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>solves degeneracy
>solves nihilism
>solves philosophy
>solves gender relations
>solves death
>solves human will
>solves political tribalism
>solves race relations
>names Jews as prideful servants of satan
>is the center of European civilisation for 1500 years
>stands against every attempt to tear his word down
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>>528002139
Amen. Jesus is LORD
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>>528002139
got killed by kikes lmao
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>>528002139
>solves everything
>world is still shit
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>>528002266
For your sins and theirs
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>>528002139
>isn't real
>mysticism that over-complicates the truth and makes people argue
>metaphor too complicated for the plebs and proles
Just call em as you see em. No need for skydaddy bullshit.
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>>528002139
You can say the same thing about Mohamed
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>>528002139
>solves degeneracy
Its still here
>solves nihilism
"Father father, why have you forsaken me" if God doubts himself then how can a man have faith in anything
>solves philosophy
Clearly not when his own followers kill each other over interpetation
>solves gender relations
"Neither male nor female" yet his followers act like trannies are the number 1 issue in the world
>solves death
Proof?
>solves human will
Nope. Because his followers can't agree on if we have free will or if god is soverign over our will
>solves political tribalism
Is that why his followers fractured into 6 gorillion sects?
>solves race relations
Clearly not as there's still racism
>names Jews as prideful servants of satan
He named the rabbis as such. He was a jew and so were his early followers.
>is the center of European civilisation for 1500 years
Not quite. I'd say he was arguably decentered in the Renaissance and at the very least the enlightenment
>stands against every attempt to tear his word down
Really? I haven't seen him do anything in the last 2000 years to prevent people attacking his word.
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>is literally "king of the jews"

Has there ever been a worse non-starter, controlled psyop religion than christcuckery?
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>>528002343
Think you’re the first fedora wearing fag with bitch ties to deny Jesus? It’s always the pathetic ones, can’t say I blame ya for not feeling the love of God ugly
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>>528002387
Judaism is the only one I can think of
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>>528002343
>God is a big bearded bloke in the sky! And he’s a big meanie!
Lmao. God is the first mover. Pure act. Ipsum Esse Subsistens.
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>>528002139
>just worship the Jew
>more Jew worship will fix everything
Fuck off
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>>528002139
The original Marx
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>>528002381
solving a problem ≠ applying the solution
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I want to believe but his mission failed.
If god wanted to make sure chuds on earth got the massage, xe could and would send another son or sign of some sorts
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>>528002139
Christ is the final rabbit hole
Everyone that gets filtered is due to pride
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>>528002521
>OMG I SOLVED EVERYTHING WITH COMMUNISM
*fails 6 gorillion times*
>Uh you're just not applying it right

If your solution can't be applied then I don't care.
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>>528002614
Exhibit A
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>>528002614
i made non of those statements
are you nonsgaytard?
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>>528002580
If you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
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>>528002696
True (Protestantism is false but we can quarrel later)
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>>528002500
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>>528002580
Yeah because pretending you're special and holy because you worship an entity, totally isn't pride, right? As if we don't have regular examples of Christians being liars and charlatans. I do recall a certain e-grifter Christcuck larper that cheated on her husband and got an abortion ;)
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>>528002696
How do you believe something with no evidence?
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>>528002692
You can't claim he solved anything if it's impossible to imply. If he actually solved shit it should be solved. Otherwise anybody can claim they solved every problem in the world if you require 0 evidence of it actually working.
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>>528002807
>Here I will strawman your position and I don't know anything about theology, I'm just going to cope and seethe
Exhibit B
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>>528002139
>sits in my bedroom
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>>528002139
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!!
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>>528002851
>i am le smart, you are le wrong
Yawn.
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>>528002849
*apply
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>>528002909
>Posts strawman
>This is a strawman
>You called out my error? Yaaawn
Exhibit C
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>>528002139
false
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>>528002797
catholicucks btfo
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>>528002381
>SOURCE?!
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>>528002981
And yet, tens of billions throughout history have professed Christ as Lord, meanwhile pagan temples are mere rubble that tourists rarely even bother to visit.
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>>528002976
>doesn't explain what the strawman is
>types a bunch of buzzwords instead
Wow what a genius debater I am owned
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>>528003033
jesus was a jew, you worship a jew
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>>528002381
UM PWOOF??????
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>>528002372
Most people prefer Muslims over Christians because Muslims want jews dead while Christians defend jews
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>>528002849
Christcucks are in a cult, I almost feel bad fucking with them, until I remember that their jewish branch religion is responsible for the downfall of Europe, then I don't feel so guilty
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>>528003071
What you call Jews today are not Jews of Christs time.
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>>528003033
>it's popular, so it must be true!
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>>528003033
Billions of people also watch the Kardashians and follow goyslop sports. Since when did alignment with the masses (median IQ between 80 to 99 depending on country) ever matter?
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>>528003092
>Christ is the reason for Europes downfall
>European empires conquer the planet while believing in Christ
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>>528002423
Christianity is Judaism you illiterate drooling half a nigger
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>>528003054
>Posts strawman
>This is a strawman
>HEY MAN WHY DON'T YOU JUST WASTE YOUR TIME EFFORT POSTING TO SOMEONE THAT HAS NO INTEREST
I don't debate, I only shine a spotlight on what you people do, sorry if you don't like attention being brought to it
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>>528002139
Jesus Christ is the Son of the Jewish God Yahweh. Christianity is a sect of Judaism. Every Christian is a Jew.
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>>528002139
Christ is King.
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>>528002139
Amen.
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>>528002981
Jesus Christ = Julius Caesar

