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HOW DOES LIFE WORK?
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00629064.pdf

Profile now private:
https://fortnitetracker.com/profile/all/littlestjeff1/seasons

The INTERNET DOES NOT FORGET, JEFF:
https://archive.is/NRzJD
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>>527850072
probably some trumptard playing on his account
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>>527850072
>fake your own death
>still have to game
this nigga
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This rollercoaster just keeps on giving
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>>527850072
I hate mormons so fucking much.
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>>527850072
do you think people stop being gamers just because they're dead?
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>>527850072
>Profile privated 10 minutes after original 4chin post
He's lurking here boyz
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>>527850838
Based Jeff
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>>527850072
honestly, good for him
if you were him, you'd be playing fortnite in israel too
>but I did eat breakfast though
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?
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>>527851050
Frenzy, Rope, Rear Window, and The Man Who Knew Too Much are all Hitchcock movies but thats fucking hilarious and spoopy
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>>527850072
What am I looking at? He was playing Ch 1 of Season 10 which was last year?
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>>527850777
checked
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>>527851050
Top kek
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>>527850072
LMAO IT IS MISSING CHAPTER 1 SEASON 9 - WHILE HE WAS IN JAIL

But the most important thing is, is the name of the account same since chapter 1 season 3 (2018) or it could be renamed later? the epstein emails started coming out november 2025..
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>>527850072
rich guys have gamers running their accounts for them and they just jump on to dick around once in a while. musk does this, so does any other billionaire type into gaming. its pennies to them to pay someone to farm their accounts into the stratosphere for them. why would they spend hours grinding some game they only want to play an hour a week for a gold plated gun when they can pay someone else to grind it for them.
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>>527850072
Some guy I know with a retarded kid killed himself, but his kid had some zombie game linked to his facebook account.
Even though he was dead, his facebook profile posted daily updates about zombies for about a year.
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>>527851800
Fortnite isnt a grind
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>>527851800
nigger who the fuck pays people to grind fortnite are you good or high on meth?
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>>527850072
Look at that avatar. Its clearly Ghislaine's account.
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Respawn
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>>527850072
just the fact that you played fortnite jeff is enough to make me believe you're lo iq enough to do it
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>>527851951
thats different than real match statistics retard
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>>527850072
redditors have access to his email so they prob reset his password
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>>527850072
Couldnt someone change their name to that and then make a thread
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>>527850072
how do we determine age of account to see if the account wasn't deleted and a new one remade?
I checked steam too to see and there's already 33 littlestjeff1s
now there's 34
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>>527852367
they were updates with highscores from his kid playing the game, so it really isnt that different
you're not a detective, and if you were you'd be bad at it because you are stupid
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>>527852650
It says "chapter 1 season 3" so the account exists since 2018.
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>>527852090
Epstein was a closeted fag. Of course his avatar would be the woman he’ll never be.
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>>527853083
Everyone in Fortnite play with female characters.
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NOTHINGBURGER

did my research

the archive has only 2026 snapshot and you can rename the fortnite account (and the stats webpage URL updates to new name)

if there was archive snapshot of this before november 2025 (before the emails came out) that would be sus

but this is not, somebody renamed it to this name in 2026
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>>527850072
I've noticed you can't archive any of the files. Archive site just archived the "Are you 18" wall. Fully intentional, I'm sure.
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>>527854113
Just download the entire ZIP from a mirror link and you will have everything.
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>>527853633
>memeflag
Explains this perfect timing? It happened in realtime. I had access to the profile when previous thread started. 20 minutes later, Profile was set to private:
>>527847909
Why would someone do that if they WANTED the attention?
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>>527852470
Weren't there small files release before the recent one? Someone could have taken the nickname from there as well.

>>527853633
oh
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>>527851951
>your kid kills himself
>you receive facebook updates about zombies every day to remind you he's dead
kinda brutal
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>>527853321
Thanks for the giggle you psychotic, child-fucking cannibal.
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>>527850072
This is the most importantly audio file in the Epstein files, and you retards are ignoring it https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01621008.mov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehud_Barak is the one talking, Epstein’s there and it’s his place, I don’t know who the other American yet is but there is some information you can identify him with

They even talk about a plan to do an insurgency on Iran to strip its ‘nuclear capabilities by seven years’ rather than an obvious invasion, this was during the Obama administration before 2013. Also, he talks about how he talked with Putin about a plan to convert a million people to Judaism (being selective about who they convert, eugenics wise) after Isreal dominates the Middle East.
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>>527850072
>even while videogayming inept jew boys get carried
lmao
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>>527850072
https://www.roblox.com/users/10461572985/profile. Found his roblox profile
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>>527854467
>Just download the entire ZIP from a mirror link and you will have everything.
Yeah but I want to be able to prove authenticity. All they have to do is delete files and I don't have an answer to "that's not there, so it's fake".
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>>527850422
video games are perfect when you're bored of blackmailing world leaders and fucking kids
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>>527850072
bumping for interest fren
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>>527852470
Yes, you can change your email every 2 weeks so somebody could have changed their account name if LittlestJeff1 wasn't taken. We know Jeffrey bought vbucks, and we know that was his handle on Youtube but thats all we have really.

If that was truly his account and he privated it then he really is alive (he prob is alive either way). Maybe Epic Games themselves could verify if this is real or not.

we should see if the date vbucks were bought lines up to the dates shown in the profile
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>>527850072
Did some research, account is actually based in Sweden.
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>>527857009
*change ur username every 2 weeks
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>>527850072
anon, people hacked his email recently they probably are using his account
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>>527851050
Creepy recommendations
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>>527850422
Bro is a billionaire and too lazy/cheap to buy vbucks on a new account.

I still doubt Jeffery epstein or ghislane were pedophiles, only their friends were.
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>>527852090
Why the fuck?
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>>527850357
>so much of a jew he can't create a new fucking account to play fortslop
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>>527857009
>FBI getting ready to turbo express
supeana 4chan (again) and epic games
This shit is hilarious. I hope these threads end up in another file drop.
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>>527850072
Could it be his suspected daughter?

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/527679285/#527687790

I also found some unredacted videos of what could be her
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>>527850072
>>527857342
>>527857290
>>527857259
>>527857421

The year 2014 is all over op's pic rel. What is the issue?
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>>527850072
How do you know thats jeff though could be someone set there name to that?
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>>527857467
>>527851360
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My psn account has a log in of 2022 I haven’t played PlayStation since the black ops 2 days.
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https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01621008.mov

Anyone listened to this? Memeflag on the other thread saying it was important.
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>>527852470
The account went private an hour ago, which makes it even more suspicious.
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>>527850357
The old 4chan would have hacked that shit and found the address it was logged into from in an hour. Fuck this husk of a dead nigger
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>>527850072
Gamers don't die, they respawn
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If this wasn't true why did they arrest him.
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>>527857901
the email was different than the jeevacation one so you'd need to find out what the email is. Idk if it's real or someone changed their account name.
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>>527850072
They're gonna say someone else took his account name. Even tho there have been no account purges due to inactivity.
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>>527857643
This shows that someone was actively playing not just logged in
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>>527850072
Found his youtube for the account

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf9DPb5xy4c
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>>527858023
He had a yahoo mail account.. let me try to find it
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>>527858671
i too posted this like a retard, look at creation date anon
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>>527858744
KEK you right its fake
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>>527858023
Found it

jeeproject@yahoo.com
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>>527858798
https://www.youtube.com/littlestjeff1
this was the real one per the youtube movie purchase of Frenzy but its been deleted
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>>527858834
Great. I'll send him an email asking him if he's really dead. I'll report back if/when he responds.
Thanks!
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>>527859042
>https://www.youtube.com/littlestjeff1
Any archives of it?
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>>527859173
Jews mad lel
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>>527859175
nope, retards on twitter found it but did not archive it before deletion
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>>527859175
>littlestjeff1
ARCHIVE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/@IittIestjeff1/shorts
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>>527859321
Link works archive now now now
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>>527859321
Archive.is
Archive.ph
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>>527859321
real or someone that just changed names?
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>>527850072
a gamer is a gamer, even in a dream
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>>527859493
footage is old 2017-2018 account created in 2020
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>>527854508
>Why would someone do that if they WANTED the attention
pretend they got caught and the attention goes up thousandfold. unless there's proof of that gamer account existing with that name from before his death then it's a larp
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>>527859555
>>527859363
>>527859321
https://archive.ph/rXJYI
no the vids were uploaded 2 days ago and 20 hrs ago, fake
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>>527857238
>I still doubt Jeffery epstein or ghislane were pedophiles
That's because you're still retarded
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>>527857290
>slop
Low iq neanderthal.
Imagine thinking you are contributing to the world after adding the word slop to everything.
I hope you took the vaxslop
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Epstein is alive in Israel
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>>527859621
That means the entire fortnite account is just larp then
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>>527859854
probably, i dont play it but im guessing that you can change names and thats all thats happening here
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>>527859904
Jeff did actually play fortnite and call of duty though.
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>>527851800
how the fuck are there even epstein defenders trying to come up with some explanation for this? if someone got his xbox or whatever thats crazy, how the fuck would you EVER get his old technology. if someone knew his info why would they just log on now? to play someone elses fortnite account? make it make sense
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>>527851050
if this doesn't prove we live in a fucking simulation i don't know what will
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>>527850072
jeevaction@gmail.com or whatever did show up in some DB dumps alongside its password for evite.com or whatever it was. Password was something along the lines of "littlefeet23" or some shit. I'm pretty sure there have been other dumps with other accounts (and passwords) linked to jeevacation.

There's a decent chance he re-used his password on other things, including fortnite.

Cheaters in games will buy bulk accounts, for cheating. These accounts are usually generated by people using scripts to mass-try all user/password combos that are found in other dumps.
So epstine's account could've ended up in a bulk hacked account sale for cheaters. A cheater could've used it.


>t. used to be a skid who'd use that tactic for "hacking" people's runescape accounts.
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>>527860096
>how the fuck are there even epstein defenders
it's literally bots running damage control
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>>527860217
says in the document all emails are terminated removed and not associated with jeffrey.
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>>527851800
>t. epstien saying retarded shit after being doxed on 4chan
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>>527860331
Yes, this email wasn't on that list, so it wasn't a relevant document. I deleted it.
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>>527860299
>There's a decent chance he re-used his password on other things, including fortnite.
Wrong, Kike
You can't just:
1. Log in
2. Change billing
3. Change email
Without requiring access to the ORIGINAL gmail account.
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>>527857009
>Maybe Epic Games themselves could verify if this is real or not.
Someone tweet at Tim Sweeney.
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>>527850422
imagine how pissed the glownigger witness protection kikes are right now who had to set up his fake death and new life logistics
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>>527857238
There's a photo of him about to bite the ass of someone who looks about eleven. And for some reason they're INSIDE a washing machine.
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>>527850072
>>527850838
I have reason to believe that epstein is literally a mod/jannie, or that he has their proprietary access and abilities.
During one of this first threads that some diggers posted here that there was evidence that he was still alive via ETFA documents about the feds being so quick to go after that one anon leaker and proving that that one anon was legit a guard at the prison; I post in that thread originally, then got a ban that was not in the normal way bans usually are (they didn't reference any specific post I made, to be able to appeal it; like what should normally happen), then I went on to post again about how the mods banned not only my post in an unusual way, but that I checked the plebs archive and found other posts in that thread were getting banned in real time while the thread was up (meaning that the thread was now being real time monitored and of high importance to the mods) so I warned other anons to watch out and to start saving everything about that thread and those documents, because it was looking clear like we were in memory hole territory, and now instead of the original 3 day ban, I have a lifetime unappealable ban on that IP. And yes, you can say "well talking about your ban warrants a longer ban" like some sniveling cuck, but a lifetime ban for talking about epstein being alive?
And I'm not some random anon either, they banned me because I have one of the largest reaches that an anon possibly has, because I turned the surveillance state into my own personal microphone because they fucked with me in ways you would never believe unless it happened to you (ProTip: not only can the glownigger breakaways "read" a mind, they can try to control it down to the neuronal level. Not only "diplomats" have or are getting "havana syndromed") and ever since then I've had literally the entirety of FVEYs on my ass running a discreditation life destruction campaign so I take every opportunity I can to fuck with them and let them know just
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>>527861924
let them know just exactly what they're serving and how they are literally covering up for the egregious misuse of DEW neuroweapon systems and literally crimes against humanity.
And >inb4 "delusions of grandeur", you can believe what you want, but literally every MSM host in the US knows I am not lying about that "having an unprecedented amount of reach in their glownigger spheres" part, so that's most likely why they wanted to nip this whole "looking like epstein is really alive and got switched out in that prison before 'his' death" bit in the bud by making sure that the idiot with the glownigger microphone wasn't signal boosting shit that shouldn't have been put into the public's consciousness and cultural zeitgeist. As for why I think it's JE himself? Well, the guy did know moot, knows about the power of /pol/ on being able to steer narratives and agendas to his lucrative favor (Brexit anyone?), and I think a thread about him being potentially alive when everyone is now going through his dirty laundry is the type of shit that would put the real fear of God in him once in his life and cause him to knee jerk ban the most potentially threatening people, journalists, and diggers that he could before they say more shit and get more people out looking for him. He may not be a mod/jannie himself, but if is alive (very highly likely), it would not be beyond the pale to assume that he would still have connections at the breakaway and kike captured shadow US government, who owns 4chan in its entirety, and that he could get some individual posters banned if he made the right calls while watching threads and diggers dig in real time.
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>>527850072
Is this shit being spread? Are normalfags waking up yet?
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>>527851050
lol
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twitter has spotted him IRL
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>>527859321
capital "I" used to fake lowercase L in the account name
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>>527862926
this is the real account
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jeff please come be my daddy
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>>527863338
>jeff please come be my daddy
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whats the status on this?
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>>527864769
The account was privated as this went viral. It was a legit and old account with several thousands of games. They are 100% trying to damage control, Jeff is alive and in Israel.
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>>527865106
how do we know thats really his acc tho?
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>>527850072
Hahaha what a pedo. Only pedos play fortnite after age 16
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? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTXDBvomgdI
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>>527862774
this is a gemini ai fake.
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Did someone save the screenshots they're all getting overwritten with private profile on the archive, THE PEDO ELITE ARE ON THE RUN DON'T STOP AND LET THEM HIDE
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>>527857238
>I still doubt Jeffery epstein or ghislane were pedophiles
Somebody should kill you.
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>>527850072
we LIKE fortnite
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>>527850072
Why now? All of a sudden this week?

