Guys I take vaccines and think vaccines are great but here's the thing. If you look into the flu vaccine they guess using advanced models and statistical analysis which forms of flu mutations are likely going to happen next year, engineer a flu virus like that in the lab, and make a vaccine for that. The idea then is they will give this vaccine to people and it will prevent them from getting really sick later on when those variants arise.Here's the problem with the corona virus shit from 2019. We were all already infected with it before we even heard the first news coming from China. Do you guys remember the articles about that? I do. They were telling us about how we all already been infected and go hug a chink.I remember too that before the first news articles came out from China, I myself already had been sick with something, and got over it.Many other things since then have happened like us being told by our governments it's only a threat to the seriously immune compromised / very old people who are already half-way dying to begin with and even those people often made a recovery. Despite that there was incredible fear and hysteria.Now get this... I'm telling you guys, every corona virus and similar virus like that which is highly contagious, spreads around the globe completely often before we even know about it. I'm saying the corona virus already infected us all before we heard a thing from China. Well the so called "vaccines", which can only work via prevention, came out like 2 years too late. They also are in no way like the vaccines I've taken, they're some new technology that has been experimented with in the past, but which every trial led to bad results so it never got approved.So here I am thinking, it's the corona virus has already been going around for years, we've already all already been infected and got over it and developed natural immunity, why the fuck did so many people take that experimental shit? Like WTF guys.
The lockdowns were way too late to stop anything and way too half-assed. The so called "vaccines" were years too late and they had to change the definition of vaccine. These companies got rich and all doing something that has been experimented with before but never got approval. At first too it was meant to just be for the truly desperate, those who are going to die anyways but would want to experiment with it, then it somehow got forced onto normal people who just wanted to work.
>>527692020It's not a debate. You took an experimental, zero liability vaccine over blind faith and peer pressure. It's been 5 years and I've yet to see a single vaccinated person admit that they know what zero liability is.
>>527692208I can't wait for the next fake pandemic so I can walk around unmasked and see the fear in peoples eyes. They didn't even read their waver forms.
The logic the vaccinated use is absolutely mindless. They did this for 5 years and are still trying to justify it on others in 2026. Hilarious.
>>527692020Covid is a strain of the common cold. They just used a media campaign and most people fell for the magic wizard on TV.Look at how pregnancy risks work. People trying to justify the shots to others in 2026 deserve to be dragged through the street and shamed for life.
What's your opinion on astra zenica's covid vaccine?
>>527692020>So here I am thinkingkek, good one
>>527692873>It's not a debate. You took an experimental, zero liability vaccine over blind faith and peer pressure. It's been 5 years and I've yet to see a single vaccinated person admit that they know what zero liability is....uhhhh I've taken tetanus shots and other well tested and proven vaccines that are actual vaccines, I didn't take the experimental mRNA trash that isn't a vaccine, and I definitely don't vaccinate for anything I've developed natural immunity to because I already got sick and recovered on my own.
>>527692957I personally can't wait for a real pandemic so I get to see endless people with flimsy bs masks and my 6 feet and other cargo cultist superstitions die while I laugh at them in my hazmat suit or better yet in total isolation in my cabin way up north with 6 months of food and unlimited water and my own off-grid power.
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>>527693575The vaccine has no long term testing, it's zero liability, and anyone can refuse for lack of informed consent.There is no long term testing for cardiovascular, neurological, pregnancy, fertilely, or even cancer.You claiming>Guys I take vaccines and think vaccines are great&>I didn't take the experimental mRNAYes you did.Did you know the vaccine was zero liability BEFORE you took it? Or after.
>>527692873>clinical trials done before vaccine was given to the general population>blind faithWhat really confuses me is why the standard clinical trials wasn't enough for this specific thing to the anti-vax crowd. I don't see you giving the same energy when the new flu vaccine comes out every year. In case you weren't aware, that one is also developed yearly. They aren't using the same one every year.
