Has tipping gotten out of hand? USA is the only country that still does it.
>>526480682Tipping is an inately jewish concept only found in kiked societies. A price should be a price. I can see how much something costs on the menu, on my bill and that is how much I expect to pay. Maybe if these people want to get paid more without relying on what is essentially begging, they should get a job slightly more prestigious and skillfull than bussing people's dinners to them. The sooner all waiters are replaced with robots the better.
>>526480682>i don't think im getting paid enough!>i demand a raise!>oy vey goy, i would love to pay you more but when you think about it, isn't the costmer who should pay you not me?>yes moishe shecklberg you are right, why should you my heroitc job creator pay me, i will go on social media and try and humilate anyone who does not compensate me for the low wages you pay me
>>526480682thank you for alerting me to this kind of scam, I had no idea. Do you which business it was, so I can boycott them?
>>526480682Maybe you should ask your employer to pay you money instead of begging for tips?
>>526480682ill tip you a dollar if you just bring me my food and fuck off, I dont need anything else and i am okay with everything and i dont like small talk while eating. tell me where to throw the plates when im done and im out.
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>>526480682when you jsut expect it then yes.tipping if for doing good at your jobhell, my threshold is low, just keep my drink filled... they cant even do that most the time
>>526480682the last time I ordered delivery was pizza in the early 2000s. I used to always tip with cash even if I paid with card. I you'd be getting cunts sabotaging your food today if you did that
>>526480682>USA is the only country that still does it.I tip at barbers and restaurants. nowhere else. don't know why. never questioned it
>>526480682I only tip tradespeople some money for a drink because its hard work, these people are just walking to a table back and forth.
>>526480941Tipping is what your society did before it was kiked.
>>526480682The entire concept of restaurants is outdated outside high end places.
>>526480682I don't understand why people are not just paid directly good enough salary to live with. No need for this strange tipping ritual. Just add 10-15% to prices and pay salaries with that ffs.
>>526484216Deserved for using goy eats
>>526485743because that's less money for the owner silly
>>526480682I completely avoid any service the requires a tip. Not hard at all.
>>526480682this only happens when they try to use a coupon/discount/promo, it calculated the suggestions from the menu prices and not the discount price, but congrats on having a calculator app "math doer :)"
tipping is the only reason I make 50k/year instead of 20kfuck off niggers I need this
>>526480682>wait a minute. No way!>gets the calculator>checks math>...Son of a bitch. He's right. I had no idea!
>>526480682Imagine being so poor you gotta make up mental gymnastics and copes to why you cant tip instead of just not tipping
>>526485743Because salaries at restaurants would be minimum wage, and servers make more than that with tips because they’re already guaranteed minimum wage if they make below that per hour with tips, but if their tips bring them over minimum wage, the owner can pay them lessSo to recap:Owner gets more money with tipsWaitress gets more money with tipsTips allow repeat customers to prove they are “worth it” and receive better service the next timeReasons you think not to tip:You’re a European who hasn’t spent decades watching the benefits of tippingYou only experience discourse online about itIt sounds stupid until you see it in action
>>526486179I visited the US and saw no difference in service.
>>526485862If your place doesn't have in house delivery I'm not ordering. If you use Jewber Eats you're a protozoan golem NPC reacting only to stimuli such as light, sound, and hunger
>>526485743Because wages are taxed additionally on a federal level based on drinks served, under the presumption that every drink served earns the waiter/tender a tip.
>>526486145The guy tipped 20%. $6.10 is 20% of $30.53.Frankly he shouldn’t tip at all.
>>526486291That's cuz you're black.
>>526484216how fucking stupid can you be to pay for the privilege of having brown people be unsupervised for any amount of time with something you plan to eat?
>>526481442It's infuriating. Once I worked in operations and got a good understanding of how businesses operate it became so infuriating how this one vertical of industries just gets to pad their shit margins by bullying free money out of the consumer. Kikery of the highest order.
>>526480682I don't tip women and niggers. I only tip the hard working white man.
>>526486466$6 is literally nothing most people have that in change in their car or couch.
>>526480682Many such cases.Nice culture you got there, burgers.
>>526480682>still got 20%>still complainswomen are jewish puppets
>>526486609Funny thing is even with the extra money 90% of restaurants go under within a year. Not that I mind since they all server the same sysco garbage anyway.
>>526486650And then it's not in your couch anymore the next time you order.
