How do Christian Nationalists cope with what's written in the Bible?
Context, motherfucker.
Revision versus actual content versus context.
>>527997463Judaism ceased to exist in 70 AD with the destruction of their Temple and the end of their royal priesthood.>bbbbut these people call themselves Jews todaykek
>>527997463WHOA JESUS CAME FROM JUDEA??? this is breaking news leaf. I'd get the pentagon on the horn
>>527997500>>527997547What's the contextual cope for>You goyim worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
muslims christians jews one & the same they are all jews
By not reading the bible. If they think those books were actually written by holy spirit they should follow all the rules given in bible. Most of those rules are retarded because they were written 3000 years ago by goatfucking kikes so obviously most chriscucks don't believe in the bible, or they choose which fragments to believe
>>527997620>we wuz da real jewsAt least you're accepting that christianity is jewish
>>527997463What it actually means is salvation is from the Germans. Now y'all know.
>>527997730>By not reading the bible.This seems to be the common denominator with all Christian nationalists. They've never actually read their bible.
>>527997746christians don't follow jewish law unlike the jews and muslims.
>>527997858Apparently Christians like to pick and choose what parts of the Hebrew Torah they want to follow and which parts they don't want to follow. I'm not here to judge you. It's not like God is here or a prophet to tell you how to follow the Bible.
>>527997781>Live like a German -> prosper as a people>Live like a jew -> degenerate as a peopleI'm catching the drift
>>527998051allahs torah?
>>527998117Germans are the real Jews.
>>527997463Christianity has officially been at war with the Bible since they denounced the Seventh day Sabbath at the Council of Laodicea in the year 365
>>527997463The Jews of the Bible are not the Jews of today
>>527998051Yep, the real believers are the MessianicsHappy Sabbath to the true Church!
>>527997656Their claim is the context in which the words sit relational to the other words composing The Bible as a whole.What came before, and after? What do the words intend to say in context to the entire story which preceded it, and came after it?
>>527997463HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>527997463Erm .. we pick and choose.
>>527997463it does say salvation comes from the jews, is says salvation IS from the jews.salvation requires a target, you can't be saved from nothing.jews are the essence of evil.
>>527997858Christian law is the law of Yahweh and was written by Jews, so how is it not Jewish?
>>527998716so christians don't follow jewish law as the muslims do is what youre saying?
>19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. >20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”>21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. >22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. >23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.>24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”The entire thing was to tell that it's not about jews or samaritans but that anyone who worships God in spirit and truth is a "jews", His chosen and what He seeks in this world regardless if they are born jew or samarian. Jesus literally says that you don't have to worship in jerusalem like the pharisees do, but to worship in Spirit and truth.
>>527998269Christians follow Jewish laws for gentiles. If your laws were written by Jews, they are Jewish.
>>527999253so christians follow jewish/rabbinic law as the muslims do?
>>527999628Jewish yes, not rabbinic though. Christianity is a branch of second temple judaism, rabbinic judaism came after the destruction of the temple.Muslims are closer to following the original Noahide Laws from Genesis.
>>527999851so dietary restrictions as the muslims do? we can run thru them one at a time.
>>527997463>How do Christian Nationalists cope >John 4 I'll raise you a John 8 and tell you to go back to your master you inbred Canaanite.
>>527999958Not necessary. It suffices that we've established that they're jewish.
>>527999253Not necessarily, Anon. Your claim is very biased, and it seems as though you are trying to convince Christians they are property of modern "Jews" in order to disenfranchise and demoralize themInteresting.Why do you hate Christians so much, and why do you spend your time trying to undermine them?Herbs.
>>528000026so christians don't follow jewish/muslim dietary laws? washing before prayer maybe?
>>527997463How do christcucks explain the existence of blackholes
>>528000059I never said modern Jews. That's Christian nationalist cope to avoid dealing with the fact that Jesus was Jewish and Christianity was a messianc sect of second temple judaism.
>>527999166truth nuke.
>>527997463
>>527997500N... no
>>527997500cope. Enjoy hell.
>>527997463correct, save me from the jews
>>527997463>>527997620>>527997858White people literally worship Jews. They destroyed all of their own history, heritage, culture to replace it with Jewish lore. White people name their kids Jewish names like Joseph, John, Jonathan, Anna, Mary, Elizabeth, David, etc. White people do not remember their history. They only remember that the serpent seduced Eve in the garden and that Jesus was crucified.Whites are the most philosemitic breed on this planet alongside Jeets.
>>527998306You're wrong.
>>528000615>jew creates a problem then sells you his "solution"Smart.
>>527997463>How do Christian Nationalists cope with what's written in the Bible?Synagogue of Satan aren't Jews. When they denied Christ they denied God.
>>527997463The bible is a simple book which is prone to the faults of humans such as bad translations and dishonest manipulative revisions over the centuries. Think about the shit people (JEWS) get away with today in an age nearing peak surveillance, and then consider what people could get away with for the past 2,000 years. They could make up anything they want as long as they got their whole collective to go along with it and convince everyone else.
>>528000761Das rite. Because you have accepted Jesus, you are the true Israelite all along! And all those people from the levant that had a priestly tradition that made the core of your text are actually wrong, lol. New day, new levels of Christnigger mental illness
>>527999166Good post. The fucking jeets who post out of context verses are relying on the stupidity and laziness of the average person.
>>527997463What is it in the water that makes British men, Minnesotan men and Ontario men such massive faggots, genuinely curious about this phenomenon
>>528000395You fail to understand what you argue against, and use hatred and ignorance to spearhead your attacks on Christians. It's telling.I think we ought to concentrate on actual problems, not try to "remove" what we happen to disagree with, like some crazed leftist would do to speech they do not agree with.I am not a Christian,. but I see what you're doing. Diverting attention and attempting to divide communities.
>>527997463So jesus was here to save people from the jews?
>>527997799Im not a Christian nationalist, but ive read every version of the Bible. You base your bullshit on things that have been deliberately mistranslated. All you need to find the truth is a greek concordance, but there is no truth in you.
>>528000936>if you don't perceive the world from the perspective of Jewish people from 2,000 years ago - you're a faggotHow does it feel to be an NPC? Legitimately asking, how does it feel to never be able to question anything, look at objective facts, or reason?
>>528000016Fedoras don't actually engage with scripture, tradition, or arguments anon. They just strut about and shill the same points that haven't held water for three decades.
>>528000761>Synagogue of Satan is fake jews>we wuz da real Jews!
What do kikes not understand about Jesus calling them children of satan?
>>527997463Christians are the biggest race cucks around. FACT
>>528001020>Fedoras don't actually engage with scripture, tradition, or arguments anon. Ironic when half the Christians on /pol/ literally make up headcanon about who counts as a "Jew" and how Christ, a circumcised Jew by Jewish tradition attendee of the Jewish temple of the Jewish lineage, referencing the Jewish national god, is actually not a Jew.The irony here... mmm could power entire nations and LLMs from your irony and butthurt alone.
>>527997463Jews wasn't a word then, it was the Hebrews. Jews are the khazarian practitioners of the babylonian Talmud and are the synagogue of satan that we are warned about.
>>527999166>Samaritan woman tries goysplaining to Rabbi Jesus>Jesus tells the goy her people worship on the mountain cause they don't know>Jews worship at the temple because they do know>but it doesn't matter, because you can worship The King of the Jews anywhere!
>>528001386jesus said he's king of the jews?
>>528001118Did you even read your own text? Of course not, because you're an illiterate christnigger.Revelation 2:9 is about addressing a church in Smyrna. Has 0 relation to Jews. If you read the preceding verse, you would know.>8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;>9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.Revelation 3:9 addresses Philadelphia.>7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openethYou illiterate hacks most likely do not even know where these churches used to exist. No wonder you post shit out of context.