There were years to "discover" and "expose" this

>>527862774
Memeflag Israeli pushing "Epstein is alive"
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>>527859238
Kek can you believe they're actually going with the 'epstein was a Russian asset' line? They even said
>goy = non-Russian
>I work for the Rothschilds = I work for Putin
Lmao they literally said that.
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>>527866634
Same user name as his confirmed youtube channel. Israel IP + the owner reacting to this thing going viral by privating the account despite this fortnite account last playing in 2023. It is too many things to be a coincidence.
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>>527850838
If he's alive he is most certainly lurking
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>>527850072
W jeff
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>>527851800
They do that for grift purposes. This guy never mentioned gaming and we know he was banned on xbox
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>>527861924
How can I stop feds from hijacking my mind!!
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What Frenzy movie did he buy? The 1972 one or the 2018 one? Also are either of them any good? I'm guessing its probably some weirdo gay pedo shit?
>>527850915
He is the opposite of based. Stop shilling so hard you shill bot.
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His outlook was just signed into. Is it not possible someone gained access to his account via email account recovery and signed in?
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This is very big.
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>>527850072
1972 Frenzy: After a serial killer strangles several women with a necktie, London police identify a suspect—but he's the wrong man.

Yup its this one. God i knew it. What a fucking sick psycho
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>>527868652
What proof that his outlook was just signed into?
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>>527850777
>do you think people stop being gamers just because they're dead?
Big brain shit right here
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>>527868678
Only the reddit thread on it plus the dozens of news articles pointing to that thread. I have not verified further than that.
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>>527850072
someone should sue fortnite and their parent company for ALL their profits
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>>527851050
>Buying
>Not pirating
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>>527851990
Make a persona
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>>527852470
Glowies/groyper/trolls could.
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>>527850777

Based and checked.
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>>527850072
>2014
>fortnite
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Sup Jeff what's your K/D ratio?
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>>527851050
Based and Hitchcock pilled.
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>>527851050
Rope is Hitchcock's best film. Good taste.
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>>527850072
Its like they don't even care about their fake deaths, psyops and whatever. Like that lizard guy that got a 45 emptied into him then went golfing a couple days later and put a bandaid on the "wound" For the record its pretty obvious hes not dead when his personal banker and plastic surgeon end up dead a few days later after his fake death.
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>>527862079
Sounds like a stressful time, anon. You have my support and I hope that comforts you. Thanks for doing what you can.
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>>527851800
hi elon, you aren't the norm and most billionaires aren't paying chinks to farm accounts to make them look normal and relatable
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https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/littlestjeff/achievements/quests

wow also kek
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>>527850072
This was debunked it was his loss account
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>fake death, but keep a f2p game account
that's retarded
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>>527851800
Publicly, yes, but this was a private account.
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>>527870225
Does it really matter? If people think he's alive, outrage will be way bigger
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>>527851050
>2014
>those recs
This is very unsettling
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>>527857734
3.5 hours long. listening now
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>>527870001
>last logout location: goldshire inn
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>>527857734
>Obama was called Black Jesus
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>>527868360
>exactly…there are none
Okay golf clap Jeff, well done.
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>>527860201
elon musk richest man alive
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>>527874747
>stankman the welfare kween
>that bankrupted all his companies wasting the money he got from being an insider on paypal
>position he got from being an insider jew nepo baby
>so his familial connection had to call the niggerman president to get him $400 000 000 in gibs so he could continue to make toys for rich people
>being an insider jew nepo baby wasn't enough to carry him in business
>he also had to get carried by american government
You mean him?
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>>527855672
Meeting with Ehud Barak and Larry Summers (audio only)
Duration: 3:26:56 · 2312 segments


