Chinksisters, I don't feel so good...https://interestingengineering.com/military/batwing-like-navy-fighter-concept
>>527937028
what's even the point of manned fighter jets when drone technology exists?
>>527937028My Gid, we'd be laughed off the world stage if we deployed something that hideous.
>>527937028>The US has become the Vanu Sovereignty
>>527937165Drones short circuit at high G-forces while human pilots lock in and keep their head in the game
>>527937230bullshit
>>527937028That's the 6th gen plane not a 7th gen one.Also i don't think the company understands that it needs to fit on a carrier.
>>527937165Drones can get intercepted. Notice how all drones in Ukraine have fiber optic wires attached to them.
>>527937165PEOPLE CAN FLY
>>527937207youre a faggot for caring about cute a jet looks and i jerk off to femboys
>>527937028whoa imagine how many impoverished villages you can ruin with that thing
>>527937230>humans outperform machines at high Gwhich is why every supersonic missile has a small Thai ladyboy inside, piloting it.
>>527937165Human beans cannot be jammed, spoofed or hacked. They are also remarkably resilient against heat, cold and vibrations. They are also able to think critically and make calculated decisions based on a wide variety of inputs, values and considerations. If anything, the defense industry thinks human pilots are the superior choice in pretty much every situation worth consideration. Automation is simply not suited for complex situations and introduces more error points, not less.
>>527937403I'm sorry, but F-15s in NATO Woodland camo are pure sex.
>>527937207she's got a big pussy.
Closer every day
>>527937028>literally looks like a stereotypical pitchforkFitting
>>5279375904 u
there are men capable of constructing military jets that could move at 4 times the speed of sound but we are ruled over by "elites" that can't spell simple words.
>>527937515warwick davis actually
>>527937028I wanna see it in a wind tunnel
>>527937689lmao
>>527937165>>527937297The future seems to be fighter pilots with a wingman along with a swarm of drone fighters/bombers they can control. Machines can be built to withstand far more g forces than any human can handle but having a human with brains and eyeballs in the sky will always have more situational awareness.
>>527937028Holy blyat that mig-25 is falling apart!
All I see is a massive stress and fatigue point
>>527937719They don't call it a warhead for nothing.
>>527937028Are they just inventing new generation numbers in the "nuh-uh" game?
>>527937028>PS2 graphics
>>527937165Unmanned flight is gay
>>527937578>human beans cannot be jammedwhat about those death rays the US used in venezuela that made everyone vomit and shit their pants at the same timesurely you could aim that at a plane too
>>527937028>doesnt fly in spacenot a 7th gen
>>527937515small thai ladyboys you say?
>>527938081That was the traditional problem with forward swept wings, yes
Su 47 is older than us.
>Stavatti Aerospace Ltd. is an American company headquartered in Niagara Falls, New YorkWhat the fuck, is Niagara Falls not in Canada?
>>527937028>>527937207That has got to be a jeet drawing.
>>527938081Not only that but air friction points exterior and within the engine. Fucking christ, who dreamed this shit up. Bet they made millions just for throwing darts on the wall.
>>527937028>US builds another thing that will never see combat>that will be 760 trillion dollars please goyim
>>527938417the death rays were made up nonsense, just like the bullshit about China "melting" indian soldiers>bro we have super secret wonder waffles (that we're telling you about right now) and it will LE MELT YOUR BRAINwe already have a weapon that can melt your brain, it's called a gun lmao
>>527937578human beans still pilot the drones, there is literally NO POINT in putting a meat bag in a fighter plane anymore.
>>527937028holy based
>>527937028Its funny when you realize that almost all the chink military posting is from the pentagon making up shit to get more money that they don't need>bro China is totally going to invade Taiwan anyway nowChina is a backwards shit hole that just puts neon lights on stuffThey will literally never invade Taiwan
Pajeet thread.
>>527938553she raised that boy right
>>527938081No way the airflow would stick to the skin of that engine curve and the hollow valley would create a low speed region and dragAmerica is posting meme 3D renders white China already built a fleet of tons of new categories of planes that look like something out of science fiction and have far better flight characteristics than American jets with a ton of Chinese innovations like the rotating winglets
>>527938527Only half of it
>>527937165Manned fighters are still 1-2 gens away because EW still exists.
>>527937230Did /k/ ban you, or what?
>>527938081We designed the plane wrong on purpose as a joke on china.
>>527937028it'll be 200 billion over budget, 5 years delayed and obsolete before it even enters servicethe american defence industry doesn't exist to create good weaponry you stupid polak. it exists to write blank cheques and create make-work jobs. american defence is a jobs and export program. nothing else.
