I truly cannot understand how Conservatives think no matter how much I try to read your literature or follow the ideology. To me the problems of the world are complex, and even to the extent that they are simple, they are so far off from what you guys describe. The problems today are due to unaffordable housing, immense wealth inequality, environmental concerns, geopolitical tensions.It is not due to trans people or illegals. What we're seeing in the White House right now is immense corruption and victim blaming. We need socialism, or at the very least Progressive solutions to solve our problems. This Elbows Up Canadian is not liking what I'm seeing.I say this as a member of the Canadian working class. We need to focus on housing, wage growth, and affordability. Not on culture war nonsense. My enemy isn't you guys, it's unfettered capitalism.
>>526972098illegals and immigrants in general are a major reason the wages are stagnant and everything is so expensive
I don't get Canadian conservatives, like how are they even substantially different enough from the Liberal party for JJ McCullough to get all worked up about it? At least our conservatives distinguish themselves from bog standard neoliberalism by being retarded hogs.
>>526972098I’m an American hockey fan and I can’t understand how any of you don’t kill yourselves after a 33 year (and counting) Stanley Cup drought. I remeber when you rioted and set Vancouver on fire because you got cucked by the Pooins lmao
>>526972098>The problems today are due to unaffordable housing, immense wealth inequality, environmental concerns, geopolitical tensions.>HousingSupply and demand. All those extra people need somewhere to live.>Wealth inequalityThose extra people are depressing your wages as the pleb on the shop floor but making the guy at the top megabucks>Environmental concernsTaking third worlders and then giving them a first world living standard means all the extra environmental stuff that goes with it>Geopolitical tensionsImporting these people means that all those foreign wars are now also being fought on your own streets as you see time and again.
>>526972098JEET THREAD
>>526972323The TV told them they are great though. You're not on the TV so your opinion doesn't matter to them.
>>526972098> no matter how much I try to read your literature Stop lying. Explain which literature are you reading. > environmental concerns, Ah , I rest my case. Our enemies are ILLEGALS. We cannot balance the budget with ILLEGALS receiving free shit.
>>526972455>JEET THREADLikely. >>526972634
>I'm.a Canadian liberal
>>526972098tell us what did canada do to the candadian truckers protest?
>>526972098I'm sorry you are really stupid?
>>526972098I love my country and my culture. If you cant comprehend that please kys.
>>526972098>as a member of the Canadian working classYou're a faggot and you've never put in an honest day's work as a laborer.
>>526972323By literally any metric, and by any method of truth deduction (rational inquiry, evidence), immigration is good for the economy. Without immigration you don't have economic growth, you don't have wage growth, you have stagnation and wage decline. >>526972559Nope, education and reading. Why do you blame immigrants? You don't readHow does deportations improve your life? You don't have the education to explain it.
>>526972098> The problems today are due to unaffordable housing, immense wealth inequality, environmental concerns, geopolitical tensionsyou 105 iq retards are insuferable, we already know all that
>>526972098> We need to focus on housing, wage growth, and affordabilityglad we’re in the same boat (fascism)
>>526972427>Supply and demand. All those extra people need somewhere to live.It's basic supply and demand, without immigrants to supply their labor to build housing, we can't build any more>Wealth inequalityImmigrants skyrocket wages via boosting GDP. Some rich people may try to capitalize off of it but if all the extra wealth goes towards sky high wages, they can't really benefit.>Taking third worlders and then giving them a first world living standard means all the extra environmental stuff that goes with itKuznet curve has debunked this, only wealthy societies can afford to go green.> Importing these people means that all those foreign wars are now also being fought on your own streets as you see time and again.Not if they integrate and become accustomed to peaceful living.
>>526972807How come we were a tier 1 economy until 2015 or so and it's gone down since despite record levels of immigration?Just trying to unpack this..
>>526972807>How does deportationsThe illiterate nigger is trying to larp as someone "who reads". Kys you fucking moron
>>526972750Then support Liberalism so it's preserved, nothing has destroyed more culture than Fascist Imperialist wars.>>526972735You're highly uneducated.>>526972900You are extremely uneducated if you don't realize fascism is the problem.
Unaffordable housing or houses too fucking big so there's a bathroom for every bedroom and a great room bonus room yoga room and walk in closets big enough to be bedrooms. Americans want cheap but fucking massive and that circle isn't squared. Good schools, oh no can't live in that neighborhood those are cracker box houses people will think we are pooooorrr. People in tents on the sidewalk hell no not anywhere in the West. Don't give a fuck what their problem is.
OP is definitely a poojeet
>>526972992Yeah, this is a jeet. You need to go home. you are 1) taking white male jobs, and 2) 10 people you are living with collect too much free shit, aAnd we can't balance the budget. >>526972634
>>526972992But our GDP is tanking? What's up with that?
>>526972427Do the showing picture saar.
>>526972735You're illiterate, uneducated, unacommplished.>>526973096>Deficits increased, devaluing the dollar further>Monetary expansion (money printing to fund said deficits)>Zoning regulation increase that made it impossible to build new housing units>Energy regulations that made it harder to expand our economy>Labor regulations that capped graduation of new doctors, making medical costs rise that was footed by the tax payer (and money printer)
>>526972992>without immigrants to supply their labor to build housing, we can't build any moreBullshit. We can build our own houses.>Immigrants skyrocket wages via boosting GDP.Bullshit. If that was true then we would all be rich. We're not.>Kuznet curve has debunked this, only wealthy societies can afford to go green.Bullshit. The third world might not have windmills but they also don't have significant industry, cars, ships shipping stuff around the world, and so on.>Not if they integrate and become accustomed to peaceful living.Bullshit. You cannot just put a gorilla through university and then have them join human society. It doesn't work like that.
>>526972699>>526972455Saar we are all Canadian.See we do the waving of the flag too saars.
>>526972559>You're not on the TV so your opinion doesn't matter to them.This is true of everyone, no matter their political affiliation. Genghis Khan would be popular with the average voter, if he had a segment on late night television programming.
>>526973278I'm a post doc at a major university. You're an illiterate nigger larping as well read and not retarded.
saar all my cousins in india are just as canadian as you are
>>526973126People don't want big houses, people want townhouses.The 0.001% you see demanding big houses aren't the normal Americans, they're hoarders who will never be satisifed.>>526973169You need immigrants if you want to balance the budget.>>526973176>Increased regulation making it impossible to build housing units, pushing rent costs up, which push up labor costs, which decreases productivity (as measured by output - inputs since input costs are increasing)>Increased business regulation>Changing demographics, more old people>More and more government employee hires are siphoning labor from the private sector.
>>526972807its simple supply and demand, i can't believe i have to explain this, more workers means lower wages, less demand for workers, more home buyers mean more expensive housing, more demand for housing.
>>526973278You're kind of changing the subject, you said the economy grows because of immigrants but it shrinks because of regulations? So wouldn't simply removing the regulations allow growth?
>>526973281>Bullshit. If that was true then we would all be rich. We're not.If it were true that immigration was bad for an economy, then North Korea and Nigeria would be the wealthiest nations on the planet.North Korea has 0 immigrationNigeria has NEGATIVE immigrationThey are too of the poorest nations on the planet, proving the economic miracle that is immigrationEveryone is rich relative to people in nations that don't take in immigrants.
>>526972807>By literally any metric, and by any method of truth deduction (rational inquiry, evidence), immigration is good for the economy.A billionaire cares about the economy.A working man cares about the price of a box of chicken nuggets and a pack of cigarettes.When the economy is doing great, but the nuggets are five times the price they were six months ago, then we should set aside economic arguments and begin considering quality of life as a better metric.Mass immigration lowers quality of life for everybody except the multinational corporation owners who benefit from having foreign pseudo-slaves working for them. It benefits nobody except the people who have no need for anything to benefit them.i'm not opposed to immigration for economic reasons though. I oppose it for environmental reasons (Suburb creep to support spiking population results in mass deforestation).The right's mindset is one of simple, practical considerations.
>>526972098Post hand before I finish reading Seriously. Go ahead.
>>526973278Those are very valid points which I'm surprised you admit to as a liberal, but mass immigration absolutely also raises prices, especially housing, as well as further straining government services and spending. It's simply dishonest to deny that.
>>526973481but saar more indians will build all the houses, just ignore the results of the last 25 years and it makes perfect sense
>>526973595The immigrants *come to* the rich countries. Nobody wants to travel round the world to make a new home in North Korea or Nigeria.
>>526973398You're not in an American Ivy League or a British legacy school like Oxford.You're totally uneducated, you can't even write.You're white trash.>>526973481Is this bait or is education illegal in America?This is the most economically illiterate thing I think anyone has ever said.>>526973567Yes, but it also helps to have more people willing to work espeically to offset the retiring boomers. What would do better, an island with 1000 people, where 500 work and 500 are retired, or an island with 2000 people where 1500 are working and 500 are retired?
>>526972098Kill yourself commie.
Kill all tranniesGas chambers for illegalsGlobal jihad on shitskinsOp is a faggot
>>526972098Canada is a collapsing shithole and only 27% of canadians under 40 support the liberals, you are a tiny minority so you must actually be elderly.You are a boomer so you must be removed like the dog you are. Trip, fall, break your hip and expire you old fuck.
>>526973617Except who benefits from big corporations? It's not billionnaires, billionnaires already have their billions. It benefits the non-billionnaires, the workers, the employees, the investors and stockholders.If immigration lowers the price of a chicken nugget or cigaratte box then it will benefit the working man.>>526973629What if the immigrants come in and work extremely hard in the housing industry to mass build housing to flood the market?>>526973709They come to rich countries but if they work, produce wealth, boost the economy, then that means more capital will circulate for everyone else too.