>>527997500i.e. pilpul
>>528001369and what were hebrews then
>>528000967Why should acknowledging what's written in the Bible be considered divisive or an attack on Christians?Only ignorant Christian Nationalists can't accept what I've said because of their own hatred and ignorance. I haven't said anything remotely controversial or offensive to actual Christians who actually read the Bible.
>>528001514It's like this
there is genuinely nothing more embarrassing that christians who still feel the need to "fit in" with neo nazis and cook up this stupid elaborate head canon shit that doesn't even make sense when you actually read scripture just pick a lane dude, why do you care so much about being "one of the good ones" to neo nazis? some of you care more about hitler than you do about jesus
>>528001467John 8:44
>>528001369>the english word for Jews didn't exist, because english wasn't invented yet>therefore jews didn't exist eitherKhazar theory was made up and spread by Jews and is totally debunked by DNA studies.
>>527997463I wish to be saved from the kikes also, that is why I am a Christian. Fuck the (((jews))).
>>527997463> Christian Nationalist LOL
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>>528000996 The woman saith to him, `Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet; our fathers IN this mountain did worship, and ye -- ye say that in Jerusalem is the place where it behoveth to worship.' Jesus saith to her, `Woman, believe me, that there doth come an hour, when neither IN this mountain, nor IN Jerusalem, shall ye worship the Father;>ye worship what ye have not known; >we worship what we have known, because the salvation is of the Jews; but, there cometh an hour, and it now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father IN spirit and truth, for the Father also doth seek such to worship him; God [is] a Spirit, and those worshipping Him, IN spirit and truth it doth behove to worship.' The woman saith to him, `I have known that Messiah doth come, who is called Christ, when that one may come, he will tell us all things;' Jesus saith to her, `I am [he], who am speaking to thee.'
>>528002095You changed the translation though. >salvation is of the jewsI was asking what leaf believed about itWhy does he translate it that way?
>>528001928Jews hate it when you fulfil their prophecies by worshiping their God.There's nothing Jews fear more than Christians.
>>527997463>>528001928Christianity is a sect of Judaism. Every Christian is a Jew. Picrel is the precise example of sectarianism.
>>528002066The boat is up there fossilizing on Mt. Ararat. Practically still visible.
>>528002300I am a Christian and not a jew. The Lord God has condemned all jews to hell, this is fact and easily readable in the Bible.
>>527997463If I gave you an apple, did you get it from me?If you got the apple from me, do I still have it?
>>528002314Definitely bro
>>528001664so why is it that the New testament narrative has salvation coming "first to the Jews then to the gentiles", via Paul who is described as "emissary to the gentiles"? why is it that gentiles are specifically used to refer to European cultures like romans and jews, or "hebrews" if you prefer, is used to refer to pharisees like paul? if aryans are the real hebrews and pharisees, who make up the priimary core of modern judaism, are not, why does the bible its self refer to pharisees as jews/hebrews and white people as gentiles? how do explain the chapter of john "jews reject jesus"? in this context its pretty damn clear that the people who reject jesus are refered to in the new testament its self as jews/hebrews and we are gentiles the only thing i could really think might cause confusion for you is the idea of all christians becoming "israel" and inheriting the promise to abraham, but this doesnt mean that gentiles are literally "the real jews" it just means that the promise to abraham is tied to the new covenant that gentiles can enter through christ
Well, most have stopped reading that subversive document.
>>528002402They don't actually engage with any of this. They have decided that Christians are Cryptojews and will just jerk each other off about how based and true that is. It's entirely masturbatory.
>>527997500Jesus is the salvation that arose out of Judea. Judea is translated to "the jews" in English versions of the Bible.
>>528001386Good morning saar
>>528002233>I was asking what leaf believed about itThe Greek uses ἐκ, which can be translated to "of" or "from"
>>527997463> bridegroom of blood
>>527998306How do you know? Everyone around the guy did exist.
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>528002661This. English translations failing to differentiate between judea, judahites, and separatist Pharisees is one of the most horrific rapes of history in history.
>>528001129Millennia of Christian tradition and the scriptures themselves aren't 'headcanon'.The vast majority of /pol/ users screeching 'christcuck' have nothing but pilpul and reddit-tier surface understanding of Christianity and act like that makes them the winner by default. The whole back and forth is worthless.
>>528002233Of, from, ontologically, genetically, etc. You are seemingly asking "Why are the prophets of the Old Testament?"... Which is exactly the right question. The prophets are of Jacob/Israel. Yahweh marches an army of jews with Moses to scare the shit of the whole cannanite 'east of eden' global community, but then Yahweh murders the whole army because they don't have faith that they are walking around the literal ark of the covenant but aren't pure enough for Yahweh to wage world war with. The jews blue ball the pillar of fire demanding to eat flesh, etc. The Jews don't earn being THE branch of kings by national merit but out of Yahweh doing what he wants when and where he wants despite odds. Or, more politically concerning the context of a samarian woman, >SALVATION IS NOT OF THE MYSTERY SCHOOLS
>>527997746>judaism doesn't exist>we wuz da real jewsESL
>>528002847wow some retard posted a basic bitch nihilism take on the internet better forget about thousands of years of history and decades of life
>>528002754kekThey want to say Jesus wasn't Jewish, but the very first sentence of the NT is saying he's of the line of King David. Do these christcucks think King David, the heavyweight Champion of circumcision, wasn't a Jew?
>>528001648Its the way you're using it out of context to cause division that matters here. You know that. I know that. other Anons? Not so much.
>>528001118did he vax max?
>>528002402These questions are impossible for Christian nationalists to answer. At best you'll get incoherent, biblically illiterate copes. They've learned its best to pretend you didn't ask.
>>528002402All your objections are clarified by the fact you're confusing religion/culture (torah worshipper) with nationality (judean) "of judea" with heredity(judahite). The fact abraham was white, and the israelites were white does not mean ALL white people were born from abraham nor does it mean that all people ultimately descended from abaraham are white. So gentile means someone who doesn't follow the torah. It doesn't mean different genetic race per se.
>>527997463>It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
>>528003234>by the fact you're confusing religion/culture (torah worshipper) with nationality (judean) "of judea" with heredity(judahite). prove it
>>527997463They would have to read it before proceeding to that stage.
>>528001118Why do you christcucks love Rev 3:9 so much? It's Jews kvetching at other Jews for not being real Jews and Jewing the correct way.It's not condemning Judaism or Jews, it's condemning those "who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars".
>>527997463Why would protties want a bunch of catholic barbarians in their country?
>>528003372>Prove itI did. You said:>>528002402>if aryans are the real hebrews and pharisees, who make up the priimary core of modern judaism, are not, why does the bible its self refer to pharisees as jews/hebrews and white people as gentiles?Your model does not distinguish between residency and race and religion. They're all different things. It's like asking why do people call canadian flags jeet?
>>527997463Why don't Christian nationalist castrate themselves for Christ?
>>528003051>muh contextWhat would Christian nationalists know about the context? They've clearly never bothered to read the Bible. They have to come up with insane copes to explain every single passage rather than just admit the obvious fact that its Jewish.
>doesnt know the difference between from and forLol low iq
>>528002402>first to the Jews then to the gentilesGod made a covenant with Israel.His descendants were way off the path.He came to correct them personally.They were unrepentant.The covenant was broken.Jesus explained this entire plot point himself, if you go to verse 33 here:https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-Chapter-21/Jesus Christ will personally answer this question, predicting his own crucifixion at the hand of the Pharisees.