>>527937165drones are good for surveillance and light bombing. they are not good for air supremacy.
>>527937028This jet design doesn't make sense when you exceed mach 2. At that speed you want a centralized jet exhaust to avoid problems with an engine unstart.
>>527937028Meh. These radical designs never pan out. And for stealth, you want the design to have as simple of a planform as possible to minimize complicated multi-bounce reflections, which is why flying wing designs are what works.>>527937165How else are fighter pilots going to know they're better than everyone else? Any schlub can sit in a trailer and direct a drone.
>>527937354>Notice how all drones in Ukraine have fiber optic wires attached to them.LOL no they don't. And the fully autonomous ones are coming soon.
>>527937157The P-38 Lighting is sexy. Nobody will convince me otherwise.
>>527937028The company that designed this, according to wikipedia, "purports to be a military aerospace developer and also sells wholesale car storage". this is the companies "director of advanced technology". a prototype wont be built lmao.
What's the point of a fighter jet? Seems like an outdated concept
P-38 Lightning vibes
>>527938984what about white supremacy?
>>527939345we gotta export SOMETHING to our 'allies' anon might as well be an outdated expensive piece of shit fighter jet
>>527939345If you grew up in a non negrified airport town that had airshows, you would understand.
>>527939359nope it's a mig-25 with a deformed wing to hide the fact
>>527937165something something ace combat 7 plot
>>527939453sounds like no one is celebrating in your American oblast for sure
>>527937584Lots of trees in the sky to blend in with?
>>527937595Seeing as the pilots are white, you are getting further each day
>>527939342>6head
>>527938896What do you think a meatbags is going to do when all the electronics die you spastic
>>527939656https://apnews.com/article/military-cancer-pilots-ground-crew-pentagon-study-298f70c4f7581fe5e08637fcb61abc71Oh you mean like already? Humans are expendable. That includes pilots too.
>>527937028Wow 30 billion a pop and a 1 year life span with major repairs needed after every flight
>>527937028>We have imagined this airplane you see ...America is one big Potemkin shithole
>>527939516yes because everyone who criticizes our scam military is automatically a russian. get the fuck out of here cletus. people like you are the problem.
>>527937028Time for another trillion flop
>>527939498It's a computer generated image, my dude.
>>527937028yeah but do they transform into humanoids?
>>527939863hence why they were able to contemplate such an embarrassing design
>>527938693carlos..
>>527938081Yeah, why even have these gaps
>>527939923It's sexy.
>>527937028HAHAHAAHHAAHHAHA... niggers can't even design a plane anymore. All that DEI fucked them up.
>>527937230It's funny how many people took this seriously. Retards, all of them.
>>527938081How dare you insult the concept artists with your vapid engineering concepts.
>>527937028>Batwingjust like muh heckin marvelrinos
Everyday we move closer to this
>>527940311And yet you post in the retard thread.
>>527939342he's on Ancient Aliens
>>527937165>drone a fighter that looks like thatThat's how you get Cylons Hans.
>>527940121they look nothing alike.
>>527937028Didnt David Wilcock make those?
>>527939990because then it becomes way more obvious that now the US is ripping off china.
>>527937028>Goauld death wings So we're not hiding it anymore got it
>>527937028>Stavatti AerospaceIn the trash it goes.
>>527940121P-38s are so fucking cool
>>527940703Nah we arnt gonna copy that gen, were going with canards.
>>527939342Code lyoko??
>>527937211kek
>>527939345Well they kept building battleships into WWII. Military tech only changes when it gets blown up too often, until then nobody believes it. I know everyone's big on stealth planes but I think in the future if it's in the sky someone can see it, target it and blow it up. You wanna survive, you're in the trees or under water.
>>527940690My point is that the P-38 is the airframe they failed to mimic. Maybe it looks good to Chinks?
>>527937165None whatsoever. It's going to get very spooky. I mean it already is but so much development happens behind closed doors so unimaginative people can't comprehend it.
>>527937165Maintaining command and control in a contested EW environment I guess, I'm not sure if autonomous fighters are competitive enough with trained pilots either.
>>527941797Yeah bro the US gov't has UFOs and time travel, fuck off all of you retards that come in here with your garbage.
soon
>>527939372Yeah I could see a few uses with them that help that along.
>>527939345They are for gaining air supremacy obviously, they engage other aircraft as well as ground based air defense systems, think of them like EW probes with air to air missiles.
>>527937165Electronic warfare. Humans can't get scrambled (excluding the goybeam of course).
>>527938604Good think you aren't making defense acquisition decisions. >What is jamming.