Speakers:
SPEAKER_00 SPEAKER_01 SPEAKER_02 SPEAKER_03 SPEAKER_04 SPEAKER_05 UNKNOWN
SPEAKER_00:It's not easy to see how they affect.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know who he trusts on these kinds of... Who, the president?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know who the president really trusts.
SPEAKER_04:McDonough.
SPEAKER_04:On these kinds of strategic... McDonough.
SPEAKER_04:McDonough.
SPEAKER_04:McDonough.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:The young guy.
SPEAKER_00:The young guy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but he doesn't...
SPEAKER_00:I read you with Valerie Jarrett.
SPEAKER_00:There is a woman named Samantha... Power.
SPEAKER_00:Power.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but he doesn't...
SPEAKER_04:There's a difference between who he trusts and who he likes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So, I don't... You know, he... Do you know Valerie Jarrett?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:She's an idiot.
SPEAKER_00:She is?
SPEAKER_00:An idiot.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know well enough.
SPEAKER_00:But I noticed that Obama listens to her.
SPEAKER_00:His door, his telephone is always open for her.
SPEAKER_00:He listens to her.
SPEAKER_00:He believes her instincts about politics, about who is against him, who is for him, what's going around, who is cooking.
SPEAKER_04:ultimately cared what, listened to what B.B.
SPEAKER_04:Robozo thought?
SPEAKER_04:Listened to?
SPEAKER_04:You may not know this name.
SPEAKER_04:B.B.
SPEAKER_04:Robozo.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, no, I don't remember.
SPEAKER_04:Richard Nixon, B.B.
SPEAKER_04:Robozo was some kind of business, semi-corrupt business guy who was Richard Nixon's best friend.
SPEAKER_04:And whenever Richard Nixon went to Key Biscayne or went to
SPEAKER_04:Richard Nixon would spend a lot of time on B.B.
SPEAKER_04:Rebozo's boat.
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>>527875420
SPEAKER_04:And if B.B.
SPEAKER_04:Rebozo wanted something, Richard Nixon would say.
SPEAKER_04:But I don't think when Richard Nixon was deciding what to do about the Yom Kippur War, he was talking to B.B.
SPEAKER_04:Rebozo.
SPEAKER_04:That's the way I think.
SPEAKER_04:Valerie Jarrett.
SPEAKER_00:So in this regard, he's probably alone, but he feels...
SPEAKER_00:Comparing to other leaders that I happened to meet in the last decades, Obama impressed me as an extremely autonomous person.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00:He feels good with himself, even when he's alone in the room.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't see in him what we know in Clinton or in our Paris.
SPEAKER_00:And Anshati, our intelligent experience there, emotionally or psychologically, there is there, deep within the personality, and Anshati will need for love, for explicit expressions of love.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't see anything of this in my body.
SPEAKER_04:I've never seen a...
SPEAKER_04:I mean, there's lots of things, lots of things to say like that.
SPEAKER_04:Somebody told me this story that, Bob Reich told me this story.
SPEAKER_04:This is Robert Reich, he was Secretary of Labor.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, a small guy.
SPEAKER_04:He said he had been a friend of Clinton's.
SPEAKER_04:They'd been students together in England.
SPEAKER_04:So he was kind of Clinton's friend.
SPEAKER_04:He said that if you went to a cabinet meeting and whenever Clinton looked at him,
SPEAKER_04:He looked annoyed or looked away.
SPEAKER_04:For sure, Clinton would call within two days.
SPEAKER_04:How's it going, Bob?
SPEAKER_04:What's up?
SPEAKER_04:Is there something on your mind?
SPEAKER_04:What's going on?
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>>527850072
the account was just opened with one of his emails
he let "kids" do whatever they want with his shit and treated them like queens
it's more likely to be one of the "victims" simply still using this account
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>>527862774
>Kfar Daniel
Thank me later
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hea gonna start streaming to little children
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>>527875602
SPEAKER_04:He just wanted the love.
SPEAKER_04:If you tried that shit with Obama, you'd freeze in hell.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, Obama, he had lunch.
SPEAKER_04:He was pretty much set to eat lunch alone half the days.
SPEAKER_02:Is that right?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, they would schedule in time for him to be alone.
SPEAKER_04:And if he did some event where he was speaking to a thousand people, they would give him a little rest time afterwards.
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_00:There were too many human beings around.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he just wanted to be...
SPEAKER_04:He had no...
SPEAKER_04:need and you know it's the same he wants to be with the people he wants to be with I think it's a source of strength ultimately in tough moments in politics probably it's not the most effective way to mobilize people no but it's a very or look another thing which is which I'm sure they tried a lot you know if you were president let's say you're president of the United States and you liked fling off
SPEAKER_04:You're President of the United States and you like to play golf.
SPEAKER_04:Which he does.
SPEAKER_04:It's a potential big political asset that you like to play golf.
SPEAKER_04:The President likes to play golf with his buddies.
SPEAKER_04:And so 80% of the golf is with the same three guys.
SPEAKER_04:You know, his photographer, his campaign guy...
SPEAKER_04:And, you know, his three buddies from Chicago.
SPEAKER_04:That's who played golf.
SPEAKER_04:Now, most people, if they were president and they played golf, you know, they'd play golf with people from Congress.
SPEAKER_04:They'd play golf with business guys.
SPEAKER_04:They'd play golf with people who would read Clinton memoirs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's all boring because it's like a list of what he had done and still very careful not to insult him.
SPEAKER_04:He's extremely cerebral.
SPEAKER_04:They called him... Yeah, and he has this... Their nickname for him during the campaign was Black Jesus.
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>>527851800
HAHAHA ITS EPSTEIN
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>>527875949
SPEAKER_00:Who knows what kind of character Jesus was?
SPEAKER_04:He has this sense of himself as not me.
SPEAKER_04:And...
SPEAKER_00:all his predecessors, he doesn't see them all.
SPEAKER_00:He sees probably seven or eight of them.
SPEAKER_00:Of course, Lincoln, probably Kennedy, Reagan, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:He doesn't see the rest of them.
SPEAKER_00:He sees in terms of greatness.
SPEAKER_00:We understand that greatness comes from few major decisive achievements, sometimes again
SPEAKER_00:perceived at hindsight as important.
SPEAKER_00:And that's, I think, even on Iran, what really disturbs him is the possibility that this will be a great stain on his role.
SPEAKER_00:If they turn nuclear under his term, under his watch,
SPEAKER_00:Labor governments can make war and only the cool governments can make peace.
SPEAKER_00:Here we find something similar.
SPEAKER_00:The Bush administration, they can run very high rhetoric, but in effect they were parallel even from ordering the Pentagon to plan contingencies for certain cases.
SPEAKER_00:This administration, they got the Nobel Peace Prize as a down payment before they even started.
SPEAKER_00:Somehow they are planning and preparing much more seriously.
SPEAKER_00:Obviously the Pentagon right now, they keep improving.
SPEAKER_00:I will just call on American colleagues that when we are talking about surgical operations,
SPEAKER_00:using scalpel, and they are talking about chisel with 10 pounds hammer.
SPEAKER_00:But in the last several years, they developed extremely subtle scalpers, probably more effective than ours.
SPEAKER_00:And bear in mind that they hold a big stick there anyhow, without having to announce it.
SPEAKER_00:Basically, I once told the President, look, I'm confident that if on a scale, a spectrum of operational decisions, a decision to delay the Iranian nuclear program by several years would look more like a raid on Bin Laden than a fully fledged war in Iraq.
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>>527876078
SPEAKER_00:You might have considered very seriously already
SPEAKER_00:It is only the fact that somehow people succeeded in implanting in your mind an extremely dramatic scenario that might eventually develop out of it that makes you judge it as something closer to the other pole.
SPEAKER_00:And that's not an accurate description of reality.
SPEAKER_04:I might not have this exactly right, but I think he started thinking that part of his grand legacy was that he was going to bring hope and harmony to the big Middle East.
SPEAKER_04:That he was going to give the Cairo speech, that the Islamic world was going to feel better about him, that Israel was going to
SPEAKER_04:be induced to be constructive that there was going to be peace in the West Bank and then everybody was going to feel better and he was going to do for Iran what Nixon did for China and so I think he started with the idea that he was going to be a visionary great man and I think he's learned in the last four years that that's not going to happen and now I think he thinks and now I think it's
SPEAKER_04:Much more defensive.
SPEAKER_04:That is, I think he's trying to avoid a stain.
SPEAKER_04:Rather than to have it achieved.
SPEAKER_04:Is my sense.
SPEAKER_04:Is my sense watching him.
SPEAKER_04:But is he?
SPEAKER_04:But how long...
SPEAKER_04:I have this sense that people always say the next year is the crucial year, the next nine months are the crucial nine months.
SPEAKER_04:About what?
SPEAKER_04:About Iran.
SPEAKER_04:But then it sort of... Moves.
SPEAKER_00:Drifts.
SPEAKER_00:Moves a quarter every quarter.
SPEAKER_00:Move what?
SPEAKER_00:Move forward a quarter every quarter.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's like shale oil.
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>>527876125
SPEAKER_04:I think it's no longer true, but for 40 years...
SPEAKER_04:the price at which shale oil would be profitable was the same.
SPEAKER_04:The current price of oil plus 10.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but when it's 100 plus 10, it's different.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, I'm saying it's no longer... 4 plus 10 is... No, 8 plus 10 is...
SPEAKER_04:Right, but it's...
SPEAKER_04:But is...
SPEAKER_04:Is Iran likely to come to a crunch in the next year?
SPEAKER_04:What's the crunch?
SPEAKER_00:To reach a nuclear capacity?
SPEAKER_04:Is there likely to be... Well, no.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, that's one question.
SPEAKER_00:So things that could happen are there could be an attack.
SPEAKER_00:Let me describe it in a foreign way.
SPEAKER_00:Iranians will...
SPEAKER_00:always act based on what they feel, to what extent the other side, mainly the United States and Israel, are ready to act.
SPEAKER_00:And they are clever enough to act counter-cyclically.
SPEAKER_00:Namely, when the attention of the whole world somewhere else or for other reasons will be paralyzed from doing something, they will be hectic.
SPEAKER_00:When all of us are focused on it and stand ready, they might even go with further gambits.
SPEAKER_00:They might announce that they stop everything for a year.
SPEAKER_00:Just in order to...
SPEAKER_00:They are chess players, extremely clever, but they are determined to follow in the footsteps of Pakistan and North Korea and not to fall into the trap that, in a way, the Gaddafi, late Gaddafi, or under other circumstances, the South Africans fell into.
SPEAKER_00:And clearly they want that to end with something like Iraq or Syria.
SPEAKER_00:So the very fact that I can quote these three pairs of examples means that there is an opening for them.
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SPEAKER_00:So there is a need for something much more dramatic than the present kind of level of sanctions.
SPEAKER_00:They are very, at the same time, very painful for them.
SPEAKER_00:It reduced their...
SPEAKER_00:the reserves dramatically, and some of the reserves are practically blocked, they cannot approach it very easily.
SPEAKER_00:The real currency was evaluated dramatically.
SPEAKER_00:And it's not easy, but as we know from other examples in the past, the elites don't suffer.
SPEAKER_04:By the fact that I didn't see...
SPEAKER_04:If you treated the country as one actor doing what was best for the country, then I think there's a case to be made that the reward, take off the sanctions, give them rewards, they give up the nukes, all that.
SPEAKER_04:But if you take it from the point of view of the people who are there now, I don't see how if the sanctions come off and they give up the nukes, they're alive and in power a year later.
SPEAKER_00:You're wrong.
SPEAKER_00:The basic strategy of the regime is to defend its continuity.
SPEAKER_00:And for them, I'm talking from time to time about a zone of immunity for the nuclear military program.
SPEAKER_00:But the whole program aims at achieving another layer of immunity, an immunity for the regime.
SPEAKER_00:They see, look at what happened right now in...
SPEAKER_00:North Korea, they fully understand Iranians.
SPEAKER_00:Once they turn nuclear, that's become the ultimate guarantee that no one will try to intervene within their internal side, however brutal they might have to go with their own people.
SPEAKER_00:So they do not need it in order to drop a bomb on a neighbor or anything.
SPEAKER_00:They need it in order to be able to spread terror, to hegemonize the region, to intimidate neighbors, and to be secure that whatever they are doing will not end up with someone trying to topple the regime.
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SPEAKER_00:So I think that the problem is that for us, for Israel,
SPEAKER_00:Time is running out because they keep actively enriching, they keep repairing more centrifuges and now start with a new version of centrifuges that will be only five times more effective in enrichment.
SPEAKER_00:That shortens the time frame between decision and reaching a weapon-grade capability is running from 20% or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:They protect better the sites, they improve their surface-to-air missile system, the radars to identify stealth kind of airplanes or even cruise missiles.
SPEAKER_00:They are not sleeping.
SPEAKER_00:They already built a force of some 600-500 floating mines with GPS that can navigate, so to speak, their place into their places in the Straits of Hormuz.
SPEAKER_00:And it's quite...
SPEAKER_00:to create enough redundancy that Israel with its limited military potential won't be able to delay them by significant time and probably a year later or 18 months later even America won't be able to do it in a clearly surgical operation and that's basically their calculation so they do not have a
SPEAKER_00:timetable.
SPEAKER_00:It doesn't matter for them.
SPEAKER_00:They waited for nuclear weapons for 4,000 years.
SPEAKER_00:They wait another four years or four years.
SPEAKER_00:It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_00:They just want to reach it before they start to collapse as a regime.
SPEAKER_00:excuses to those who don't want to create a moment of truth, not to reach this moment.
SPEAKER_00:Under normal situation, the coming spring it should have been a moment of truth, P5-1 is going to meet in Kazakhstan, afterwards probably direct conversation.
SPEAKER_00:There were some rumors that Valery
SPEAKER_00:started to... She was born in Iran, in Shiraz.
SPEAKER_00:Her father... Who was that?
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SPEAKER_00:Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran.
SPEAKER_00:Where's she really?
SPEAKER_00:In Shiraz.
SPEAKER_00:Her father was, before the revolution, he was heading a hospital financed by some international NGO, by American government, to help the Iranian people.
SPEAKER_00:So she was born there.
SPEAKER_00:And...
SPEAKER_00:Some others, even some former players, including one of my former colleagues and some former leading ambassadors, tried to create a direct contact with the Iranians to clarify what would be the terms of the visit.
SPEAKER_00:I know it, I'm not guessing, that this type of guys would not have contacted them without informing the NSC or State Department, Pentagon, whatever.
SPEAKER_00:So for them, even if the intention is not this, it is read by the Iranians.
SPEAKER_00:I recommend it to my colleagues here too.
SPEAKER_00:I told them, we cannot pretend to be able to tell you whether to talk to them directly or not if you feel that's ultimately necessary to make sure that you exhausted all alternatives.
SPEAKER_00:So that coming the election, coming April, they will have to face a choice.
SPEAKER_00:Because if they reach elections and you are still negotiating with them, they will tell their people, we are standing firm, including America, they are all crawling to our doorstep to ask for some concessions.
SPEAKER_00:And at the same time they keep moving.
SPEAKER_00:It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_00:And I guess that even after elections,
SPEAKER_00:someone else will be elected.
SPEAKER_00:Whoever he is, there will be people who will say, oh, that's a moderate cancer.
SPEAKER_00:Assume that they will elect someone who is less, just less, less, kind of less colorful than Ahmadinejad.
SPEAKER_00:Immediately there will be interpretation that he is more serious, more moderate cancer.
SPEAKER_00:It is moderate, I am too light.
SPEAKER_00:That makes a difference.
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SPEAKER_00:You should get a chance, or it will swallow another quarter.
SPEAKER_00:So that's how 2013 is going to pass.
SPEAKER_00:That's one of the reasons why I decided to leave, because I don't see it converging into a moment, a real moment of truth or decision.
SPEAKER_00:It can easily drag over another year.
SPEAKER_00:But at a certain point they will turn nuclear.
SPEAKER_00:I told the president, I remember Clinton.
SPEAKER_00:I never questioned his will to block the North Korea.
SPEAKER_00:But somehow it didn't happen.
SPEAKER_00:I told Jeff, I remember sitting with Bill Casey, during Reagan time, as head of our intelligence.
SPEAKER_00:In regard to Pakistan, it was exactly the same.
SPEAKER_00:How many sites?
SPEAKER_00:How many centrifuges?
SPEAKER_00:How about a plutonium bypass?
SPEAKER_00:They work and they...
SPEAKER_00:Didn't work.
SPEAKER_00:Reagan wanted to see them non-nuclear, but... That's what might easily happen here once again.
SPEAKER_02:And if it happens, now what?
SPEAKER_00:I see it will... First of all, it will be the end of any conceivable...
SPEAKER_00:non-proliferation regime.
SPEAKER_00:Because it basically means that you can defy the whole world if you have enough money, not huge amounts of money and willpower.
SPEAKER_00:And it will start a much more self-confident intimidation of neighbors, which are still the major supplier of oil to Europe, to the East, to the Far East.
SPEAKER_00:And the regimes there are already kind of crushed between two powers.
SPEAKER_00:One is Iran and the other is the Islamists in Turkey and Egypt.
SPEAKER_00:These are two corner, kind of pillars of the, main pillars of the Middle East.
SPEAKER_00:And the Saudi leadership,
SPEAKER_00:I don't know how you call the phenomenon where a candle is just about to die.
SPEAKER_00:Flicker.
SPEAKER_00:Flicker.
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SPEAKER_00:The old Mender is practically inactive.
SPEAKER_00:The second is deep in dementia.
SPEAKER_00:They now just nominated a third one, someone about our age, who was the head of intelligent Mukherjee.
SPEAKER_00:But I don't believe that anyone sees him as a king.
SPEAKER_00:probably knife and other carving will become ultimate.
SPEAKER_00:But they are not self-confident.
SPEAKER_00:And Abdallah of Jordan is not self-confident.
SPEAKER_00:The UAE, some of the Emirates are much more confident because of their money.
SPEAKER_00:But that's all...
SPEAKER_00:how do you call it?
SPEAKER_00:They behave, yeah, they behave this way.
SPEAKER_00:It's a, I call them a TV station with an emirate.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know, I met the Sheikh Jassim in Munich.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, he came?
SPEAKER_02:He came to the security conference?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I talked to him.
SPEAKER_00:The Americans, I met Kerry this morning, they don't know how to read the Qataris.
SPEAKER_00:They are totally confused.
SPEAKER_00:And I told them they are just starting to hedge their bets.
SPEAKER_00:against the possibility that you will be the we, will be the losers and Iranians will be the winners.
SPEAKER_00:That's all.
SPEAKER_00:They start, they see Turkey and Egypt under Islamist government, so they become more Islamist.
SPEAKER_00:They see the discrimination of the Iranians and what happens in Iraq, so they turn more pro-Iranian.
SPEAKER_00:So it ends up that they're less pro-Islam.
SPEAKER_00:for us or for the others.
SPEAKER_00:They're trying to survive.
SPEAKER_00:So we carried it.
SPEAKER_00:Several years ago I asked, not him, the other one, Emil, I asked him, even then I asked him, are you starting to hedge your bet?
SPEAKER_00:He said, look at Google Earth in front of our shows, you'll find certain places where you can find two whales.
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SPEAKER_00:He said, look at Google Earth in front of our shows, you'll find certain places where you can find two whales.
SPEAKER_00:25 yards from each other.
SPEAKER_00:One is other, the other is Iranian.
SPEAKER_00:They were practically drinking from the same place.
SPEAKER_00:Whoever has a bigger, higher diameter of pipe takes more.
SPEAKER_00:And so we have to take them into account.
SPEAKER_00:Plain.
SPEAKER_00:So Middle Eastern.
SPEAKER_02:What's happening in Egypt?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:I told Kerry today, I think that you're the only players to have any leverage upon them because in spite of all the bad kind of ideology and kind of extreme vision,
SPEAKER_00:There are practical people.
SPEAKER_00:Morsi is an engineer.
SPEAKER_00:Engineer?
SPEAKER_00:Tends up.
SPEAKER_00:Shooting the same diameter bolt at the nut.
SPEAKER_00:It doesn't end with ideology.
SPEAKER_00:The same spiral.
SPEAKER_00:And the great leader of the...
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SPEAKER_00:Muslim brothers in Egypt is not unlike the ayatollahs at Qom.
SPEAKER_00:He's not a religious scholar, he's a veteran.
SPEAKER_00:You have to vaccinate, you have to make sure that the cow gets pregnant.
SPEAKER_00:And the third one is the one who was supposed to run for president before.
SPEAKER_00:He was pushed by some tricks and more things.
SPEAKER_00:He's a businessman, medium-sized business.
SPEAKER_00:They are all practical people, so they need to feed 80 million, 88 million, to create a million jobs every year, probably more, to deal with the presence of multinationals.
SPEAKER_00:working.
SPEAKER_00:They need you.
SPEAKER_00:They need Americans.
SPEAKER_00:They believe that America gives orders to the World Bank, to the IMF, to any other organization that they need.
SPEAKER_00:And they understand that it's all about economy.
SPEAKER_00:And they see, after a very short time, they see the kind of stress of the public, the resentment, the rejection in the streets, like now.
SPEAKER_00:So I believe that they could be, their actual behavior, probably not their vision, but their actual behavior could be shifted.
SPEAKER_00:I even told them.