>>528003854Christianity has thousands of years of history of white people mercilessly murdering each other for no reason and you think you can tell modern Christians they're somehow different?
>>528003805They were, lots. Trooning out for Jesus was such a problem amongst early Christians that the first order of business in the First Council of Nicaea was to put a stop to the practice. It was the #1 issue of the time.
>>528002977I'm not excusing every retard who claims Christianity but is ill-read, a LARPer, etc. But it shouldn't be hard to see the dispute here.>On /pol/ it is fashionable to call Christians crypto-jews and jew worshippersChristians resent this because both takes are retarded for multiple reasons>Jesus, for a Christian, is GodFull stop. He incarnated as a Hebrew in the line of David but He's the God of everything and everyone. Reducing the omnipotent creator who is so vast as to have three persons in one being to 'a jew' is incredibly reductionist.It should be immediately telling that 'Jesus was a Jew' was founded and peddled almost exclusively by Jews themselves.>The ancient israelites are a distinct peopleModern Jewry literally comes into existence with their rejection of Jesus and the destruction of Herod's temple. The Jew, in the context of /pol/, refers very specifically to the Jews as a malicious force in global politics, which comes after the develop of the rabidly anti-Christian Jewish diaspora.So when you say "Jesus is a Jew", Christians can tell you're not saying "Jesus incarnated among the ancient israelites" you're actually saying He is a kike, which is both insulting and disingenuous.So many cartwheels to ultimately blame Christianity, whose presence correlates with the best times in western society and whose decline has resulted in the rapid worsening of western society, for all of the problems caused by modern Jewry, whose founders started their career of shit by jewing the Romans into executing God Himself.
>>528002402You'll never get a straight answer out of them. You'll only get massive amounts of cope as they twist themselves in pretzels to deny the history of their religion.
>>528003992Well maybe since its so ancient and trad they can bring it back to be super based
>>528003992Eunuchs. They are called Eunuchs, anon.
>>528003738The people living in Judea, who spoke Hebrew, worshiped the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, circumcised on the 8th day according to Torah law, and taught the Torah were Jews. Jesus and all his disciples were certified Jews.
>>528001928Christianity's "anti-semitism" is fake, contrived and containment, much like how the GOP is a fake opposition to the Dems.
>>528003854I think you're foreign, and will never understand what's actually being said.Your work to divide Christians is your own, but you aren't seeing it from their perspective, and I doubt you ever will.Later, Anon.
>>528000676White people are the slaves of Jews thanks to Christianity
>>528003992>Trooning out for JesusI saw a vid of a troon unironically using this verse to justify their Trooning out . wish I saved the link.
>>527997463I just fuck the prettiest girls right in their eggs when they just ask.
>>528003738im asking you to prove that this "lack of distinction" invalidates the actual point at hand, because im not seeing in any way how you could possibly aruge that the pharisees/jews are not the ethnic and spiritual line from which salvation comes Jesus comes first for the lost sheep of the house of israel, thats not white people, thats pharisees and other jewish sectssalvation comes first to them, then to the greek/gentileJohn 4:22 states>You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.how exactly does your theory account for this? He is affirming that the Jews were the custodians of God’s revelationHe identifies with the specific ethnic and spiritual line through which God promised to bring the Messiah.this ethnic and spiritual line is not white people, its "the jews" aka the pharisees and other sects
>>528004174No. You can use the word judean and you would be accurate. But I regard the use of the term 'jew' as an inaccuracy.You're allowed to have whatever religion you want. If they are jews by your religion, then that is fine for you. But it's not what I believe.
>>528004237but its philosemtism is truly a sight to beholdhttps://youtu.be/p2_p_qwIyZ4
>>528004515In john 4:22 jesus specifies he is specifically talking about the lost sheep of israel, i.e. the descendants of abraham.
>>527997463The idea of salvation was indeed from the Jews and they had over a 1000 years of recorded history, some of it true, and many predictions from prophets that would prove a person's divine connection should they fulfill it. So, out of all the people and places to enact a divine change to humanity, the ancient Jews was a solid choice. Yes, it is explained very correctly by Jesus, that the woman by the well was going to be limited by not having the prophets within their religious texts, since the Samaritans only had the five books of Moses. Most of the prophecies were more recent from just 600 years to 200 years prior. Once again, Jesus was correct and 2000 years later He continues to make shitty people feel shittier and sperg out online. That feat is divine in itself. Can you imagine your posts being read 2000 years from now and making idiots mad? Super skills.
>>527997463If you actually read the New Testament, the so-called jews don't come off looking too well, much less what we consider jews today (talmudists, whose religion formed in Babylonian captivity long after Christ died). Plus there is one verse that describes modern "jews" more than anything, and it's pretty intuitive and doesn't require a lot of subterfuge: >By their fruits shall ye know them Just apply that to the people who call themselves jews today and you have your answer.
>>528004603and the lost sheep of israel are jews, as in the pharisees type jews. as in the etho-religous group that make up modern Judaism, the ethno religious group which jesus was apart of
>>527997463>jewsthe original sons of david no longer exist, they were usurped long ago by moloch worshiping khazars.
>>527997463its means we are granted freedom FROm the evils of the JewS. learn to comprehend
>>527997463They start ranting about Hellenes usually, calling them "LARPagans" (they really love that term)Christians try to claim that their monks were the ones responsible for scientific thought but in reality:Naturalism (maybe the most significant philosophical innovation in history) - HellenicFormal logic - HellenicAtomism and Heliocentrism - HellenicAlso their aesthetics were unashamedly mighty and inspiring. Christians hate that.
>>528004750>and the lost sheep of israel are jews, as in the pharisees type jews.I think the bible very clearly reveals that not to be the case
>>528004647I don't think that fedoras will hold up as well as the OG Christ-haters. They were at least funny sometimes, like that Roman child that made the graffiti of a crucified donkeyman mocking his Christian schoolmate.The modern version is mostly just ESLs and spergs saying the same self-congratulatory nonsense to one another in a circle.
>>528004295White Christians will be killed first in the actual Holocaust, it's good that they have many cute little boys and girls
>>527997463Lol, you're parsing that as salvation coming from Jews, you could just as easily parse it as salvation from Jews.
>>527997463the new covenant overrides the old covenant, now it doesn't matter if you're a jew or gentile so long as you accept jesus as the messiah and follow the 7 laws of Noah.
>>527997463Whites are cucked hard by Christianity to worship Jews of course Jews cant do shit in Asian countries like China or Japan because Christianity is a minority
>>528004075Anti-Semitic Christians resent it because it causes them painful levels of cognitive dissonanceChristians believe Jesus was fully god and fully human. The fully human part was fully Jewish. It wouldn't have fulfilled Old Testament prophecies if it weren't so. 99% of Christians have no issue with this fact, only confused anti-semitic ones do.>'Jesus was a Jew' was founded and peddled almost exclusively by Jews themselves.Duh. Jews wrote the story, all the early Christians were Jews. It's not some late revision, Jesus being Jewish is an integral part of the story.>The Jew, in the context of /pol/, refers very specifically to the Jews as a malicious force in global politicsNow this is revisionism. The Jews have been the same reviled people throughout their history, described and depicted just like they are in memes today. The problem has always been Judaism itself, starting with the Torah.Christians are to blame for being retards and falling for Jewish nonsense.
>>528004784The Hellenes who constituted a large part of the Early Church and founded the Eastern and Orthodox traditions?The ones who are the reason so many Christian texts were composed in Greek? Including the Gospels?The Hellenes who were some of the greatest Church Fathers like Sts. John Chrysostomos and Climachus?The Hellenes like Plato and Aristotle who were enshrined by both Eastern and Western Churches as the kings of secular philosophy?Show me a Christian who shits on the Greeks and I'll show you an imbecile.