>>527941850>I'm not sure if autonomous fighters are competitive enough with trained pilots either.KEK look at this boomer>superhuman reactions and perception>centuries of parallelized training>strategic depth that sends the GOAT in every thinking game flying. Chess, Go, Starcraft, literally doesn't matter.I will bet anything that there exists a UAV right now in some prototyping facility that can 1v1 any fighter pilot that's ever lived.
>>527937689Real work is for goyim. Stealing via derivatives and other financial instruments is for the "highly intelligent" jews.
>>527938417Focused beam laser would likely be best for what you are describing, we currently do not possess the technology for such high powered lasers. Microwaves or sonic waves likely wouldn't have the same reach.
>>527942307I think you are full of shit because they are still currently in the testing phase using simulations, obviously in a dogfight there are only a few mathematically correct moves you can perform, eventually a machine will have the advantage as they can compute the best maneuver to execute at machine speeds with a lesser margin of error.
>>527937028the problem comes down to fuel anon and the more they output the more they need
>>527942307and yet i can't get chatgpt, an ai with over 7 trillion parameters, to give me a working spreadsheet formula. and it keeps making up shit that never happened, doesn't know how man r's are in strawberry, and once said the correct amount of rocks to eat a day is 2, yes lets strap an ai with a fraction of that power to a hundred million dollar weapons platform loaded with 20 million dollars worth of missiles and have it correctly assess complex dynamic battlefield situations and hope for the best. good thinking.
>>527942567>a machine will have the advantage as they can compute the best maneuver to execute at machine speeds with a lesser margin of error.You backpedaled on that one so fast>I think you are full of shitI don't need you to believe anything I say, go watch some sportsball
>>527937028gay
>>527939797you are a russian though. does it make you ashamed? it should
>>527943024I wasn't backpedaling, I recognize that a machine has an obvious advantage, the problem is training that machine to the point it's able to outperform a human being,There is zero proof of any autonomous fighter that is superior to a human ace pilot at present.
>>527939575That's the top my guy, as in it's sitting on the ground and you look down
>>527938896EW will keep human pilots relevant until someone invents an unbreakable datalink which isn't happening.Also AI is retarded.>>527939273>>527941105Stealth is a fad. Money pit whose value proposition is shrinking as sensor fusion progresses.The weakening of the almighty dollar will send stealth to the retirement home alongside the SR-71.The real reason the F-22 isn't sold internationally is because nobody can afford to fly it more than one a year at oshkosh anyway.
>>527940921Please no. We already have enough awful looking eurocanards coming out of this continent.
>>527937028We're going for twin bee design.
>>527937207Video?
F4-SpectorTime to bring back old nostalgia air frames
>>527937165The drones are only good as wingmen to assist piloted fighters.
>>527944576I for one welcome our new Vic Viper overlords
>>527937230Humans passing out at anything over 4G in an indeterminate direction is why they've been working on drones for 40 years. Remember kids, if they could get us to do it, they would. But they can't. So they're making AI instead.
>>527937682lel
>>527939338
>>527938462>>527938553Pretty sure all of the engineering concerns is air drag on the in between bits gets taken care of by getting past the sonic boom. They can make it go Mach 1, everything after that is defeating the boom. I don't know if it'll work, but attacking the problem with swept wings for 70 years certainly hasn't.
>>527938081at mach 4 there is no air - so no stress occurs t. astrophysicist
>>527938527Twin cities, you daft cunt. Go back to sleep.
>>527937230I'm stealing that kek
>>527944643Go back to your dreams, child.
>>527939338and its invulnerable to ew defenses in the future small prop-planes will reappear over the battlefield - they can be built by the thousands
>pajeeta sinha GET IT TOGETHER, /POL/
>>527939342Chinese peasant phds shaking in their boots when they see a tru creative man educated in the liberal arts heading research
THE FRACKIN CYLONS ARE ATTACKING
>>527945293>Engine Limitations: While technically capable of Mach 3.2, pushing past Mach 2.83 could result in the engines exceeding maximum allowable temperatures (\(>1,000^{\circ }C\)), requiring them to be replaced.>Operational Altitude: The top speed of Mach 3.2 is achieved at high altitudes, often around 18,000 to 20,000 meters.tfw you will never go full emergency power on a mig 25 to chase down an alien invader or ICBM
>>527939342Hidden in Plain Sight pod for all your Wilcock info. You will laugh your ass off.
>>527937578>Human beans cannot be jammed, spoofed or hackedNigger, look around you.