SPEAKER_00:My colleagues here, I didn't see any reason to keep providing them with military hardware.
SPEAKER_00:It doesn't make sense.
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SPEAKER_00:They don't need it against Libya, they don't need it against Sudan.
SPEAKER_00:So basically you help them to accumulate against Israel, and then Israel asks to accumulate more.
SPEAKER_00:And you pay both, it's unlike the...
SPEAKER_00:this 1.5 billion or whatever and pour it into their economy, their infrastructure, some projects that you can have a say about and will deepen their dependency on you.
SPEAKER_04:What's the future of...
SPEAKER_04:I mean, something will happen in Iran.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe we'll succeed.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe we won't, and that'll make it worse.
SPEAKER_04:But the demography seems terrible.
SPEAKER_04:Nobody sane seems to be procreating, and everybody insane in their own way seems to have five children.
SPEAKER_04:One and a half children.
SPEAKER_00:Two.
SPEAKER_00:The Haredim are more productive than the Arabs.
SPEAKER_00:We cancelled some of the... We had exponential support function for productivity.
SPEAKER_00:It's something bizarre.
SPEAKER_00:Rather to be an eschar, we became the exponential.
SPEAKER_00:Always when I meet a friend with three children, I tell him, another two and you are deep into the social security trap.
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SPEAKER_00:Always when I meet a friend with three children, I tell him, another two and you are deep into the social security trap.
SPEAKER_00:That's your job.
SPEAKER_00:You can't sit idle.
SPEAKER_00:The future Israel is waking up at the right moment before it's too late.
SPEAKER_00:putting a wedge on this drift along the slippery slope toward one state nation.
SPEAKER_00:First of all, because with one state nation it would be even faster.
SPEAKER_00:It would be a bi-nation at first and then within the generation with an Arab majority.
SPEAKER_00:In fact, one of Abu Mazen's kind of partners to leadership, Abu Ala,
SPEAKER_00:He was the one who negotiated with us.
SPEAKER_00:At a crucial point, some five years ago, when he negotiated with Tzipi Livni, far from the public eye, but everyone knew him, and she demanded that he would recognize Israel, the Jewish state, as part of any document, and told her, you know,
SPEAKER_00:This lady cannot do it.
SPEAKER_00:If you continue with this demand, it will probably turn into one state, a big state, from the Jordan to the Mediterranean.
SPEAKER_00:Every citizen will get a vote and the majority will decide what could be simpler.
SPEAKER_00:So there is a need to stop this immediately.
SPEAKER_00:In a way, it's a collective blindness of our society.
SPEAKER_00:The side field is not full.
SPEAKER_00:Some people do not see everything.
SPEAKER_00:So that's what happens to our society right now.
SPEAKER_00:That's number one.
SPEAKER_00:And that's why it's not a zero-sum game.
SPEAKER_00:We are not making them a favor, doing a favor to the Palestinians or to anyone.
SPEAKER_00:But even within the borders of smaller Israel, there is still an issue.
SPEAKER_00:And I think the Arabs are growing slowly.
SPEAKER_00:They were 40 years ago, they were 16% and now they are 20%.
SPEAKER_00:We should be able to make...
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SPEAKER_00:to provide equality, first to the Druze, they are about 1%, they are totally Israelis in their behavior, by security people, by the military aid that came for the president, some generals, some pilots are Druze.
SPEAKER_00:Then we should take the Christian minority, they are about another 2%.
SPEAKER_00:They could become, they have an education system which is better than ours.
SPEAKER_00:Like minority, it reminds me somehow of our students, especially between the Dnieper and the Don.
SPEAKER_00:Minority with a sense of being kind of isolated from, they accept everything that happens.
SPEAKER_00:Then we have, I believe we have to break the monopoly.
SPEAKER_00:Orthodox rabbi night on marriage and funerals and whatever and definition with Jew and accept, open in a sophisticated certain manner, open the gates from massive conversion into Judaism.
SPEAKER_00:It's a successful country.
SPEAKER_00:Many will apply at the beginning without making it a precondition, but under the social pressure, the need, especially of the second generation, to adapt.
SPEAKER_00:It will happen.
SPEAKER_00:And we can control the quality much more effectively than our...
SPEAKER_00:ancestors or the founding fathers of Israel could deal with the wave that it was a kind of salvation wave from North Africa, from the Arab world, from wherever.
SPEAKER_00:They took whatever came to save people.
SPEAKER_00:Now we can be selective.
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SPEAKER_00:And I think that with much more open kind of mind about turning Jew
SPEAKER_00:We can easily absorb another million.
SPEAKER_00:I used to tell Putin always, what we need is not just one more million.
SPEAKER_00:He changed Israel in a dramatic, dramatic manner, the million Russians.
SPEAKER_00:And I see that many will prefer to be Belorussian.
SPEAKER_00:There are many young, handsome girls who come, tall, skinny.
SPEAKER_00:We now have a... We used to...
SPEAKER_00:There you come, you interview someone entering into some unit in the army, asking, what's your name?
SPEAKER_00:He answers, Sergei Biton.
SPEAKER_00:It's already started to work together.
SPEAKER_00:Sergei Biton of Vladimir Abutbol.
SPEAKER_00:You find everything.
SPEAKER_00:I think that...
SPEAKER_00:I'm optimistic.
SPEAKER_00:There's some necessity created.
SPEAKER_00:It depends on what you look for.
SPEAKER_00:I used to scorn the Haredim all the time about the Bedouin wife of Moses.
SPEAKER_00:He went to the Zebra, the Bedouin wife, because Pora was Bedouin.
SPEAKER_00:Or the grand-grandmother of King David, she was Moabite.
SPEAKER_00:That seduced his grand-grandfather in the field.
SPEAKER_00:And the whole story is there.
SPEAKER_04:So we can be more tolerant.
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>>527876465
SPEAKER_04:Is there any recognition of what you said about smaller Israel, not bigger Israel, is the only prospect?
SPEAKER_04:That seems right, but there doesn't seem to be any recognition within the country.
SPEAKER_00:There is.
SPEAKER_00:There is certain underlying recognition.
SPEAKER_00:It's not, you know, we had the quite surrealistic election right now.
SPEAKER_00:These questions are extremely urgent, both in Iran and the Palestinian issue.
SPEAKER_00:But the whole discussion was about the draft law for Haredim and the memories of the recent... We had much more genuine and wider state, Occupy Wall Street kind of... More genuine, really mobilized.
SPEAKER_00:And they appeared.
SPEAKER_00:They took the son of Tommy LaPee, the journalist that everyone knows because he's handsome and he appears every Friday evening on the most popular TV anchor.
SPEAKER_00:And he became, out of nowhere, not a drop of a...
SPEAKER_00:It's like taking a presenter of a bank and making him the CEO.
SPEAKER_00:It became the second largest party.
SPEAKER_00:But that reflects somehow the uneasiness of the mainstream, the old elites and the youngsters from what we are doing.
SPEAKER_00:So I think that probably a wake-up call will come.
SPEAKER_00:I always hope not to a painful crisis where you have to bury the
SPEAKER_00:but through something softer.
SPEAKER_00:But basically there is a clear, clear, whoever is ready to think of it independently knows what should be done.
SPEAKER_00:We should launch immediately a dramatic effort, even if we know that probably it won't yield a fully fledged piece.
SPEAKER_00:But it can yield
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>>527850072
> Fortnite
Not Roblox?
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>>527876521
SPEAKER_00:we set for a solution for borders and security.
SPEAKER_00:And the world guarantees the Palestinians that it will not remain so.
SPEAKER_00:That within five years there will be a solution for the rest of the issue.
SPEAKER_00:I think that we have to launch immediately with the American effort to create.
SPEAKER_00:regional security system based on the America, Europe, the moderate Arab countries and Israel focused on blocking fundamentalist terror, Islamist terror, missile defense and cornering Iran and coming to terms with the Islamist government.
SPEAKER_00:And that will help those
SPEAKER_00:The fact that we are moving with the Palestinians will help those moderate Sunni leaders, most of them are monarchs and emirs, to join hands with us in America vis-à-vis Iran.
SPEAKER_00:Because they personally don't care about Palestinians probably, but they are fully aware that they're peoples.
SPEAKER_00:In their streets there will be a very high price to work with Israel to modify the tensions.
SPEAKER_00:if we are not going with the Palestinians.
SPEAKER_00:And for the Israeli public, this will create a kind of framework for something reasonable.
SPEAKER_00:We join hands, we do not promise heaven on earth, but we join hands with the white people in the region of the world to solve concrete issues.
SPEAKER_00:It will help a lot to...
SPEAKER_00:And even somehow, I think that when you focus only on the Palestinian-Israeli issue, Israelis feel fires, we say in Yiddish, if they go to peace.
SPEAKER_00:Because they remember, I pulled out from Lebanon, there are 60,000 rockets in Israel.
SPEAKER_00:Sharon pulled out from Gaza, there are 10,000.
SPEAKER_00:If we will pull out from the West Bank, there will be just behind the... You know, when you come to land to Ben Gurion, you go over some 2,000 feet over Arab occupied territories.
SPEAKER_00:It could be crazy.
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>>527876530
SPEAKER_00:People feel that we are only giving, we cannot get anything.
SPEAKER_00:And it's true.
SPEAKER_00:For the Palestinians, we cannot get anything.
SPEAKER_00:But once you put into the equation...
SPEAKER_00:the whole Arab moderate world, it ends up that we get a lot recognition from the Arab world.
SPEAKER_04:That's been the argument, but the problem is that's been the argument for, in one way or another, something...
SPEAKER_04:The last 20 years.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I was going to say the last 15 years, and it seems like it's less, it's a less strong argument.
SPEAKER_00:That's a success of Bibi in a negative sense.
SPEAKER_00:He became successful in convincing our people that we did our part of it, that we tried, and all the responsibility is upon the shoulders of our mother, which is not true.
SPEAKER_00:We never tried in the last four years to make, we were never ready to make painful decisions in order to ever break through.
SPEAKER_00:Later on, Abu Mazen is responsible partly for what happens.
SPEAKER_00:The Americans made mistakes, the Europeans made a lot of mistakes, but that cannot justify our, how to put it, failure for... Yeah, and it's true, Abu Mazen doesn't help.
SPEAKER_00:He's not an easy client.
SPEAKER_04:Do people expect that Obama and Kerry are going to invest heavily in Israel-Palestinians?
SPEAKER_04:No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_00:Or that they're going to stay away from them?
SPEAKER_00:Probably they dream about it, some of them, but I don't think that...
SPEAKER_00:I think the rhythm of Obama's visit is that he has to do it.
SPEAKER_00:There are even some stories that it was born...
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>>527876587
SPEAKER_00:that Peres, who got here a kind of liberty medal from him, planned to bring Obama in June, to bring him some medal of the Israeli presidential, to participate in a conference that Peres initiates in the last several years, every June, and to participate in his 90th birthday.
SPEAKER_00:If you can't arrange a funeral, at least arrange a birthday.
SPEAKER_00:And it was promoted by some people who supported Obama actively.
SPEAKER_00:So he said, okay, yes, no problem.
SPEAKER_00:Then his people heard about him and some Jewish people heard about him and said, are you crazy?
SPEAKER_00:You're going to make a private visit to Shimon Peretz after five years?
SPEAKER_00:You missed Israel.
SPEAKER_00:The only way is to make a formal visit and to be hosted by the Prime Minister.
SPEAKER_00:So he found himself there.
SPEAKER_00:Then he thought twice and thought, yeah, it's not that bad.
SPEAKER_00:Probably just to make sure that
SPEAKER_00:I cease to be the reason for everything.
SPEAKER_00:The fact that I didn't visit Israel, now that because of this, everything doesn't work.
SPEAKER_00:So, okay, let's be there.
SPEAKER_00:Visit all the capitals, talk to people.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think that something dramatically is going to happen.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, Clinton, you would know infinitely better than I, but Clinton at a certain point decided that this was his
SPEAKER_04:Nobel Prize in history.
SPEAKER_04:And I don't think, Obama does not feel on that trajectory.
SPEAKER_04:But Kerry, it seems to me, will decide that's what he wants to do, won't he?
SPEAKER_04:I mean, the imperative is Kerry's job.
SPEAKER_04:are that if he wants to have a historic achievement to end his career, he's not going to get a historic achievement out of anything they do in the Pacific.
SPEAKER_00:I think he understands it.
SPEAKER_00:He plans to come to Israel probably even before.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know how to cut it.
SPEAKER_01:Just take it.
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>>527850072
Retard here. Order date says October 2014, and Epstein died in August 2019.
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>>527850072
...shush
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>>527876625
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to take so much.
SPEAKER_01:I know.
SPEAKER_01:You can leave it on your plate.
SPEAKER_00:You know, Kerry made several missions for Obama in the past four years.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes with Palestinians, sometimes with Karzai.
SPEAKER_00:Karzai, that's far from our media.
SPEAKER_00:But with Assad, the younger side.
SPEAKER_00:When he came as a kind of freelancer, he used to be always over-enthusiastic.
SPEAKER_00:If by his very enthusiasm he will, it will... Infect him.
SPEAKER_00:I will call it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Contagion will take place and they will all... Enthusiasm, before they land, they will have something.
SPEAKER_00:I think I looked at him, I spent some time with him, one on one.
SPEAKER_00:He's more realistic now.
SPEAKER_00:Because of this.
SPEAKER_00:So he knows.
SPEAKER_00:And he knows that he comes.
SPEAKER_00:He'll be too early.
SPEAKER_00:Bibi doesn't have a fixed idea about what should be done and then he makes the government the government that can do it.
SPEAKER_00:He just waits to see what kind of government he has and then he will modify what he wants to achieve.
SPEAKER_00:If Kerry comes too late, they're too early for this.
SPEAKER_00:But he wants to make sure that Abu Mazen is with him and will not disappear.
SPEAKER_00:That's all.
SPEAKER_00:He's more realistic.
SPEAKER_00:He will try.
SPEAKER_00:But I think...
SPEAKER_00:He needs a lot of luck, probably some intervention from Heaven or some other place too.
SPEAKER_00:An opportunity for a fully fledged agreement will be created.
SPEAKER_02:Larry, since you left, who's now going to be leaving government, he's going to go into the...
SPEAKER_02:The real world, after 50 years.
SPEAKER_02:It was his birthday two days ago, your birthday, yes?
SPEAKER_00:How old are you?
SPEAKER_00:71.
SPEAKER_00:I was born exactly six, four, and 13 years after Lincoln.
SPEAKER_00:Same day.
SPEAKER_00:I have been for several years.
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>>527876678
SPEAKER_04:You were for several years after you were prime minister.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You were in the private sector and were doing various kinds of business.
SPEAKER_00:I was involved with two small private equities, firms as a part of the general partner.
SPEAKER_00:and gave advice to several, some of the biggest hedge funds and private equities, as a consultant, and made some lectures.
SPEAKER_00:And participate in some small scale opportunities, some Israel companies wanted to work in Africa, make IPO in London, they need someone
SPEAKER_04:And is that the kind of thing you're going to try to do now?
SPEAKER_00:I think of finding ways to make more money and to do something more substantive, but I cannot go at my age from this position and start to actively, on a high-resolution level, running an operation as a CEO or whatever.
SPEAKER_04:you, do you think you're now done with government?
SPEAKER_04:Do you think you're now done?
SPEAKER_04:Or do you always looking for, I mean Israeli politics is very cyclical.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not looking.
SPEAKER_00:And I don't have any kind of
SPEAKER_00:burning, compelling motive to come back and to prove something justified.
SPEAKER_00:But with our kind of eclectic, chaotic kind of move in the stage where we are, I cannot exclude that under certain types of crisis I might be called
SPEAKER_00:I don't know, backward with any kind of hard feelings or needs.
SPEAKER_00:Unlike, I don't know if you knew Sharon.
SPEAKER_00:Sharon was burning with a kind of sense of something that had not been completed from the time he could not become the Chief of Staff, then he could not become a...
SPEAKER_00:Prime Minister, he was Defense Minister, was sent out under kind of an inquiry commission that blamed him for some missteps and so on.
SPEAKER_00:So he was burning it.
SPEAKER_00:And he didn't see even the lines.
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>>527876641
Responding to myself, but Season 10 of Fortnite was released on August 1, 2019. Epstein died on the 18th....on which date(s) did he play?
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>>527861924
>>527862079
Unfathomably based and redpilled.
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>>527876712
SPEAKER_00:He basically got a stroke in the evening or in the morning.
SPEAKER_00:Major headlines said that he got, according to the police, 3.5 billion as a bribe to finance some political activity.
SPEAKER_00:Even Rabin was burning with need to come back after his first.
SPEAKER_00:I don't have fully satisfied.
SPEAKER_00:But I know that I might be called.
SPEAKER_00:So I would not do something that deliberately and for sure will close the way back.
SPEAKER_00:But I will not hesitate to go something that might.
SPEAKER_00:me in a way that will make it almost impossible to come back.
SPEAKER_04:Probably the way to have the greatest chance to come back is to look
SPEAKER_04:least interested and eager to come back.
SPEAKER_04:I think that's an irony of political life is that when you look like you don't need it,
SPEAKER_04:and don't want it um it's you become more you become more you become more desirable at you become more desirable as a um as a consequence but you'd like you would go back to government at this stage I'm like he I'm
SPEAKER_04:I wasn't prime minister of my country, and I'm not going to be president of my country.
SPEAKER_04:I am, I think, in the same general, I'm a little younger, I'm 58, but I'm in the same general place, I think, that Ehud is.
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>>527850072
Anyone get into the same game as him and ask "Ay yo Jeff how da fuq you still alive?"
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>>527876896
SPEAKER_04:There were moments in my life when I was burning.
SPEAKER_04:I was burning to become Secretary of the Treasury.
SPEAKER_04:I very much wanted to go back into government and help do something about this financial crisis in 2008.
SPEAKER_04:Now, if the right role presented itself, I would go.
SPEAKER_04:I don't want to do anything that would...
SPEAKER_04:I don't want to carelessly foreclose options since I don't know what I'm going to want in the future.
SPEAKER_04:But unlike to take somebody I was friendly with, Richard Holbrook.
SPEAKER_04:Whenever Richard Holbrook was not in government, his whole life was organized around figuring out how to maximize the chance of getting back in
SPEAKER_04:people would ask me you know before 2008 people that I remember in India once they asked me where was the Democratic Party where's the Democratic Party going to be on the non-proliferation agreement and I said and they had been talking about Holbrooke and I said well what did Holbrooke think and they said well Holbrooke thinks it's a good idea Holbrooke's supporting our position and I said well then the Democratic Party will support it and they said
SPEAKER_04:I remember somebody said, does he have that much influence?
SPEAKER_04:I said, no.
SPEAKER_04:But I promise he will not have taken a position on the record that has any substantial chance of being opposed by whoever the Democratic presidential candidate will be.
SPEAKER_04:So I don't want to lose my life.
SPEAKER_00:He was in a way suppressed.
SPEAKER_00:kind of depressed when he was out of, he never really enjoyed being out of the Ahmet Holbrook.
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>>527876941
SPEAKER_04:No, it was all about getting back in.
SPEAKER_04:It was all about getting back in to government.
SPEAKER_04:People say, I have not, I've known him fairly well for the last
SPEAKER_04:15 years or so, but I didn't know him before.
SPEAKER_04:People said that it took Kissinger a long time to come to terms with the fact that he wasn't going back into government.
SPEAKER_04:That for a long time he was organized around going back into government and at a certain point he
SPEAKER_04:Decided to become a, decided to have a different kind of role and was sort of happy having that kind of role.
SPEAKER_04:My challenge has been, I don't know whether you found this, it sounds from the way you spoke like you found it.
SPEAKER_04:My challenge was relative...
SPEAKER_04:or being a government official it was fairly easy to make substantial amounts of money not money like Jeffrey and some of his friends but money like money that was like a lot of money from my point of view the challenge is and it's actually not that hard to do things that are reasonably pleasant and kind of interesting what is hard is
SPEAKER_04:Because you have adrenaline.
SPEAKER_02:Excitement.
SPEAKER_04:That are exciting, where you, like, where you, that was best.
SPEAKER_00:It depends.
SPEAKER_00:It probably depends how, yeah, how deep you go.
SPEAKER_00:In my last round in business, you know, I have a friend who was very successful in venture capital in the good year, the very beginning of the hype.
SPEAKER_00:And he asked me to work with him and after several months he told a common friend of us that Ehud is not hungry enough.
SPEAKER_00:But I feel more hungry now than then.
SPEAKER_00:Because then I still thought that I might come back within several years.
SPEAKER_00:And now I don't have any problem with not...
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>>527851800
Soon we will find out Epstein played OSRS
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>>527876965
SPEAKER_00:gone with finding something that should be fun and very profitable and fun at least some of the time.
SPEAKER_00:You know, in my experience, even politics was not always fun and even science, you know, before I choose to go to the military rather than to science, I spent a summer at the Weizmann Institute.
SPEAKER_00:I met yesterday a Nobel Prize laureate in astrophysics that worked together with a member of my class.
SPEAKER_00:He's also an astrophysicist.
SPEAKER_00:And he told him that we worked together in a vice-ministerial summer.
SPEAKER_00:So after this summer, he decided to stay in science.
SPEAKER_00:And I decided that we were working all the summer on...
SPEAKER_00:Photographs from bubble cells, hydrogen and other heavy magnetic fields, the preliminary