>>526480682if they can't afford to pay their servers they shouldn't be fucking open
The combination of tipping and no job security was invented to push the cost of having service staff off a business and onto the customer.A business can easily hire in the hopes of needing the staff and it costs them very little. If the staff are not needed they are just fired. On the other hand, if there is lots of work for the service staff, the customer pays them.Its pretty kiked.
>>526486710Absolutely. Even playing life on easy mode they constantly fail.>>526486851Precisely.
>>526480682I usually hover around 10%, rounding up or down in the process.If someone pulled this, I would confront them about the scam straight up, instead of doing some smiley face 'muh maff' faggotry. It's fucking disguting behaviour.
>>526480682It isn’t the server directly. Most servers have to tip out the bar backs, the cooks, and the busboys. In most Indian and Chinese restaurants in the US, the owner takes his cut before the servers divide the loot.
>>526486678Why are you tipping on the taxes?
>>526486771You shouldn't even notice $6 missing is my point its literally nothing and if $6 hurts you that bad then you probably need to reevaluate your life
>>52648667844.2 *.2 = 8.84
>>526487086That same logic goes for the one wanting the 6 dollars
>>526486678Shit I'm never trusting those receipts again. I'm checking math like a nerd everywhere I go now.
>>526484216That’s what you get for ordering slop 40min away. I don’t order because of pajeets.
>>526485461Nope, mate.Dude here is right: >>526480941I have dated a top notch Jewess and she would be offended when i didn't tip her Jewish service providers in my country, which is heavily *non tipping*.It is all about taxes. They charge each other 85% of the actual price, still making a profit, but the assumption is that you will tip 15% so that the share is non-taxed. And nobody refuses tips, and the customer is allowed to pay more.This also helps them really reduce the impact of the Government charging taxes, while at the exact same time, they can sell stuff at a dumped price.Counter-intuitively for a random Anon, yeah... But OMG if it isn't effective:>lower prices so you have a 1-5% margin at best>garner customers so you earn on big numbers>somehow, a selected batch of customers pays you a legit, non-dumping price, under the tableAnd that's your wealth. Genius, huh? That's genius.
>>526480682This only happens in the liberal/retard cities. In most small towns, people will aggressively hit the "no tip" button, tip in cash and no it won't be some fucking 15% tip.
>>526486179>Because salaries at restaurants would be minimum wageMotivation: Amerifats might have a "customer culture" but never had a real food culture. Therefore, they keep considering "waiting tables" as an infimous and puny occupation, whereas it is an art in its own right.
>>526487562Exactly. It's a very sinister practice.
>>526486820This, why the fuck do we have to subsidize restaurants paying people like fucking $3 an hour. If tipping was banned what would happen, prices at sit downs would go up then to compensate? Maybe that is just reflecting the actual price of food and explains why bizarrely you can go to a chilis or applebees and pay less for food than fucking McDonald's. Guess which one of those doesn't have mandatory tips.
>>526486179>Tips allow repeat customers to prove they are “worth it” and receive better service the next timeAmerican mindset:>you have to "prove" yourself as a customerFuck no. The seller shall prove worth my cash, not vice versa. What kind of fucked post-capitalist mindset is this? Are you people dumb or what? Do you realise that you are implying a venue shall not provide "equally good service" to all its customers?
>>526486650If it’s “not that much money” then the server shouldn’t care if they get tipped that or not.
>>526480682Over here it's called "change".It's customary to leave change, but it's usually like at most up to 2 euro per person, regardless of how much you spent on your food.
>>526480682>boomer tipping rage bait postThis site posts twitter threads non stop but now facebook tier boomer bait? Grim
If you are against tipping you are a bootlicking statist. Tipping benefits the consumer, the employee, and the business owner.>Consumer gets to enjoy service without paying sales tax on overpriced goods>Employee can hide tip wages from government taxation>Emoloyer doesn't have to pay employer taxes on tip wagesThe ONLY people that lose when tipping is involved is your government. Don't be a bootlicker, support tipping!!
>>526487562Why are you so fucking gay about this? Why are all euros so gay about this, actually?
>>526488071Did you type this with your schnozz? Be honest.
>>526480941Based.
>>526488071>Tipping benefits the consumer, the employee, and the business owner.>please allow me to repeat what I have been indoctrinated with since early childhoodYou sound like one of those NRA guys that claim being libertarians wile they are, in fact, the ultimate lickers of boots.
>>526488071>Tipping benefits the employeeTipping actually means the employer can underpay their employees.This is like saying sweatshops are good because they put money into kid’s pockets.
>>526480682Is true that in USA people tip as a way to remember the piece of the penis they lost after birth?