>>528004805except it fucking doesn't dude, Jesus states full on hes not interested in working with gentiles at that time because "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." and the lost sheep of israel he is preaching to during this period are pharisees and other ethno-religious jews, who either convert to christianity or reject him and go on to become modern Judaism first the jews get their final chance as was promised to them, then the covenant extends to the entire world first to the jew then to the greek salvation comes through the jews
>>528004597Be the little lamb. The shepherd will take care of you. Don't worry about a thing.
>>527997463Because “from the Jews” doesn’t mean that Jews are our Savior. It’s just an expression of genealogy and God’s plan. It works miraculously to remove all boasting. Notice how the people who salvation came from don’t believe it? That’s the great irony of it all.
>>527997697/thread
>>527997463Why do kikes presume every white person is a Christian? It was intended to be the reformation of Judaism and they rejected it and doomed themselves to hell lol, retarded kikes.
Modern "jews" are khazarian converts
>>527997463It clearly says that we will be saved from jews
>>528005055If all Jews acted like Christ acted, would you hate Jews?
>>527997463Jesus was a jew, retard. Go back to worshiping cows and eating shit. Stuff you know.
>>528004075>Christianity, whose presence correlates with the best times in western society and whose decline has resulted in the rapid worsening of western societyRoman Empire
>>527999253Your reasoning:“A” writes the universal rules “you shall not kill” and “you shall not lie.”But “A” is bad, with verifiable evidence.Therefore, the universal law “you shall not kill” and “you shall not lie” is invalidated.Reasoning isn’t your thing.
>>528005261What happens IMMEDIATELY after the part you quoted, in the same chapter?
>>528005261no I don't think that's right. He outright says later the pharisees are not descendant of abraham. You are just stuck on a bad reading of what's going on.
>>528005612Roman empire was declining long before Christianity. Also goths were based
>>527997463Christian nationalism is a false label placed upon christian theocracicism. It is not possible to be a nationalist and follow an universalist antiracist religion.
>>528005575Yes. He demands everybody worship and obey him. He celebrates the weak, the sickly, the downtrodden, lowlifes and whores. He was a subversive and was attempting a political coup against the authorities. This guy was basically the Leon Trotsky of his day. I would hate him.
>>527997463>How do Christian Nationalists cope with what's written in the Bible?The best way to cope with it would be to renounce Christcucktianity and return to the religion of their ancestors.
>>528005818paganism literally does not existit's a bunch of leftist larp renn faire shit, the reddit of "religions"you have no communal body, you have no sacraments, you have no rituals, it's all dishonest larp just so you can stick it to Mom and Dad for making you go to church on a Sunday
>>528005762Okay so can you just pick one claim out of your list that you think is best evidenced in the Bible and show me that evidence?I’m not familiar with anything you are talking about. Perhaps you could change my mind.
>>528005435I recently learned that Constantine's deathbed conversion to Christianity is completely fabricated.
>>528004254Unlike Jesus, I'm white. You worship a foreigner and a foreign religion. Christian nationalists are the divisive ones. They're divisive to Christianity by going against the teachings of the Bible and their own church's, and they're divisive to pro-white movements by bringing their retarded Abrahamic baggage.Church's excommunicate these freaks once they find out the nonsense they're preaching.https://x.com/Protestia/status/1851771516267925928 I don't tolerate them either. You can't be race first and Jesus first. They're mutually incompatible.
>>528005929I will not change your mind and I do not want to change your mind.
You guys remember how when the internet went down in Israel the following all literally disappeared for 24 hours:- Anti Christ threads- Pro pagan threads- Interracial threads- Cuck porn threads- Anti white threads- Pro China threadsI remember.
>>527997500Cope, christcuck.
>>528005638you tell me.>>528005639wrong, jesus literally tells them "I know that you are Abraham's descendants", meaning they are literal descendants, but then chastises them for not being true "spiritual descendants" because of their hypocrisy and lack of righteousness.
>>527997547>>527997500>>527997463the original greek text implies out of, away, from departing
>>528005994Oh so you just made it up?I get a lot of that in these threads. Just people who spend their free time on a Saturday night lying about the Bible on the internet.What a life.
>>528005908Non-Christian spirituality does exist. Do not allow yourself to seethe over it.
>>528005055It is revisionism that, here on /pol/, 'Jew' very specifically means the J part in the JQ? And that is not how 'Jew' is generally used outside of this board and 4chan?I don't take issue when a normal person on the street says something like "Jesus was Jewish" (except for the 'was') because I know they're not smuggling in the implication that Christians are cryptojews who are to blame for everything.>All of the Early Christians were JewsAgain, very disingenuous. The Apostles certainly were Jews, as was John, but very quickly gentiles get involved. The Greeks and Syrians of the Pentapolis and all of the scores of disciples made by Paul, especially. Why lie? Or do you consider the Pauline Churches "not early enough"?
>>527997631>>527997620
>>528006015I don't.Did rabbi jesus tell you that?
>>528005183>Show me a Christian who shits on the Greeks and I'll show you an imbecile.They're everywhere. Constantly sperging out about idolatry and calling them demon worshipers without understanding the genius behind it.
>>528006066>>528006039
>>527997463this thread is filled with stupid fucking ESLs like >>527997746
>>528005908>paganism is just a larp>now excuse me as I LARP as some desert dwellers I have no genetic relation with
>>527997463Biblical Jews don't exist anymore they are Catholics or deathModern Jews follow satanic rabbinic nonsense
>>528006042I'm a little shocked you don't recognise my description of Jesus tendencies, but maybe you haven't read the NT in a while.>“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
>>528006015I remember before India got internet and every Saturday was nice on /pol/.
Titus 1:14They must stop listening to Jewish myths and the commands of people who have turned away from the truth.
>Christianity is based and anti-semiti-ACK
>>528005975Dude, finish a “reputable” university, because you have several reasoning flaws.
>>528006200Which of your claims do you think this verse is justifying?
>>527997463>jeetflag anti-christian board flood thread #4Hello sar are you having a bad day saaaar?
>>528006137The irony of ironies is that early Israelite religion is them LARPing as Egyptians.
>>528006250His obstinate demand to be obeyed and his arrogance about believing he is a supreme authority
>>528005638>What happens IMMEDIATELY after the part you quotedThat's the best part!Jesus rejected the gentile woman's pleas to heal her sick child. Jesus said wasting his time healing goyim would be like taking bread from children and tossing it to dogs.The woman appealed by arguing that loyal dogs deserve scraps from their masters table. Jesus, impressed by her #1 goy attitude had no choice but to agree.Christianity is Judaism for gentile slaves.
>>528003467I'm glad someone else noticed this sleight of hand. If you are Kulak then you are owning ITT
>>528006314I just want to be clear we are talking about the same verse:>“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.This is just my best guess based on context, but I might be wrong since this says the opposite. This is saying people WILL disobey him, and demands nothing.If the almighty demanded worship, you wouldn’t have much choice in the matter.If I got the wrong verse sorry, it’s the only one I could find you quoting; but I’m still pretty confused.
>>528005285 No thankshttps://youtu.be/4DzJUMe_bs0
>>528005612Rome was great, including the centuries when it was Christian, but I don't consider it better than the amazing flourishing of culture that came out of post-Roman Europe.>>528005704What a retarded take. You don't think your own Charles XII was a Christian Nationalist?>>528005975The Anglicans are your example? The Church that has destroyed itself to irrelevance by adopting LGBTQ and progressive nonsense and was founded by a King who wanted a divorce? Not to mention that it was quite literally created as a National Church, which is why it's called the Church of England in the first place. Pretty nationalist bunch, back during the Empire.>>528006015Funny, that.>>528006039They're not reading the Koine, anon. Come now.