SPEAKER_00:a CERN operation about identifying the behavioral particles.
SPEAKER_00:And I've seen, we were six labs working all over Europe and Israel on the same one million photographs.
SPEAKER_00:And after a year and a half, the professors sat down together, decided what to do.
SPEAKER_00:Young PhDs who had the greatest idea, the professor went to the congresses abroad to represent it and so on.
SPEAKER_00:And I found the relation between the fascinating work in the last six weeks and the extremely boring looking of a picture after picture to see some abnormality in the behavior of all these bubble chambers.
SPEAKER_00:And I decided to go there.
SPEAKER_00:So somehow I don't think that any, probably paintings or sculptures
SPEAKER_04:Nothing is fun all the time.
SPEAKER_04:The question is finding... Something that makes a change.
SPEAKER_04:Where you feel like it's...
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>>527877052
SPEAKER_00:It's not just achievement, it's meaning, that there is some meaning, something which is important to you.
SPEAKER_04:Some kind of meaning which depends on both what the thing is...
SPEAKER_04:and how large your, you know, what your role.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's about something that goes beyond your body and beyond your time.
SPEAKER_00:Something important, really important, it's not complicated.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think that there are many things.
SPEAKER_00:Probably at an earlier age than all of us, someone can gamble on some idea and bring something from scratch that has never been there and changed a certain part of the world.
SPEAKER_00:It's not for us.
SPEAKER_00:The most we can do is to use our
SPEAKER_00:capacity to integrate things and still to make judgments and to make good recommendations, to back up what we say by two or three layers deeper into certain areas where we feel confident.
SPEAKER_00:And probably to find a way to join such efforts in a way that creates synergy between several kinds of us.
SPEAKER_00:I think that there could be more.
SPEAKER_00:probably all the day last Saturday or the week before, in Munich, meeting with only 20 ministers of foreign affairs and heads of state who were invited there from Georgia, from Mongolia, Montenegro, Albania, Zagreb, Estonia,
SPEAKER_00:And you see how much these guys, some of them at the very kind of not primordial but embryonic phases of normalizing a society or state, facing huge challenges and having huge potentials in a way.
SPEAKER_00:And they don't know how to
SPEAKER_00:how to move in finance, how to move in security, how to move in international relations positions themselves.
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>>527877107
SPEAKER_00:I think that working on such projects could be fascinating.
SPEAKER_00:Because you see embryonic nations.
SPEAKER_00:Some of them have been born as nations, they have all the identities.
SPEAKER_00:And they look, think that for you it's something that's long behind you.
SPEAKER_00:It's the great next challenge sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:That could be something of importance, you know.
SPEAKER_00:I've never been to Montenegro or Mongolia, but I assume if you go to Mongolia, you see these nomadic herds.
SPEAKER_00:The most interesting thing I have heard about them participating in a gathering ran by some NGO in Davos about micro-insurance.
SPEAKER_00:They want to copy the idea of micro-financing to micro-insurance.
SPEAKER_00:Someone told a story that they went with micro-insurance against weather to Mongolia.
SPEAKER_00:And they had to set a way how to calculate.
SPEAKER_00:I'll pass the card.
SPEAKER_00:equal judgment about what to pay out.
SPEAKER_00:You create a parameter because you cannot go to Mongolia to take case by case.
SPEAKER_00:So it ended one parameter was the size of the herd that you hold.
SPEAKER_00:Because they didn't get someone from the locals to work with them.
SPEAKER_00:It ended up that they set the counting station at some point.
SPEAKER_00:hilly landscape and many of the shepherds identified immediately without knowing anything about it that that's a parameter and the earth were moving around they didn't put a stamp on any so it's full of you find it so so so
SPEAKER_00:deeply backward, that gives a sense of something that you can do with all that you accumulate.
SPEAKER_00:You cannot invent a vaccine against some remote parasite in Africa, but in sub-Saharan Africa there are huge opportunities to help them.
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>>527877155
SPEAKER_00:There are many, many corrupt people and it will take time for probably a generation.
SPEAKER_00:Down the stream they will keep robbing the nature of society by the elites, but they are still moving forward.
SPEAKER_00:It cannot be denied when you compare them to 20 or 40 years ago.
SPEAKER_00:I think that could be interesting.
SPEAKER_02:I think, you see, the two of you, that's why I want to...
SPEAKER_02:The two areas, I think, these beginning nation states, whether Mongolia or parts of Africa, even Kazakhstan has a lot of money, but the sophistication is 10 years back.
SPEAKER_02:Cellular service being sort of a prime example of not being burdened with copper in the ground and fiber so you can go right to cellular phone.
SPEAKER_02:You have this leapfrog.
SPEAKER_02:And I think you're both a little crazy in the fact that in terms of compensation and money,
SPEAKER_02:The two hottest areas is every country wants to be now in the world of finance.
SPEAKER_02:They're not really talking about manufacturing.
SPEAKER_02:If you're a leader, you're talking about food security.
SPEAKER_02:You're not talking about a production line.
SPEAKER_02:You want to exploit natural resources, but you want to exploit your natural resources for an economy.
SPEAKER_02:And you want to have two things.
SPEAKER_02:You want to have economy and you want to have money, security.
SPEAKER_02:So you two are really, I think, in the
SPEAKER_02:primary positions for the current time, I don't know if it lasts more than 5-10 years, maybe something else takes over.
SPEAKER_00:We're not interested in development more than 30 years.
SPEAKER_02:No, but security, I think you need to think about how to break it down.
SPEAKER_02:Cyber security.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's going to be the hot button for the next two years.
SPEAKER_02:Big time.
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>>527877178
SPEAKER_02:Border security is less of an issue.
SPEAKER_02:A lot of people can handle it.
SPEAKER_00:But national security is something, because in many of these countries they don't know even how to approach it.
SPEAKER_00:How to approach on a national level the issue of security of a country in the backyard of Europe, like Montenegro or Albania or Estonia or Latvia, and on the other hand, a totally different situation, the security of Mongolia.
SPEAKER_00:don't know what to do, so they do what they know.
They issue bids and take some.
And that's it.
SPEAKER_00:They don't build even national security in a proper way.
SPEAKER_00:The last guy who comes to them with some impressive ideas and good margins, they fall into the trap.
SPEAKER_02:But if you were advising Mongolia on security... Again, I'm not sure...
SPEAKER_02:General security, how do you start?
SPEAKER_02:Step one through five is why.
SPEAKER_00:From budget to what to do and what not to do.
SPEAKER_00:And how to do it effectively.
SPEAKER_00:And what could not be treated by any kind of security but by diplomacy.
SPEAKER_00:And probably even, you know, I met with the foreign minister of the National Security Advisor and they insisted on sending a delegation to Israel because we are a small country.
SPEAKER_00:Hostile.
SPEAKER_00:They're good people, but they're so, so far behind.
SPEAKER_00:It's like coming to a seminar in the university about some issue.
SPEAKER_00:They have something.
SPEAKER_00:They're responsible for the country.
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>>527877210
SPEAKER_00:But they never thought of how to approach this issue.
SPEAKER_00:how to make it, what's worth investing, what's not worth investing in, how to make the major effort they are doing now with multinationals to balance their approach to mining.
SPEAKER_00:how to combine this with security, first of all security of the mining fields and security of the whole area and what to do with the...
SPEAKER_00:They are trying to find a way, they are reasonable people, but they are afraid, afraid that some of the advice that they are given are motivated by...
SPEAKER_00:great powers behind those who advise them the issue of trust.
SPEAKER_00:Of course they don't know what to do with the economy and even what to do with the money they can get, how to use the potential, what to do, how to develop, what should be taken by the state, how to make the big companies participate in it, how you can leverage them to do it, how to make them
SPEAKER_00:How to keep the edge of being the owner of the whole thing beyond the first signature on a document?
SPEAKER_00:They're not, you know, it's not simple.
SPEAKER_00:Nothing is simple.
SPEAKER_04:You were saying before you came in that there are a lot of, that you think there are a lot of these people who really are very hungry for advice.
SPEAKER_02:And you see it, right?
SPEAKER_00:I feel the same.
SPEAKER_00:I feel that if... That's a hypothesis.
SPEAKER_00:I spoke to a friend of mine that became a friend of Jeff as well.
SPEAKER_00:A guy who works with Ban Ki-moon.
SPEAKER_00:For one dollar per year, named Terry Larsen.
SPEAKER_00:It's a Norwegian diplomat.
SPEAKER_00:His wife is Norwegian.
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>>527877252
SPEAKER_00:He had some trouble, so he left the public services.
SPEAKER_00:His wife remained there.
SPEAKER_00:And he travels all around the world on behalf of the
SPEAKER_00:Now assume for a moment that you, Jeff and myself, and these Terriers also, establish a consulting group that takes on the basis of countries, sovereigns, to give them advice, strategic advice on macroeconomy, finance, security, and international relationship.
SPEAKER_00:And these all things for leaders
SPEAKER_00:even democracy for a government, but clearly for a more kind of autocratic reason.
SPEAKER_00:It's a gestalt, they don't really see a difference.
SPEAKER_00:Everything touches, everything is.
SPEAKER_00:And if some group that has kind of can talk to each other quickly, intelligently.
SPEAKER_00:give them advice, it's worth money.
SPEAKER_00:And for some of them, think of Kazakhstan, they can pay.
SPEAKER_00:In fact, they are paying.
SPEAKER_00:By now, they are paying for more than one channel.
SPEAKER_00:They want second opinion, third opinion, and a special opinion.
SPEAKER_00:They pay quite a lot of money.
SPEAKER_00:They have this money.
SPEAKER_00:For...
SPEAKER_00:They can consult.
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SPEAKER_00:Sometimes they see it as not just consulting all these sovereigns.
SPEAKER_00:They think that if they will choose the white people, they get certain edge in nothing.
SPEAKER_00:in active lobbying, but in helping them to find a way of navigating issues that they have with international bodies and with NGOs.
SPEAKER_00:And sometimes even to ask those advisors to find who could be the lobbyist.
SPEAKER_00:If they have to pass certain...
SPEAKER_00:I remember Nazarbayev came to me 10 years ago because he was isolated.
SPEAKER_00:He was frightened by some investigations.
SPEAKER_00:He was...
SPEAKER_00:I went from the United States, I believe, about some behaviors of his government.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes they need an access to the ECB, to the World Bank, to access... You have to be careful of this.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, I... You know, it's a little different...
SPEAKER_04:It's probably a little better.
SPEAKER_04:They probably need access to America more often than they need access to Israel.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but they rely more on the advice from Israel than on advice from America.
SPEAKER_00:Because Israel's problems are more like their problems.
SPEAKER_00:No, because Israel is small enough not to threaten.
SPEAKER_00:We are supposed to have good contacts all around the world.
SPEAKER_00:When I talked to the Mongolians, they asked me, can you talk to Putin?
SPEAKER_00:I said, yes.
SPEAKER_00:Can I talk to him?
SPEAKER_00:It's important for them.
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>>527877301
SPEAKER_00:Because there are certain, many antagonisms, and if a Russian would come to them, they would think that he works for Putin.
SPEAKER_00:If an American comes, they might find that they find themselves within a bigger game.
SPEAKER_00:So we have a certain kind of procedure of being connected in the world and not threatening anyone.
SPEAKER_04:And you have a...
SPEAKER_04:You have a sense of having been extraordinarily effective given your – I mean Israel has a sense of having been extraordinarily successful, effective, and strong given its location and its size.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And a human capital.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not sure whether you have the same human capital in Mongolia, but they know it as well.
SPEAKER_04:If you're a Mongolia or a Kazakhstan, I'd like to have a generation ahead like Israel had.
SPEAKER_04:natural way to think, whereas I'd like to have a generation like the United States.
SPEAKER_04:It's different.
SPEAKER_00:We are also a source of unique cutting-edge knowledge, Israel, in some issues which are extremely important for them.
SPEAKER_00:water processing and both disseminating reuse of water and even the effectiveness of use of it in agriculture in semi-aeroid and aeroid areas.
SPEAKER_00:We have the most sophisticated agriculture on Earth.
SPEAKER_00:The real point is that all players are Israeli so they sometimes take two kilograms of newly genetically manufactured seeds
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Dude what the fuck are you spamming no one is reading that shit
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>>527877319
SPEAKER_00:bring them to Cuba or some Angola or wherever, and within five years we have competitors.
SPEAKER_00:So we have to excel in running ahead of the wave in R&D.
SPEAKER_00:And we are doing it in agriculture.
SPEAKER_00:You know better than me that there's a need to probably double the food production within a generation or so without... You and I are going to tell them what seeds they want to use.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, not, but what the direction could be.
SPEAKER_00:The people who are going to tell them that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And there is... Jeffrey can tell us that there could be certain...
SPEAKER_00:kind of practical economic benefit from being able to be the one who point to them genuine, sincere players in certain area.
SPEAKER_00:But you know who are you going to recommend in advance.
SPEAKER_00:You can leverage this kind of... having the trust of a government.
SPEAKER_00:Like you meet Montenegro, Latvia, of course the Danish government doesn't need it.
SPEAKER_00:But all these governments which are not yet self-confident enough, they feel that they need it.
SPEAKER_00:They need experienced people.
SPEAKER_00:who doesn't lose sleep at night if they hear of major problems in some country, they face that issue.
SPEAKER_04:You're saying it's not India, but it is Mongolia, and maybe it's Sri Lanka, and maybe it's... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Out of the 194 nations, I can easily think that some 50.
SPEAKER_00:That's it, and we cannot work in 50 places.
SPEAKER_00:And some of them are quite potentially quite rich or with other potentials to create money that enables them to pay for it.
SPEAKER_00:They feel it or realize it.
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>Dude what the fuck are you spamming no one is reading that shit
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SPEAKER_00:There's no sense for us to go to lost places.
SPEAKER_04:Well, anyone who has natural resources has a way of...
SPEAKER_04:The natural resources are always under a kind of quasi-state control that's not quite the government.
SPEAKER_04:It's not like the government's kind of taking your taxpayers' money and giving it to somebody.
SPEAKER_04:It's that the state natural resources, whatever, that's where the money comes from.
SPEAKER_00:I do not exclude the possibility that in five years' time you will end up with decentralization of decision-making.
SPEAKER_00:in both China and India for different reasons through different mechanisms where you might find Chinese cities
SPEAKER_00:not just the provinces, but cities, with enough authority and enough resources to hire their advisors to operate, they basically think of themselves under the idea of centers of excellence.
SPEAKER_00:They look and they see we are just 400 Singaporeans.
SPEAKER_00:Basically it's the same ethnic background or even more advantages, more homogeneous.
SPEAKER_00:And if we can copy 400 times Singapore, we are the real success of the world.
SPEAKER_00:When you meet with Chinese mayors right now, first of all, some of them have population under control, which are medium-sized to big.
SPEAKER_00:They are bigger than most of the European countries, like Austria, Switzerland, and Denmark together.
SPEAKER_00:They're cities.
SPEAKER_00:I think.
SPEAKER_00:And they get more.
SPEAKER_00:That's part of the way of the Chinese to face the threat of losing control as a result of social...
SPEAKER_00:The whole transition...
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>>527877398
SPEAKER_00:it's not going to be a smooth way for them.
SPEAKER_00:And in order to fail, they try to anticipate and to find generic solutions, not to take us through processes that will smooth the heating of the problem.
SPEAKER_00:And India for different reasons, they come from another direction, but they also, you might find that in Indian states, they will get more...
SPEAKER_00:autonomous capability to take.
SPEAKER_00:They have the governor who is supposed to intervene on behalf of one thing, but it's only if things get wrong in an explicit way, illegal way, big scandals that come to the surface.
SPEAKER_00:So I think there is a lot of work.
SPEAKER_00:It could be fascinating because it's really, in a way, it's using what you accumulate all along your life to help real people facing real problems that you are acquainted with and they don't feel as confident.
SPEAKER_00:They draw both emotional kind of confidence and... No, it's a very good thing to do if one can find...
SPEAKER_02:I think once you...
SPEAKER_02:and not sort of hang out the shingle.
SPEAKER_02:They find you.
SPEAKER_02:They don't know where to go.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, they sort of... Who do I talk to?
SPEAKER_02:I've said by default that they talk to me, but it's by default.
SPEAKER_00:They read in The Economist the articles about them in order to try to find a hint about how they...
SPEAKER_02:It's wild.
SPEAKER_02:Now, you have to be sensitive.
SPEAKER_02:There's places like the Congo that have tremendous natural resources, but it's zero.
SPEAKER_02:You have to stay away.
SPEAKER_02:It's impossible.
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Just put it in a fucking catbox link or something and stop flooding the thread you retarded serbnigger
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>>527877430
SPEAKER_02:Rwanda, those African countries.
SPEAKER_02:So it's different than Mongolia.
SPEAKER_00:I met Kagemi.
SPEAKER_00:What's his name?
SPEAKER_00:The big basketball player.
SPEAKER_00:President of Rwanda.
SPEAKER_00:And I believe that...
SPEAKER_00:Tony Blair has given him a lot of advice.
SPEAKER_04:But Kagame, I don't know about Kagame.
SPEAKER_04:Kagame is, it feels like if you're the president of Rwanda, you should sometimes be in Rwanda.
SPEAKER_04:Judging by how often I meet him, going to one conference or another, he couldn't be spending very much time now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, in Rwanda.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but it's a way to avoid the stress of being all the time in Rwanda.
SPEAKER_02:But Rwanda has gas, but it's in the middle of the lake.
SPEAKER_04:Are there places in Africa?
SPEAKER_02:Which lake?
SPEAKER_02:I think Africa is in Missouri.
SPEAKER_02:Gagame said it's a gigantic gas field.
SPEAKER_02:But just like there's a place in... What's the problem?
SPEAKER_02:The Caspian Sea also is in the gut.
SPEAKER_02:You can't get it out of the country.
SPEAKER_02:Why?
SPEAKER_02:There's no infrastructure.
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SPEAKER_02:Well, in Africa, putting in even trains, half the time you put down the rails, you go to sleep, and the rails are gone because someone took it.
SPEAKER_04:Is there any place in Africa that you think has a prospect?
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_04:Really?
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:You think no?
SPEAKER_02:Angola, maybe.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Let me be less cavalier.
SPEAKER_00:South Africa is going to be a major economic power.
SPEAKER_00:It goes very slowly.
SPEAKER_00:South Africa?
SPEAKER_02:I think the concept is over some 30 years, maybe.
SPEAKER_02:But I think there are easier, there's low-hanging fruit.
SPEAKER_02:Like Kazakhstan.
SPEAKER_02:Kazakhstan's a perfect example.
SPEAKER_02:There's $80 billion in sovereign wealth.
SPEAKER_02:They would like to be part of the Western world.
SPEAKER_02:It's the big things to be seen, to have human rights.
SPEAKER_02:They want to be part of the financial system.
SPEAKER_02:Part of it is that they don't want to be embarrassed.
SPEAKER_02:That's clear.
SPEAKER_02:So when they want to talk to someone, they want to know there's discretion and good advice so they can at least take credit for their decisions.
SPEAKER_02:So those are easier places.
SPEAKER_02:So in Africa, maybe, but very hard work, I think.
SPEAKER_02:What about South America?
SPEAKER_02:It's Venezuela at the moment.
SPEAKER_02:You know, Chavez dies in the next...
SPEAKER_02:I had a whole bunch of the oil guys here.
SPEAKER_02:It's the... Monstrous proven reserves.
SPEAKER_02:Lots of things to do.
SPEAKER_02:Little... Once Chavez goes and the financial system, they devalued their currency last week.
SPEAKER_02:32%.
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>>527877547
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So...
SPEAKER_02:They had three exchange rates.
SPEAKER_02:Now they only have two exchange rates.
SPEAKER_02:But they don't have an economy.
SPEAKER_00:But they have Dudamel.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, that's the only thing.
SPEAKER_00:One of the best conductors on earth.
SPEAKER_00:The young Venezuelan.
SPEAKER_02:So I think there's plenty of places.
SPEAKER_02:China is a different thing because there's a cultural... You have a better... You both have a great issue in China because it gives them face.
SPEAKER_02:to talk to you or to you.
SPEAKER_02:So that they feel... And if you went to see them for a day and you left the country, you never want to stay there.
SPEAKER_02:Because if you go and you leave, they can tell all their friends that you came just to see them.
SPEAKER_00:So that's a... What about Azerbaijan?
SPEAKER_02:Same thing.
SPEAKER_00:And I remember his father.
SPEAKER_00:His father was a communist KGB kind of representative in a place, head of the communist party.
SPEAKER_00:And now the son took over when the father died.
SPEAKER_00:It's a kind of run like a family business.
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Thanks for the dump, anon. I listened to 55 minutes, I think this is more or less around the time I stopped. Are you going to post all of it? I'll definitely come back later.