>>526488179>Why are you so fucking gay about this? Why are all euros so gay about this, actually?>THUMB WAR VETERANAnon... I...
>>526480682Americans tip their supermarket too>Oh yeah dude that's ACTUALLY not the real price, we didn't put the tax on the shelf :^)
>>526480682Americans love tipping their dicks
>>526488279>they get away with paying servers below minimum wage because tips are so profitable>compare that to sweatshop workDamn, and you people have the nerve to call tipping jewish.
>>526488413>THUMB WAR VETERANHey, anons, who's gonna tell him?
>>526488279>Tipping actually means the employer can underpay their employees.Thats not true because employers have to balance the pay out to min wage in the event a server doesnt make it in tips
>>526480682Waiters in america are like those beggars who start whiping your windshield unprompted. I would much rather just go and get my own food from the kitchen.
>>526488516Tell me what? More bullshit that I effortlessly destroy with superior logic?
>>526487959Most servers dont. Youre not special because you cant tip
>>526487909>What kind of fucked post-capitalist mindset is this?Burgers get bullied and shamed by entitled cunts.
>>526480682Most I'll tip is saying "keep the change" because having coins in my wallet is a pain in the ass>driving in a taxi.>chat with the driver>arrive at destination>price is £14.20>hand him tenner and a fiver (that's £15.00)>tell him "Keep the change">him "thanks man, appreciate that">grocery shopping>price comes to £48.53>hand the cashier two twenties and a tenner>tell her "Keep the change">her "thank you very much"You either keep the change or give it back to me.I'm not doing any fucking calculations.
>>526488191>Did you type this with your schnozz? Be honest.Yes, generously compensating servers to the disadvantage of the government is Jewish all of a sudden, and the people vehemently against tipping and hording their pennies are not Jewish. Wow what a stunning intellect you have.>>526488269>claim being libertarians wile they are, in fact, the ultimate lickers of bootsSo real libertarians want to pay more to the government? Explain this.>>526488279>Tipping actually means the employer can underpay their employees. Muh Sweatshops.The whole point is people actually do tip, so the employee is actually not underpaid at all, only the taxable portion is reduced.
>>526480682tipping culture sucks because they'll lie in the calculations and chimp out when you don't tip enough. It's an expectation, not a pleasant surprise. That's what burns my ass about it.
>>526480682>Has tipping gotten out of hand? USA is the only country that still does it.all the places I'm a regular at, I tip 20-25%trust and believe, THEY ALL JUMP and give me the best fucking service imaginableits similar to my job where I get a quarterly bonus based on my performanceINCENTIVE
>>526486139>1/5 of 30>needs calculatorHerr Bürgermeister...
>>526488722I bet that shit didn't happen in the 70s much. I imagine the top down stress of not having valuable money causes much of the problems you're talking about. I don't eat out any more either for various reasons. (I'm broke and don't like niggers)
>>526488681Yeah that's based. You're based.
>>526480682I notice something like that, I leave ZERO.Number playing mother fuckers can go fuck themselves and I might just walk without paying.
>>526488413Tipping isn’t stable income, which is why tipping harms them more than it hurts them.If you can pay for rent and food is entirely dependent on whether or not the people you’re serving are generous enough or can even afford to tip. If they got paid properly by their managers, that wouldn’t be an issue
>>526488743>give me the best fucking service imaginableSo what do they do? Bring your plates running?
Eh, I thought tip was supposed to be 10 to 15%?Asking more than that with todays inflation is retarded. American restaurants need to start actually paying their servers, if they keep being greedy dickheads demanding EXTRA tips then no one's going to want to eat out.I'm glad I have no plans on traveling to the US, if I did I would just eat slop food, fuck your greedy self-entitled restaurant servers.
>>526488968You're right.
>>526489046>dont wait to get service, ever>food comes out fast and sometimes they put me ahead of other customers>my drink is checked on multiple times>my check comes quicklypay your help and they take care of youowning a business 101it works for service too
>>526480682You actually do the tip based on the pretax amount.
>>526489283zoomers have never helped anyone out much less provided good service and gotten paid for itgood wait staff get paid more in tips than they bring home in salarywhen its all cash they can decide how much of it to reportpeople just hating on tipping because the insolvency of the western central banking system is causing mad inflationdont punish the help who has nothing to do with what's driving inflationbut I get it, when you're broke and can barely afford the meal to begin with, tipping sounds like a lot
>>526484216why cant tyrone shoot this karen so we have one problem less???
>>526488603>THUMB WAR VETERANhe doesn't know
>>526488829>>526488902Do you know you must be 18 y.o. to post here, schizo?