>>527693409I told my sister if she wants to get vaccinated to get a traditional vaccine that works by the old methods and not to take the pfizer shit our father took which gave him blood clots only 2 months after which nearly killed him. So she listened to me and got one.I also refused to take any vaccine for something I considered myself to have naturally overcome. Natural immunity beats any vaccination.I didn't care that I ended up homeless, I'm a principled person, I live by truth. If people try to censor me or make me compromise on my rationality I will resist them even to the point of torture and death.I live, and I will die, but the principles which I have lived out and defended will stand forever.
>>527693711It'll never happen. A 'REAL' pandemic. It's always going to be fake with secret society scripting.And mandates are toilet paper. Anyone can refuse for lack of informed consent using a self written exemption letter (one for the mask too). It's amazing how about 90% of the population still doesn't know this.Even if they made a mandate a Federal law anyone can refuse for lack of informed consent.
Define "vaccine"
>>527693834I didn't take it retard. I've taken however tetanus shots. You want to ignore what I'm saying and fight strawmans then you can go die in the nigger pits with the other trash that use logical fallacies.
>>527692020I know this is anecdotal as fuck, but I got sick in the months leading up to 2020 as well. I haven't gotten sick like that since, and before that, had not even been sick in a long time. I always had the strongest gut feeling that was my first experience with covid. https://www.redcross.org/about-us/news-and-events/press-release/2020/study-suggests-possible-new-covid-19-timeline-in-the-us.html?srsltid=AfmBOorvoNQYEjNK9MxKdEZfAyD1nKJJBD5qiYewNfzdJnljbmFgIg9xHere's the Red Cross finding COVID-19 antibodies specifically before the pandemic was announced in many people's blood samples in 2019.
>>527693835>>clinical trials done before vaccine was given to the general populationLMFAOOOO You sound just like your vaccinated friends on social media. The clinical trials where not released until the FOIA in 2022. You were taking your shots for 2 years before that even happened. And to this day they haven't properly released all of the injury data. ANYONE can refuse for lack of informed consent as a result.
>>527694161You are justifying the vax. That makes you a vaccinated clot coffin. Just like your friends on social media.
>>527693835You should go on social media and say hi to your friends. They lie about the vaccine too.
>>527694194>The clinical trials where not released>whereOkay, so you're an esl schizo that probably gets all his info from Uncle Gupta on Facebook. I understand now.
>>527693835The flu vaccine is based on predictive models and guesswork and is, if made properly, basically an inactive form of a virus that can get into your body and be detected by your immune system and dealt with without it replicating itself and doing serious damage to you.Anything that came out to address the corona virus came out too fucking late to matter so I didn't take any of it and half of it was mRNA trash that has never passed an experimental trial before.Your comparison seems to make a point but it really does not.Remember a vaccine is preventative. It's not a cure. It's fucking useless for something you already got infected with and already recovered from.I have some friends btw who are Dutch and religious who are completely anti-vax, they refuse to take ANY vaccines whatsoever, like all their children never receive a single vaccine against anything.
>>527694161Do you know what zero liability means? A person with critical thinking refuses the vax based on this fact alone. 5 years later and not a single pro vax lover can admit what zero liability is.And also, fix your fucking flag. I've been here for 20 years and never clicked on the filter button or used a VPN even once.
>>527694470>Remember a vaccine is preventativeYou sound just like this clown. Mindlessly defining vaccines.
Vaccinating infants with naïve immune systems, is tantamount to circumcising their immunity; mRNA is not a "vaccine", in either conception, creation, manufacture, distribution, storage, application, administration, or outcome / effect / side effects profile.>\big pharma shill thread
>>527694470People aren't going to take a shot that can paralyze them, give them myocarditis, and cause death; just because you think they should.And the fact that you claim to have never had a vaccine.... I think you did. I think you took all of them. Feel free at any point to explain what zero liability means.
