can't use that. But you can call them ERs, which is where you will go if you eat too many of them.
>>526477279>Twitter faggot puts something Trump never said in his tweet while posting what he actually said under itWhat's wrong with these "people"?
>>526480681Akshually, Mickey Mouse copying expired.
>>526477279Just buy italian wine lol.
>>526480731Literally not how it works. Champ is american english so they have to call it agne from now on? How stupid are you?
>>526480681>I can draw Mickey Mouse perfecly and sell it as it under my name?You can sell the Steamboat Willie version, it is public domain.
>>526480673>and also it is the highest quality on earthIt isn't, it consistently underperforms in blind taste tests against Australian and non Champagne French bubbly. >NoAbso-fucking-lutely. I'm sorry there's nothing special about the origin unless there is something emperically different. You can't have Manuka honey from anywhere else (save lab made) because we're the only place it grows. That's why it's unique, you can make bubbly just about anywhere.
Who caresOnly faggots and women drink wine.Would be good so we both of them up.
>>526480814or spanish, no sane person buys french wine
>>526477279>Why does Trump always believe tariffs can make all his wishes come true?He needs the tariffs to compensate for the end of the petro dollar.>Does he think tariffs are Santa Claus or something?Tariffs give him leverage and bargaining power while negotiating.>And is French wine really that good?It is not my favorite, but it surely better than US wine.>What about Italian wine?In general I like Italian wine more than French, but Spanish, Portuguese or even Greek are even better.But all this shitfest should have been conducted through diplomatic channels, you should resort to twitter only after negotiations failed, not before.
>>526480877You could literally sell the other one too if you want. You don't have to respect international copyrights if you don't want to as a nation.
>>526480896>you can make bubblyNobody forbids you to sell bubbly wine, like nobody forbids you to make coke soda. You just can't call it Champagne or Coca-Cola.
>>526480681Those are brand names, this is more akin to saying I can't sell a different cola or draw a different cartoon. Also Mickey Mouse is now in the public domain.
>>526480958>You don't have to respect international copyrights if you don't want to as a nation.it depends on the country, here we have to
>>526480959Champagne isnt a brand like coca cola, that's why it's retarded.
>>526480983Champagne is a brand name, everybody can sell bubbly wine.>Mickey Mouse is now in the public domain.Steamboat willie is, mickey mouse is not
>>526480896What? That's retarded. There's literally no reason we couldn't make manuka honey too. You think you have a monopoly on bees and trees?
>>526481045>Champagne is a brand nameNo it isn't there is no such thing as the Champagne corporation.
>>526477279Trump has no cards.
I make my own wine, 10 cents for a glas or 1 dollar for a liter if you understand the metric system.I can even carbonate it and call it Champagne if I want.But it will still only be wine without character with bubbles in it.But you do get drunk from it, cheers
>>526480896IF autralian Sparkling is better no one stops you. Find an good name. A nice story.Convince the world, and you are rich.I mean you found something then !
>>526481071On the Manuka bush, if you want to grow it and deal with the occasional toxic honey be my guest.
>>526481034Well yeah, when you're part of the game. I'm talking on a national level. If your country decides to stop respecting international copyrights, what exactly could they do to you?
>>526481137>Find an good name.Yeah, better Champagne.
>>526481078Sure there is, the Comité Champagne.
>>526481145I'm not saying it's worth it, just that we could. There's very little you can't rip off in today's globalized world.
>>526477279>Does he think tariffs are Santa Claus or something?Because, for some magical reason, every time he does it something good happens against all odds. Did you forget the part where even big bad China offered a nice deal in return for lessening the proposed tariffs?
>>526481039By which metric is it not a brand
>>526481190No it's not, that's not acompany it's a trade cartel that controls the rights to call Champagne, Champagne. Even if there's no emperical solution to determine the difference.
>>526481132no you can't call it champagne because charmat method and you don't live in champagne.
>>526481078Dude of course it is a brand, what are you talking about : https://www.champagne.fr/en
>>526478518You can get very good wine here and in Spain for 3€. Price-quality ratio probably maxes out at 7€
>>526481241These people aren't serious. Not a single one addressed the fact that france tariffs the fuck out of wine to protect its own industry.
>>526481281>Even if there's no emperical solution to determine the difference.Because there is none, duh.
>>526481257>By which metric is it not a brandThey produce nothing other than right to name your wine Champagne.
>>526478204Not really. The President is, quite literally, in charge of this sort of thing. Albeit within reason. That reason, however, can be extremely simple like "by doing this it's good for our XYZ local businesses" or "this'll being them to the bargaining table". That's why all the lefties seething over him doing it the last time with that gigantic batch of tariffs led to... nothing. Because he can do it, just like most of the shit they think he can't.
>>526481190do you also need a comite to make a croissant?
>>526481326The champagne producers produce champagne, and are all part of the Comité. Again, there's 0 difference between this and a brand. Just because it is collectively owned doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
>>526481302it is a branded region, can't get more jewish than this, no wonder only the banker can make wine that's why they have even branded lands...
