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I just tried to explain supply and demand to a normie and made it so easy to understand. I told him something like "You know supply and demand of rental homes are now the same because there's neither waitlists if you have the money to pay, nor (obviously) landlords who can't find a tenant. Now imagine that 500000 rental homes in a city are destroyed and those tenants have to find a new one. They still have the money to pay, so they could get on an ads page and quickly find new ones, so everything would be just as before? Or do you think there would be other consequences?".

Well, he wouldn't fucking get it. In my mind this was a foolproof way to make normies understand how supply and demand works. I was unaware of just how stupid they are.

I hate them more and more. I fucking loathe them. I'm done caring about politics because I can't stand that there's no progress ever because it would rely on a bunch of fucking retards understanding complicated topics. The average voter is probably even stupider than that guy, because that's someone who went to uni. I will never vote in elections because its insulting to have my opinion count as just one vote, the same as a mass of retards.

I am coming off my psychiatric meds because I hate that they numbed me (made a thread recently about how I had quit and was more unhinged, but I hadn't fully quit, I was just on a low dose tapering off, I fully quit today), and can't fucking stand these idiots. They are so fucking retarded. I hate it when solving a problem relies on most people noticing, because they are fucking cattle.
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This is why I verbally abuse people who don't get things on 4chan. I can because it's on the internet, and at least I can vent the frustration when someone is dense as fuck.

By the way, people who don't understand how anything works and then go and vote for the politician with the best smile or the one the media says is better, deserve to be poor, to work all day to still live like chumps, and to suffer.
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>>527579242
Why are you on psych meds?
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>>527579548
Because my childhood was awful, I got bullied at home by awful parents, and then bullied in school by normies, and we were also poor and I am/was ugly too, jfl.

Now my life is much better, I don't talk to my family, and make more money than most people without even having to be a wagie. And grew a beard to hide the fact I have no chin so my face looks normal. That's how I solve problems when they are up to me. But when they are up to most people it's just endless frustration.
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>>527579548
I am unhinged as fuck and used to be much worse. But I dont want to be soulless like on the meds so I am not taking them anymore.
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>>527579777
Be careful when withdrawing from psych meds. Shit can really make your brain go haywire. Especially SSRI's
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>>527579998
its ok bro i've been tapering off for a while, and on a very low dose for months now, i dont think there will be a big differnce
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Even the LA times reported on this. Get ready for Spains housing to skyrocket!
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>>527579242
Seems like skill issue on your part, understanding something means you have to put in time and effort to extract and apply information putting it into practice. I don't understand much in this world and neither have any incentive to do so which would further wear out my hardware without any significant gain be it material or spiritual.
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>>527580142
if only we could build homes jfl
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>>527579242
i didn't read any of that shit becasue it sounds like faggy and retarded
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>>527579664
>make more money than most people without even having to be a wagie.
are you still dealing drugs to finance your heroin addiction?
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>>527579242
>dumbass foreigner
your pic is very relevant
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>>527580982
normie retards i am glad i am on 4chan so i dont care if i am insufferable and can just verbally abuse you, you average IQ useless retards
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>>527579242
Libshits complain about the cost of living and refuse to see mass-immigration is directly responsible. They want to whine about "the capitalists". No, it's supply in demand in action.

You want a house. You can't get a house. Housing prices are too high. Why?

Because the millions pouring in have to GO somewhere. And that somewhere is all available housing. What happens to homes on the market then? Their price skyrockets, making it unaffordable to you. Why did inflation go up? Because the government has to borrow and print money to pay for food, medical, housing, education, and a hundred other things for the new arrivals, none of whom have any money and will generate no money. So now the cost of things goes up too.

This is basic economics, and libshits are incapable of understanding it. If they had brains instead of woman-like emotions, they would be the most violently anti-mass immigration force out there. But alas, they're retarded.
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>>527579242
Sound like a retard proof explanation desu
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>>527581168
I think the "immigration makes housing expensive" argument does not make logical sense either. Because according to that logic then high birth rates would be bad too, and that's obviously not the case.