>>528000395>I never said modern Jews>>527997746>>we wuz da real jews>At least you're accepting that christianity is jewish>>528001083>>Synagogue of Satan is fake jews>>we wuz da real Jews!>>528001902>>the english word for Jews didn't exist, because english wasn't invented yet>>therefore jews didn't exist either>Khazar theory was made up and spread by Jews and is totally debunked by DNA studies
>>528005575People hate the Jews because they think they're Gods Chosen, and are subversive, destroying families and nations. They already act like Jesus.Read his subversive teachings.>If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.>Luke 14:26>Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.>Luke 12:51-53>Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father,a daughter against her mother,a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.>Matthew 10:34
>>528006324>gentile womanShe was a CanaaniteDo you ever wonder that if lies are necessary for your criticism to land, you might just be wrong?Because this is a story about the blood enemy of the Jews being blessed right in front of the Pharisees, whom Christ only rebuked.
>>528002661/thread>>528002848You forgot John Hyrcanus's Edomite converts. But yes
>>527998051>Christians like to pick and choose what parts of the Hebrew Torah they want to follow and which parts they don't want to followThat's literally what Jesus came to do.
>>528006565That’s a straw man fallacy.Have you never read a logic and scientific thinking manual?
>>528006039see >>528002729
>>528006235>what people who were killing Him wrote to taunt Him is definitely not slander do not read the bible and see how fake and jewish I am>>528006028No you dumb nigger. They are descendants of Abraham, they are Edomites. They are not Israel. There is nothing complicated or hard to understand here, you are just deliberately trying to invent a weird cope to cling to your hatred of God.
>>527997463Which Jews?"Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel."
>>527997463Salvation = being saved from the Jews.I agree, based Bible quote.
>>528006101They are imbeciles then.If Paul and Jesus Himself spoke respectfully to the Greeks I don't know where anyone gets off shitting on their contributions. And for what? For being born before Jesus? Stupid.
>>528000996Precisely. Jesus came to save the Israelites from the jews.
>>528006673The taunt is that a King shouldn't be in a position like that. The taunt is not "we're calling him a Jew and he isn't lmao that's so funny". Stop coping. There is a reason they called him King of the Jews, and it wasn't because "he wasn't a Jew".
>>527999166I'd like to know what the original word was, that got mistranslated into "jew" in this text
>>527997463Most Christians are content not reading the Bible and this isn't even a dig at Catholics
>>528006565>If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.have fun becoming an apostle and dedicating your life to leaving your people behind and travelling across the world and getting tortured to death while you also have a family to worry about >o you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division "im going to teach people about how god awful the pharisees are and your pharisees-loving parents might not approve"
man the bible is full of all sorts of retarded shit, seriously. like we are supposed to be okay that so old man killed literally a thousand fucking children because they made fun of an old man? you guys realize when you make fun of boomers the bible thinks its cool that a boomer can then come round and wholesale just execute you all?
>>528006764The Romans knew nothing about Him or who or what He was. They knew the jews wanted to kill Him, and that they said He claimed to be the Christ. The Christ is not for jews, He is to save Israel from the jews.
>>528006565add this to the subversive teachings>>528003805
>>528005975>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, unlike Jesus, I'm whiteLol, LMAO even
>>527997463>posts half a sentence. Keep reading. >“Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
OP’s ignorance is brutal.LOL
>>528006427Christ's point is that if you don't follow Him you're doomed to scatter and die because He is the Way, Truth, and Life.These reactions like the one you're replying to are always couched in the assumption that Jesus is not God and was just a guy, which is part of why these convos are so unproductive.Jesus being God is very much the whole point. A lot of what He says would be incredibly arrogant for a random person to say, but it isn't because He isn't.
>>528004784Chistcucks set Europe back 1000 years. Science and philosophy became blasphemy, and brilliant European minds wasted their time arguing about Jewish schizobabble. Not only did it prevent development, vast amounts of accumulated knowledge was either deliberately destroyed or left to rot in favor of coping Jewish texts.
>>528006028>wrong, jesus literally tells them "I know that you are Abraham's descendants", meaning they are literal descendants, but then chastises them for not being true "spiritual descendants" because of their hypocrisy and lack of righteousness.That is your reading. But you are the one who puts the 'spiritual' spin on it. They are what they are, and they are not what they are not. They are of the devil, not of abraham. The dualism of behavior vs 'actual being' is your own head canon. There's no dualism.
Guys I just realised, the reason why Jews took over our society is because all our aristocracy and billionaires were giga christian and followed the bible. Also peasants and priests in the middle ages weren't christian at all, which is why they were so anti semetic.
>>528006673>There is nothing complicated or hard to understand here,so prove it>to cling to your hatred of God.i love god more than you ever will dude, you literally cant even love God because of his association with jews so you have to invent a fucking insane fan fiction to try and separate the two
>>528006962That argument is historically false and very easy to debunk because it contradicts basic facts of European history.
>>527997463>Christian Nationalists oxymoron
>>528006884They knew that he was a Jew who failed a coup attempt and they mocked him for it. You appear to be deluding yourself that Jesus was not a Jew. You think that if a civil war breaks out among Jews that neither party can be Jews since they are "fighting Jews". Please, I implore you, stop coping. I know you rest on mystical explanations to hand wave away the historical reality of Jesus, but for the sake of your own soul, stop it.
>>528006962>Chistcucks set Europe back 1000 yearsAccording to jews making shit up after the fact because they were pissed about getting deported.
>>528006962lmao I was waiting for it
>>528007028Another one even more ignorant than the OP just arrived.
>>528006979>not of abraham."I know that you are Abraham's descendants" - Jesus Christ
>>527997799I totally agree
>>528006995Prove what? Read John.>>528007051>oy vey we called Him a jew you can't just read the bible and see we're lying you have to believe us!1111
>>528007074Nah, you are one speaking, retarded christcuck
>>528007089Evola never read the bible, and he was a retard. "OMG NOW THAT EVERYONE IS ABANDONING GOD SOCIETY IS GOING TO SHIT THIS MUST BE BECAUSE WE USED TO LOVE GOD!1111"
>>528007067>hah! he posted the truth again!
>>528006980The Puritans were the most philosemitic people in history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_England#Resettlement,_1655If you read the above page you'll realise that the history of England is protestants allying themselves with Jews against Catholics/Jacobites/monarchists until their power is completely secure.It's interesting how this goes reverse in the US, where the Jews were the ones allying *with* Catholics against the protestant WASP ascendancy. In both cases the Jews are backing the horse they believe will give them more power. But yes, the protestant obsession with the bible and Christianity is what hypnotised them into loving the Jews so much.
>>528006980kek>>528007051It wasn't a coup attempt by any stretch. Literally the only ones kvetching that Christ was trying to take over were the Sanhedrin and Pharisees trying to weaponize the Romans against Him.You having fanfiction about the past doesn't make you correct.
>>528007096prove they are edomites. what else?
>>528007089Read geneology of morals goy. Its turns out its actually morally good that the jews are shitting on you and eating your babies.
>>528005183>Show me a Christian who shits on the Greeks and I'll show you an imbecile.Jesus celebrated Hanukah, the Jewish holiday commemorating the Maccabean Revolt, where Jewish rebels slaughtered Greeks.