>SPEAKER_04:I was burning to become Secretary of the Treasury.
Epstein was absolutely fucking delusional and a clown.
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>>527851800
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>527877591
you welcome
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>>527852954
No dumbass it shows him playing shit after he's supposedly dead. That's pulled from an active database. Yo
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>>527877587
SPEAKER_00:I met their minister of foreign affairs.
SPEAKER_00:It ended up that he's not just my most preferred colleague, but also the best friend he has in Israel is Avigdor Lieberman.
SPEAKER_00:Is that right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But Israelis are making a lot of business.
SPEAKER_02:I think once you set it up, once people understand that you're really in business, you have to choose which is the right place.
SPEAKER_02:And you can charge a lot of money.
SPEAKER_00:I think there is an opportunity.
SPEAKER_00:And if you don't create a huge overhead, do not pretend to run operations to secure oil fields, you point them to companies.
SPEAKER_00:There are many in Israel, some in America.
SPEAKER_00:Some would not like to have an American company running, but something from a smaller country.
SPEAKER_02:Well, what have you found most interesting?
SPEAKER_02:You've been out now for how long?
SPEAKER_02:A year?
SPEAKER_04:I've been out two years.
SPEAKER_04:I've been out about two years and I would say two most interesting things have been being on the boards of a couple of high tech companies.
SPEAKER_04:You just have a sense that you're seeing people who are creating something new and they're young and they're vigorous and there's a sense of energy and being an adult you can
SPEAKER_04:you can add something.
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>>527877658
SPEAKER_04:So I've enjoyed being with Hendrys and Horowitz and being on the board of Square.
SPEAKER_04:That's been good.
SPEAKER_04:And I've enjoyed, I do a couple hedge, I advise a couple hedge funds.
SPEAKER_04:And that's interesting because you sort of hear what the people, you have a sense of what the people
SPEAKER_04:as well and then I do a bunch of sort of speaking and gibbosing and stuff on a variety of things which is fine but is less is less sort of exciting and and stimulating well if opportunities materialize I don't think you can quite hang out the shingle and say country doctor but
SPEAKER_02:It has a new meaning now, access on country.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but access into country can, in certain countries, create a leverage to make a lot of money for a long time.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes you can just bring together a leading major kind of mining company with a leading place to mine whatever they look for and just agree with them on a...
SPEAKER_00:Extremely small, small, small percentage or promillage or whatever they are doing.
SPEAKER_00:But as long as the operation is there, you might end up quite living quite.
SPEAKER_00:It also has its value.
SPEAKER_02:But has something in the past two years gotten you excited in the adrenaline?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he said to work with the young people.
SPEAKER_02:That's what I said.
SPEAKER_02:Has Square been the most thing?
SPEAKER_04:Square's probably been the thing.
SPEAKER_04:That you look forward to going out there?
SPEAKER_04:I look forward to... Yeah, I look forward to going out there, but it's not that I... No, I really do look forward to when we're going out there and when they call.
SPEAKER_04:Like, that's going to be interesting and I'm glad they called.
SPEAKER_04:It's not quite that...
SPEAKER_04:I'm thinking about it every night before I go.
SPEAKER_04:Before I go.
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>>527877683
SPEAKER_04:Before I go.
SPEAKER_04:It's not quite at the level of I'm thinking about it every night before I go to sleep.
SPEAKER_04:In part because, you know, a lot of what it is is like developing better psychology and all that.
SPEAKER_04:It's not what I do.
SPEAKER_00:Think of it.
SPEAKER_00:It's one of your edges as well.
SPEAKER_00:At the same time.
SPEAKER_00:Because...
SPEAKER_00:part of what they needed, someone who's experienced enough to look at it in somewhat, a little bit more detached manner, be able to judge, or avoid a kind of over-enthusiasm that sometimes blinds them to where they're heading, or what could be the consequence.
SPEAKER_00:That's where you can end, because you have much more... No, judgment, wisdom, and I'm able to say...
SPEAKER_04:I'm able to say to anybody that doesn't seem quite right when lots of people spend their lives surrounded by people who will never say to them that's not that's not quite right that's not quite right so I like the things where you're
SPEAKER_04:engaged with more young people.
SPEAKER_04:And I'm sure in Israel there must be a ton of that.
SPEAKER_00:Israel is a fascinating place.
SPEAKER_00:for an eruption of entrepreneurial spirit and young people.
SPEAKER_00:It's very typical to find the best two kind of desilons of the population coming out of the workforce.
SPEAKER_00:Some of them are spending their time in the workforce.
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>>527877694
SPEAKER_00:in activities which are basically R&D or kind of startup kind of operations without economic side to it.
SPEAKER_00:And they come, they jump energetically.
SPEAKER_00:There is a buzz.
SPEAKER_00:You know, it's a...
SPEAKER_04:Are you going to live in Israel or are you going to live in New York?
SPEAKER_00:It's a good question.
SPEAKER_00:I basically live in Israel, but I am extremely fascinated by going out and seeing the world.
SPEAKER_00:And to be in many places.
SPEAKER_00:So I don't feel any kind of problem of spending most of my time out of the country.
SPEAKER_00:That's what is fascinating.
SPEAKER_00:But you're home.
SPEAKER_00:You're going to make your home in Tel Aviv rather than in London or in New York.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you can fly.
SPEAKER_00:I don't have a problem if I have to spend a full two months in New York.
SPEAKER_00:Take some place in a hotel or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Or in London or in another place.
SPEAKER_02:Before you go, what's your sense of the economy?
SPEAKER_02:What do you think is going on now?
SPEAKER_04:I think the best guess is that we're turning around the corner.
SPEAKER_04:We're turning a bit.
SPEAKER_04:I think as Jeffrey and I were discussing before, I think there's a wall of money coming into the U.S. A wall of?
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>>527877721
SPEAKER_04:A wall of money.
SPEAKER_04:coming in just a gigantic amount of money stock market you know i have been it's interesting i have been thinking to myself two months ago the interest rate the adjusted for inflation for 10 years is negative stocks are pretty cheap
SPEAKER_04:Why isn't anybody with the right mind borrowing money to buy stocks?
SPEAKER_04:And so there should be a lot of deal activity.
SPEAKER_04:And now, sure enough, in the last month, there's Dow.
SPEAKER_00:But Dell is not typical.
SPEAKER_00:Somehow he's doing it himself with some... Who?
SPEAKER_00:Dell.
SPEAKER_04:Dell is not typical, but Heinz is typical.
SPEAKER_00:Heinz.
SPEAKER_00:The ketchup.
SPEAKER_00:Carrie is correct.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and you saw what just happened.
SPEAKER_04:She saw it?
SPEAKER_04:I don't think she ever, I think she's pretty much out of it, but the...
SPEAKER_04:And a Brazilian beer guy just paying $23 million to buy it.
SPEAKER_04:And the mining companies are all getting bought up.
SPEAKER_04:How could you not do it?
SPEAKER_02:When interest rates are this low, how can you not go into the takeover business?
SPEAKER_02:I mean, not me.
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>>527877748
SPEAKER_04:And I think it's starting to happen.
SPEAKER_04:So I think that that plus...
SPEAKER_04:is turning plus the fact that while everybody's hysterical about the dysfunctionality of our government, the truth is we're a pretty dynamic society and our government doesn't usually do insane things.
SPEAKER_00:in Europe.
SPEAKER_00:But for how long?
SPEAKER_00:Because in September there is election in Germany.
SPEAKER_00:I talked to Shaoble and Demesier.
SPEAKER_00:Demesier is my colleague, but he was advisor to the chancellor for a long time.
SPEAKER_00:Shaoble, I know him from before he was shot.
SPEAKER_00:From before?
SPEAKER_00:Before he was shot.
SPEAKER_00:He's now in a wheelchair.
SPEAKER_00:I still remember him walking with his feet.
SPEAKER_00:from both.
SPEAKER_00:I got the impression that Germany cannot do anything, politically speaking.
SPEAKER_00:They cannot do anything by throwing some short-term, immediate small pieces to the Spanish or Italians or the Greeks in order not to break the whole thing before.
SPEAKER_00:But then after they can.
SPEAKER_00:But once, yeah, but after they can and basically they will because they are not doing a favor for the rest of Europe.
SPEAKER_04:people are still getting old they still don't want to work very hard and it's not very innovative so I think that southern Europe is going to become like southern Europe to Europe will be like southern Italy to Italy poor
SPEAKER_04:Not very competitive.
SPEAKER_04:Lots of people not working.
SPEAKER_04:Dependent, but stable.
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>>527877765
SPEAKER_04:And so I think, I now think the odds that the euro will, who knows what will happen.
SPEAKER_04:is very, very high.
SPEAKER_04:But I think the odds that Europe will be a dynamic place are not very high.
SPEAKER_00:It means that ultimately culture matters.
SPEAKER_00:The Mediterranean culture is inferior to the kind of Scandinavia,
SPEAKER_00:post-reformation kind of answer.
SPEAKER_04:You know, maybe the cultures vary and they work well for 50-year periods and theirs isn't.
SPEAKER_04:But I don't know about Japan.
SPEAKER_04:I think it's an island full of people getting old.
SPEAKER_04:You know, the last thing they invented that was any good was the Walkman.
SPEAKER_04:That was a long time ago.
SPEAKER_04:And so I think that they're probably going to try to pump up and print a lot of money.
SPEAKER_00:But is Abe a serious guy?
SPEAKER_00:I don't think so.
SPEAKER_00:Because last time that he was in power he was not serious.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think so.
SPEAKER_04:I think he's, from everything I hear and read, I don't think he's a hugely serious guy.
SPEAKER_04:are betting that the yen's going down and that the Japanese stock market's going up I have gotten more confidence that the yen's going down over the medium run than I do that the Japanese stock market's going up I think if there is a if there's a pulse in trade
SPEAKER_04:you know, like Paulson, the guy who made... Yeah, yeah, Paulson.
SPEAKER_04:If there's a...
SPEAKER_00:The one from the mortgage-backed security.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00:Go up and then fell down.
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>>527877784
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_04:If there's a trade like that in the next three years, I think it's short the Japanese long bond.
SPEAKER_05:I agree.
SPEAKER_04:Because I think that maybe they'll recover, in which case they'll stop having 10-year bonds at 70 basis points.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe they'll have inflation, in which case they'll stop having long bonds at 70 basis points.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe they'll decide that they can't really fix their problems at all.
SPEAKER_04:in which case people will start to worry about whether they're going to get repaid, in which case they won't be at 70 basis points.
SPEAKER_04:So it seems to me that they're likely... What is 70 basis points?
SPEAKER_04:The spread of Japanese... That's the law.
SPEAKER_04:For 10 years, the interest rate is 70 basis points.
SPEAKER_02:But it's been that way for a while.
SPEAKER_02:Long time.
SPEAKER_04:But they make...
SPEAKER_04:It's been very long.
SPEAKER_02:Very, very long.
SPEAKER_02:I think five years ago people would have said the same thing.
SPEAKER_00:The widow makers, what they call the trade.
SPEAKER_00:Correct.
SPEAKER_00:But they already have for a long time, they have some 200% of the debt.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_00:So that's why...
SPEAKER_00:They keep pouring money into this.
SPEAKER_00:I agree with you.
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>>527877805
SPEAKER_04:So that's why I said that if there is a success...
SPEAKER_04:It will be that.
SPEAKER_04:And, you know, when the last time they were crazy, there were more people who thought their stock market was nuts when it was at 25,000 than there were who thought it was nuts at 35,000 because the people...
SPEAKER_04:Because by the time it got to $35,000, everybody had taken their crack at thinking that it was nuts and been wiped out.
SPEAKER_04:And so they thought they didn't understand and maybe it would keep going.
SPEAKER_04:And that's a little bit how the Japanese bond feels to me right now.
SPEAKER_00:But tell me, Larry, we're more to worry about inflation as a result of all this supply of wider money, I don't know, or deflation.
SPEAKER_00:What's more, Friday, worrying for you?
SPEAKER_04:For the last four years, I've been very confident that it was deflation.
SPEAKER_04:You know, as time passes, I move my view.
SPEAKER_04:I am still more worried about slowdown than I am about a big increase in inflation in the United States.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think...
SPEAKER_04:I don't think countries don't get big increases in inflation without labor demanding wage increases and tight labor markets and all of that.
SPEAKER_04:And I don't see any of that coming in the United States.
SPEAKER_04:My friend Stan Fisher did a good job in Israel.
SPEAKER_00:according to most observers, very popular.
SPEAKER_00:He is extremely popular.
SPEAKER_00:People believe that he solved it, saved us from major disasters, and he is highly appreciated in the country.
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>>527877805
Dude, just upload a PDF on Catbox.
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>>527877818
SPEAKER_00:But there are here and there a few quite...
SPEAKER_00:important players in the financial markets who think differently.
SPEAKER_00:That he did accumulate too much, he did not invest in the right time in gold.
SPEAKER_00:The whole running of the... because he raised the reserves from 20 billion to 80 billion, major
SPEAKER_00:better if we would have invested more in gold or put much more capable people to run this Nostro.
SPEAKER_00:It's a huge Nostro to run this money somehow even without gambling.
SPEAKER_00:And some even argue that probably did identify.
SPEAKER_00:too late that what the Swiss have done with their weight could be done with the shekel.
SPEAKER_00:So for some time he appeared as if he believed that you cannot fight the market when in reality you can fight it on one side.
SPEAKER_00:If you are so popular that everyone wants to buy you.
SPEAKER_00:So there is certain critics among
SPEAKER_00:more sophisticated players, but basically the feeling is in flying colors.
SPEAKER_00:He's going to leave in a short time.
SPEAKER_04:That was my impression that he had done very good, that he had been very successful.
SPEAKER_00:I like him very much.
SPEAKER_00:He's sincere.
SPEAKER_00:He's very sensitive.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Respectful.
SPEAKER_00:He thinks slow but kind of in a systematic manner.
SPEAKER_00:Avoid kind of gambling.
SPEAKER_00:That's very important to our collective character.
SPEAKER_04:He said that he is, there's this phrase, a safe pair of hands.
SPEAKER_04:A safe pair of hands.
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>>527850072
The account is actively playing Fortnite as of last year
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>>527877823
there is NO pdf of this (EFTA01621008.mov) audio conversation!
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>>527877833
SPEAKER_04:He gives very much the feeling of being a safe pair of hands.
SPEAKER_04:The thing about the I think it goes to something you were talking about.
SPEAKER_04:All over the world
SPEAKER_04:in U.S. Treasuries that pay zero.
SPEAKER_04:Or even negative.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04:And everybody ought to be investing their stuff more aggressively in... Yeah, but that's the scars from the recent events.
SPEAKER_00:People lose their...
SPEAKER_00:It's like a hair.
SPEAKER_00:They lose their self-confidence very easily.
SPEAKER_00:And what happened in the crisis, actually, we could not predict this and no one warned us.
SPEAKER_00:Loudly enough, so probably now it's...
SPEAKER_00:Immediately they're frozen.
SPEAKER_00:It's human nature.
SPEAKER_00:That sounds right.
SPEAKER_02:I'm going to spend some time with Ehud.
SPEAKER_02:I'll see you tomorrow morning at 10.
SPEAKER_02:I'm picking you up at 10 in the morning.
SPEAKER_04:You're picking me up at 10 in the morning?
SPEAKER_04:I will see you then.
SPEAKER_04:Excellent.
SPEAKER_04:Ehud, this was very good.
SPEAKER_04:It was very good to see you.
SPEAKER_04:He's going to be a free man.
SPEAKER_00:In three weeks, I hope.
SPEAKER_00:I contemplate setting a departure ceremony and set a time, a day and time, because I'm afraid that under certain tricky developments there will be no new government and we'll go to another election and that's...
SPEAKER_00:You know, theoretically it's possible, but I don't want to find myself stuck.
SPEAKER_00:Great to see you.
SPEAKER_00:Very nice to see you.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You're very good at this.
SPEAKER_04:I appreciate it.
It's a nuance.
No, I will...
There's so many guys who should be here.
So, it's probably my mission more than anybody else's.
There's no reason to say it.
I mean, you wouldn't.
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>>527877891
You wouldn't.
You wouldn't.
You wouldn't.
That's the... That's the point.
I don't know.
For example, .
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:More tea, sir?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, more tea, if you please.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_03:Did you guys know what I was doing?
SPEAKER_00:He's a great mind.
SPEAKER_00:Extremely, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I like him very much.
SPEAKER_00:Extremely sophisticated, clever, wise person.
SPEAKER_00:But what do you think?
SPEAKER_00:He has the appetite to grow.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah?
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, that's good.
SPEAKER_00:I believe that's a very good name.
SPEAKER_00:That's one of the ideas that I kind of exchanged with Terry.
SPEAKER_00:Terry, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I think it could be really interesting if we find a way to work together to make probably a pilot on one or two of them.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Look, Larry is not liked by any... What he said, I said that you were going to come to dinner, and he said, did you read the article on foreign affairs?
SPEAKER_01:Ah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And he read it?
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
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>>527877865
Make one, dummy. There's 3 and a half hours worth of audio on here.
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>>527877912
SPEAKER_02:He said to me, did you read the article on foreign affairs?
SPEAKER_02:And what did he say about it?
SPEAKER_02:I said, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He said, well, what did you think?
SPEAKER_02:I said, I didn't like it very much.
SPEAKER_02:He said, well, I come at it from a different angle.
SPEAKER_02:He said, I didn't like it, but I identify because they say everything they say about him, they say about me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Let's go through, I want to, I thought we would start earlier, but I hope we have enough patience.
SPEAKER_00:I have patience and I have time.
SPEAKER_00:I want to go with you through a variety of opportunities that were proposed, different levels of concreteness.
SPEAKER_00:But I find that
SPEAKER_00:I want to hear your advice before I try to focus on an order of priority and probably to have your judgment on some of them and what it means.
SPEAKER_00:Now, probably unlike David and Larry, I can find fascinating, adrenaline and satisfaction in just making money.
SPEAKER_00:I knew that.
SPEAKER_00:I already knew that.
SPEAKER_00:I will spend it.
SPEAKER_00:I will have the real adrenaline.
SPEAKER_00:It's not for making, it's for spending it.
SPEAKER_00:Spending it cleverly around the world.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
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>>527877926
can I ask you to denounce talmud first?
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>>527877933
SPEAKER_00:I want to start with what I brought you here.
SPEAKER_00:I brought you here a document of...
SPEAKER_00:The German takeover.
SPEAKER_00:The German supposedly sophisticated takeover group.
SPEAKER_00:that I was one of the founders of, and according to the real achievements that they had, according to this record, are those that they have made when I was still there.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know what they have done since then, probably they won some court trial about some
SPEAKER_00:deal that they were involved in, and they were bypassed at the last moment.
SPEAKER_00:Probably the deal never materialized.
SPEAKER_00:It had to be with some sub-unit of Deutsche Telekom that operates here, T-Mobile, that was taken by AT&T, but in a way that was...
SPEAKER_00:The way to bypass them was by acting much more aggressively.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:And by this aggressive action, they raised the attention of the authorities, the regulators here, and somehow it was blocked.
SPEAKER_00:But they kind of had still a complaint, and probably they got some 30 million or whatever from this complaint, and they ran themselves off since then.
SPEAKER_00:Probably there are some areas that I don't know of, but basically I see something which reminds me very much what we had in mind six years ago.
SPEAKER_00:when I left them as I entered the... Read it and try to get...
SPEAKER_00:Ask me whatever question.
SPEAKER_00:I know the people, I know... Who's the principal?
SPEAKER_02:Who's the main person?
SPEAKER_00:Originally, it was four people.
SPEAKER_00:One named Philip Scholler.
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>>527877933
If Epstein pal Ehud Barak was running against Bibi, does this mean Bibi was in a Mossad faction that Jeffrey Epstein opposed? Is Bibi actually/ourguy?
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>>527877986
SPEAKER_00:You will find all the details about it.
SPEAKER_02:Who do you like the most?
SPEAKER_02:Who do you have the best... No, no.
SPEAKER_00:I have with the two... We were five people.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Philip Scholler, Christoph Bulfon, who's a lawyer, another entrepreneurial kind of guy, Hubertus Hoffman, Dr. Hoffman, and German origin Canadian guy.
SPEAKER_01:And at the moment, do they have any money?
SPEAKER_01:Named...
SPEAKER_01:Allow me to... What is it?
SPEAKER_00:I will remind you in a moment.
SPEAKER_00:And we were basically four of us.
SPEAKER_00:We started a German corporation.
SPEAKER_00:Registers in the islands, BVI.
SPEAKER_00:You will read it.
SPEAKER_00:You will find it.
SPEAKER_00:Basically, the idea was the following.
SPEAKER_00:There is suppressed value within the DAX leading companies, from the biggest to the smallest, leading DAX companies, because of three elements.
SPEAKER_00:One is the nature of governance of companies in Germany, with these double, two layers of...
SPEAKER_00:a board which slows down dramatically and spreads the decision power and capability to take decisions.
SPEAKER_00:Secondly, the deep involvement of unions that are participants of the board and you can practically not move without them.
SPEAKER_00:And then passive shareholders.
SPEAKER_00:There is nothing like ICANN or whatever here.
SPEAKER_00:extremely passive.
SPEAKER_00:Now, how do you know it's suppressed?
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>>527878001
SPEAKER_00:You take any company, take BASF and compare it to DuPont or whatever, a similar sized company, you will end up German company is half the market cap.
SPEAKER_00:Take any, I don't know, insurance big company, compare it to
SPEAKER_00:then you choose companies finance other activities and you will end up that much lower but even if you compare them to any successful North American companies and do the same with every in every aspect and
SPEAKER_00:In fact, that's the case.
SPEAKER_00:They are much lower now.
SPEAKER_00:In order to do something with it, you have to change it.
SPEAKER_00:The idea is that you can easily take, by the rules, if you get 10% of the stock of a company, you become practically the owner of the company.
SPEAKER_00:You can call a special...
SPEAKER_00:General Assembly of the whole shareholding, and you can nominate a director, you can change the nature of it.
SPEAKER_00:Usually it doesn't work.
SPEAKER_00:If you are German, they look at you in quite a bizarre way.
SPEAKER_00:If you are non-German, they will go...
SPEAKER_00:So the idea is to establish a...
SPEAKER_00:And this group you will see
SPEAKER_00:and everything, they have a lot of informal, internal information about what happens, including when we, I remember fighting with Volkswagen before Kirch went over, and with Deutsche Telekom, when we were continuously acquainted with what really happens in any board meeting afterwards and so on.
SPEAKER_00:So to establish a Luxembourg or whatever operation for any given project, and let's say you typically might need...
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>>527877823
The transcriber's note is all wrong, though. It would be nice to have it fixed, but it's a hell of a lot of work. I think it's Ehud Barak, Epstein and some other guy.
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>>527850777
Even in death I grind
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>>527877971
Why would asking you to make a PDF make me Jewish lol?
Upload a PDF and we will discuss it.
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>>527877999
>Is Bibi actually/ourguy?