>>527945573
>>527937165It's more insecurity bullshitTo show countries we have better technology yada yada
>>527945698>we need to go to space to beat the Russiansthe motive doesn't really matter does it
>>527937028literal vaporware. they just made up a bunch of fake stats.>mach 15>capable of 30 g maneuvering>200,000 foot max altitude>extreme low observability (invisibility cloaking)>not built by indians
>>527937165The point is that having only one option means that once a perfect counter to that option exists, you have zero options. The US military has a ridiculous number of tools for a reason. Our smallest options tend to be overwhelmingly powerful compared to all of the other powers on the planet. Though that is more because no other powers truly exist and we just fucking meme all day and night thinking they do and that they matter.
>>527939575I used to like watching shitty 80's ninja movies and the simple truth is that the bright red or gold foil ninjas are the ones to fear - they don't give a shit about "stealth"
>>527937028>2026>fighterimagine dumping untold billions in a world of cheap drones and missiles. Also american MIC is chocked full of non whites today so the only thing it can produce is AI pics.
>>527937028Soon.
>>527937230>these repliesgoddamn this board is retarded
>>527937515Kek
>>527937028>poland flag>bragging about uncle sam deedsEternal serf.
>>527937230Rather Pynchonesque
>>527945040Jet engines might struggle with that whole no air thing. This ain’t rocket science.
>>527937028i bet the shape of the aircraft has nothing to do with the performance, maybe it has a negative effect on it, its just supposed to look le hecking sci fi
>>527937028When was the last time there was an actual dogfight?
>>527938604That's what the AI will do for us
>>527937028Holy ai slop with terrible aerodynamics even to a layperson batman
>>5279370287th gen was reentry vehicles? The stuff of Maverick? Cruise pilots the prototype and its a reentry vehicle? We are on 5th gen. 6th is drone wingman. 7th supposedly reentry where drones are becoming capable. After 6th gen pilots are almost unnecessary except for pulling the trigger. A.I is supposedly doing most of the operation. Who knows completely neither are on roll out other than expo and development.
>>527937028If there is any Indian worker in that company they are screwed.
>grok make this air superiority fighter from the game starcraft 2 into a real life futuristic fighter>get trillions in funding>???>profit
>>527937230Macross plus will confirm
>>527937165Drones only work on third world backwards shit holes like Russia. Any civilized country will and has anti drone technology
>>527937320maybe the seabees can follow it around and build it an airstrip to land on
>>527937515small thai ladyboys should be the missiles
>>527944803>Bloodborne shit
why bother with any military just publicly state "we will obliterate with nuclear weapons anyone that opposes us" and then do so
>>527937028tl;dr stavatti aerospace is a ponzi scheme grift and has never made a single aircraft, but just tries to scam investment and grants----According to the Buffalo News, as of 2021, there was no evidence Stavatti had "produced a single airplane" of its own design in the company's then 26-year history.[13] Its only known facilities were a "one-person office suite", a "machine shop ... slightly larger than a basketball court", and Beskar's house.[13]In February 2023, according to The Buffalo News, one of Stavatti's investors sued the company, alleging racketeering and fraud and claiming the company was a ponzi scheme.[14][15][16]NCIDA subsequently rescinded the subsidies it had awarded in 2020, citing little progress by the company on its plan, and several local construction contractors filed lawsuits alleging nonpayment or underpayment by Stavatti on services they had provided.[14]As of 2023, David Wilcock was Stavatti's director of advanced technology.In December 2024, Stavatti was evicted from some of the space it had been occupying in Niagara Falls, FlightGlobal reported.[17] Several months later, in March 2025, a staff editorial in The Buffalo News opined that "Stavatti Aerospace has worn out its welcome" in Niagara Falls and that it was time for Beskar "to pack up his computer-generated images and go".[18] The column went on to allege that "after five years of unfulfilled promises, unsubstantiated claims and unpaid debts, 9400 Porter Road still looks much the same as when the company moved in: vacant and inactive" and that "Stavatti has not produced a single airplane – military, commercial or otherwise".[18]
>>527945473dark reign enjoyer?
>>527937165None
>>527953721
>>527953876
>>527937230lol based
>>527937028Dont worry Israel will sell us your secrets lmao
>>527937028>mannedtrash
>>527937578what is more expendable? a remote operated drone or investing millions of dollars in a good goy pilot that listens to his COs every word? fucking retard nigger mutt
>>527937230least retarded pole
>>527942302>implying a pilot isn't anything but dead weight in a jammed modern fly-by-wire shitbox
>>527938285No. We've always had seven. It comes right after six.
>>527954794it's not me, I'm just lurking
>>5279375841971 F-15 B, nice.
>>527937028>do a barrel roll!