>>527997463Romans 2:28-29Revelation 3:9
>>528007195>allying themselves with jews against other christiansso what you're telling me is that the other christians were against jews
>>528007117Did you just ask ChatGPT lmao>>528007174Show your flag if you believe in that (((truth))) of yours
>>528007204So they were wrong and Jesus wasn't trying to take over even though he had a beer hall putsch moment by flipping over the tables in the temple and then riding to Jerusalem like the March on Rome to confront them (where he got BTFO)? But it wasn't a coup.It wasn't a coup. and he wasn't a Jew either. The amount of self delusion and copes from Christians ITT is just stunning.
>>528007076It's like a black guy coming up to you and saying he is king henry's great grandson and wants to claim his kingdom. And jesus tells him, well no, you are not actually the heir to england.
>>528006606Canaanites are gentiles retard.
>>528007307>my controlled opposition movement is actually a real opposition because I'm dumb and I want it to be realNothing new under the sun
>>528006565>luke 14Because to be christs disciple was a road that ended in estrangement and execution they were going to hurt those they loved in death. This was not something he asked of everyone, only his disciples.I also highly recommend reading the parable immediately before this verse you posted. It is one of MANY times Christ said>you Pharisees reject me, and I will reject you in favor of othersAnd he immediately turned and sought those others to begin.This is over and over and over in the New Testament. >dividing familiesWas he wrong? Do you expect him to lie? No one was walking the path, and many are unwilling to walk it. Obviously this will cause strife. It still does today. >MatthewThis was a message directed explicitly NOT toward gentiles. It is spelt out in the same chapter. Still, the previous answer applies for the same reasons.Now what of all Jews living a life of poverty spending their time healing people?What if all Jews ran into banks and began whipping the money changers?What if all Jews were willing to die for you?What if all Jews spent their time asking for an end to degeneracy and filth?Would you hate them?
>>528007256And?Celebrating a holiday commemorating a war between the Jews and Seleucids means what, exactly?
>>528007323>>Did you just ask ChatGPT lmaoProbably. I found and saved that pic in other chriscucks threads, but it is totally valid. Cope christcuck.
>>528006906As usual, context is anti-semitic.
>>528007096>oy veyyy we're the Roman Empire oy gevaltttt where's my gefilte fish and brisket oyy veeeeyyy I'm a Roman imperial officer oh my gawd my glassesJesus was a Jew.
>>528007389if you think talmudic jews have been totally controlling europe for 2000 years just give up and convert to judaism. Orthodox jews will actually let you convert after going to synagogue for 3 years.
>>528007256The Selucid empire, right?
>>527997463lots of cope itt.
>>528007323sure
>>528007380Well anon the verse says Canaanite or syrophoenecian.Is there a particular reason you decided to jot that tittle?
>>528007448Your reasoning:“A” writes the universal rules “you shall not kill” and “you shall not lie.”But “A” is bad, with verifiable evidence.Therefore, the universal law “you shall not kill” and “you shall not lie” is invalidated.Reasoning isn’t your thing.
>>528007346It wasn't a coup. He had no army, committed no violence, and explicitly told His followers not to overthrow the Romans or Herod. You are reaching so hard to be a contrarian that you're halfway across the table.
>>528007485I don't think that, I think Christianity is a symbiosis between Euros and Jews that arose from interactions between them. Just like how 2nd Temple Judaism arose from symbiosis between them and Egyptians. I think throwing away Christianity would disadvantage Jews because the more bible obsessed one is, the more philosemitic one becomes and the Puritans are the biggest example of that.
>>528007571I applaud you for that. Memeflags are beyond faggy.You're still incorrect but now at least I know you're not a giant loser. That makes a big difference.
>>528006630>That's literally what Jesus came to do.Didn't do a very good job in clarifying things, otherwise we wouldn't have to rely Saul the Pharisee's "trust me bro, Jesus personally sent me the updated terms of service".
>>528007645awww thanks. your still coping lol
>>528000676At least they can use a toilet.
>>528007591The apostles were his Lieutenants. Have you read the story in Acts about Ananias and Sapphira? It reads like a scene directly from the Sopranos. Ananias is "holding out" on money from "the Holy Spirit" and refuses to give it up, so the "Holy Spirit" whacks him right then and there to teach him a lesson, capiche.>explicitly told His followers not to overthrow the Romans or HerodBecause he needed their support against the Pharisees.
>>528007357correct, they are literal disencdants, they are the "great great grand son", but their dont have the claim because of their actions, because of their hypocrisy and lack righteousness, because they reject the Christ. hence why jesus tells them ""I know that you are Abraham's descendants...BUT..." anyway to get back to the main point here, the fact is , they are literally the lost sheep of the house of israel, their lack of righteousness shown in this passage is the "lost part", and you know, when jesus says "im talking only to the lost sheep of the house of israel right now" the literal people he is preaching to are 2nd temple jews including the pharisees. that fact alone alone complete refutes your retarded argument anyway
>>528007589>"A is evil so murder is ok now”peak midwit moment kek
>>528007546Yes. Under Antiochus IV.A multiethnic hodgepodge of Greeks, Syrians, and Persians, amusingly. Notoriously not the height of Hellenic or even Hellenistic culture.
>>528006962>no fino-hyper warPost the real graph. >>528007117
>>527997463>Jesus came from Jews>Jews rejected Jesus>Jesus came to save all mankind, Jew or notSimple as
>>528007614Did you know that jews are actually afraid of their people becoming messianic jews and leaving their religion? They seethe more about that than Islam. Jesus was their messiah, and by his logic talmudic jews are bottom of the barrel evil and satanic. If you want an explaination on why they have so much power its because our elites arent christian at all, same as how islamic elites arent muslim, and have interbred with the jews to gain access to wealth, because usury was banned. Part of the reason usury was banned is because thats the vehicle jews use to control people.
>>528007235Seriously? Who was the actual king of the jews?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great
>>528007569Interesting, but believable.
>>528007754Pure meaningless meme.I’ve already figured out your pattern of behavior and rhetoric, Moshe…You people are so predictable.Were you generated with the n8n program?
>>528007476>oy vey we invented pastrami!111Gave yourself away again, Chaim.
>>528007664>if people listen to an anti-Christ Jesus warned us about that makes Jesus wronguh...
>>528007870I have posted elsewhere that I believe Christianity is a contrived, fake, controlled opposition "anti-semitic" religion to hoodwink gullible people like you into thinking supporting this religion which has the most Jewiest origins of all fucking time, into thinking it is actually somehow against them. I have made the comparison with conservative politicians who defiantly pretend to oppose progressive liberal reforms but then secretly agree with them all. This is what I believe Christianity is. I think it's a containment box for the goy. I believe your ideas about the sincerity of its opposition to Jewry is a delusion.
>>528006877Bro, that was the Old Testament god Yahweh. It was written by the good kind of Jews (nothing to do with modern Jews). Yahweh forgave us for the things our ancestors did to make him lose his temper, that was the whole point of incarnating as his own son for an elaborate human sacrifice.
>>528007871any minute now im sure you will articulate your point
>>528007743If you think His plan was for the Romans to back him against their Herodian pets that's wild. Some idea for a coup.Ultimately if you just exclusively read the text looking for how it is about A Man Who Started a Cult / Gang / Rebellion that's what you're going to see. It's like how progressives make every male friendship in history or literature into a where's waldo of gays.>>528007732Genuinely much less irritating now that I know you're an Aussie. Just like you goobers too much.
>>528007927>be christcuck >get absolutely bodied on logic >“h-he’s a jewish ai using n8n!!1”
>>528008013>oy vey no we're not Edomites>no stop noticing that the king of the jews was an Edomite!