>>526489491>dont punish the help who has nothing to do with what's driving inflationNot only that, but if you say "pay the employee more so we don't have to tip" the price of that payroll goes into the cost of the meal, pushing already outrageous prices even higher.
>>526489283>fuck your greedy self-entitled restaurant serversIt's not even servers anymore, everyone who performs any type of service (skilled or otherwise) wants a tip. From the concierge of your vacation to the retarded Starbucks monkey who poured your coffee.Tipping is good in that it stifles the government (when you tip cash, like you should), but it's also bad in that it's an expectation rather than a reward. As with all things, a fine idea became too big and is now an issue.Tipping is for retards, not tipping is for niggers. You should be paying for the party's meal and having everyone else handle the tip.
>>526480682Tipping is UnAmerican
>>526481443Americans. They don't pay their employees. They let them work for the privilege to beg the guests of the house for money.
>>526481443Like all of them do this. You're only supposed to tip on price of the meal but ((())) calculate tip post tax as well. And remember, 15% is normal and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
>>526488815Sorry I went to public schools growing up. I was more worried about getting beat up by niggers than figuring out what the square root of 2 is.
>>526480941Tipping started because freed slaves that waited tables were paid lower salaries in the U.S. Customers would leave TIPS "To Insure Prompt Service", discouraging the slave from chimping out on them. A 10% tip was customer, with up to 15% for excellent service. The slave labor went away but the tradition continued.
>>526489491>don't punish the help who has nothing to do with what's driving inflationI know, I do feel bad for them, they should really be making a proper wage. There must be some reason your federal government has never addressed this problem, in most countries paying below minimum wage is illegal, unless you're getting paid under the table, unreported/undocumented.>>526490318>everyone who performs any type of service wants a tipThat's been happening here too. I think Subway was the first fast-food chain to have a tip-container thing at the cash. At Tim Hortons you just put your change on the counter or tell them to keep it.
>>526480682If people stop eating out her tips go from lower than she wants to nothing
>>526480682for a $30 to $50 bill I usually just tip about $5. don't see why adding a couple of drinks should suddenly double the amount of money they make.
I will NEVER understand why you fall for this propaganda.>If you don't tip then prices will raise to pay staff a fair wageThat's just bending over for the kike's profit margin being paramount, rather than striking a balance, like any other company/industry has to when factoring in overheads.>Tip a percentageBitch, does carrying a plate with a hamburger or a steak on it change the job, or are you still just carrying a plate?The more you're paying for in a normal society actually generates good service without a tip, because you are contributing a greater percentage of profit and wages than other people.>If you can't afford to tip then you can't afford to eat outWhat a free society! How does that make any sense? Say someone saves for a week to have enough for a family meal, they could in fact work a minimum wage job themselves, but now they are beholden to pay 120% because otherwise they are making people poor? Impoverish your family so one server gets one less tip...You know what is worse than no tip? No business at all. That's one less person who contributed to the business, retard.
>>526480682Tipping is for high trust white societies. Various shitskins like niggers, indians, arabs and ultimately the penny pinching kikes are the MOST opposed to it. Just look at the dumbass faggots in here trying to spin stories about how jews love tipping. What a load BS.
>>526491444>That's just bending over for the kike's profit margin being paramount, rather than striking a balance, like any other company/industry has to when factoring in overheads.You do know that factoring in overheads impacts the price, don't you anon? Like you have actually run a business before and you are not just some retard in his moms basement talking out of his ass, are you?
>>526480682tipping in the us started during the depression as a way for family owned restaurants to stay afloat and make up for operational costs. now it's a greedy scam for the owners and staff alike. it should be a commission based job with a base salary and bonuses. they tried it in nyc 10 years ago but it flopped bc of said greed
>>526480682OH NO THAT POST MAKES ME INSANE WITH ANGER
>>526489307>my drink is checked on multiple timesWhat?
>>526493173how would greed cause a sales quota system for a server to fail? Sounds like greed makes that system work better.At any rate, bonuses on sales would be a great thing to do in a restaurant. You give SPIFFs on food that is expiring soon to get it out the door. Tips still work in that world and allow the owner to include lower salaries so the staff and the restaurant pay lower taxes. The only people that complain about tips are cheap fucks who have no idea how the world works and government cronies. Tipping ends the Fed.
>>526491231>don't see why adding a couple of drinks should suddenly double the amount of money they make.used to be standard custom that you don't tip on taxes or alcohol, or maybe like a $1 a drink on alcohol but now they'd get all pissy if you tipped the correct way like that. Eating out has zero value unless it is a very high end place for a special occaision
>>526481629employer will just say take it or leave it.
