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>mfw whitoid parents will spend high 5-figures on travel sports and send their kids to Doofus State so they can at best become a minor leaguer instead of just learning the damn mafs and getting into a good school
>mfw after bitching for years of bitching about affirmative action, now they're mad the good schools are admitting the Asians with the grades (and whitey enrollment is up too)
>mfw conservatives turn to "indigenous ways of knowing" to explain why Alabama is ackshually a better choice for Little Johnny than Stanford

Please just learn the maths. Travel sports are a waste of time and potential.
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>>527599113
>good schools
>maths
yeah no thanks. I'm not sending my kids to get brainwashed by liberals. My father and his father never went to college and neither will my kids. They will be homeschooled and will join me in the trades afterwards.
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>>527599113
remind me, how did vivek make his money?
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>>527599286
And this is why you will be ruled by Judeo-Han elites. Conservatives will do anything but learn how the cursus honorum of the world actually works. And if they do, they will bitch about it and go for far longer shots like professional sportsball.
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>>527599113
There is literally zero reason to study STEM at this point, thanks largely to decades of pro-STEM propaganda mixed with outsourcing and H1Bs.
Compared to liberal arts majors, STEM graduates are:
>less likely to be employed
>more likely to be underemployed
>more likely to die a virgin
The reason we "don't have enough engineers" is because companies refuse to hire american candidates, not because of anything related to the candidates themselves.

https://money.com/college-grads-stem-degrees-unemployed/
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>>527599478
And conservatoids will never have the credentials to scam people and get away with it like Vivek. America didn't win the space race by lying flat.
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>>527599113
Oh hey!, it's fart-forehead Puruswami Gangadangly
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>>527599551
Even if you want to be a saleschad, anywhere you will make serious money will scrutinize your alma mater when looking for interns.
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>>527599769
>scrutinize your alma mater
Oh yeah that's been such a big problem for poo shitskin indians
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>>527599489
>will do anything but learn how the cursus honorum of the world actually works.
all i need to know is that God made this earth and everything works because of God. Christ is King.
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>>527599900
Vivek was right. Too much kanging and crying. I'm tired of you wiggers. You got what you wanted and you're still whining abut it.
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>>527599113
I'm just tired of life
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>>527599113
our schools can't teach math because the niggers can't learn it.
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>>527600164
Learn it, loser. There's a reason actually successful white people are hopping on the "Russian Math" boat for their. Whitey doesn't have to do a 3 hours of cram school Red Queens Race to learn the damn maths. If Romanians can do well at Olympiads, Braxton can too if he were to actually apply himself.
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>>527599113
It's pretty easy to teach a kid advanced math so the slop schools think little Timmy is a genius
>artofproblemsolving books
>enroll in local math circle
>enroll in basic regional competitions
then magically your kid is getting into schools like UChicago or MIT
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>>527601711
And conservatives won't do it. And I say "won't", because wypipo used to do it. White Americans used to learn the math, they may learn math in the future, but this contard derangement regarding more transparent requirements is driving me up the wall. But right now, white people won't learn math, and they cry when they actually have to compete after the program to end affirmative action which used to be their hobby horse succeeded. Even when just fucking studying is a far surer ticket to a good life than the bullshit they spend more money and effort on.
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>>527600081
Viveks should be shitting in a hydro field somewhere in india
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>>527599113
>Please just learn the maths. Travel sports are a waste of time and potential

Do you know what demand means. In supply/demand?
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>>527599113
It's part of the modern western cultural decay. Jews and corporations push frivolity and individuality to extreme levels. Immigrant children fall prey to it eventually.
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You could be the very bestest of the best at spelling bees, OP. But still you could offer nothing of value to the world.

Something Indians seem to not understand.
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>>527602170
I agree. The SAT and ACT should be harder, so there's more granularity in the tails. Nevertheless, the rules of the game are quite transparent, and contards throw the rulebook on the floor because they don't like it.