>>526972098Oh wow it's a thread where a liberal just lies constantly and pretends not to know what what everyone is mad about. Kill yourself you stupid piece of shit.
>>526973812>workLmao you fucking retard. Your whole perspective revolves round GDP md economic numbers huh? If killing you would make the GDP go up, I wonder if you'd commit suicide.
>>526974021Wrong. It just means the rich guys at the top make more money as they don't have to pay their workers (i.e you) as much. Do you suddenly not care about wealth inequality?
>>526972098literally 90% of chuds are racist white nationalists because they can't get a white girlfriend, are jealous of specifically black men having sexual relationships with white women, and also think any woman with a skin tone darker than a paper bag is ugly and that being ugly makes them not humanit is peak aesthetics autism
>>526973415Oh yes saar very much so.We are all canadians saar, just like these proud and true canadians. Everyone of the people on the picture is a canadian now saar, canadana is the most populated country in the world now saar.Total canaydian victory saars.
>>526972098>unaffordable housingOverpopulation and over immigration>immense wealth inequalityPartially because of the above but at the extremes, it's just due to money being put to work making more money. It's effectively impossible to fix because if you try to limit their money or take it, they'll just leave. It's about finding a balance in taking less of their money compared to equally good places to be>environmental concernsPartially because of overpopulation We just need more nuclear energy, that's about it>geopolitical tensionsNothing we can do about this
>>526973812>Yes, but it also helps to have more people willing to work espeically to offset the retiring boomers.We do not need to offset them. This is not a problem.The only people who think this is a problem are those who have their vast offshore wealth invested in real estate and pension fund assets.People growing old is not and has never been a problem. Societies expand and contract all the time. The only reason it is perceived as a problem, is because so much of our imaginary money is betting on the hamster wheel continuing to spin.You can just let the hamster wheel stop. The only people doing this would hurt, are people who bet their life savings on their ability to continue to hurt others and make other people suffer. Those types of people losing a bet is a good thing.
>>526974060Actually yes, if I was unable to work and be useful I would not bother livingFortunately I work very hard and take pride in my work. I'd rather die than be permanently unemployed living off handouts.
>>526973812good rebuttal saar
>>526972098You and your retarded ilk created all of those problems. The most obvious solution is to remove you retards from the equation.
>>526974112Then all that money gets taxed and used to pay for healthcare, they keep none of it.The workers then see prices of everything they buy tank since it can be produced so much cheaper. It now costs $20 for an Uber, not $80 for a taxi. Food is now 30% off because of migrant labor. Suddenly we can buy so much more.
>>526974141-50,000,000 izzat.
>>526972098I wont answer your questions but I will ask one for youwhy were unions historically anti-immigration?
>>526973812>I am educated though>Huuuyrr if its not the places I approve of then it doesn't count chudFuck off leftist scum. You're not here to debate in good faith. Your kind is why things have gone to utter shit.
>>526973812For centuries the 1000 person island with 500 competent works was doing great. The 2000 person island with 1500 idiots was floundering. Would you recommend changing that?
>>526974021If Africa was a white continent, it would be more economically productive. It would be developing new medical cures, launching spaceships to Mars, it could be the global economic powerhouse. If only it was white.Demographics matter.But your idea is to proliferate more low IQ shitskins to drive down the price of labor, so that everyone can live in a tin shack. This somehow is a genius move in your eyes.Whatever, whites are being eradicated from Canada anyway. Nothing you believe even matters. It's like talking to a member of a soon-extinct species.
The British East india Company sent a few sailors to india, the sailors were tasked with performing the jobs that locals were unskilled to doHaving boosted the economy of the region, the natives decided to reward the sailors with a big diamond for the sailors to bring home
>>526974257Except none of that has happened, retard.
>>526972098Having read your responses, the truth is, you are just dumb. You have a room temp IQ and that is why nothing makes sense to you.
>>526974021>It's not billionnaires, billionnaires already have their billions. It benefits the non-billionnaires, the workers, the employees, the investors and stockholders.This is an extremely incorrect statement. The price of RAM right now is one example of how wrong it is. These people completely destroyed a consumer market, decimating quality of life for hundreds of millions of people, for the sake of chasing a digital dragon. It's stupid and pathetic, and shows how irresponsible they are.>If immigration lowers the price of a chicken nugget or cigaratte box then it will benefit the working man.It does neither. More people means resources are more scarce, as they have to be divided amongst a larger populace. Supply always reacts slower than demand increases. "Price memory" in markets guarantees that the higher prices from inflation never recover. This hurts every common person, newcomer, national and native alike.
>>526974268He doesnt understand what he talks about or what the words mean. He just says them because it makes him feel smart and "better than" someone. This is an Inuit whale fishing forum, so im unsure why you would bring such topics to a place.
>>526972098Capital must be controlled by the People.
>>526972840105 is generous
>>526972098youre a jeet, you jeet
>>526974261Most union people were never educated in economics. They viewed the world with the same Mercantilist view that people before Adam Smith held. They thought if one person gained another lost, it was all zero sum.>>526974271I'm assuming all variables remain constant for my example. In your example, I'd wonder why that is the case and try to figure it out.
>>526972098I'm just a racist 2bh. Political ideology is mostly just gay retardation.
>>526974257TVs are cheap but houses and food are expensive. You can't afford to live but at least you get to watch netflix. No thanks, the system is broken and mass immigration is a large part of why.
>>526973812I'm sorry to tell you that while you're here larping as intelligent, I can make career making or breaking decisions for students at a top university. Your larp failed nigger. Next time try not to come off like a fucking retard.
>>526972098You're low-information and low-IQ so thinking is hard. I deal with absolute faggots like you almost every day. Have you considered MAID yet? Please ask your doctor about it nigger. Oh and fuck you.
>>526974409You don't know shit about economics. You twist logic in such a way to justify every neoliberal agenda item. Half the shit you believe isn't even fucking true
>>526972098>The problems today are due to unaffordable housing, immense wealth inequality, environmental concerns, geopolitical tensions.All but the geopolitical tensions are resolved nationally. In Finland we have the problems you mentioned, but not to a degree it bugs anyone.
>>526974391You're righ, but my money's on that it's a jeet. Have had the displeasure of having to debate these retarded fuckwads irl.
>>526974347Yeah it's almost like your right-wing Conservative ideas have fucked everything up... who would have thought. It's the economy, stupid.>>526974353If you disagree with what I've been saying here, you're just uneducated. It's not even up for debate.You lack education and literacy. You don't read.
>>526974322it is a shame that regions of the world like Africa and Eastern Europe can't develop because they don't have white people, if only they were white ethnostate like California, Texas, or Florida they would be some of the richest places on earth just like those unitedstatian states
>>526974409Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up. I'm always open to viewpoints different from my own and enjoy sharing ideas with a variety of different people. Great convo bro, thanks for stopping by. I'm kinda getting the ick from your posts so I'm out for now, see ya
Canadians are genuinely low IQ subhumans and I'm resentful I have been forced to waste so much time here.
>>526972807>Without immigration you don't have economic growth, you don't have wage growth, you have stagnation and wage decline.You say this but the exact opposite is what has happened irl. How does one achieve such levels of delusion?
>>526974120Most of the chuds are brown. Being a SJW is white ideology. Are you even watching the ICE protests? It's literally Latino CHUDS vs White basedboy redditors.
>>526974322Serious question, why are you here.You have no skills, you don't know science you don't know economics you don't know history.You're totally uneducated.>>526974495Your lack of education is nobody's fault but your own.>>526974491You're an uneducated hillybilly who can't even write.>>526974461So lets fix the problem instead of blame immigrants.
>>526974760Immigrants are a large part of the problem and I'm sorry but you aren't talking your way out of it.
>>526974577California, Texas and Florida contain urban cores.Urban cores draw in the most intelligent people on earth, and then put them to work. This generates enormous GDP. None of those people reproduce. They are eradicated from the gene pool. So we need to find another untapped country to kill off their talent in a similar fashion.Theoretically the output of these urban cores would flow out and lift the whole society. But they are surrounded by a horse of shitskins, clustering around, eho absorb all the output in the form of benefits and charity. All of that productive output wasted to feed the shitskin horde. All our most intelligent people eradicated forever to make this happen.
>>526974686>the opposite has happenedI agree.So lets solve the problem.Lets come up with solutions.Rather than make the lives of immigrants worse, lets make our lives better.>>526974540I'm actually from the very far Northern Tip so my complexion is whiter than many europeans. Most people assume I'm Northern Italian or Spanish.
The REAL whiteness test:If you love immigrants and love BBC you're white.If you are racist and don't like immigrants you're brown.Simple as
>>526972098Antiwhite, do you want a cookie?
>>526972098Literally the meme
>>526974407Fuck you bloody bitch saar.Fucking H1Bmerican fuck.I shit on your face, Micheal Jackson looking bitch. Fuck you saar, do not be the throwing the insult unless you are ready to do the unthinkable. To the fucking leftist scum.If you guys haven't figured it out yet, as scripture in Seej, by Guru Jampreet Mason says, the plan was always to let you guys chimp out on a massive scale so that normies would beg for, and want to implement anti-leftism as a political solution. You guys never understood what Yuri meant about lining up useful idiots, because it wasnt "approvedspeech" coming from your thought masters who decide, for you what to think,But its okay. In the age of information warfare, while all the Hollywood nazis were shouting in the streets and punching anti-nazis, you never asked what, or suspected Nationalists, or national socialists would exist, and be two different things.Concessions will be made to the right based on a few simple realities, those are heavy industry, white male labor, and white male skilled work, sadly our women folk dont feel "safe" and or want to have kids and this effecting the question of "if" we can win a war, and then whatever the sign tapping meme said, but you wont ever read it. Its not Approvedthink to you, so it exists in your mind a simple black square, because to read or even do anything except punch it, makes you just as bad as the person who read it, a sickness that needs to be quarantined.You cant read it, you couldn't even if you wanted too. Your incapable. It's Wrongthink and Wrongmeme.