The fact is, there used to be no homes anywhere, and all of the ones on the market came to be because people built them. And the solution to there not being enough is to build more.

The government is not allowing people to build more because they're evil and corrupt.
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>>527579242
Socialism isn't just a retarded idea, it's a full-blown brain disease where the victim outright rejects any possibility that society is in any way fair, and interprets all economic interactions as oppressed vs oppressor.

Your argument did not work because your opponent didn't WANT to believe it.
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>>527579242
It’s 4:12am and I just woke up to take a piss. I also did a bump of cocaine. AMA (ask me anything)
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>>527581462
The fact that you’re even having those thoughts is antisemitic and you need to go into reeducation
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>>527579242
most philosophers have some statement along the lines of pic related in their works.
you just have to accept that there are some people who are not receptive to arguments, no matter how well you can prove them, either because they argue in bad faith or because they are mentally not capable of following a logical argument.
there is nothing you can do to change that and you're best off to just stop talking to them because it is nothing but a waste of time.
if something is that persistently stated again and again throughout all of human history by people who spent their whole lives thinking about shit like this, there's probably some truth to it.
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>>527581647
Fuck not being antisemitic, I've already been on hardcore psychiatric meds for years and numb as fuck, from now on I will not take them and be as antisemitic as possible
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>>527581462
>Because according to that logic then high birth rates would be bad too, and that's obviously not the case.

High birth rates have at least an 18 year latency before they affect the housing market, and in the case of a supply shortage causing high prices, those members of the population will continue to live with their parents longer (which is exactly what we're seeing now).

Immigration on the other hand takes immediate effect.
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>>527581743
Based
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>>527581710
High IQ

That's what I did with this guy. This was all in person so I couldn't just say "you are useless, you can't even process what I'm saying, retard" etc like on 4chan, so just gave up.
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>>527579242
Look uh this friend of yours, he is probably thinking about mass immigration points.

It's not that he's stupid and doesn't get it, it's that he's trying to kill you with mass migration and doesn't want you to know he understands what he's doing
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>>527581818
That's fair but you can still see how blaming an increase in population for the shortage doesn't make logical sense.

There could also be a shortage of other things such as food, but those just quietly increased production because the government is not trying to "help" with that.
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>>527582058
Do you fucking work at a bank by chance
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>>527579242
You sound like you got the covid vaccine and wore the mask
Which makes you a normie
Since 2020 ive been living in the bush and showering from a bucket
You are weak and pathetic
Youre just another urbanite typing entire impotent and flaccid paragraphs of estrogenic bullshit
You'll never be a real man
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>>527579242
i understand the frustration of trying to explain basic tenets and precepts to the non-initiated or a member of the ignorant masses but letting it rile you up this much at some point becomes a (You) problem and you have to step back and realise some people will never be ready to understand even something so basic, and to leave them to their devices. it's the pareto distribution, most people are carried by the upper percentile. it's always going to be this way. this is why we need benevolent dictators and not mob rule or the illusion of such.
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>>527582118
Yes, completely by itself it shouldn't cause a problem because the increased demand and the ensuing price increase should encourage developers to build more properties.

The other half of it is as you already pointed out, governments refusing planning permission, which seems to be happening all over Western Europe.
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>>527582118
It's not the only factor but it is a big factor.

Another factor related to immigration is that nonwhites don't care for their properties as well as white people.

Another factor is that white people don't want to live in a brown neighborhood, so mass migration means white neighborhoods become exponentially rarer, and more expensive.

Of course it is very cheap to go find a crumbling house in a nigger neighborhood, you can buy that for very cheap. But nobody wants it because the people are not the right people.
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>>527582169
If you took the vaccine and wore mask you are high empathy, low sociopathy, the inverse is true if you rejected it

Has nothing to do with normie status. Normie status is determined by "am I initiated into 4chan culture, and am I mentally ill in some way, especially in regards to failure to have friends and women in my life?"