>>526481241Europeans and the left are so quick to talk about how tarrifs are actually bad for Americans while every country starts to kneel when the US threatens to put some on them
>>526481316Yeah I've not been on a drinking trip to Europe and understandably it's expensive here. Be worth a go, I might be going to Madrid later this year.
>>526477279Drop the memflag, Fiverr Ranjeet.
>>526481302It's a branding, with no unique or intellectual property.....Yeah that's a useless distinction.
>>526478518 >Results of the biggest international wine competition in the past 5 years, the Decanter Awards. Each year more than 17 000 wines are blind tasted, and only the 50 that get the best average grade get a "Best in Show" award.>So out of 250 possible award in the past 5 years, these countries received:>France: 57>Italy: 37>Spain: 33>Australia: 32>Portugal: 16>Argentina: 10>South Africa: 8>New Zealand: 8>United States: 8>Germany: 6>United Kingdom: 6>Greece: 5>Chile: 5>Switzerland: 4>Hungary: 3>Austria: 3>Georgia: 2>Moldova: 2>Canada: 2>Japan: 1>Slovenia: 1>Serbia: 1 But of course nobody likes french wines.
>>526480699>give any bullshit reason for why something is national security related>takes a year for someone to say otherwiseLet's just admire how inefficient the amerilard system truly is
>>526481382>Again, there's 0 difference between this and a brand.There's 100% a difference. They're just a pack of kikes.
>>526481472>no unique or intellectual property.....What makes Coca-Cola unique? Everyone could make some coke soda at home.
>>526481523Yeah as opposed to the corporations that owns a brand, those are the good guys. You can't name a difference because there isn't one. Its the same shit.
>>526481475>But of course nobody likes french wines.They objectively don't, that's why they fail at blind tests and that British guy got a gold medal for some service station wine he brought for £5.
>>526481326OK I admit it is hard to say you are wrong. But you are... There is brand owned by several big companies, having a standard recipe strandard of quality etc. Then decide for a amount to produce every year. It is a brand. If you are not happy go burn a macdonald, champagne is a luxury brand.Where it get tricky is that champagne is so famous that it is a metonimy. Some brands are some famous they become a commun name.
>>526481605>You can't name a differenceI have, repeatedly.
>>526481637You did not, you just repeated it's different.
>>526481560>What makes Coca-Cola uniqueIt's their own recipe?
>>526477279Dunno about tariffs but yes french wines can be really good, though very comparable to italian ones.French are much iffier about it though.
>>526481662Everyone can copy that. Just like everyone can copy the recipes from champagne and say it's the same.
>>526481655>You did notI have, it's not unique. Literally the only thing unique to it is the naming convention.
>>526481732No they can't. The recipe is a famously guarded secret. You can try, though.
>>526481743Nothing is unique and everything can be copied. Every piece of cloth can be done the same as it is done in the shops, that doesn't give you the right to sell Zara or Christian Dior branded clothes.
>>526481732>Everyone can copy thatYes.>Just like everyone can copy the recipes from champagne and say it's the same.And? Coca Cola is the product of the Coca Cola corporation, reusing that name is defrauding customers and the company of sales. There is no Champagne corporation. Imitating the style and recipe us not defrauding anyone.
>>526481743Bro hey, lets be friend, calm down lets not get mad over stupids stuff. take care, no one care if it is a brand or not. insult me if it helps release tension !
>>526481825At least you admit the pretentiousness of the whole thing by comparing it to overpriced garbage.
>>526481912>calm downI am calm, I'm telling you why the rest of the world don't like Euro trash regulating names for foid stuffs. Because it's asinine and retarded.
>>526481914>comparing it to overpriced garbageWhich they buy for $10 from China before sewing a zip on and cgarging $1000
>>526478204at some point the numbers he suggests really do seem arbitrary, because he's placed tariffs on so many different things and at various rates, some seemingly are off the cuff without discussing with economist first and thats what makes me think some of the tariff numbers are arbitraryall of that said I dont care, I'm poor, the economy is for people who make more than 100k a year, if you make less than that like me, then it doesnt matter, lifestyle will not be changing because french wines costs more
>>526481788You can if you try hard enough.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDkH3EbWTYc>>526481900>Coca Cola is the product of the Coca Cola corporationChampagne is the product of the Champagne producers which are publicaly known and members of the Champagne Comité. You can copy the style and recipe, you just can't copy the name. Pretty much like any other product.
>>526481914It works the same for everything in this world, I don't understand why you need to be anal about it
>>526477337The nothingburger files
>>526481411I would recommend Sevilla, Málaga and Córdoba, they are all close by and less messy than Madrid. Avoid Barcelona at all costs.Maybe some hermano can advise you better.I also recommend driving atound sierra de gredos if you want some nature.
>>526482108>Champagne is the product of the Champagne producers>and members of the Champagne Comité.See that's where the issue is. That's a cartel, not a corporation.
>>526482000Foid and people like stories, you buy a story.Stories are the heart of civilisation. Would you buy a wooden stick ? No Would you buy a magic wand ? YesWhy do we do art ? What is so cool about a film ?