>>526973462Houses, new builds are determined by developers and they are huge and unnecessary. Nobody is having kids. Nobody throttles the developers because the city county state are all gleeful for high ass property taxes.
>>526974760You keep calling me uneducated when my education is almost certainly better than yours. And anyway, the fact that you put so much stock in words on a page, and credentials, rather than ideas, says alot about the type of midwit you are.
>>526972098You’re right. You do not understand. Illegal aliens depress wages, which leads to many of the outcomes you’re rightfully concerned about. Canada, with both Vancouver and Toronto being examples of extreme shortages, are why open borders, mass migration, and globalism DO NOT work. I appreciate your attempt to understand, but you need to lurk more.
>>526974686Stereotypical canadian baby boomer logic. They’re all like this. Our youth employment rate is now at 13% thanks to importing millions of low iq military aged Indian men.
>>526972098you don't understand because you only look at the surface.you see the problem is unaffordable housing but you never stop to think why the houses are unaffordable.if you do you never get further than "the people selling them must be greedy"your existence is shallow, as is your ideology.this is why you lean so heavily on moralizing nonsense.you value "compassion" more than solving problems because you don't understand the problems.you see the world as having good people and bad people in it and you naively believe that making the world perfect is as simple as getting rid of all the bad people.
>>526974874We've had a relentless stream of all shades of nigger yet you want to solve the problems we face today with more niggers. You are irredeemably mental. This is what liberalmaxxing does to a faggot. You don't know up from down.
>>526974874Jeet alertJeet alertPosting in a jeet threatAI generated walls of text
>>526974760Must I remind you already?>How does deportationsAnon you're an illiterate nigger larping as educated. You have no real accomplishments. You are in charge of nothing. You are angry because you are stupid enough to fall for left wing internet propaganda. People like me take people who even slightly think you like you and throw their applications into the trash or have them removed from the university for any one of technical reasons. You will always lose. The only way out is suicide. Dont ever forget that.
>>526974969People aren't having kids because they can't afford townhouse rent.>>526974999You don't have ideas though, that's my point.You don't know anything about economics or demographics, as proven by your posts. It's endless stupidity.>>526975010You should read books, study more, stop binging memes and reels, start reading books and getting educated.You need immigration and globalism to skyrocket wages, otherwise you get an economic crash. Nationalism doesn't work.
>>526975032Let's see those elbows anon.Nobody wants to have to make a call to the redshirts about "un-canadian speech".Snitching and telling the police on other people isnt just a national pass time, but we have ranked snitching, and ranked competitive snitching too.
>>526975189I read plenty and am quite educated. You need not worry about that.
>>526975189Jeet thread Jeet threadThis is a fucking jeet posting AI generates replies
>>526975178>uses his position to exclude others.>uses his position to punish people based on their Approvedthink.Well done comrade, Glory over the anyone who thinks differently than you fascist scum.
Oh this is a bait thread isn't it.Gg leaf, gg indeed.
>>526974393That's what capitalism is.communism is where capital is controlled by the State (the Party and it's leader)
>>526975137>We've had a relentless stream of all shades of nigger yet you want to solve the problems we face today with more niggersYes... solve the problem instead of blame random black people who did nothing to you. Blaming black people for your nations problems is mental lunacy.>>526975178Meanwhile you can't even write, you're totally uneducated, you have never been to college.
>>526975329Yes, the left will starve and die.
>>526975137Actually i realized this is bait.Nobody actually thinks like this or says "Liberalmaxxing"
>>526972807>By literally any metric, and by any method of truth deduction (rational inquiry, evidence), immigration is good for the economy. Without immigration you don't have economic growth, you don't have wage growth, you have stagnation and wage decline.wrong!
>>526975371I'm counting all non Whites as niggers though
>>526974141that's because you are a moral human being with dignity, self-respect, and a sense of honor.you are exactly the kind of person the socialist elite are trying to exterminate.
>>526972098Didn’t read, kys faggot.
saars me great grand mum got starved by british sailors and me great grandpa had a cannon shot through his belly, now you have to let millions of poos invade your country every year
>>526975457Bait? You are not arguing in good faith, other than demean people here and accuse them of acting like uneducated country bumpkins. Fuck you, sir. Piss off. Faggot nigger.
>>526975371I've got dozens of published papers. Sorry you're retarded. Your larp failed.
>>526972098>ConservativesConservatives are just ideological liberals in slow motion, and stop pretending that you're a real socialist and not just liberalist yourself.
>>526972992>>Immigrants skyrocket wages via boosting GDP.when wages go up prices go up, so if what you way is true (and it's not) then immigrants cause inflation
>>526974749I never wrote chuds were white, you don't need to be white to be an autistic white supremacist, you also don't need to be a right wing conservative to be racist, most liberal whitoids radicalize the moment they can no longer get a white girlfriend>>526974808so the US economy depends on migrants to survive? why can't the few born and bred white americans, who although a very small minority are still being born, why can't white Americans do the job of those so called genius migrants you say the USA needs?it does not make sense to me, for me the reason the USA is collapsing is because the country is divided by the aristocracy and the peasants, the peasants have gotten all their rights taken from them by using racial politics, blacks ad browns vote for higher taxes without any real change done with those taxes while white americans vote for more corporate control just to dab on the non whites, in the end working class americans are left with nothing which is why born and bred americans can't reach the levels of geniuses as the foreigners who come from societies with a higher level of education than the USA because the government and corporations stole all your money and all your rights and use that money to invade countries and financiate wars instead, while americans loose acquisitive power and the dollar no longer has any value billionaires in america get only richer and richerthe problem is a global elite of olygarchs that want to enslave the working class, black or white
>>526975371Anon your using muh education as an argument.How much do you own in student loans, we need to know this before we take you seriously at it tells us if your parents cared about you enough to bother investing resources into, and from that we can understand why your lashing out at people you think are wrongthinkers or "approved groups" to target, exclude and be mean too.Also, your actions and exclusions of "designated groups", and the reality the heckin fascists would stand shoulder to shoulder with based blacks and based Mexicans, known to you people as "race traitors" just to put you in mass graves and walk back racism to 1960s segregation but "we cool now", is going to be a fucking hilarious reality call for you people.The time for your tempie tantrums was in the 90s, have fun with total information control, big brother and threat analysis and it building them a list of targets based on muh heckin cyber and muh heckin AI from Terminator.The fascists are worried about getting into positions of power, and trades and gaining skills so that we can "selectively" fix the shit you break.Power might not come on once it goes off unless you ask nicely and wear the red hat of hate.
>>526972992>Kuznet curveLong debunked.
>>526975189>People aren't having kids because they can't afford townhouse rent.Fucking liar. It's not because of economic reasons that people are not having kids, it's because of ideaological reasons. Do you seriously think that if people suddenly can afford rent, they would have babies? Holy shit you're retarded, it's unbelievable.People in the past we're poorer than we are right now and they still had tons of babies. By your logic, those same people wouldn't have babies. And people of our time, would have more babies than the people of older times.
>>526972098Yes, leftists are mentally deficient, it is known.
>>526973278>>Deficits increased, devaluing the dollar further>>Monetary expansion (money printing to fund said deficits)>>Zoning regulation increase that made it impossible to build new housing units>>Energy regulations that made it harder to expand our economy>>Labor regulations that capped graduation of new doctors, making medical costs rise that was footed by the tax payer (and money printer)which part is the capitalism
>>526975655You are 100% trolling.I have no obligation to respect people threatneing me, encouraging suicide, or threatening my family with rape.>>526975660Bait.>>526975674When i say wages I don't mean nominal wages I mean real wages.Prices decline relative to wages.
>>526975610Oh no saars that is horrible. I would like to do a land acknowledgement and do the saying of my ancestors Lord Timmy the Timmy Destroyer did the shooting of over 300 cannonballs into the other timmies in Europe because they kept speaking English backwards and calling it french saars.Because of this i will request you do the proving you are not a Frenchman and sing the oh canadas.
>>526975371>muh education>muh education>muh educationNigga are you projecting or something?
>>526975457Are you going to address the fact that mass migration has been going on for decades and the coat of living is totally unsustainable for the average working person? I didn't think so. Now go fuck off on the magic carpet you flew in on asspoo
>>526975906>Prices decline relative to wages.no they dont. your 'real wages' are mathematical trickery. labor is an input. price of inputs go up then so does the price of the output
>>526975817I'm lashing out at people threatening my children with rape and threatening my life, and encourging me to commit suicide.These are committing felonies against me right now.>>526975891>it's because of ideaological reasons.God you're so fucking stupid.Literally NOBODY is ideologically against having kids. Everybody wants kids.The problem is when you can't afford anything more than a microCondo, it's not the best environment to have kids.>People in the past we're poorer than we are right now and they still had tons of babies.The people had the same ideology as they do now. They just had more space.
>>526976020Please make love saar. Pretty British flag saar I want to make love to you.I love you British flag saar, I love you.Please god give me British flag saar I love you British flag saar.
>>526975905Big suburban house owners lobbying Doug Ford to block new developers from building new residential units.
>>526976055The point is that nominal wage decline (cheap farm workers, cheap uber drivers) and this lowers the price of those goods. It also boosts aggregate output so there's more total wealth.My wage can buy more food thanks to cheap migrant farm labor. My wage can buy more Ubers thanks to Indian Uber drivers.Immigrants increased the purchasing power of my wage.