>The initials
>Caesar was from Gaul
>Jesus was from Galilee
>Corfinium is the first city Caesar occupies
>Cafarnaum is the first city Jesus enters
>Caesar crossed the Rubicon
>Jesus crossed the Jordan
>Julius was betrayed by Brutus
>Jesus was betrayed by Judas
>Julius had 23 wounds (2+3=5)
>Jesus had 5 wounds
>Both were deified after their deaths
>Caesar’s death created the Roman Empire
>Christ’s death created the Holy Roman Church
>Both died on the 15th day of the month
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>>528003164
What European in their right mind would care about conquering the planet?
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>>528003107
cool story bro, but people like picrel undermine your claim, nice try though
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>>528003011
>>528003084
>I believe things without a reason to
Amazing
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>>528003192
Oh no! We’re all Jews! Quick! Panick everyone! We are all Jews it’s over. Every Christian, every European, every king and peasant, has been a Jew all along! Save us Odin!
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>>528003170
>wastes his time writing up multiple posts
>doesn't address the actual point even once
>keeps writing more buzzwords
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>>528002372
>solves death
No.
Jews have not solved that problem with Judaism, or any of its derivative works.
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>>528003165
No it isn't you dumb idiot. Christ creates an entirely new Covenant
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>528003220
>Caesar was from Gaul
he was from rome you dumbass memeflag
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>>528002895
>it will be nothingness for eternity!!
the sinner told himself, desperately
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>>528003297
>Wastes time
I haven't wasted my time this far, I am highlighting that you have proven my point this entire time
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>>528002828
I cannot prove it scientifically but I can prove it by the lives he transforms everyday, because in my heart I don’t say I think, I hope, I say I KNOW. There’s another element in our lives we don’t think much about and that’s the element of FAITH, you think about the faith you have to have everyday, you have faith in the bank when you write a check and cash it, you have to have faith in the government when you pull out a dollar bill, now I know it’s shrunken but Trump is fixing that but you have FAITH that behind it is a dollar, that people will accept it as money. Everything is by faith, the last time you went out to eat before you sat down in your chair did you pick it up and examine it? I bet you didn’t put your hands on it and make sure it would hold you? By faith you just sat down it, you had faith that someone wouldn’t build a chair that wasn’t going to hold you. Everything we do is by faith, take that same faith and put it in Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior and you will KNOW who Jesus is, You accept him by faith, and he comes into your life and into your heart and you know Jesus is who he claims to be.
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>>528003220
Yes, Jesus was a nigger, everyone knows that. You still can't get pussy lololololol
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>>528003385
Don't pretend you're without sin you fucking fake Christian
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>>528003403
>Protestant effort-posting about his feelings
Nobody cares, if you're going to effort-post to nonbelievers then you have to start with philosophy
Go look up St. Thomas Aquinas, otherwise you're not helping and you just make us look like idiots
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>>528002895
Mr. LL again. So you RAN AWAY FROM THE OTHER THREAD? AHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHA
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>is fake
imagine being a christcuck in the big 2026? y'all stupid fr
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>>528003220
Jesus Christ wasn’t even his name. Christ is a title. Jesus the Christ. Caesar had 27 wounds and was from Rome. The “holy Roman church” explicitly rejected the Roman gods. The Roman and Jewish calendar were different.
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>>528003477
No man is without sin. That’s the entire point of the incarnation. Have you even read the Bible.
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>>528003220
This is what Richard Carrier fans look like. Fucking retards.
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>>528002828
>define evidence
>define what constitutes as evidence
>explain why evidence leads you to truth
>why should truth be an outcome of the evidence you consider reliable
materialists never think about anything their beliefs entail. Evidence itself has metaphysical claims embedded within it which can't be proven. God is Real because Being is Real. Relationality with Being requires Incarnation of which Christ fulfills.