>>527939342
>>527937028So while the Chinese has a viable 6th generation fighter, the Americans failed to build a same generation aircraft and now are skipping to the 7th generation using science fiction CGI and bullshit claims.They took your public education for this.
>>527937515What a waste
>>527937028ayy lmao
>>527960012Antichink scum, China has a 67th gen fighter! And don't you forget it
>>527940677as a host or an alien
>>527937028Wow a drawing when is america gonna have a working prototype like china?
>>527960309Never, China is so far past US it's sad.
>>527938595These things are literally put out there by defense contractors so that china chases that technology. IIRC, the computers that were needed to constantly adjust the forward facing wing from stress were the breaking point of this design. Let chine copy them after they steal the red-herring “plans”.
So...they gonna dump two trillion building this glorified US jobs program this time round? Or three trillion?
>>527939342Do you believe he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?
>>527937165Holy fuck are you ever fucking stupid.
>>527937595https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeCb_abgig0
>>527940703No one copies Chink technology, those slopes haven’t had an innovative thought since Marco Polo arrived.
>>527937207>Sir we've taken out the enemy!>How so?>They were distracted by laughing at our SM-39 Razors!
>>527937578>Human beansSpic detected. ICE notified.
>>527960547US copies chink technology why do you think the F35 looks just like the superior J35?
>>527937028can't wait to fly it in the next Ace CombatI just hope it's not gonna be woke garbage
>Stavatti Aerospace Ltd. is a privately held American aerospace company headquartered in Niagara Falls, New York. It is part of the Stavatti Family of Companies, which originated with the founding of Stavatti Corporation in 1994 by Christopher Beskar (who remains CEO). The company focuses on designing and manufacturing next-generation military, commercial, and general aviation aircraft, though it has faced skepticism regarding its operations and has not produced any aircraft to date. It has subsidiaries such as Stavatti Ukraine and Stavatti Europe, and it structures individual aircraft programs as joint ventures.>has not produced any aircraftwelp
>>527937028The Chinese response was quick and deadly.
>>527937165House politics in the Air Forces. The generals in charge are jet pilots. So, they will create jobs for jet pilots.
>>527937165You can jam and intercept drones. Obviously you don't have to choose one or the other. A modern military will integrate both. Drones will probably become a part of a jet's kit, if it hasn't happened already.
>>527937584The pattern is called European One you pleb.
>>527960864I know from a secure source that the "missiles" are actually photon torpedoes btw.
>>527937165>>527937165>>527937165ANON THIS ISN'T A GOOD TIME TO BE RETARDED
>>527937207>>527937207>>527937207>> CANNOT SAID GOD >> GOONSLOP HELLO JEW
>>527937165So my hopes of new Macross anime can still alive.
>>527937230Bazowano y czerwonatabletkowano
>>527937595Daffy did it better.
Star Fox looking bullshit
>>527938081>massive stress and fatigue pointThose are called wing roots, and obviously yes.
>>527938599I was told about lasers cutting down trees in Iraq 20 years ago and now we see there are laser weapons ready to go now so I wouldn't be surprised If there is microwave tech and ultrasonic weapons that immobilize people. Were only lime 10 years from futuristic beam weapons being common.
>>527940887Too bad that P-38 before the H would get into high speed dives that you could not pull out of.Also apparently the engine controls were too complicated for many pilots and they wouldn't achieve full combat power when it came time to dogfight and would fight at a fuel efficient cruise setting.
>>527937028Wow, ZOG drew a picture of an airplane?Watch out China!
>>527941966>F15, F14, F105, F104, F117, SR-71I am not hating on macross or fictional airplanes at all, but there are plenty of cold war jets with similar lines.
>>527937028Never mind 7th gen, wheres their 6th gen?
>>527937028>CONCEPTLike your wooden super tank that never existed
>>527937165>what's even the point of manned fighter jetsAura farming.
>>527938831>Chinese>Innovations
>>527937028>2026That's just stolen from a psx game.
>>527937028this is the 6th gen fighter + carrier
>>527938081Maybe, but consider how cool it looks.
>>527938831Chink shit sucks ass.
>>527966653>mah great grand-uncle who served in the viet-nam war (those gosh darned gooks blew off his shins!) told me that when he was doin a tour in I-RAK he saw a gat dang lazor cuttin down treez n shiii.ok lol>Were only lime 10 years from futuristic beam weapons being common.2 more weeks>I wouldn't be surprised If there is microwave tech and ultrasonic weapons that immobilize peopleeasier to just shoot them though
>>527967132>Chink shit sucks ass.may we see the America suck-assage?
>>527953971>Firefox >Remove browser history from Earth