>>526972807>says he is opposed to extremely capitalism >entire worldview boils down to making economic metrics go up Anon are you retarded? How do you reconcile this?
>>526976020>Are you going to address the fact that mass migration has been going on for decades and the coat of living is totally unsustainable for the average working person?That's the entire point of my thread.Why don't we eliminate the former rather than the latter?Why not instead of banning immigrants so we still have a shit economy... we fix the shit economy so we don't all hate immigrants???>>526976345Keynesian and/or Progressive ideals will actually make number go up more.Unfettered capitalism will collapse on itself and make number stagnate.Just like how federal R&D spending in the cold war greatly enhanced technology and productivity.
>>526976132You're obviously an uneducated nigger larping as intelligent. Everything you have said so far is absurd and uninformed. Yes, you are a failure. You have no credentials. You have no power. You are not fooling anyone. Noone likes you and the only way out of your derangement is suicide, I'm sorry to say.
>>526972098>The problems today are due to unaffordable housing, immense wealth inequality,Two top issues right off the bat can be solved by ending immigration.
>>526976132No one's threatening you broski its just the zany nature of 4chan - a culture of digital flighting developed among frens over a period of time. This may come off as uncouth to the untrained eye, and believe it or not that's part of the fun! Take a chill pill and talk some trash back a bit, the internet isn't serious business.
>>526976132>I'm lashing out at people threatening my children with rape and threatening my life, and encourging me to commit suicide.These are committing felonies against me right now.Anon, i told you in plain English what the plan was after outlining your incapable of understanding it because it isn't approvedthink.Your gonna end up in a mass grave, lol lmao, and it will be the people who you championed for who turn a blind eye and be thankful it isnt them,And those "straight white males" who get to put their boot on your neck and go back to being good dogs and playing nicely for the [Oligarchy], in exchange for playing nice over 30 years of being treated like a bad dog.If white people collectively as a group stopped working the entire nation would collapse, they are disenfranchised and need to be brought back to the table, or dog house so they dont bite all the children,Or go for Operation Hurricane Katrina II, on purpose....sorry but you and alot of your friends have to be put in mass graves for it to happen and to make up for how mean they treated us.You can still say sorry and repent, there is still time.
>>526976132You might be brain damaged lmao.>Literally NOBODY is ideologically against having kids. Everybody wants kids.THEN WHY ARE WE HAVING LESS KIDS DESPITE HAVING BETTER WORKING CONDITIONS AND BETTER LIVING CONDITIONS THAN IN THE PAST YOU STUPID FUCKING RETARD???? CAN'T YOU SEE YOU JUST CONTRADICT YOURSELF?>Ummm acshully, immigrants have contributed to better wages! We now have better living conditions than in the past.>But ummmmm, we're having less children than in the past because of ummmmmm, we can't afford rent ummmmm, despite people in the past having children with worse living conditions.
>>526976571flyting*
>>526972098you arent white pajeet, stop pretending
>>526976571Disagreeing with a leftist is the exact same thing as shooting them point blank, while shouting "Heil Donald Trump".You guys....dont know how they see people who disagree with them, or pay attention to how its okay to commit violence against people who disagree with them, or the normalization of that.Just think of all those betas having to watch the girls they orbit all proudly exclaim how Luigi handsome, Luigi best man. All men need to be Luigi and kill people who disagree with me.
>>526976503>you're obviously an uneducated>next word is "nigger"Only white trash use that word. >>526976555Immigration is the solution to those things.
>>526976669Comrade, you have having un-canadian thoughts.Please raise your elbows in the Up position and await a talking too from the Queens Lancers.Life will be better for you in the Nunavut Mining Oblast 7 anyways, you will have too many rocks to work with to have un-canadian thoughts.
>>526972807You offer up a glib summary of your unsubstantiated assertions, and yet you will never elaborate on, in any meaningful way, exactly how immigration benefits the economy or wages, you simply demand that the listener embrace your ideas without evidence while ignorantly dismissing the issues of the people you would seek to convince or debate with as unimportant. You come across as a grossly uneducated individual who has been spoonfed propaganda since birth. It is fruitless and uninteresting to engage with someone of such low intelligence.
>>526976669>THEN WHY ARE WE HAVING LESS KIDS DESPITE HAVING BETTER WORKING CONDITIONS AND BETTER LIVING CONDITIONS THAN IN THE PAST YOU STUPID FUCKING RETARD???? CAN'T YOU SEE YOU JUST CONTRADICT YOURSELF?Because nobody can afford RENT you FUCKING MORON.My parents had a house at my age and despite being far more educated and having a far more prestigious job, SHIT IS UNAFFORDABLE.How fucking stupid are you? Maybe education is illegal in your province too.
>>526976952The fact that you don't read books, the fact that all you can do is threaten, the fact that you lack basic education, is nobody's fault but your own.You are boring, you lack the ability to write properly. You are the epitome of what my dad would call "white trash".
>>526973892Why are the Quebec and maritime provinces retaining high white populations?How long until Canada collapses and will Alberta be the first to petition for statehood?
>>526976804The time for disagreeing and arguing with leftists ended years ago. Now we smile and nod and then promptly get them failed, fired, arrested, or killed.
>>526976905Everyone uses that word when talking about niggers or jeets, like you
>>526976952The reality is he just wants to be the one kicking you in the face with the boot.Once you understand that its okay to hurt people who disagree with them, and the normalization of that and celebration and worship of people who Crack off rounds at thought criminals and hurt fee fees people who make "too much money"The same people who cheer on killing Healthcare CEOs are the same people who hate the one person in this history of medicine to lower prices, Martin Shrekreli, or whatever the memes name was....he went to jail for offering to pay for a hair sample, but to even think of him in 2026...not many would.Because he has WRONGTHOUGHT and support orange man, any and all actions against him are justified.Just stop debating with them, talking to them and just laugh and take the Stienerpill, ICE will lead the counter attack and then everything will go back to being comfy, just like in Downfall.
>>526976494Even if the economy was booming and by miracle of liberal secular God it was because of immigrants the average person would still not like them because they're foreign. You've been brainwashed by gay retards into thinking people are just interchangeable widgets as opposed to distinct peoples with distinct cultures that have formed over hundreds if not thousands of years.
>>526977117Saar us indians love books, we are very high merited and educated people who comprehend the english language wellAs a fellow indian I will share some literature about a new topic that I just learned about todayhttps://www.cdc.gov/hygiene/about/index.html
>>526977006>How fucking stupid are you? Maybe education is illegal in your province too.Anon, Firstly nice, kek.Secondly its mean to call people newfielanders, they cant help it being bornt newfies.
>>526977006>Broooo!! It's because we can't afford rent bro!>Bro, trust me, bro, if I could afford rent, I will have children bro trust me bro!also>anyone who disagrees with me is an uneducated low iq dummy and im a smarty smarty man!I don't know about you but I have an IQ of 132 and I'm currently in university.Also it's pretty crazy how you can't even respond to my question. How the fuck did people in the past have WAY more children than we do, despite having worse living conditions. But no, you're too "educated" to answer such questions. So you'll just repeat the same fucking responde like an NPC.>Bro I cant afford rent bro! That's why im not having children bro!!
>>526977261Pretty much this."Hello 911, yeah id like to report a violent leftist scum who is openly supporting violence against members of the law enforcement community and their families"See, we do it in 4chan for fun and the glowies just laugh it off unless we threaten Chitwood, you guys burn shit and kill people cause people disagree with you, 30 cops got murdered over BLM 1.0 and you think they would help the left now?Lol, domestic terrorist.
>>526972098Answer me this.How has a huge influx of immigrants helped you?
>>526976301>The point is that nominal wage decline (cheap farm workers, cheap uber drivers) and this lowers the price of those goods. It also boosts aggregate output so there's more total wealth.that's the theory but the actual effect is that actual americans cant afford anything because your nominal wages have been depressed by immigrant scabs. not to mention that there is less work overall for actual americans to do because immigrant scabs have flooded the labor market. wage growth has only recently caught up with inflation in terms of the rate over time, but I'm pretty sure they haven't caught up to the actual cost of living. and we havent seen the lagging increase of prices driven by those wage increases either. we have yet either to address the fact that immigrants do shitty work
>>526977117You're coming off as booty blasted. Here, let's switch things up. Tell me something you like to do, something you're interested in outside of work. If you don't answer this I assume you're a shill of some kind.
>>526976197that's not capitalism that's regulatory capture
>>526977475Learn to be a better racist this is embarassing.>>526977666>I have an IQ of 132Then you'd already know why people aren't having kids.I already answered that question.>>526977700It has prevented the economy from imploding, so we have stagnating wages rather than full on Great Depression tier collapse.
>>526977117You are illiterate and uneducated. English is clearly not your native tongue as evidenced by your appalling sentence structure. It is clear to anyone who has suffered through your inane drivel that you have not touched a book in your entire life. You are not here for any genuine discourse, you are here because you were paid to be. Just another uneducated, truculent little weasel.
>>526977756Without immigrants, the money printing of the FED would have skyrocketed prices to the point where nobody can afford anything.It's thanks to immigrants that you have the ability to afford anything at all.>wage growth has only recently caught up with inflation in terms of the rate over time, but I'm pretty sure they haven't caught up to the actual cost of living. and we havent seen the lagging increase of prices driven by those wage increases either.That's my point, so lets solve that rather than hate on brown people and Asian people.
>>526976494>>Why not instead of banning immigrants so we still have a shit economy... we fix the shit economy so we don't all hate immigrants???the economy is only part of the reason these people need to leave. there are also the sever cultural differences, their indifference to the fate of this country, and the corruption that they import from their home countries.