If mediocre Asians can do it, so can whitey.
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>>527599113
Sometimes the messenger is more important than the message.
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>>527602514
Vivek is easy to hate. However, witnessing the behavior of wealthy but chudded out whites, I've had to swallow the bitter pill that he was correct.
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>>527599113
>Saars, do not redeem
Lol, LMAO even
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>>527602719
There's a reason for that.
Also the only white stuff he's swallowing is cum
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>>527600000
Holy checked!
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>>527602927
And this is why you will be unclogging Hellen Goldstein-Lee's toilet.

The reality is that 80-90% of 750+ SAT math scorers are Asian, which is statistically improbable. What this means is that the educational preferences and path dependencies that result produce white kids that are effectively uneducated by modern standards at 18. And it's not like American Asian kids are actually that good. Our 90th percentile PISA scorers which is mostly Asian is far from the 90th percentile (and I believe selected heavily from the NE corridor, which skews the results to look better than a more representative survey) are mediocre by Japanese standards.

If America is no longer rich or pleasant enough to offer value to foreigners, it can no longer import foreign talent and will have to develop native talent. Which, as we've learned from the educational policy preferences of Boomer and Gen X parents, it won't.
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>>527600000
600000 this many Jews died in the holocaust, it must be a sign
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>>527605943
who cares about Europe? Christ owns the entire universe. We're just temporarily living on God's land. We will return to Christ soon enough during his 2nd coming.
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>>527599113
>White People Won't Learn Math
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>>527606073
Which is why the celestial kingdom is running laps around you right now? This "WE WUZ KANGZ" shit is why you're losing.
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>>527606583
Fundamentally, it is not a question of capability. Look at the run Americans went on from 1880-1980 or so. White people can do math. They just have decided not to.
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>>527599113

The metrics of the Big 10 are the only ones that make sense
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>>527599489

Except sportsball isn’t a lottery and with zero poos gaming the system to make it unfunctional shit
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>>527599604

It didn’t win the space race by sidelining the best and brightest in favor of genetic shit either
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>>527600000
Damn, that's an underrated check
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>>527604530

Foreign talent is sanctioned and we only get racial slop
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>>527600000
Checked my fellow Christian
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>>527599113
That's more of an issue with the educations system and the culture we have than with White people. I think most people are capable of learning basic math up to geometry and being quite proficient in it. Then problem is we don't have a culture that rewards their good grades and too many distractions.
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-10000 izzat for family vivek and crashing indias reputation further
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>>527608739
You need guys that didn't have the grades for Tsinghua to clean Pajit's mess. At least Pajit can clear the hurdle of knowing the facts of his field. Stetson probably could have learned them but is only finding out at 20 that he can't actually throw gas, after wasting more of his childhood on sportsball than Hagwon Lee did cramming because Stetson's parents thought studying was icky.
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>>527599113
White people have become pretty much just pale negroes

They only care about sportsball, drugs, sex and partying these days. The educated classy White man is a thing of the past now.
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>>527599113

FECALOIDS WILL NEVER BE HUMAN
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>>527600000
Digits wasted on retardation. This is mudslime tier thinking.
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Fuck you piece of shit fecaloid trying to gaslight anyone that muttmerica is somehow a meritocracy. You get rich by knowing the right jews and being a shabbo's goy. Not knowing le maths. In my country there's still some resemblance of meritocracy left because there aren't private schools that are pay to win (or know the right jew to enter). However the actual job opportunities for private sector are the same as everywhere (know the right jews).

You can tell how dumb and mediocre our elites are. We are ruled by literal dumbfucks who don't know MAFFS themselves. Even the dalit jeet scammer you're posting is a nepo baby from what I've read and made his fortune not by MAFFS but by scamming as is the way of his "people".
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>>527609063
Who reduced the rigor? Who made admissions criteria more opaque and subjective to keep East Asians our? Who flees for worse schools when they get too good?