If you answer yes to the above then you are not a normalfag.
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>>527582149
No, I code from home for a living. That's why I said I'm not a wagie per se. Normies deserve to be wagies however.

This was not at work though, just a friend of a friend, who btw thinks he is smart kek.

>>527582169
I got the covid vaccine and wore the mark because I was on hardcore psychiatric meds back then to make me less unhinged. I have stopped taking them and have a different personality now, and never will again because I was just soulless.

Living in a city or writing a long text is not "estrogenic" retard. You are just being fucking retarded with this one. If that's how you feel then why are you engaging in "urbanite estrogenic" political debate instead of chopping wood like a "real man"?
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>>527579242
Proverbs 23:9.
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>>527581168
>none of whom have any money and will generate no money.
If they have no money then how can they afford those homes that are unaffordable to you?
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>>527582356
If you know anyone who writes ColdFusion tell him he's not God's gift to the universe because he can program. Thanks.
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>>527579242
Vaxxies got dementia injected which explains it all
Every pure blood notices massive cognitive decline in all their known vaxxie peers
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>>527582424
You have to understand that, like in detroit, nonwhites effectively locally destroy white society.
And so in destroying it, they lower the value of that area.

White people don't want to live in a nigger neighborhood or in a cuban neighborhood or in a haitian neighborhood, etc.
Property value in that area drops, because white people don't want to buy it.
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>>527582424
Because of marginal value. Because if supply is higher than demand, there's always a subset of people among the demand who either have a bit more money, are willing to pay a higher share of their income and live worse, or are willing to share a home, and those are the only ones who are going to get the homes in order to balance supply and demand, unless more homes can be made.
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>>527579242
Although on the surface I am not as unhinged as you seem to be, I feel exactly the same way and increasingly so regarding the general public. It seems to me that history is essentially as set of social and cataclysmic resets in between which the rich and powerful reptile bootlickers get to gaslight the entire population into believing a fake jewish historical account, and since nobody is interested in using their fucking brain to question anything, these elites are never in any danger of being beheaded in the streets.

In the end I think it’s likely that what happens is that a small group of highly intelligent whites inevitably figure out the game, build advanced technology and then get the fuck off this snake controlled rock. Maybe that’s why they come back and inspect what’s going on every so often, just to remind themselves to never live among kikes and niggers ever again.
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>>527582825
i mean if demand is higher than supply
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>>527579242
cool story bro
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>>527579242
>explain supply and demand
>doesn't mention kikes buying every house and habitation and filling with 10 shitskin family per house that eventually collapse because is build by other shitskins that don't know how to build local houses
of course, is not the same everywhere, the trick vary depending where you are
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>>527582118
Its like Uber surge pricing nigger. A relatively short window of time (2020-2024) sees a huge increase in population, far above natural birth. Demand for products increases at a commensurate rate. Combined with covid related "supply chain slowdown".
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>>527584028
It has been going on for like a decade in Spain. There's no surge of new homes getting built to keep up with demand. That's just not it.

As to elsewhere, I've been hearing about a housing affordability problem everywhere for a while. It doesn't sound like there's a surge of construction either, or its a temporary thing. I wish jfl
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>>527583292
People can't even afford homes. With or without "10 shitskin families" around.
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>>527579242
Good job on the meds! Really you will be able to handle life just fine if you remember politics is a load of bullshit. I quit 350mg seroquel cold turkey and havnt looked back. You really do just have to decide what reality is and stick to it. You know the truth. Just tune out and let the idiots argue themselves into a medication life. Im going to crack a beer and smoke a joint.
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>>527584380
thanks fren
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>>527581462
>the "immigration makes housing expensive" argument does not make logical sense
>normies don't understand supply and demand
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>>527586717
you are so fucking stupid. i explained that, retard. you just cant even process the explanation because you're mentally very simple. the smug attitude checks out.