>>526977772I play Cricket, I like movies like Tenet (just watched, really liked), I'm teaching myself French with Duolingo, I'm trying to get into skiing but it's very expensive. I also love drinking but have cut down as of the new year.
>>526972098>i don’t have the ability to understand othersWe know, this has been proven in multiple studies. You leftists are not smart enough to consider other views
>>526977946>No youI called you out because you can't even spit out a proper sentence. You type like complete garbage, your sentences are mangled like you're a grammatically illiterate teenager.You don't read, you're not educated, you're what we call white trash.Education must be illegal in America.
>>526972098>I truly cannot understand how Conservatives think no matter how much I try to read your literature or follow the ideology.We know. Every study done on the topic has proven that conservatives understand liberal perspectives and arguments, but the reverse is not the case. You political praxis is a limited hangout for the mentally deficient, the dupes and rubes, the pseudointellectuals and functional sociopaths. We are your betters. You are not capable of understanding what is good for you, and that is the primary difference between us. You yourself ironically accept that position already, with your slavish adoration of tyrannical government overreach, and your knee-jerk reaction to every problem being to empower strangers with greater authority over you in the hopes that they will solve those issues for you. You yourself admit that you don't know what is best for you, and every political position you take is an attempt to outsource those burdens onto the government. You reject us because you pathologically hate yourself and your own flesh and blood, and because you prefer simple lies that make you feel good to complex and difficult truths that make you feel bad. In better times, you could be manipulated, taught, or simply tolerated. However, these days you have been brainwashed into believing in "solutions" that are simply steps towards genociding your own people from the face of the earth. This isn't really your fault: you're stupid and easily swayed. But it does dramatically increase your odds of being killed in the near future, because it means you are likely to be talked into attacking your own countrymen with lethal force on behalf of international jewish billionaires that rape kids.You could have lived, and if you ever learn to mind your own business and ignore the television, your odds of living will go up significantly. But you will never understand us, who think the truth matters more than anything else.
>>526977999>That's my point, so lets solve that rather than hate on brown people and Asian people.read:>>526978076if you want non-americans to keep working for slave wages then let them do it in mexico.
>>526978098Cool. In my opinion most of that stuff's bullshit but it sounds like we have something in common - being a drunk shitposter! Haha
2 wrongs don't make a right. large problems don't make small problems acceptable.
>>526978240>international jewish billionnaire that rape kidsLearn to read history, you're a conspiracy loon>>526978248You guys claim to be against the Elite Aristocracy.And then your argument against immigrants is that they will work for reasonable wages, and not demand the wages of Aristocratic Elites.
>>526978262What do you do outside of work then?
>>526972807>muhh GDP line goes up everything is le goodEconomy is supposed to work for your benefit and not the other way around, Ranjeet
>>526977777Checking
>>526972098If immigrants are so great then why is EVERY fucking country they come from a shithole.Why have any immigrants if you have any unemployment?What happens when automation takes away a bunch of low skilled jobs and now you are stuck with a shit load of uneducated immigrants that are going to demand UBI, and who is going to pay for that?How do immigrants not take away from basic resources like medicare? Housing? And of course jobs?There is not ONE job a immigrant can do that a Canadian could not do, it's just a matter of how cheap they will do it for, and no matter what their standard of living is so low that anything is better than where they came from so they will ALWAYS lower wages for everyone.
>>526978098>im teaching myself french with duolingoT'es cave en esti. Tu vas jamais parler francais, imbécile.
>>526978461Then lets make it work for our benefit.
>>526978363You don’t seem like you even read the posts you reply to, you dipshit leftist. Why is it that your policies always hurt the people you claim to help?
>>526978536>If immigrants are so great then why is EVERY fucking country they come from a shithole.This works against your case.The countries with NEGATIVE immigrants are shitholesThe countries bringing in immigrants are relatively much richer.It seems like there's a direct correlation with how many immigrants a country takes in and how good that country is.>Why have any immigrants if you have any unemployment?To boost the economy which spurs job creation>What happens when automation takes away a bunch of low skilled jobs and now you Automation increases jobs. >How do immigrants not take away from basic resources like medicare? Housing? And of course jobs?They create those things>There is not ONE job a immigrant can do that a Canadian could not do, it'Doesn't matter, they will still increase GDP and thus wages.
>>526978544I'm doing this for fun, i really don't care if that's true.Hope you get a positive cancer diagnosis.>>526978611My policies saved the world.
>>526978611Kek it's amazing how retarded the average leftoid is. No matter how much you point out that mass migration hurts the working class to benefit the elites they never stop to rethink their position. True NPCs.
>>526972719people were protesting every week for over a year without any problem. the trucker convoy laid siege to the capital of our country for weeks before anything happened (while separately also blocking bridges to the US), and were heavily funded by foreigners (the US).
>>526978419I like cooking, vidya, smoking dope and drinking while shitposting on the internet, photography, I recently auditioned to be on masterchef canada but I screwed up some recipes and got shit canned in the third round, I build a miniature model village every Christmas amongst other thingsOh and fapping. I do that a lot
>>526978767>saved the worldMaybe the third world, but you and yours have thoroughly ruined the west and have been doing so for at least a century>I hope you get cancerThere’s that leftist compassion coming through. You’ll call yourself a good person, then hope cancer and suicide on those who know more than you
>>526978684Holy kek you are truly retarded.
>>526978876They do not possess the ability to resist what their betters tell them. That’s what makes them NPCs. Even this shitskin is a perfect example, to the point he openly wishes death on those who are smarter than it
>>526972098>My enemy isn't you guysCan't say the same for you, If you are still a Canadian liberal after Trudeau and COVID,, you are my enemy, you have proven yourself to be a danger to my personal well being and safety. I just wanted to be left alone, you made me into this.
>>526978767Oh yeah? Well I hope you forget your parachute next time you skydive.
>>526979009The retard doesn’t understand cause and effect, but what’s new?
>>526979021See?, I tried to tell it.It couldn't even internalize it because wrongthink
>>526978940Yeah that seems like a lot of bullshit to me. You say my stuff is bullshit i say yours is.>>526978946Your Conservative ideas have ruined the West.>you're not a good personWishing harm on people who are quite literally sadistic psychos who threaten to rape kids is a moral obligation.You're a sick evil fuck for defending these wannabe baby rapers.
>>526979065>>526979009Lol you're truly uneducated. Cold white trash.>>526979021Remember the Right used to dislike baby rapers.
>>526972098Also, why does Canada import oil? Something like 800 billion dollars worth in the last 20 years.https://www.statista.com/statistics/566837/crude-oil-imports-to-canada-by-region-of-origin/Why would a country that has all that oil need to import any? Because the Green scam has hamstrung your own country to the point they have to import oil. Why bring in Chinese EVs?How does relying on China to supply EVERYTHING for your green economy make any sense? If you do not control the means of production, then you are a slave to the country that does. You don't make batteries, you don't make the motors, don't make the windmills, don't make the solar panels. If you have the natural resources, oil, and you do not build gas cars then you are killing your own country.If your EPA or whatever Canada has is so restrictive that you can not process rare earths, because it's so toxic to do, which is why China is the leader they don't give a fuck about their environment then you can not ever compete with them in that aspect, so it makes sense to keep gas engines and control over your own means of production that you can actually use. The best you can hope for is assembled in Canada with parts from China. The push for green energy is a road to ruin and is only there to make China the king of the world.
>>526978767>My policies saved the world.Add mental illness to the retardation for this nigger
>>526979204China does care about their environment. https://e360.yale.edu/digest/china-renewable-photo-essay>Last year China installed more than half of all wind and solar added globally. In May alone, it added enough renewable energy to power Poland, installing solar panels at a rate of roughly 100 every second.
>>526979276>WW2 wasn't a world warIs education illegal in your province?
>>526978363>Learn to read history, you're a conspiracy loonThe Holocaust is literally impossible, it can be disproven with paper napkin math. The jews didn't claim to be the 12 tribes of Israel until the late 1860s, and nobody believed they were until the Scofield Reference Bible was published in 1909. You call me a loon, but you believe that the jews are God's chosen people and the master race. Your entire political ideology can be summarized as "God isn't real but He did create everyone equally."You are the person Norm McDonald was making fun of with his "funnily enough, it seems the good guys have won every war in history" skit. You aren't smart enough to realize it, just like how you aren't smart enough to know what is good for you. You can't even defend men having rights in the first place, you're ideologically incapable of it. Jews were expelled over a thousand times from 109 completely different nations throughout history, and you believe them when they say it's everybody else's fault, not them. You love science, until it tells you something you don't like, such as IQ being directly connected to genetics, then you scream and cry until the bad facts go away and you don't have to think about it anymore. You are an adult child throwing tantrums. You demand the Great Panopticon be constructed, because you're so insecure in yourself that you don't even think you can breathe without government assistance. You are a lesser tantruming at your betters, and on some level you know that, because every person here has demonstrated that they understand you, but you still don't understand us.You're a bug asking philosophers why they hate termites, then getting angry because you think termites deserve rights. You can't disprove a single thing I've said today. Read the Talmud.
>>526972992>Immigrants skyrocket wages via boosting GDP.Nope. I've seen this first hand working a shitty warehouse job in the late 90's as soon as migrant labour started to show up, the amount of work you were expected to do doubled and wages didn't. "gee times are hard we have a lot of competition now, we can only give you 2% increase, final offer" despite the fact that these targets were good enough for this company for 50 years and they were in a stable position in the market.Not only this the company started to not take on as many new employees and rely more and more on disposable agency workers.>It's basic supply and demand, without immigrants to supply their labor to build housing, we can't build any moreAgain no, we have only seen house prices and rents go up, white people can build their own houses and have been doing so for hundreds of years.