>>527694470>basically an inactive form of a virusno, it's basically starved and poisoned broken down animal tissueno one has ever isolated any virus, there is no such thing as an "inactive form of a virus", you're parroting lies like a fucking idiot
>>527694073The black plague happened and it's still around in India infecting the saars. It could make a comeback. The ideal conditions for a serious pandemic are a general breakdown of society and infrastructure and services leading to conditions where tons of people can start dying off. If anyone's going to cause a massive pandemic to happen, it's going to be India that will doom us to it.
People justifying the vaccine to others are all going to HELL.
>>527694094A dead version of a virus that can't replicate itself injected into a human so the immune system can identify and destroy it without it replicating and causing trouble. It's also purely preventative not a cure and it's completely unnecessary for those who developed the gold standard natural immunity.
>>527694189>Here's the Red Cross finding COVID-19 antibodies specifically before the pandemic was announced in many people's blood samples in 2019.This is exactly what I've been referring to with this thread. Thanks for providing the link again. We already all got this shit before the news in China came out about it.
>>527694883Justifying vaccines in 2026 just shows how you lost the plot. As I said, do you know what zero liability means?I wont take a vaccine even if weaponized ebola is released and people are bleeding out of their ears and eyeballs. People who promote and try and justify vaccines on others are mentally ill.
>>527695097This doesn't justify toddlers, children and pregnant women taking a vaccine that can cause death. Your buzz words don't justify it to others. If you want to take an experimental vaccine, you do it yourself to make you feel happy and protected.
>>527694283>You are justifying the vax. That makes you a vaccinated clot coffin. Just like your friends on social media.Are you a bot or just a really fucking retarded non-white? I am justifying vaccines in general to things like tetanus, not mRNA trash, and not failed protocols that make no sense such as wearing bs masks that increase your chance of developing respiratory infections, only spacing around 6 feet, etc. I would demand total isolation or a hazmat suit, lockdown in place for like a month, and all of it voluntarily btw forcing people to take it or be fired from work is insane. You don't vaccinate yourself also to something you already were infected with.
People who try and justify vaccines on others deserve to be dragged through the street. They are a total danger to humanity.
>>527695418Bot's don't correct you on the legal rights you flushed down the toilet. Being "anonymous" on here doesn't help you.You are still trying to justify vaccines on other people. You should keep your opinions to yourself because if you said this on the street you would get laughed at.Notice how you implied a racist comment. Sounds like you're at the end of the 14 hour meltdown already. Making racist comments doesn't help you. Your friends on social medial love changing the subject to a racist remark. You can all be best friends.I am white, born in a field, and 6'2". I win forever. Not because i'm white, but because I hate low self esteem and racism. And you're chocked full of that.Care to answer the question? Do you know what zero liability means?
>>527695418You have no fucking idea where you even are right now.
>>527694554No I'm not using the flag of a tyrant government (Canada) that doesn't represent me. I will continue to use the swastika even though it offends you. As for the zero liability thing, bro, the fact is we all got infected and recovered before the lockdowns started. The lockdowns should have never happened. And the big pharma companies should have not lied to the public changing the definition of a vaccine and creating mystery experimental juice to inject into people.You know also that in America specifically there's no laws against public experimentation on people? So they can just inject you with a tracker when you go to the dentist or get a flu shot. That's why when my surgery comes up, I'm going to have an observer, to make sure they don't do anything extra to me when my nose is being operated on, and I'll probably have to scan myself anyways afterwards for any RF that might be coming out of my body in case I need to dig out some lipid nanoparticles from my body.The zero liability thing is an extra reason but a reason to consider rather late into the whole fiasco. Everyone should have said "I already got sick with corona, fuck your lockdowns, and cancel the pharma companies because it's too late for them to vaccinate anyone".But instead we had these useless lockdowns that were nothing but tyranny and medical experimentation happen on people for what purpose nobody can rationally explain because it sure as fuck wasn't for the public's health. Probably tracking people or poisoning people or some fucktards wanting to find out what would happen if they ran human trials of mysterious crap.There's also the whole issue of bad batches like the batches weren't even consistent and then there were also heroes making sure people got saline solution placebo shots.I wonder too if areas that vote majority republican vs marjority democrat got different shit injected into them.