>>528007940>Dude I'm literally a Jew, I'm the descendent of King David, I come to the Jews to offer them salvation, they call me King of the Jews, my apostles refuse to dine with gentiles lol>Hey I think this guy might be a Jew>HOW DAREEEE YOUUUU, HE IS ACTUALLY A MYSTICAL PARADOX ANTi-JEW INVERSION NEXUS POINT IN JUDAISM FUCK YOU FUCK YOUI'm tired of this. You must know you're coping. Deep down you must know.
>>528007993For the record, I get it. I entirely disagree, but I understand why you think what you think.It's at least a good faith reason to dislike Christianity that isn't founded in reddit cheeto dust nonsense so that puts it head and shoulders above most of what I see here.
>>528007995no, its dumb.>yeah i know the future and everything and im gonna change all these rules because i know they fail and are dumb but im gonna do this anyways so thatlmao no. its ridiculous to say "no its the old testament that says dont eat pigs they are filthy and disgusting", but be like "well they are clean and okay to eat now because he changed his mind lol"
>>528008045>if you just read the text critically and use your brain, then you'll make the mistake of seeing things accuratelyOkay, my bad
>>528008075LOL.Whatever you say, false-flag Jew.
>>528007748>but their dont have the claim because of their actions, because of their hypocrisy and lack righteousness, because they reject the Christ.No you have it reversed. They reject the christ because they are not of abraham. That's why they don't recognize jesus because they have a mutted up line that has nothing to do with abraham.
>>528007993I think you're historically illiterate and are projecting the past 200 years back on the past 2000 years. Also what you actually need to do is to get involved with reviving paganism or whatever alternative you think would be better than christianity. Having atheism as an alternative is seriously retarded.
Christians deal with it by picking and choosing which parts they believe in, and which parts they ignore.
>>528008196It's not your bad. Unlike what a lot of Prots say this whole thing is a lot more than just the Bible alone anyway.There is nothing wrong with reading scripture critically and not being convinced. That's a lot better than just taking everything you read at face value.
>>528008117once again im waiting for you to articulate what point you think you are making, the pharisees and entire 2nd temple era jewish population were not all blood relatives of king herodwhen jesus says “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel"who was he preaching to? it sure seems to me like virtually everyone he engaged with, with the odd exception, was a 2nd temple era jew including the pharisees, indicating that those people were the sheep of israel. paul himself, a pharisee, is identified by the bible as of the people of israel
>>528008415I'm gonna be real I have no clue at this point what all the kvetching about edomites and such is. I'd like an answer as well.
>>527997500It is "true" until the real scripture is discovered or find it.
>>527997463ancient jews do not equal modern jews, back then they had the right religion up until Christ now Christianity is the right religion. like all idiots you take the Bible out of context
>>528008284exept you are still completely ignoring the part where jesus acknowledges that they are Abraham's descendantsyou are also ignoring the part where they fall under the label of israel inherently as per the fact that jesus comes first to preach to them and other 2nd temple jews as "lost sheep of the house of israel"
>>528008156I also understand why Christians believe their religion is the best shot at uniting people spiritually and culturally. The weight of millennia and cultural inertia means it takes a special brand of autism or stubborness to stand athwart it. In my darker moments I think about the evolution of the cuckoo bird and how it has hoodwinked its host birds into accepting the cuckoo eggs in the nest. The host birds who resist and attempt to fight back and often mauled and destroyed by the cuckoo, their genetic lineage placed at peril. The ones who co-operate with their cucking are rewarded by not having their eggs destroyed. A symbiosis emerges between two mutually hostile life forms. The shabbos goyim who co-operate are showered with riches. The ones who resist are destroyed. Maybe I don't want to co-operate.
>>528007089These losers need to start going to church and convince their fellow christcucks, cause apparently every single church in the world has got it all wrong and only the terminally online e-crusaders figured out that Jesus was an aryan nationalist who hated jews.
>>528008534I already explained the analogy with the nigger. It doesn't matter if he has a descendant who is king henry, you can just look at him and tell he is not the heir to england. It's like that. Even if there is the technicality on paper, the reality is they are fraudulently pretending to be something they are not.
>>528008686>It doesn't matter if he has an ancestor who is king henry
>>528008655Pure meaningless meme.I’ve already figured out your pattern of behavior and rhetoric, Moshe…You people are so predictable.Were you generated with the n8n program?
>>528008655Have you actually read genealogy of morals or are you larping?
>>528008324The viability of non-Christian spiritualism as a political rallying point is very interesting but I think basically a non-starter. You can't put the cart before the horse and just push some contrived religion and hope it magically turns your civilisation around. All these things are tied together, and our fate is tied to the mast of this post-Christian empire. Also any religion which is for the masses (which is what a political unifying religion must be) will inherently become base and cringe, simplified and watered down. I like difficult to understand things with high barriers to entry, esoteric mystery cults and so on. These have almost no political utility but they can select for the right sorts of people, and they can create a few sparks in the darkness which is all we can really do.
>>528008538As the Bible itself says it's far better to be cold or hot than lukewarm. Cooperating with something you are truly convinced is evil is genuinely a soul destroying thing. Resisting in such a way can actually be much more virtuous than the Christians who just uncritically follow the path of least resistance without ever once really trying to encounter Jesus.That's the be all end all. I believe Jesus is the Living God so I am a Christian. If you don't then I don't fault you at all for not being one.
>>528007546yeah>>528007442>aNd!?Jews celebrate killing goyim. Jesus was a Jew.
>>528008885I'm happy for you
>>528008781He’s a false-flag Jew.Analyze the pattern of behavior.
>>528008655It shows you how malleable and adaptive Christianity can be. It can be anything to anyone with the right salesman to pitch it. You guys like winter festivals? Well you're not gonna believe this, but we have our very own one and it's almost the exact same as yours, only with Jesus thrown in! What are the odds?
>>528007412Sounds like the leader of any death cult.
>>528008903The other anon and I were discussing present-day Christians who hate and shit on the Greeks, which I think is retarded for a dozen reasons.You proceded to share Jesus celebrating Hannukah as an example, which is a complete non-sequitur.The Macabees made a holiday commemorating them winning independence from the Seleucid Empire through battle and you boiled that down to 'celebrating the killing of Goyim' like its a holiday about tossing Greek children into the mouths of crocodiles.I'm not debating with you because there's no debate here. I'm just explaining this for the benefit of others.>>528008910Thank you anon. Good luck on your search and I hope you find what you're looking for.
The Cult of Amun which flourished in the New Kingdom had some superficial resemblances to Christianity. I think all political religions have a universal form where the deity is presented as a man of the people whitemeat babyface who cares about you but is also a badass, and believing in him helps support the state because the state is his voice/representatives. It's just a cultural attractor/stable point which will independently evolve again and again with the details swapped around.
>>528008686the problem is you are completely making up a racial element that does not existthey are the literally descendants but they dont pass the shit test because of their actions, specifically seeking to kill Christ and lacking his word which proves they are not his true children, as true descendants share his faith, not just his bloodline. this is the universal explanation of this passage, if you have your own head canon interpretation you're going to have to back it up
>>528009232Sol Invictus as well. Although Aten was a weird sun disc, which more maps with the Islamic thing of 'God as faceless eldritch horror'.
>>528009234>the problem is you are completely making up a racial element that does not existIt does exist. Jews (who were then pharisees) are canaanite mutts
>>528009187So no answer, got it
>>528009405Aten was Akhenaten realising he had no power as the actual pharaoh since the Amun priests had become an effective oligarchy who monopolised the entire economy and he knew their power rested on the Amun narrative, so he tried to break it by denying Amun, calling him a bitch, and then trying to push his new bizarre sun disc as some cool new champion which nobody bought because it's lame as fuck. Akhenaten is fascinating historically since there is a lot of murkiness around him and the "origin of monotheism". People will roll their eyes when I recommend this, but Sigmund Freud wrote an absolutely balls to the wall book about Moses where he claimed all kinds of crazy shit about him being one of Akhenaten's priests who was murdered by his own people and their guilt about it eventually grew into a cult about him in Exodus. It's some very wacky shit.