Economic zones like Canada are not serious countries and should not be listened to.
>>526979532Why are you listening to a Canadian. These people are genuine retards. I wasn't even born here let me tell you the dumbest people here are the white canadians. You know it's a white canadian if they start worshipping immigrants.
>>526979093You're off the rails man, totally crazy
>>526979445>The Holocaust is literally impossible, it can be disproven with paper napkin matGo throw your anti-semitic temper tantrum elsewhere you nutbar>>526979532>Nope. I've seen this first hand working a shitty warehouse job in the late 90's as soon as migrant labour started to show up, the amount of work you were expected to do doubled and wages didn't. "gee times are hard we have a lot of competition now, we can only give you 2% increase, final offer" despite the fact that these targets were good enough for this company for 50 years and they were in a stable position in the market.I've seen the opposite. In the 90s and 2000s jobs boomed at Silicon Valley. New immigrants started companies, new immigrants raised demand for products, new immigrants made processes cheaper which allowed more profitable ventures. Jobs were booming at Silicon Valley and people were being paid lots of money.>Again no, we have only seen house prices and rents go up, white people can build their own houses and have been doing so for hundreds of years.We've had immigrants coming in for 100s of years.
here's the thing maplefag. Raising taxes doesn't improve any of the things you complain about. Redistributing by putting high taxes on corporations don't make wages better for workers, more restrictions on 'capitalism' doesn't yield more or better jobs. You say you want things to be better, yet you worship big government interference which created the very problems of austerity that you complain about. If socialists truly wanted people to be free, happy and rich, they would be the strongest proponents of personal ownership of both capital, property and profit. Instead, socialists are not immune to normal human ambitions to pursue wealth, profit and power for themselves, and an honest assessment of every socialist in both democratic countries and communist dictatorships is that high taxes lead to more rapid corruption of the people in government. Tax rates are literally a measurement of how potently the population is forced into paying for their oppressors to be strong and oppressive.
>>526978684Do you own a business? Have you ever run one?I do and I have.I have to compete with those that hire illegals, and I can tell you that it keeps wages down. They don't pay them as much because they don't have to. Now, if you are bidding against a company that has lower overhead because they pay their workers less, then their price is lower.How do you beat a lower bid? I have to pay my guys more, because I refuse to hire people that can't understand the language, because they will fuck shit up. It's hard enough to get someone that can speak English to understand what I want and not fuck that up. I call it the Mexican Tax, because you will have to fix their fuck ups. Or you don't and just cover it up. Anyway. I know for a fact that illegals cause the wages to go down. Immigrants also. Case in point, Mexican comes in, learns the trade enough to get a truck and some tools, then hires all his damn illegal buddies straight from the border, and NO ONE can beat his price.Now how is that helping the wages?Automation. Will kill jobs beyond anything there can be. They used to hire a bunch of people to harvest crops, but now there are so many specialized machines that do that job. Picking potatoes, that shit used to be done by hand, now, put a attachment on the back of the tractor and harvest 100 times the potatos, with zero labor. Where did those jobs go? What jobs were created? Car manufacture brings in robots, where the hell are those jobs? And before you even say, oh they are building the robots, no, robots are building them. Repair them, yes a couple guys can repair them but they are not enough to cover the jobs lost. UBI is talked about why? Because jobs are not there to cover people who need jobs. Everyone wages have not kept up with inflation, have not kept pace with the world market. Have not kept up with jobs and manufacturing being sent to CHEAPER labor markets.
>>526979755Dude, all you do is deny to have a conversation with other people and call everyone but yourself uneducated.Namecalling is all you do in this thread.>uneducated>low iq>retard>antisemite>conspiracy loon>etcSo according to you, everyone is dumb except you.
>>526972098OK but we can still get rid of immigrants right?
>>526972098>Conservatives think no matter how much I try to read your literature or follow the ideologyConservatism isn't a some faggot political ideology, its a natural state of being. We conserve nature, art, we conserve our values, traditions, that's what we've been doing all of human history. It doesn't need complex framework like socualism or Marxism. It simply works, and has worked for thousands of years.
>>526980007Thanks to the buisnesses that hire illegals, they can sell their product at a lower price.If prices are lower... your wage is higher. Your wage can buy more things.I've seen illegal farm labor from the carribiean be as low as $4/hour, thanks to them, things are much cheaper on the market. My wage is higher thanks to their cheap labor.
>>526972992We don’t need a bunch of retarded niggers spics and jeets building infrastructure. That leads to those greedy brainless animals taking shortcuts and constructing unsafe infrastructure. You know? Stuff that is crucial to survival and must be correctly made. And I see a lot of “if they” in your argument. You’re assuming these “people” aren’t the worst of the worst, which they all are.
>>526979784All the liberal government had to do after 10 years of destroying the country was say "HURR DURR GLOMPF TOOK MY PENIS" and they all voted in a central banker globalist. That worked for the Bank of England and moved all his business ventures to New York State... Canadians are retarded.
>>526979368They don't care, building that shit is toxic, that is why western countries don't do it. China doesn't have oil and coal resources, not enough for their power demands, so of course they will use what they do have. Lax EPA regulations, and cheap labor. That is why they have that stuff. No other reason.
>>526980050Milton Friedman is intelligent.https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTNm2U1D-bI/
co2 is an insignificant trace gas, and the composition and heat index of air with 100, 200, 400 or even 3000 parts per million of co2 is indistinguishable. There is not even a plausible hypothesis for how increased co2 can warm the planet. There's only a proven correlation showing that higher temperatures create higher co2, and it's easily explained by higher plant activity further from the equator during higher solar exposure. Only the sun regulates the temperature on earth. Got that maple fag?
>>526980155How drunk are you on a scale of 1-10?Admit you're fucked up right now
>>526980155>Thanks to the buisnesses that hire illegals, they can sell their product at a lower priceWhy dont you just reinstate actually slavery then. I mean we only outlawed it 100 something years ago, democrats still haven't found a way to function without someone else doing their dirty work for me. This is literally nothing new.
>>526972098>we need socialism No you need us to liberate your silly little country from the commie brainwashing you've underwent.Dont worry, the adults are back in charge
>>526979093>your views ruined everything My views haven’t been the norm for at least 70 years >schizophrenic leftoid rambling about the things his own side supports This is why you aren’t capable of debate, you are far too emotional
>>526980159Yeah, I didn't vote at all. But watching it unfold in my own country was eye opening. NPC theory truly is real. Explains perfectly why OP always has a predetermined answer for everything and cannot offer a nuanced answer. Like how he can't explain why we're having less children than people from the past, despite having better working and living conditions as them. All he does is just repeat his one line of "we can't afford rent, bro!" like a true NPC.
>>526972098I wish you'd die of brain cancer.
>>526980283mexicans drive down wages but the budget will balance itself if millions of indians are allowed every year, just look at canada as an example of this working out great
>>526974021>Except who benefits from big corporations? It's not billionnaires, billionnaires already have their billions. It benefits the non-billionnaires, the workers, the employees, the investors and stockholders.Congratulations, you now understand the American Conservative perspective. Everything we do is in service to big corporations. Identity politics exists entirely in service of keeping the working class divided so it doesn't unionize to a larger extent than it already has and take power away from said corporations. As an added bonus, it sometimes leads to niche markets like pride or MAGA whose identities are sustained as consumption, but that's secondary to keeping the proles in line because the world economy is built off the back of exploitation.I'm sure Canada has laws against replacing workers with scabs. Here, you can bring over an immigrant to replace anyone and if they complain about it you can cancel them for hate speech.
>>526980155You are avoiding the question.If they are driving down wages, then they drive down ALL wages of people working.If you can't charge as much for your work then your wages are LOWER. How the hell are they higher when you can't charge as much to be competitive? Once again, that labor is going away. How many of those people have been replaced with automation? Those jobs do not exist, where did those people go? They still need jobs. But now they are replaced by John Deere. So now you have those people who are not smart, have no skills and now unemployed, who pays for them now?
>>526979194We still hate child rapists. What are you talking about?
>>526980369Paying white people more than literal Kings/Emperors for work that migrants will do is closer to slavery than anything.You can't have some people paid more than Alexander the Great without others getting shafted.
>>526980195uhhh, lots of western countries are building wind and solar (even the US, just not as fast, picrel) which are much cleaner than coal.
>>526980276nice b8 m8
>>526972098I cannot wait until America invades your country you fucking faggot. fuck canada
>>526979755> In the 90s and 2000s jobs boomed at Silicon Valley. New immigrants started companies.I'm talking about working a genuine day to day boots on the ground job, not some rich investor tech bubble. No actual working-class person benefitted from that and all the actual job creation was in some far-eastern sweatshop making gadget slop for affluent suburbanites.>We've had immigrants coming in for 100s of years.No you're conflating low numbers of skilled immigrant from mainly first world countries with hundreds of thousands of unskilled illegal migrants from 3rd world hellscapes.Not the same.