>>527695418Anytime someone tries to justify vaccines on others they are going to be shown the reality of the cognitive dissonance they are under.
>>527694699What's wrong with my definition faggot? Vaccines have been preventative for hundreds of years, ever since the first vaccines were ever made, and they've always been defined that way. You should have a problem with the new definitions they invented to justify mRNA trash not with the original definition of a vaccine.
I’m sorry to hear that but no, I will not debate youUGH I know… I’m just not gonna debate you is all
>>527694796>Vaccinating infants with naïve immune systems, is tantamount to circumcising their immunityI do not agree but would like to hear your argument about this.>mRNA is not a "vaccine", in either conception, creation, manufacture, distribution, storage, application, administration, or outcome / effect / side effects profile.I 100% agree with this.
>>527695995>Everyone should have said "I already got sick with corona, fuck your lockdowns, and cancel the pharma companies because it's too late for them to vaccinate anyone".Woo I like this line.I agree. The lockdowns should have only lasted 3 weeks instead of 3 years.Also, every nation is controlled by the same secret societies. So Canada (even under monarch rule) doesn't matter.Lets agree to be friends. I do like that comment about fuck the lockdowns.And the RF and QR codes are irrelevant for anyone who writes an exemption letter for lack of informed consent. It works for school, work, and travel. Even if they implement it again only the dumb donkeys will fall for it. The rest of us will be vax free and work and travel anywhere. I know this because I did it. I even flew in 2021 in the heat of the vax fear.
>>527694815>People aren't going to take a shot that can paralyze them, give them myocarditis, and cause death; just because you think they should.I don't think people should do that.>And the fact that you claim to have never had a vaccine.... I think you did.I never claimed that you bot/retard/strawmanning faggot. I have taken a vaccine; against tetanus. You know, because I step on rusty nails from time to time. A real vaccine, not the fake mRNA trash that only pretends to be a vaccine.>I think you took all of them. Feel free at any point to explain what zero liability means.Zero liability means you can't hold the company liable for whatever happens to you after you use their product or service or submit to their medical intervention / experiment.I swear /pol/ has been really fucking retarded the last couple months and has been going downhill ever since the first MIGA incursion brought around a ton of dementia-addled boomers with zero reading comprehension or nuance. We used to be a board of Libertarians and National Socialists now there's a huge infestation of Republicans and trannies.
>>527696111Because you're trying to justify them on others. Just take them yourself and be happy. I can go my entire life without taking a vaccine because I understand how the law works.
>>527694869Prove it, give me your best sources, I will study them and see for myself. Is there a book you can recommend I could find on anna's archive?Also to be clear are you anti-tetanus shots or just anti-MRNA bs?
The average person doesn't even know what zero liability or informed consent is. This is a big big problem for them. Lack of critical thinking. Their God is peer pressure.
>>527695109I already told you what it means fucktard.We have vaccines that are very old, well tested, been around for generations, and are proven to work.Why should I stop taking them?I will never take the pfizer trash, but I have willingly taken a tetanus shot.
>>527694161You know that Tetanus is curable, and a nigger tier illness that can be avoided with proper care for deep puncture wounds, that non-niggers would do as a sensible precaution following such an injury, regardless of whether Tetanus exposure was feared?
>>527695300>This doesn't justify toddlers, children and pregnant women taking a vaccine that can cause death.I agree and nothing in any of my posts here has made any such justifications.>Your buzz words don't justify it to others.What buzz words?>If you want to take an experimental vaccine, you do it yourself to make you feel happy and protected.I have not, will not, and don't want to. I have one friend who did take experimental medical treatments but he could paid literally tens of thousands of dollars for participating in the experiments. His name started with an "S" and he used to post on here and heil Breivik. I think he died because I never hear from him anymore. I try to email him and he never responds. He used to be a mailman and to deliver my mail to my house. I think he's dead now.All the people who willingly subject themselves to the same thing as my friend and don't even get compensated with thousands of dollars for the risk are idiots.