Read Aquinas and Augustine.
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>>528002139
Bless you Brother. Hope you will be at Mass tomorrow.
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>>528003364
yu may be correct about hailing from gaul, but both caesar and jesus did still begin their careers in neighboring states in the north: gallia and galilee.
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>>528003526
pretty much every historian agrees Jesus existed.
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>>528003403
>I cannot prove it
Exactly. Now shut the fuck up.
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>>528002139
Anyone else get a voice in their head that starts blaspheming Christ whenever you see a picture of him?
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>>528003489
Judge someone else faggot. Think you’re holier than me? I’d knock your teeth right out boy, and make you kiss my pinky ring whether you liked it or not. I’d make you weep at my feet
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>>528003664
Just like every medical expert believed you should get vaccinated? LOL!
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>>528003673
You are possessed. Seek Christ's Catholic Church.
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>>528003669
You take it on faith. You choose to believe. If Christs divinity was evident to everyone and undeniable, there would be no such thing as choosing. No free will.
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>>528003699
>Just like every medical expert believed you should get vaccinated? LOL!
Atheists were the #1 group to take the vax (90% rate) retard. Atheists are also the most likely group to say "Jesus doesn't exist". They no longer operate in reality.
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>>528003679
>Hey dumb ass, you're not helping
>YOU THINK YOU'RE HOLIER THAN ME?
No, you're just self indulging about your feelings rather than being interested in using effective means of getting people to Christ
Grow up, this isn't about you
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>>528003699
No, nothing like that at all. A lazy response. False equivalence.
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>>528003730
Why not take Islam on faith? Or Scientology?
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>>528003597
Lmao notice its always the same pilpul with Christniggers where they attempt to play the game of semantics, definition, and moving the argument into an entirely different direction rather than staying on topic. We have made enough empirical observations from physical evidence to build complex machines and communicate across continents using pulses of light. Yet we still have no evidence of Yahweh, the national god of Israel being real nor Jesus resurrecting from the dead and being god.
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>528003753
christianity leads directly to atheism, julianus the philosopher and porphyry of tyre both noticed this ages ago
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>>528002381
He's quoting a psalm, not doubting
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>>528003876
>christianity leads directly to atheism
Wrong faggot.
Atheists believe in
>900 genders
>men can get pregnant
>take 40 vax shots for a non-lethal flu
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>>528003755
Where did I make it about me. I gave my best paraphrase of a great quote from the legendary pastor Billy Graham about faith. Fuck off. And I took the time to write it out which isn’t the easiest thing to do, it’s a long quote. Well why would I do that? Because if one person reads it and feels strongly about the message as I do then how can it be a bad thing? You’re the one who’s awful at spreading the love of Christ. Durrrr ya if ya just go read Aquinas and indulge on everything but the word of Christ you’ll be saved Protestant. Hahahahahahahahahahaha https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=vPc9mcfFrgY&t=618s
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Niggers attack no way around it nigger
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>>528003935
>r/atheism image
This is what you retards look like nowadays.
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>>528003802
>its an entirely different direction to point out the absurdity of the exact argument given
>inability for (You) to understand criticism means it must be semantics
holy shit LOL LMAO EVEN. literal retard argument
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>>528002139
>Christkikes unironically worship this demon
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>>528004042
And this is what you look like
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>>528004095
Atheists worship
>900 genders
>men can get pregnant
>take 40 vax shots for a non-lethal flu
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>>528004024
>Literally cannot even fathom that he's in the wrong about anything
Protestants are as prideful as nonbelievers, you people are insufferable
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>>528004122
Guy is handsome. He just made the mistake of trusting some dumb bitch I'd still rather be him than what atheists look like.
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>>528002139
Dumb gay religion for dumb gay retards and recovering drug addicts. Everyone knows Jews are evil and you don't have to be in a cuckold cult to say it.
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>>528004050
Notice, more words entirely unrelated to the initial argument. Not only do Christniggers worship Jews, they even argue like Jews.
>where is the evidence
"Uhhh akshually we have to take a step back here and analyze what even counts as evidence. As you can see... 2,000 years ago in soviet russia a philosopher prince decided that evidence is actually... bla bla".