LOL, sure he is!
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>>527878131
denounce talmud?
write GOD name (its Yahweh btw)..
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>>527878021
SPEAKER_00:one billion in equity, another one billion in debt to create 10% of a company with a market cap of 20 billion and start to operate.
SPEAKER_00:You will need more if it's a bigger company, but usually it's a relatively small market.
SPEAKER_00:Think of Munich Re.
SPEAKER_00:Very huge potential of money like Berkshire Hathaway but probably making 4 billion per year on 200 billion of assets.
SPEAKER_00:So by just making not very good insurer but good manager of assets you can do more.
SPEAKER_00:That's the idea.
SPEAKER_00:Now they want to find players
SPEAKER_00:or think that whether we can find players who are ready and capable after they understand they can be behind this SPV, probably having convertible kind of bonds with the SPV.
SPEAKER_02:Let me stop you for a second.
SPEAKER_02:It's much more important when you initially describe these things, the structure of where and whether SPVs or it's in Luxembourg, BVI, it doesn't mean anything to me.
SPEAKER_02:The only thing you need to focus on now when you're talking about these types of businesses are the numbers.
SPEAKER_02:So that the numbers are the numbers are the numbers.
SPEAKER_02:Nothing else is going to make a difference.
SPEAKER_02:So you need to tell me five things.
SPEAKER_02:A, have they performed before and what's their returns?
SPEAKER_02:Because structurally it's different.
SPEAKER_02:You will find two examples.
SPEAKER_00:I was there.
SPEAKER_00:And I will add to that.
SPEAKER_00:If you have to ask me whether they are extremely successful till now, my answer is no.
SPEAKER_00:Otherwise, they are rich people, all of them.
SPEAKER_02:What do they want from you?
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>>527878238
SPEAKER_02:So I want to know the numbers, and what do they want from you?
SPEAKER_00:So those are my two biggest goals.
SPEAKER_00:numbers you will find the idea to take anything from a small small DAX company could be taken over by putting 300 probably 300 equity and 300 debt you have 600 million you can take over the very big one you might need 3.5 billion in
SPEAKER_00:and 3.5 billion in equity, which enables you to take even diamonds.
SPEAKER_00:In fact, the only one who did what GCG has as a vision
SPEAKER_00:is Ferdinand Pirch when he took over Volkswagen.
SPEAKER_00:He ran ahead of us.
SPEAKER_00:We had been here trying to convince several big private equity companies and hedge funds to do exactly what he had done.
SPEAKER_00:They were much slower, but he's several generations there.
SPEAKER_00:have already had a strong hold within the company, probably identified the opportunity, but he extracted clearly a real jump that still holds several years before, five, six years after.
SPEAKER_00:Basically, think what Peer have done with Volkswagen and you will get a sense of what they claim, whether they did it or not.
SPEAKER_00:That's probably the reason why they want me.
SPEAKER_00:They want me to be able to somehow help them, to convince somehow for whom these amounts of money are not frightening.
SPEAKER_00:If we convince, for example, the sovereign fund of Singapore or the Emirates or China to be with us or even a major Russian.
SPEAKER_00:To be with us, the GCG provides the front in Luxembourg, and they are behind it.
SPEAKER_00:Because if some sovereign fund will take over a major tax company, it could end up politically...
SPEAKER_02:But they want you to go to the sovereign funds?
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>>527878260
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, to help them to convince the sovereign fund.
SPEAKER_00:extremely rich individuals.
SPEAKER_00:Like Tom Pritzker, for example.
SPEAKER_02:I just wrote down Tom's name because I talked to him this morning.
SPEAKER_00:Probably a guy that can, if he wants, to take over a major...
SPEAKER_02:I understand.
SPEAKER_02:But what is your real advantage for them?
SPEAKER_02:The fact that you know rich people and the fact that you have open access...
SPEAKER_00:I can open the door.
SPEAKER_00:I can access.
SPEAKER_00:I can be there.
SPEAKER_00:I can't.
SPEAKER_00:Actually, you're the door opener.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, in a way.
SPEAKER_00:And yeah, someone that they respect, it gives them certain respect, as you said about the blue...
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_00:So, basically, that's the way.
SPEAKER_00:And they know me and they trust me because we work together.
SPEAKER_00:I help them to...
SPEAKER_00:Bruce Kovner and to Leon Bleck and to others and start to see what they are in.
SPEAKER_00:For example, they work very hard to convince Russians and they failed until now.
SPEAKER_00:And I think that probably I can convince one of the guys, think of two of the guys that get now in BP10K.
SPEAKER_00:together they got some four of them they got some 28 billion they have to put it somewhere you know the story with germany is quite clear it's the best performing operation on the manufacturing flow and a very slow not creative on the top right but look but germany's always traded a discount
SPEAKER_02:to the states.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not sure the comparison of German company valuations and earnings price is an issue with taxes and unions.
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>>527878181
We're Bibi and Epstein buddies? Why isn't Bibi in the Epstein files? Was Bibi the redacted name giving orders out to Jeffrey? What exactly is going on in the rotten state of Israel?
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>>527878272
SPEAKER_02:You can't fire people there so easily.
SPEAKER_02:But my concern is that they want you to open the door, I understand.
SPEAKER_02:It's not really your expertise.
SPEAKER_02:I understand.
SPEAKER_02:Your capabilities, I think you're going to make a lot of money.
SPEAKER_02:See, you're going to make a lot of money.
SPEAKER_02:You're definitely going to make a lot of money.
SPEAKER_02:You will.
SPEAKER_02:You're definitely going to make a lot of money.
SPEAKER_02:You will make money.
SPEAKER_02:The question is which place you do it with.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, look.
SPEAKER_00:I will show, after you read it, I will show the concrete proposal that they sent to me.
SPEAKER_00:They gave an example.
SPEAKER_00:They said, we are ready.
SPEAKER_00:We are going to get when we put the money.
SPEAKER_00:Assume for a moment you succeed in bringing us someone who can put $1 billion in equity for some project.
SPEAKER_00:Big enough.
SPEAKER_00:Think, for example, of the China investment company.
SPEAKER_00:They run probably $400 billion.
SPEAKER_00:They can afford doing it.
SPEAKER_00:Assume that we can
SPEAKER_00:I understand.
SPEAKER_00:Out of the $2 billion, we got 3%.
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>>527878294
SPEAKER_00:I understand.
SPEAKER_00:We are ready to give you $12 million.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Out of the $60 million we get immediately, and then smaller amounts down the road.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So what Tom asked me this morning, and he said he told you at Davos, was he thought you should make a list of his work.
SPEAKER_02:Metrics, as I told you.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, but who has IOUs to you?
SPEAKER_02:Is that... Who's the... Out of the people in the past who you think you're close to, he said that he really wanted you to make this list of...
SPEAKER_02:This person owes me a favor.
SPEAKER_02:This person owes me his life.
SPEAKER_02:This person owes me his job.
SPEAKER_02:This person owes me... Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02:And so you've got to work it backwards...
SPEAKER_02:and say, instead of thinking about what the opportunities are first, because right now you're focused on opportunities.
SPEAKER_02:I need you to focus on your personal balance sheet in terms of competences.
SPEAKER_02:What's your real strengths?
SPEAKER_02:One of the liabilities is you're 71 years old, so you can't be in a business that takes 20 years to make money.
SPEAKER_02:We have to make money in the next three years.
SPEAKER_02:So, people, competence, things.
SPEAKER_02:I talked to Ian yesterday.
SPEAKER_02:I asked him to come.
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here's another see here
https://apex.tracker.gg/apex/profile/origin/littlestjeff1/overview