>>527696743The only thing that has value is penicillin. >"Well tested"doesn't mean a thing when kids are being given the HepB vaccine at the age of 11, and hep b is for sexual transmission. They lined up everyone for those shots. Only the few refused.I went my whole life unvaccinated. Didn't event make the measles or mumps vaccine. Because my parents had critical thinking.You shouldn't stop taking them. I support your right to take as many shots as you want. You will not however try and justify that decision onto others.
>>527695815>Bot's don't correct you on the legal rights you flushed down the toilet.When did I do that?>You are still trying to justify vaccines on other people. You should keep your opinions to yourself because if you said this on the street you would get laughed at.I'm justifying getting vaccinated for real problems and with real vaccines. Not fake problems and fake vaccines.>Notice how you implied a racist comment. Sounds like you're at the end of the 14 hour meltdown already. Making racist comments doesn't help you. Your friends on social medial love changing the subject to a racist remark. You can all be best friends.I'm extremely racist and proud of it. I don't give a fuck if it "doesn't help me".>I am white, born in a field, and 6'2". I win forever. Not because i'm white, but because I hate low self esteem and racism. And you're chocked full of that.I'm 6'5", white, born in a hospital, and all niggers and jews and chinks and pajeets and other subhuman trash need to be exterminated.>Care to answer the question? Do you know what zero liability means?I already answered you before what zero liability means holy fuck I'm just replying to a bot or a pajeet ain't I? Your employer is probably based but needs to figure you because you make people who are against the mRNA trash look bad by how you post in the most retarded way.
>>527695883I'm on 4chan.org/pol/ you jeet.
>>527696939Let's agree on this then. You and I won't ever take a covid vaccine. Those clinical trials are lot more interesting when reading the released FOIA from 2022.I had a co wokrer get vertigo from the vax, and another co worker (52 years old) died in his sleep after his 4th shot. The autopsy was ruled myocarditis heart failure from induced vaccine.) And the vaccinated lovers love denying that. They don't understand how toxicology or autopsy reports work.
>>527696026Nobody should be forced to accept any medical intervention of any sort whatsoever. Even if it could save their life or improve quality of life. I am against schizophrenics being court ordered to take injections for example, and I strongly support MAID / right to die, nobody should be kept alive against their will. The medical system is overburdened as is, so some people not taking advantage of what is there is great, it's also social darwinism. Forcing people to take injections because "muh think about the public" is insane commie shit.
>>527697362Notice how you slide to racist insults. I'm whiter than you and was born in Canada. The fact that you continue to make racist comments shows it all off. I've been here for 24 years.
>>527696402I was homeless during the trucker protests, the lockdowns, all of it. Those fuckers made everything smell bad because they closed public washrooms and all the other homeless were pissing everywhere. They made life fucking miserable for us homeless.
>>527697510True, but people on social media trying to justify it to others in 2026 causes the same damage. Anyone trying to justify vaccines on OTHERS deserves to be kicked down a flight of stairs. The issue is trying to justify it on others. Other people.I fully condone a persons right to take as many shots as they want. By themselves, and then they can be happy and content without trying to spread that shit to others.
>>527696591just read any study "isolation of <virus_name>", they're all literally the same>Is there a book you can recommendcan you catch a cold? and the contagion myth are good
>>527696496I believe in informed consent and that it's wrong to make anyone take anything without allowing them all the necessary time to research about it and decide for themselves. Being pro-vaccine doesn't mean I want to force shit on anyone or that I think all vaccines are the same, because they aren't, some of these so called "vaccines" are dangerous or the risks are unknown / they are experimental.
>>527697672>I was homeless during the trucker protestsBASED. And respect.I remember not being able to sit down on a park bench or even in a mall in the winter. The lockdown rules were the dumbest ever.Lets end on a good note. You are my allie. And stay unvaccinated. We have to tell the next generation what happened.