It's white people, and especially white conservatives. Coastal liberal elites actually make their kids grind and rise to the challenge. And you can give the Education Realist cope about how they're all cheating, but a visit to an Asian megacity will disabuse you of that notion. It's not even like this shit is that hard. The French simultaneously managed a nuclear program, a space program, HSR as good as the Shinkansen, and made airliners so good they killed multiple American companies. All this with a fraction of the population, because they could identify and develop intellectual talent.
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>>527600052
Go back to evrope
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idgaf anymore. the stupid masses are nothing but prey to the intelligent. learning mathmatics has never been easier than now.
>>527609349
they still exist, just in very small numbers.
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>>527600000
Christ is King
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>>527609916
Conservatives got what they said they wanted in the USSC supreme court affirmative action case. They're not happy even though white enrollment is up. It is clear that what they actually want is affirmative action for Braxton Smith, 1150 SAT, to get into Yale over Brandon Xi, 1550 SAT.
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>>527599113
Indians aren’t Asian
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bro maths is for nerds who can't get laid.
sportsball and drinking gets you laid.
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>>527599551
>The reason we "don't have enough engineers" is because companies refuse to hire american candidates, not because of anything related to the candidates themselves.
Yup this is reflected strongly in BLS data. Anyone studying STEM today is retarded. Total waste of money with copes like "you'll make more later in your career!" as the senior engineers retire while companies pay people even less for the same work.
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>>527599113
>Please just learn the maths.

starting from high school every single math teacher i ever had was some nonwhite that couldnt speak english. It was extremely difficult to learn 'maths' for me and my peers because the system intentionally sabotaged us by failing to provide teachers to teach us. I dont know where these mother fuckers came from, but every year it was some new shitskin with a fake degree that sounded very impressive but was incapable of propperly speaking english.
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>>527599113
I tutored my high school quarterback in calculus. Git gud you weak ass jeet.
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>>527612907
>I tutored my high school quarterback in calculus.
Did the quarterblack give you back shots after?
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>>527608343
Jews literally own sportsball you fucking degenerate wigger
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>>527612907
And yet, you couldn't even get into Georgia Tech.
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>>527610408
^^This
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>>527599113
> American Flag
> Maths

choose one
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>>527614871
It's Doggy Dog talking points in brownface. However, it's not like the China simps are wrong.
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>>527599113
why do Indians applaud scamming no wonder India is a giant garbage dump
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>>527613803
A year after the affirmative action case, something closer to actual meritocracy has conservatives coping about "Ole Miss is just as good as Harvard or Berkley, trust me bro"
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>>527599113
saaarrr
fuck math nigger, shits for fags
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>>527599113
Alien nigger jeet cryptokike pharma scammer who cucked JD Vance.
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>>527612613
I have no excuse, my math teachers was a cute French lady who never stopped smoking cigs
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>>527599113

True-Enough...

Niggers&Jews have fucking decimated education in America...
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>>527599113
If i didnt give up on sports as a youth instead of focusing on math i could have been a star bros. Instead im now a Mathcell
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>>527618272

Get-Some...
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>>527599286
Buy some real estate and rent it out to college grads . youll be rich and dont need college.
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>>527599113
>Saar
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>>527618099
>Saar
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I was a fuckin genius in college fuck off
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>>527612357
>Saar
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>>527599113
The children yearn for the mines
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>>527612336
>Saar
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>>527599113
I learned maths from football.
>3 + 3 = 6
>6 + 1 = 7
>6 + 2 = 8
>100 / 2 = 50
It's a lot of mathing
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>>527602634
>Saar
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>>527619152
You don't even have the Faustian spirit to beat Asian Americans. Why do you think you can beat Asian Asians by continuing the way you are?
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>>527599113
Epstein himself said that people working at the NYSE didnt know math. If a person could add they were already above 50 percentile of all NYSE employees.
Epstein was the foremost economist and architect of the 2008 financial bailout
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>>527618932
Lmao saved
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>>527619152
Lmao saved
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I am not even sure what the end game is here. Learning mathematics that is useful for engineering, or learning "proper", proof-based mathematics?