>>526972098It's easy to understand, sadly.Your American "conservative" (actually not conserving much, more transformative than they let on) is deeply anxious about their status in the world, socially and economically. They may or may not be rich themselves, but they're usually part of some group which houses many objectively successful people (whites, men, jews, etc etc), whose accomplishments they enjoy by proxy. They struggle tor elate to people who are different than them, in fact often consider empathy a weakness of a flaw, and so it is easy to convince them that:>in-group success, even if they don't achieve it, is valuable to them>out-group success is a danger to thatand they are very susceptible to the follow-up argument that>the reason they are not more successful is because some of that success has been stolen by outgroupsThey generally have an antipathy (or at least a wariness) to different or unfamiliar people and things. This is a common aspect of a small-c conservative mindset. They believe this is natural and universal, because they universalize their own intuitions and project them onto everyone else (see: struggling with empathy). It then seems absurd and unnatural to them that other people see immigrants or trannies or whatever-the-fuck and don't feel the same uneasiness or revulsion that they do. That others don't seem to agree seems... Odd. "Are these people faking tolerance? Are they stupid, sick?"Comfortable with hierarchies, they look to their leaders -- successful members of the in-group who seem to share their intuition. They are told it is a conspiracy by those they already were uncomfortable with, brainwashing others with a "mind virus", and are told that by joining together with a community of like-minded individuals from their ingroup and following their leader, they can set right what has gone wrong, remove the source of their discomfort, and assure personal and group success.
>>526980690Admit you're drunk af
>>526980523Ah yes restricting immigration works GREATNorth Korea is apparently doing amazing!
>>526980690Are you drunk or high right now? Or just low IQ? Or all of the above?
>>526980814Agree with anon
>>526972098>We need socialismYou faggots can do whatever you like up there. I won't hold you back.>I say this as a member of the Canadian working class.Get off of 4chan, Sukhdeep and bring me my Tim Hortons.
>>526980157Is education illegal in your State?
>>526980083>everything has stayed the same for thousands of years because we are preserving an idealized natural state that resembles my nostalgic state of comfort and requires no change or adaptationHey, look, I was right.
>>526980690You sound like a typical confederate apologist. The Republicans won the first Civil War over a states rights to import illegal laborers. There's no reason to think they would lose when Democrats are even less popular and less armed now than they were then.
>>526972098>It is not due to illegalsDoes your stupid nigger retard ass understand the concept of "supply and demand" ????When Consuela illegally comes to the U.S. and shits out an anchor baby—thanks to the kiked system it is now a legal citizen.Multiple that by TENS OF MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS and we now have tens of millions of "legal" US citizens (the spic offspring of the illegals).Those same beaners have even more kids as the decades pass.Flash forward to 2026 and the infestation of illegals and their offsrping is upwards of 50,000,000.Do you have ANY IDEA of how much pressure that puts on the housing and job market? When all those legal spics who shouldn't be here (but are due to their parents illegally coming here and the kikes who created the 1965 immigration act that allowed for birthright citizenship) but now are—are in major part causing rent to skyrocket immensly. And image a few thousand extra mexicans (who shouldn't be here but are because they are anchor babies) trying to interview for a job you are. Now imagine the increased traffic and congestion on your way to work.The illegal alien infestation is a PLAGUE UPON SOCIETY AND A NET DETRIMENT TO QUALITY OF LIFE AND AFFORDABILITY FOR US LEGAL CITIZENS WHOSE PARENTS AREN'T CRIMINAL ALIENS.
>>526980905Are you going to refute me and offer a counter argument to my points or just be an ignorant kike?
>>526980947You sound like one of the British Loyalists.>"These factory workers have the right to paid more than King George III because it's their birthright, to be damned with democracy, be damned with everyone else!"
>>526980821How dare they not let millions of superior indians like us into their country
>>526980731Now post the one that goes over actually relevant timescales(you wont)
>>526972098I knew this would be a Canadian poster.
>>526972098>I truly cannot understand how Conservatives think no matter how much I tryThat's because you cannot understand thought that isn't passed through a filter of "will my social circle accept this idea?" You're weak in mind and spirit.
>>526980954why doesn't trump do something about the industries that hire illegals. why hasn't any president done anything about those industries for decades and decades?
>>526972098>cannot understand how Conservatives think Numbers, science, and economics.>unaffordable housingLeftists have never solved this. The right wing solution is to deport 20 million illegals and reduce regulations. Housing costs are mostly driven by government regulations. Some of those regulations need to go.>immense wealth inequalityLeftists throw money at rich people. The right wing approach is to let them risk their own money and not government money. You can't tax wealth.>environmental concernsTariff anything from China due to the pollution that China creates. Most environmental concerns here are overblown. I'm worried about superfund sites and forever chemicals used as fertilizer on our fields.>geopolitical tensions.Leftists have never understood international politics. That's why Europeans perpetual creates the conditions for large wars in Europe.
>>526980905>ctrl + f>"is education illegal">already 3 instances
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>>526980916Say what you will, conservatism has been tried and tested. Whatever you suggest is basically you trying to reinvent society, you'll never get what you want unlike conservatives who have what they want and merely have to keep it. Thats why conservatives are overall happier, more sex, more babies, they're not waiting for society to collapse like a leftist is so they can "have it their way". Conservatism is simply the way and always has been.
>>526972098Our country is being invaded by Indians. You need to watch this if you really dont get it. https://www.youtube.com/live/fCcNE-gg6Bc?si=mottMQrDxKGCQWbY
>>526972840>>526974401105 is the most likely number, actually. It's high enough to do extremely well in school and set unrealistic expectations for one's own ability. It grows the ego at a pace that exceeds actual mental ability. Then these people go through life thinking they are intelligent, never knowing that actual intelligence is just out of their reach. These people are called midwits and they're responsible for a lot of society's woes.
>>526981262Buzzwords this shitskin says because it has no logical argument
>>526981372>tracking linkNIGGER
I don’t even have to read this thread to know this dumb leaf is from Ontario
>>526980905You mistake education for indoctrination. The world isnt that complicated. You will know the tree by the fruit. All the browns produce criminal garbage civilizations throughout history, therefore they are criminal garbage.You're a midwit who wants to pretend you int maxed, we're humble wis maxers.
>>526980698>which are much cleaner than coal.It's not baseline energy production. Either massive batteries are needed or we need to change the laws of physics. Coal is baseline power and logistically works far better than clean energy. We hate the laws of physics as well but we respect them.
>>526980698https://www.sunhub.com/blog/where-do-u-s-solar-panels-come-from-a-look-at-2024-imports/I didn't say they didn't have them I said they don't make them. ALL that shit is imported. The United States primarily imports solar panels from countries like Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, and Cambodia. In 2024, the U.S. imported approximately 54.3 GW of finished solar panels, which exceeded the estimated installation demand of 40 GW. Despite the potential for domestic manufacturing, many developers continue to rely on imports due to factors such as cost competitiveness and tariff uncertainties.Have to admit I didn't know they came from there, I figured it was from China, but once again, they can't be made in the US because of EPA and labor. Of course there are some, but the majority come from over seas. Solar is just energy, so it makes more sense to use nuclear and coal, cost wise, since that is what we have.
>>526972098>you guysShalom Rabbi. There is no monolithic pov on /pol/. I'm a leftist. /pol/ is correct about many things.
>>526981416Its YouTube schizo
>>526981262Also finally, a based leaf
>>526981262Kek I had to check. That's absurd, anon. OP is such a clown.
>>526981473Leftists have no place here faggot. Why are you using "Rabbi" as a pejorative? Jews are behind leftism in the west, its their anti White battering ram.
>>526981149>why doesn't trump do something about the industries that hire illegals. why hasn't any president done anything about those industries for decades and decades?Because Trump is controlled opposition. He's using these ICE raids as nothing more than a placator for the dumb-fuck white trash MAGA retards who are still dumb enough to think "The good guys are now in control."Trump bats for the same team as Obama and Pedo Joe Biden. They're ALL co-conspirators. The US government is nothing more than a rotten-to-the-fucking-core uni-party that has repeatedly broke the social contract and weaponized their secret police against peaceful dissenting citizens (both left and right). They've also maliciously and intentionally divided the country left vs. right.Because ALL presidents are nothing more than puppets—and a dark and evil hidden hand is up their asshole telling them what to do and say. They ALL belong to the same globalist party. We're just NOW putting the final pieces of the puzzle together as we have clearly seen Trump is nothing more than controlled opposition (and most likely he's blackmailed or bribed by Israel).
>>526981394Stop calling me a fucking shitskin.
>>526981455I know the difference, which is why I'm a fan of nuclear. >>526981465there are solar panels manufactured in the US though (Picrel)
>>526981752This poojeet is mad
>>526981451>You will know the tree by the fruit. 1000x this. Why do you think Trump won after it seem the left had total control? Their own policies flooded every western country with 3rd worlders and their countries are still collapsing. The people gave the left power and they squandered it in a way people will never forget. Trump has had power for a year and has reversed the tranny agenda, imagine what the left could do if their plans had merit.
>>526981494thanks anon
>>526980902>You faggots can do whatever you like up there. I won't hold you back.Your president is trying to prevent us from doing what we want.
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>>526981782>why I'm a fan of nuclear.Absolutely. The growth of a country is dependent on predictable affordable power. Nuclear power is the best option by far. What the leftists did to nuclear power should be criminal.
>>526981782Yes I said there are, but they are not cheap, they are subsidized by the government because they are so damn expensive. I've seen at least 2 solar companies go out of business here locally. I was thinking about it, but it's stupid expensive, takes forever to recoup, and you still have to pay for power on the days it is not producing enough. In my case power costs are not so bad, and solar would never pay for itself. Also the tax credits are expiring I think last year? Something like that. Solar is government subsidized, if it wasn't no one would have it at all.