>>526485420>these people are just walking to a table back and forth.do it for 8 hours.
>>5264857431) The owner makes less money2) Tipping only exists to subsidise the poor in America.
I made $400 in tips and wage last night and mondays are notoriously slow. You niggers are giving me the equivalent of a 60k/year salary and I only work 4 hour shifts lmfao
>>526493141Why should a business who cant pay their workers enough to exist exist? And why should this be the consumers problem? If a business has to rely on tipping just seems like a
When I took the family to disneyland I held up a tip thinking a waiter would serve us first but they didn't, this happened multiple times. Apparently they only want a tip after they serve you, but then what's the point unless you're already known to them and they know they get a larger tip for good service? In the end I didn't tip anyone.Tipping used to be a good system in the past so that intelligent superior people like me who invested in bitcoin can enjoy the privileges we are entitled to, but the system is broken.
I usually tip ~10% of the bill for decent service, but if a waiter is lazy or unfriendly (or the tip is already written on the fucking bill) I just give them a few cents to really piss them off.Tipping culture is still a cancer and I wish we didn't have this shit here.
>>526493508>Tipping ends the Fed.this was true before credit card transactions made up 85% of sales. you used to be able to hide tax but now that it's digital there's a paper trail. it used to be $20 plus $4 tip. now it's $20, 8% sales tax, 4% cc service fee and 20% tip on top. tips have been going down over the last 5 years
>>526485346I am confused, why don’t they like being tipped with cash?
>>526487562>I've dated a Jewnever ask the neo-Nazi the ethnicity of his girlfriend
I don't go out anymore after having kids. Its a combination of qyality of food and service decline + higher prices that fucked me up. I was a real paypiggy tipper for quite a long time too.
>>526486544This honestly. I won’t eat at restaurants that are too “ethnic” because of my /pol/ paranoia
Recently while drunk I ate a bunch of goyslop. I got a giftcard and a free meal from halal guys over Christmas almost a month ago. Something I realized is, having spent approximately 20,000 dollars on fast food over the last 10 years, I don't really like the taste of goyslop anymore.I just made a butter covered bagel grilled cheese with sharp cheddar and blue cheese dressing, with the cheese also sauteed in butter. It's a lot better than the slop at chic fil a.I used to have this huge urge to go and get fast food and be like "I GOT NO FOOD IN MY HOUSE" for years, I'm a bit ashamed now because since 2017 things would have gone more smoothly for me if I hadn't been such a fast food sloppisseur. Definitely would have invested a lot more.Anyway I guess my point is the last time I went to a sit down restaurant with tipping was 6 years ago and I don't see myself ever returning.
>>526480682> shouldn't be dining outYeah, good idea. You got this, goys, do the needful for me.
>>526495959I think he means like you pay online with your card and tip in person with cash instead of with card, to insure proper service, would get NIGGERS fucking with his food. Anyway it's not worth it anymore. It used to be pizza delivery guys were all white people but now it's a mystery. All of the hokey suburban fun of a lot of america has been ruined.
>>526480941That was idiotic, anon.You believe in omnipotent jewish overlords that rule over every aspect of your existence and that is nuts. You literally invented a convoluted backstory to prove "our" total submission to these jewish rulers. Get help.
>>526495959They think they aren't being tipped and fuck up the food before even showing up to deliver.
>>5264806821. This is a split check2. Ok go ahead and tell people not to come tip youRetard
>>526480941>A price should be a price.It's just a scam to psychologically manipulate retarded normalfags.>Walk into a place and see a big sign "$9.99 burger">Waiter tries to trick you into adding stuff with ambiguous language "Mayo on it is fine right?" (mayo costs +$3)>Sales tax + random other "taxes" and fees you've never heard of.>20% minimum tip to not spit in your food if you return.>Leave paying like $17+I always tell them "I want the stuff that comes with it at your $9.99 cost" which tends to piss them off.Once in a while i'll have one that argues with "well nothing technically comes with it unless you request it" then I ask them to specifically tell me what addons cost money and which don't which pisses them off more.In spite of being very alert to this I still will have them get one over on me occasionally in which case I take the upcharge directly out of their tip.They want to normalize the idea that "prices don't matter only poors care about a few bucks" and have everybody blindly swipe cards without thinking about price. Zoomers are generally fine with it because they dislike math which is why so many people are debt slaves.Seeing more places that don't even want to put prices on their menus and argue with you when you ask or say "I dunno until it is rung out".