Most of the standardised tests ask for rather boring and "mechanical" questions.

International comparisons (such as PISA) pretty much compare how advanced you are in the "boring" mathematics.

Even the most advanced (proof-based) high school competitions (such as IMO) has turned into an incredible grindfest.

Perhaps something like doing your own investigations as a high schooler is the best way to develop mathematical creativity? Like send a bright kid to "investigate complex numbers". Then perhaps they find connections with geometry, get passionate, integrate further reading, become curious, don't get disheartened when they can't find a "trick" to solve the question...
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>>527620591
Okay, but you usually need to know the older stuff to be productive at the frontier. White people used to do math (or more generally, rigorous scholastic work) in America, but they no longer do. This is bad. Math is just the least subjective to demonstrate this.
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>>527599113
Most maths departments are surprisingly white in my experience.
Asians and Indians prefer to go into computer science.
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>>527621503
Putnam is similar to IMO in style.

Most of awards for the top awards for research mathematics still go to westerners.

Actually, in mathematics (unlike other areas of science), the USA didn't manage to wrestle away the leadership from other Europeans, with the French, Soviets and British regularly producing top researchers.

In general, it is well-known that East Asians (in Asia) grind a lot during high school, but then they kinda taper off during University.

I unironically think we have to distinguish this "grindy" mathematics with the "adventurous" mathematics.

Although, to be fair, Japanese has produced a remarkable school of mathematicians as well (especially in geometry), and despite not being competitive at the frontier of mathematics for literally centuries (despite dominating IMO), China is rapidly improving here as well (wouldn't surprise if they get more than 1 Fields Medal in the next three editions, for instance)
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>>527622023
>China is rapidly improving here as well (wouldn't surprise if they get more than 1 Fields Medal in the next three editions, for instance)
That's where there's a false sense of security. These awards are lagging indicators of research.

I agree that Europe is better in this respect, and we're lucky to attract them with loads of money. I just think there are serious structural deficiencies in the American education system and culture that often get dismissed as "lol blacks".
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>>527599113
No need to learn math, you get a 50k sign on bonus to join CBP and legally kill whites while other retards whites cheer you on. Why learn math when you can make money legally doing white genocide lol
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>>527622558
Uh, I absolutely agree. I think a shift is going on. Bright Chinese students know that the best training in frontier mathematics is in the West. They come here, make a huge proportion of PhD cohorts (especially in the USA, perhaps a bit less at top EU and UK places), but then often go back, hence repatriating this advanced knowledge. As an inevitable consequence, they will get better in frontier mathematics as well, and kudos to them!
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>>527623575
When I look at university rankings that aren't vibes based, I think we're at an inflection point where the frontiers of many fields are in China.
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>>527623792
What is interesting is that top mathematics ugrads in, say the UK or the USA often decide against doing a PhD and would rather get a job in the City or Wall Street or perhaps Big Tech. Consequently the PhD cohorts have a high % of foreigners, and especially the Asians tend to go home after their studies (also, unlike say 30 years ago, the economic situation in East Asia ex Japan has improved massively). Inevitably, their home Universities will become better at advanced research. I think we are probably not yet at an inflexion point for research yet, but surely for what concerns flow of talent (in mathematics). The big awards will be coming soon (maybe even this year), and once that 2 or 3 will be awarded over a decade or two the times will have officially changed.
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>>527624196
I think America needs fewer, cheaper universities that let in fewer students. But White America has a problem of willingly getting weeded out of things that require knowledge, and then complaining about the consequences of willingly letting yourself get weeded out. And often while putting more money and effort into moonshots and shit that doesn't matter. As the dollar weakens, the consequences of getting weeded out will become more severe.
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there was never any good reason to share a country, a language, or the internet with pajeets



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