>>526972992>It's basic supply and demand, without immigrants to supply their labor to build housing, we can't build any moreMaybe I don't want an underclass of immigrant slaves that we import endlessly to build more and more infrastructure to support until we collapse under our own weight.That's just me though haha
>>526976494>Keynesian and/or Progressive ideals will actually make number go up more.I don't care, lines are up enough. We need to stabilize and secure what we have
>>526981356Conservationism has meant a million different things depending on the era, social strata, region, etcetera. The "conservativism" you guys are practicing down there right now involves giant fuckoff AI data-centres, Palantir surveillance, and all of it funded by huge amounts of government debt. It involves shattering the largely American-made world order of the last several decades. It's led by the first man to ever become president without any prior political or military experience, with a VP who works for a rich gay Catholic and is married to a Hindu. What are you even conserving???
>>526972323> illegals and immigrants in general are a major reason the wages are stagnant and everything is so expensiveWho is bringing them in? Unfettered capitalists
>>526972098>My enemy isn't you guys, it's unfettered capitalism.No your enemy is the sin of greed you're just too far up your own ass to realize it.>We need socialism, or at the very least Progressive solutions to solve our problemsYour progressive bullshit is exactly what led us to this point. Your idealistic retardation about humans being inherently good is utterly self destructive as is your complete and utter denial of natural laws which we humans are still bound to.Your arrogance created this mess and now all are paying for it.
>>526981946>>526981959>>526982012>>526982248Stop calling me a FUCKING SHITSKINYou make me a worse immigrant too because when you do i drink and that makes me more degenerate.
>>526972098Your opinion doesn't matter. More of your kind will die pointless deaths defending your preferred outgroups. I will laugh as your follies are recorded for my personal amusement.
>>526980731fake graph is fake and gay. like you. the numbers are clearly fake and manipulated, see the email leak by wikileaks, those scientists edited the raw numbers to make their output match their model. now you can't publish anything that doesn't match the model without getting disbarred from academia.
>>526982534Whys your president so keen n the Arctic, again?
>>526972098>>526979755Believes in the Holocauster. Also believes he isn't retarded. GTFO jeet you don't understand shit.Fucking golem!
>>526982478Stop blaming your behaviour on other people. You can never control other people, only yourself. If you don't want to be called a shitskin don't act like one and call out other shitskins who do, don't use it as an excuse to act poorly.
>>526981752>ctrl + f>"BHtj5RJt">Actually look up the number of times this pajeet has made remarks of "uneducated" peasants>22>ctrl + f>"uneducated">21 instances
>>526982534>>526982589
>>526982478wait no fucking way this guy was a jeet the whole time
>>526982699The most annoying part about midwits is that they could be happy and help the world by just not meddling and living the average lives they're actually cut out for. But their delusions of grandeur implanted by the academic system fuck it up for all of us.
>>526972098Here’s the simple answer. You’re a pussy. You were raised soft. Simple as.
>>526982859I rest my case
>>526972840> The problems today are due to unaffordable housing, immense wealth inequality, environmental concerns, geopolitical tensionsso ALL of this wouldn't be as much of a problem without poor venezuelans and somalians packing chicken and nursing sick people? how does that work I dont get it eiither, do you want to do these sh1t jobs at garbage wages?the problem is also overpopulation, it is disguised as massive immigration. fewer people, fewer problems. we can solve it by solving the corpo problem behind itsolution: guillotines. at least fear of guillotines to make them pay us higher
>>526972098As an American, I appreciate your effort, but you should seriously save your breath on these mongrels.You need to prepare for the day blue states call upon you and other nations to help us put these backwoods retards in their place once and for all.
>>526982756clearly not a real graph, look at it. just look at it. it's full of fake colors and stupid lines. just stupid and fake. and gay. like you. gay. global waarmin ain't happening for any man made reason. a single solar flare puts more heat on the earth than all the socialists combined, and a single volcano put more than all humans ever, combined. human contribution to co2 is impossible to have an effect on the weather. co2 is a trace gas, less than 0.04% in highly dense areas, 0.02% outside urban areas. But even by the side of the road behind busses and cars, the concentration never exceed 0.04%.
>>526983074Nigger hands typed this post
>>526982257>What are you even conserving???Our genitals and our children's genitals, tranny.
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>>526979755>Go throw your anti-semitic temper tantrum elsewhere you nutbarWorld War II started on September 1, 1939, and ended on September 2, 1945. There are 2,194 days between these two events. There are 24 hours in a day, so assuming maximum possible time, we have 2,194x24 hours to work with, or 52,656 hours. With MODERN crematories, it takes 3 hours to fully cremate a body. The machines CANNOT run non-stop, they have to be broken down and repaired, but for the sake of making the math simpler, let's assume the Germans had magic ovens in the 1940s that could match modern machines but never needed maintenance or repairs. We'll also assume these magic incinerators required no fuel to operate, because there was a mass fuel shortage in Europe during the war, there was no coal to be spared, and no forests were ever clear cut to provide the millions of tons of wood that would be necessary to cremate the bodies. So, magic ovens. If a jews were killed and cremated non-stop at the maximum possible efficiency and speed, it would take 3 hours times six million bodies to go through them all. That's 18,000,000 hours of necessary cremation time. Eighteen million is a notably larger number than 52,656. And this is under impossibly optimal conditions, with magic ovens that need no fuel or infrastructure to support them. It would have taken the Germans decades to kill 6 million jews. 6 million jews didn't even EXIST IN THE AREAS THEY CONTROLLED. The World Jewish Almanac, which are the self-reported census numbers by jewish communities worldwide, doesn't even record a loss of six million lives during the wartime: jewish population numbers actually rose.Nothing will ever be funnier than watching a classic liberal who claims to hate the rich break out in hives and screaming fits whenever you name the race disproportionally represented in the wealthy class by 10,000%.The Holocaust did not happen. It was never mentioned until Elie Wiesel's 'Night' was published in 1960.
>>526983074>Hah, just you wait chuddies! We're going to side with Canada and we're going to BTFO those bigots once and for all!
>>526972098We arent the ones talking about trans people, you are. And we arent the ones who let 200,000 unvetted illegal immigrants PER month. These people coalesced into places like minneapolis and overwhelmed the system with fraud. So yes, illegal immigration is a problem.You are busy making up wedge issues that we dont even worry about so you then escalate it into trans story hours for kids in school libraries and when we try to establish boundaries of normalcy you call us bigots. Just shut the fuck up. You believed russiagate because you're a fucking fool. You got vaxed and boosted because you're a fucking fool. You lecture us about what you imagine we believe because you're a fucking fool.If you had any idea how much we have come to hate you, there would be fear deep in your bones.
>>526972098>canadian liberal
>>526983144it was designed by someone who is colour blind. he chooses colours that are legible to colour blind people. the rest of your post is already refuted by things I've posted above.
>>526972323the very system compels everyone to take the easiest and fastest way to gain and/or keep more capital. but the few billionaires do share and support your point of view.
>>526983289From the German perspective, what possible reason or justification would they have for cremating millions of people? They had mass graves where they executed prisoners by the thousands. 4,000 on a Sunday just outside Dachau, the mass graves was known to everyone locally, the SS didn't deny the executions or the existence of the mass graves at all. At Treblinka and some 3-4 other railroad stations they also executed a lot of people with bullets, into pits that they filled in with a tractor. Again, no attempt to hide or turn bodies into ash. There's simply no logistical or practical reason the Germans would cremate prisoners selected for execution. In the camps the crematoria would only serve to rid the camp of regular deaths and giving a dignified treatment of the corpses, prevent smell and disease. It would be no different than a morgue or a hospital basement facility processing dead bodies in a dignified manner. Which matches the design of the 'crematoria' buildings in the labor camps - they are funeral homes for prisoners. mystery solved, now lick my anus.
>>526973595this is so, so dumb. Causation isn't correlation, this is basic shit. Nigeria isn't poor because they have o immigrants, they have no immigrants because they are poorget a brain
>>526983926That's literally the arguments of these idiots.>wages declined in the last 40 years>We've had immigrants in the past 40 yeras>Therefore it must be because of immigrants
>>526982478Is it me or did this ugly pajeet leave the thread the second he got exposed as a jeet?
>>526973617brilliant points. it's also the wages tho. techncially it's the ratio of costs to wages. if costs remain low and keep going up, but salaries remains the same for 10 years that's bad. The companies and corpos do EVERYTHING for profit tho which is why the Left is forever screaming about unfettered capitalism. These fucks literally do think all of their life is about making money, equity, and profit at any cost- not creating anything, not building anything, just pure dumb fucking money growing and growing and growing forever growth. it won't stop until we stop it. i loathe those cunts so much it hurts
>>526972807>good for the economyGive me one good reason why I should give a flying fuck about the economy. Or better yet, explain to me why, if we should usher immigrants in because we're all one big happy family, why do we have global economic competition? The problem is the leftist script is an insane mess. You don't want tyranny or eradication of minorities? That's what globohomo will do. You think immigration doesn't affect the average person? Well it fucking does when you have niggers molesting white kids, murdering natives and just generally speaking umbongo and not fitting in. Only a massively pozzed stupid niggerloving Canuk would ever think there's nothing wrong. Kys.
>>526978363>>And then your argument against immigrants is that they will work for reasonable wages, and not demand the wages of Aristocratic Elites.first, no I don't. I'm fine with elites if they are the right people. second, I'm against immigrant SCAB labor. Scabs should be beaten.
>>526983677its not a "point of view" it's objective fact
>>526984259He checked out
>>526973481 Yes but just follow that path up to the next step, WHO is letting so many immigrants in? Clue: same people responsible for the healthcare insurance industry, raising costs, denying us universal healthcare and using AI to deny your claims, using Palantir to monitor us and build biometric databases on all of us, left and right.don't argue with the neolibs about Muh immigration Good, they didn't understand the assignment. Their puny brains can't handle racism is Bad + Immigration is Bad, it implodes their cortexMass Immigration Bad =/= Racism GoodVenn diagram not a circle