>>527585618
i-i-i am a-autistic? that's totally uncool oh no!
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>>527579242
Yes. This is why humans are hierarchical.
Congratulations you just realised why democracy doesn’t fucking work.
They’re waiting to be told what to do in order to fit in.
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>>527587108
kek no you didn't you just demonstrated you have no understanding of the basics of supply and demand
you basically said "because supply can exist in theory, demand doesn't matter in practice"
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>>527579242
Bro my advice is to start a business making money off of normies..
It’s how most people are surviving these days. Fix your shit please.
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>>527587786
I think he was trying to say if you destroy those rental homes the price would go up but he did it in a retarded way.
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>>527579777
Check the trips anon is right check u safely get off the meds too.
I had a fucked up childhood too so I feel you but ssri shit never helped me. Just messed with my junk downstairs.
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>>527587786
i said that because supply and demand cant be constant retard, the problem here is not that there's more demand, but that supply cant keep up

you cant be ok with supply not being able to increase and just want to keep demand down, because then, what if population increased due to high birth rates? do you think that's bad too?

>>527587831
bro! i totally didn't think of that! im going to grind now and become an alpha male bro!

>>527587896
you are the retard, you think in a retarded way and can't do better
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>>527579242
Yeah, ideally there would be some kind of test to prove you are not a retard as a requirement to vote. But the pathologically greedy and power hungry psychopaths that rule us would just subvert it to help them keep winning and maintain the status quo. The real problem is that the people who want power the most and work the hardest to get it are the kind of people who should never ever be given it.
Also, stay on your meds. People who have been prescribed medication who go off them always become extra weird and annoying and possibly dangerous until they get forced back on them, and then admit that maybe they are a good thing that stops their life from getting fucked up. Until they start complaining that they make them feel numb and the cycle begins again.
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>>527587979
right and which part of that disproves the fact that immigration obviously increases house prices?
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>>527588540
Are food prices also dramatically up due to immigration, retard? How come there's still enough food? You're so fucking dense
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>>527588702
>thinks elastic flow goods are the same as inelastic fixed location assets
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>>527588702
Immigration can be a component of that. Maybe not in every case, but if there is a spike in demand, from a bunch of immigrants being added to the population, then that immigration would lead to a price increase. Ideally it would be temporary, as production should increase to match demand, but that's not always possible, or it may not happen fast enough if they keep adding people at a faster rate than production can be increased or whatever.
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anon you have absolutely zero right to look down on normies kek
you are way dumber than you think you are
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>>527588957
You fucking retard. Homes can be built. Your smug attitude checks out and is typical of someone with a very limited and simple mind.

If they required a bunch of similar permits and licenses to make cars, they would also be insanely expensive. And then we would have retards like you coming up with excuses as to why they are expensive, or even blaming le ebil capitalism for it, as usual.
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>>527589189
anon you literally don't understand basic economics kek
i can't believe you made a thread about how normies don't understand supply and demand how fucking delusional are you
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>>527589141
Shut up normie. What are you even talking about? What am I supposedly missing here?
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>>527589108
Of course, I didn't deny that.

But imagine if government started requiring a bunch of permits and licenses to build cars, and in order to make each car the factory needed a bureaucrat to agree with it and do a bunch of paperwork. And then people had to get a mortgage to get a car.

If that happened, I'm sure many factors would influence the price of cars, immigration would drive it up for sure, some companies would hoard them and rent them out, there could even be problems due to bad weather ruining some of them, etc. But would those factors be even worth talking about? Honestly. Would it not be fucking stupid to focus on those and not the root of the problem?
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>>527579777
Yeah, it maybe you not your explanation.
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>>527589592
It's not my fault you're fucking retarded. I don't think its possible to put it in a simpler way. You just can't grasp it.



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