>>527997463Jesus came to fulfill. Salvation comes from the Jews according to the Old testament which is what he fulfilled.
>>528008161>god creates man in his image>foreskin gives him the ick>instead of fixing it he makes his most devout followers mutilate their babiesThe whole thing is Jewish schizo babble. Pure insanity
>>528009661I'll look that up. I hardly ever agree with Freud but I agree reading him is almost always a good time. Dude took huge swings.The degree to which Aten was a failure of branding is one I think about often, inlcuding in relation to why progressives and globalists are seeing so much pushback I think.People gravitate towards things like Communism and Fascism because they look cool, whereas neoliberalism and progressivism constantly shoot themselves in the foot by being lame as hell.
>>528006962Hey, Atheist here. How did this get made? How was it measured? You're not using something like average human lifespan? Poser.
>>528009937It's a political failure, you have to aim and pitch to people where they're currently at. Christianity was successful at this, didn't rock the boat too hard unless it was necessary. If you change things too quick (woke/Aten/Bolsheviks) you'll breed resentment.
>>528009445anon the physical israel was literally located in canaan, previously and concurrently occupied by Canaanites. it was conquered from canannites and Jews interbred with cananites, they captured prisoners and integrated them into their society as is written in the OT. of course the people living there had cananite DNA its literally in fucking canaan. soundly you are now moving the goal post and changing the subject them being "mutted" has no bearing whatsoever on the subject we are talking about https://www.bibleref.com/John/8/John-8-37.html>Jesus is aware that the religious leaders of Jerusalem and their followers—called "the Jews" here in the gospel of John—are the descendants of Abraham. However, they are not really part of God's family since they don't accept the message of God. https://www.sharing-bread.com/commentary/john-8-37-38In response to the arrogant and boastful claim of the Jews, Jesus states He was fully aware of their physical lineage to Abraham. On the other hand, their desire to kill Him demonstrated their willful ignorance and lack of understanding in regards to His coming. Jesus was the very fulfillment of the promise given to Abraham – all the way back in Genesis - by the God of promisehttps://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/john-8-37.htmlIn answer to the other part of the Jews' objection to Christ, and in favour of themselves, Christ owns that they were the natural seed of Abraham; for truth must be allowed to an adversary. But then this hindered not but they might be, as they were, in moral bondage to sin, and a generation of vipers, as those of them who came to John's baptism were; and might not be the sons of God, for not because they were the natural seed of Abraham, were they all the adopted sons of God; and might be cast out of the house of God, as Ishmael was cast out of Abraham's, though he was his natural seed
>>528008121lol the copes they come up with are hilarious. These low IQ retards give themselves strokes frantically coming up with fanfic where Jesus wasn't a jew.
>>528010010uh...it...it literally says the measurement on the bottom axis. it...it says it right fucking there. BCE. a system to measure years. wha...what do you think it means?
>>528010037>Jews interbred with cananitesYes>them being "mutted" has no bearing whatsoever on the subject we are talking aboutIt absolutely does. The entire topic is about heredity. The thread is began with a passage in which jesus calls some woman a dog due to her not being part of his tribe. Jesus is racially aware.
>>528010264>It absolutely does. by all means prove it then because literally every website and priest in any denomination you consult will say you are wrongJesus does not scorn them because they are "mutts", he scorns them because they are spiritually dead due to their rejection of the messiah and their hypocrisy please anon, i implore you, provide a shred of evidence that this is not the case >The thread is began with a passage in which jesus calls some woman a dog due to her not being part of his tribeyet he preaches to pharisees and other 2nd temple jews , by your own logic indicating that they are part of his tribe, meaning by your own logic, you are wrong
>>528009494There's no way you can spin a Jewish rabbi preaching "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple." as something beneficial to whites.
>>528010478He tells them they are not of abraham. That is as straightforward as it gets. Your refusal to understand plain spoken word is your own problem.
>>528010478>yet he preaches to pharisees and other 2nd temple jews , by your own logic indicating that they are part of his tribe, meaning by your own logic, you are wrongNo this is just a cope you keep coming with. Even the woman in the story who is not even related to the temple, he blesses her too. You're an idiot grasping at straws at this point.
>>528002314>there is a myth>about a boat>carrying God’s chosen>it lands in the Caucasus mountain>where white people originated fromStrangest of all:>white supremecists think it’s made up.
>>528010759He blesses her IN SPITE of her being a goyim >>528006324
>>528010527To be fair anon, I’m still waiting on you to spin how if all Jews behaved like Jesus does it would be a bad thing.So far, you only have jesus saying what’s going to happen to those who follow him, and what sort he is looking for. (And he was right, by the way)
>>528008121>Dude I'm literally a JewNever says that, suggests it, or implies it. Jews were the Edomite/Canaanite mongrels that took over Judea. Jesus was an Israelite, and came FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL. Not for jews. Every single mention of Jesus and jews is always as Jesus telling them they are evil, or them hating Him or wanting to kill Him.
>>528010636>He tells them they are not of abraham.but he acknowledges they are abrahams literal physical, genetic descendants >"I know that you are Abraham's descendantsbut they are "not of abraham" because of their actions in rejecting him, not because of a one drop rule genetic purity test>but you are trying to kill Me because My word has no place within you.if you disagree with this literal and universally excepted interpretation then i say prove it, give one single shred of evidence that this rebuking was because they weren't genetically pure enough
>>528010866>So far, you only have jesus saying what’s going to happen to those who follow him, and what sort he is looking for.Everything comes with the threat of what's going to happen to those who don't follow the King of the Jews.
>>527997697It's all retarded jewish fairytales from the middle east and always without fail is an institution of child rape
>>528008415>who was he preaching to?Israelites. He sends the apostles to the Israelites. He outright AVOIDS THE JEWS. His interactions with jews are always Him preaching to Israelites, and jews pulling their "oy vey that's not true we know better because our tradition of the elders says so" shit.>paul himself, a pharisee, is identified by the bible as of the people of israelSaul himself does not matter, Jesus does. And Jesus specifically warned His followers not to believe a false apostle that would come preaching a different gospel. You know, Saul.
>>528010918Stop lying to yourself! Stop twisting words! Stop being dishonest! Stop coping!
>>528011019That was what would happen to those that DID follow him, anon.Its honestly wild that you people don’t even read the verses you paste in these threads, much less the greater context.
>>528009109That's like saying "shows you how malleable and adaptive sex can be" because trannies lie. Some faggot claiming to be a woman does not make "woman" some mysterious thing nobody can understand.
>>528011194Christianity can pretend to be anything you want and you retards will defend it
>>528011006>but he acknowledges they are abrahams literal physical, genetic descendants Just as with the nigger analogy, who is a descendant of king henry, you can acknowledge the technicality WHILE ALSO denying practical reality of their claim. >>528011006>but they are "not of abraham" because of their actions in rejecting himHe doesn't say that. You are reversing the causality of what he actually says. He says if they WERE abraham's, then they WOULD know jesus. That is not an optional that they can become abrahams if they just act the right way. It's a statement about who they are inherently
>>528011181And that's nothing compared to an eternity in hell if you reject him. Turning against your family and getting killed to prove your loyalty is the easy road compared to what he'll do to you if you don't.