>>526482154Because those are at least companies and not entire fucking regions. There's literally nothing special about champagne. Asti is better anyway. Wine snobs are just so fucking pretentious and anal that it's absurd you want to call anyone else that word.
>>526482220This is semantics, there is no fundamental difference between the two. They own the brand name and decide what they want to do with it.
>>526482215>I would recommend Sevilla, Málaga and CórdobaI get 6 hours of free time a day for 2 weeks. 3rd week I'm on holiday so am planning to check them out.
I am just here to reaffirm my support for a 200% tariff on France, if not the entire EU, because Brigette is a man
>>526482340>This is semanticsIt isn't, this is text book trade cartel behaviour. You can't pretend to be the Coca Cola corporation as that's fraud. You can 100% brew a cola and sell it under a different name.
>>526482449>You can 100% brew a cola and sell it under a different name.... which is what everyone making bubbly wine is doing? Champagne producers are not stopping anyone from doing bubbly wine.
>>526478204He’s using some law signed in the late 70s that gives the president power to direct economic measures in an emergency. The law mentions nothing about tariffs and probably ought to be understood as sanctions, but that's what he's running with.
>>526482296I mean come in France drink the champagne in a beatiful hotel, or at sea..You will fuck you dream girl, if you bring one, in a way you will always remember. Maybe it is a bit overpriced sure. But nothing really matters if it get imprinted forever as the most beautiful moment of your life. We sure have excellent places and food to create memories that last forever.
>>526477279>americans will have to pay 200% more their wine!
>>526482628>which is what everyone making bubbly wine is doing? Champagne producers are not stopping anyone from doing bubbly wine.No it's not, the product is Champagne. Bubbly is the legally appeasing name because you operate a trade cartel. It's like if Coca Cola and Pepsi made the Cola committee and used the US government to prevent everyone else from producing 'cola'.
Call your stuff whatever you want, that shit's all retarded. That's unfortunate, we'll have to drink our wines for cheap because greedy producers can't sell their products anymore.>>5264811321€ per liter is on par with the industry, good for you. Is it good ? Btw champagne is not carbonated as "injected" with CO2, it's carbonated from fermentation inside the bottle, it's not sparkling when inside the cask.
>>526482744Except champagne is shit and only "enjoyed" by poseurs who want to seem cultured. No one actually enjoys champagne on its own merits because there are none. It's like drinking air that burns your nostrils.
>>526482757We are the largest wine producer in the world, retard.
>>526482757paedo proxy posting spastic
>>526482773>the product is ChampagneChampagne is the name of the bubbly wine the champagne producers make. Not every bubbly wine in France is called Champagne, we have a lot of them and they have their own names. Just because you started to use colloquially the name "Coca-Cola" to designate all coke sodas you make in your country doesn't give you the right to then sell "Coca-Cola" products.
>>526482773ok I see you are dense : Coca cola protects "coca" Pepsi protects "pepsi"Champagne Comité protects "Champagne"Take the time you need.
>>526482947>Champagne is the name of the bubbly wine the champagne producers make.Because. It's. A. Trade. Cartel.What is hard to understand?
>>526482913>We are the largest wine producerYou should go on a diet then. May i suggest some Ozempic?
>>526482971>Champagne Comité protects "Champagne"No it doesn't, it regulates it's usage. It's not the Champagne company that produces Champagne. It's a good boy badge on bottles.
>>526483110Ok as you want
>>526477279>Board of PeaceLMFAO! More like Board of Jewish Dick Sucking
>>526482992It's hard to understand why you think it's anything different. If the US government said 80 years ago Coca and Pepsi could have the name Cola to themselves you'd think nothing of it, and it wouldn't change much for other companies that would just have had to avoid the Cola naming convention. There is no significant differences between a name owned by a corporation and several corporations.
>>526477279Retards in this thread can't even into terroir. There is absolutely no substitute for pairing local wines with local flavors. >Volaille de Bresse with a glass of Mâcon>Tourte de la Vallée de Munster with a Riesling from Turckheim>Anchois anything with a banyuls>Aligot with a corbiere>Rochefort (Gabriel Coulet is best or Societe Templar) with a Gaillac DouxSure, we can make good stuff in the states, but it's isolated from the local. California wines pair with what? In-n-out? The beauty of the French product is that it is inherently small farms, small vineyards, local productuers. Not the globohomo Aussie mega vineyards.
>>526486054>The beauty of the French product is thatit doesn't have boomer golems fucking everything up with their rainbow flag flavors and FDA poisoning the process. boomers are incapable of sensations.
>>526478518If all your wines taste the same, that's a failure. I have tasted australian wines on occasion. It was good, I enjoyed it but nothing too much memorable. Tasmanian wines are especially good.Australian wines are made by a handful of big corporations rather than local, independant productors. They also mix grapes from various location. Both dactors indeed increase consistency but also erase local variations, wich is sad.f "consistently good" means calibrated wine i'll rather have few mediocre bottles and some exeptionnal ones.
>>526486054You're a man of culture, anon. I respect you and I raise ,:>oeuf en meurette with a Pommard
>>526477279I hate Trump but America has good wine, especially California. Just drink domestic wine.