if you do a player search for littlestjeff1 from the main page, the account still appears as an option, but 404s when you click. looks like it was recently scrubbed.
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>>527878314
SPEAKER_02:He flew in London for an hour.
SPEAKER_02:What was his impression from the...
SPEAKER_02:So, same thing.
SPEAKER_02:He's very connected to Samsung.
SPEAKER_02:Very.
SPEAKER_02:Samsung.
SPEAKER_02:Samsung.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Very.
SPEAKER_02:They pay him $3 million a year.
SPEAKER_02:Just to make PL?
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:He has 10 companies like that now.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So, he said there's this company called Lookout.
SPEAKER_02:He said he mentioned it to you.
SPEAKER_02:L-O-O-K-N-U-T?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He thinks they'll pay you a couple million dollars to be on the board.
SPEAKER_01:That would be good.
SPEAKER_01:I understood.
SPEAKER_02:He thought there was two cyber companies.
SPEAKER_02:Look out.
SPEAKER_02:I've never met Peter Thiel.
SPEAKER_02:And everybody says he sort of jumps around and acts strange, like he's on drugs.
SPEAKER_00:Smoking, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:He looks under drugs.
SPEAKER_02:However, he has a company called Palantir.
SPEAKER_02:P-A-L-L-E-N.
SPEAKER_02:T-I-E-R. Palantir is Peter Thiel's company.
SPEAKER_02:And look out.
SPEAKER_00:Palantir.
SPEAKER_00:P-A-L-A-N-T-I-E-R?
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
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>>527878181
Also, if it was a covert conversation, how was this quote obtained, who verified it and why did Bibi pose for this 666 handsign photo for it?



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