>>527697767https://annas-archive.li/search?q=Can+you+catch+a+coldI see huge variations in file size here which is the real book that I should read?https://annas-archive.li/search?index=&page=1&sort=&display=&q=the+contagion+mythsame here lots of versions which one should I download?
>>527697767https://annas-archive.li/slow_download/ee71990be6cada5c954c5ed755cfd443/0/3https://annas-archive.li/md5/77277298c44624e8e6282422916900c4Should I download these two versions?
>>527697888Okay but what are your thoughts on real vaccines like tetanus shot because right now I'm going to study Slovenia anon's books and see if maybe I've been wrong about viruses and vaccines in general. Like maybe I should just go full anti-vax and stop taking vaccines for tetanus I don't know.
>>527696864I got a rusty nail through my boot once walking through the forest.It didn't even go that deep in my foot though, barely penetrated, only just enough to draw some blood.As for what you're saying no I don't know about that, where can I learn about this?
>>527697099>You shouldn't stop taking them. Are you saying that cynically though or out of actual concern for my health because I as a white man feel it's my duty to take care of my mind and body and to be in good health and I don't want to continue doing something that could undermine health if there's a real risk.
>>527697410Almost no hobos took the experimental shit but the ones that did none of them are even around anymore they died so fucking fast probably because their bodies were already dealing with a ton from meth abuse and so on so making it worse didn't do them any favours.
>>527698571Go take the covid vaccine please. Idc about your talking points. Just go to your doctor right now and set up appointments for all 3. You won the debate. I concede. Now go get the shots please
>>527697553I've been in Waterloo Ontario for 33 years I was born here and never left. Total Pajeet Destruction. Also I doubt you can get any whiter than me, I'm pale as snow, blond hair, blue eyes. The only way you could be better than me is if you had defined limbal rings which are objectively more beautiful, I lack those unfortunately, and my blue eyes are a rather drab shade of blue they aren't a nice piercing blue.
>>527697891>>527698098can you catch a cold is by roytas, cca 400 pagescontagion myth is by cowan, cca 200 pagesi'm not aware of there being multiple versions, i guess any will dothe key is just to get familiar with the so-called cell culture isolation method which is the very foundation of the entire field of virology
>>527698932I won't because it's not a vaccine and I'm pro-vaccine so why should I take something that isn't even a vaccine? It's gene-modification and I've followed youtubers doing that to themselves over the years, hacking their own genetics, and most of them got turbo cancer and died. I have been a fish breeder and know a lot about genetics and breeding, the original gmo fish was danios, and it was done with CRISPR. You know why danios were selected? It's because they produce countless thousands of eggs so even if 9,999 of the eggs die if just one survives the CRISPR technique you now have a glow in the dark bioluminescent fish. Now over the years CRISPR has been improved and some people had done experiments to themselves on youtube to cure themselves of allergies and other genetic problems and some were successful even but usually they kept pushing it even further modifying their genetics until they end up dead because they don't know to quit when they are ahead. The risks of genetic modification are very high. I will never take mRNA shit I already got corona virus and recovered naturally the same as everyone else. Fuck, even if their stuff was proven to be 100% safe and effective, I'd still not take it because there's zero need to do so as I already got corona virus and naturally recovered.
>>527699157It's taking me forever to download even though I have 3.5 GB internet download speed.
>>527699157The Contagion Myth book I have it open now. 246 pages.The other one appears to be 452 pages long.Are there audiobook versions of these books also?
>>527699157It's happened many times btw that everyone in my house has gotten sick with for example rhinovirus and one after another falling sick it spreads and then eventually also we recover and I'm seriously wondering what would be your explanation for how come we all end up shitting ourselves and vomiting and being really sick for a few weeks and then get better if it doesn't spread through contagion? I've got the books open now and going to use my narrator to listen while I grind in Hytale.