Kill yourself, my man.
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>>528004161
>Dumb gay religion for dumb gay retards and recovering drug addicts.
See >>528004125
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>>528002254
Great thread and great FPBP
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>528003999
>faggot
>muh genders
one of the first converts to christianity was a transgender black man, it's in your bible
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>>528003782
It is evident a divine being exists. Existence itself is proof of ordered creation. Monotheism makes more sense than polytheism. All polytheistic gods are contingent within reality. God is outside reality, created it and willed it. Pure being. In order to make himself known to humanity and offer us life beyond death, the creator incarnated to show us the way and pay our debt for our misdeeds against a divine order. Man sins, commits wrong and is evil. Thus, we are estranged from the created goodness. The largest religion in human history, that completely upended all previous pagan and animistic systems, taught an exceedingly moral way for man to live and treat one another, and is historically corroborated by numerous sources, that deals with these exact issues (death, suffering, man’s propensity to evil), exists. It cannot be disproven to this day, and has stood the test of time for 2000 years. It offers salvation to all men, no mystery cult, secret gnosis or payment to a god required.

You take a lot of things on faith. Everything actually. You take the assumption that the sun will rise tomorrow on faith that the natural laws will hold as they did yesterday. You take your own identity on faith you were still the same man you were yesterday. You take it on faith that food will still nourish you and water will still hydrate you. What informs this faith? Past experience and belief that the laws of reality will hold.

You are asked to state the fate of your soul on this. That God is real, man is fallen, and God incarnated into man, died for man’s faults, rose again on the third day and will grant eternal life to all those who believe in him and follow his ways. Islam is an offshoot of Christianity developed by an Arabian warlord. Ask yourself why they venerate Jesus and the Virgin Mary. It says that the final word of salvation, does not come from God himself as man, but Muhammad.
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>>528004255
>one of the first converts to christianity was a transgender black man,
Sure thing, retard.
Atheists: STOP POINTING OUT THAT ATHEISTS BELIEVE IN DUMB ANTI SCIENCE SHIT! ONLY WE CAN POINT OUT THAT CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN DUMB ANTI SCIENCE SHIT!
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>>528002139
>solves degeneracy
Degeneracy is bad because it makes you and your community weak.
Christianity cuts the middleman and just preaches weakness as the end in itself.

>solves nihilism
Coping it's all part of an omniscient God's plan logically ends in "nothing really matters, God meant for things to be this way anyway" being de facto analogous to nihilism. The promise of reward in the afterlife also promotes detachment, which once again mirrors nihilisms' flaws.

>solves philosophy
You can't "solve philosophy"

>solves gender relations
It really doesn't.

>solves death
Shit theology on death.
Nobody deserves eternal punishment, or eternal reward, (which stops being rewarding after a while).
Which frames the God as arbitrary, sadistic and luciferian in it's gifts.

>solves human will
It doesn't. It's actually a massive contradiction that it fails to address even though it tried for hundreds of years (the fact it tried so hard to address this issue means it's self aware enough of it's internal inconsistency).

>solves political tribalism
The treatment is worse than the disease.

>solves race relations
The treatment is worse than the disease.

>names Jews as prideful servants of satan
It's just as subversive as jews in all aspects.

>is the center of European civilisation for 1500 years
If the rule you followed led you to this, what use was that rule?

>stands against every attempt to tear his word down
Ok
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>>528004173
Dimwit can't understand the simple necessity of free will
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>>528004279
>there is order and patterns in the universe so the only rational explanation is that actually it was all made by a Jewish priest who impregnated his own teenage mom running around ancient Israel

Lol, lmao.
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>>528004143
Yep, I was an altar boy at an Episcopal church until I was 16, did YOU do that? I carried a cross and lead the procession in the nations cathedral in Washington DC, did you DO that? I practically worked for the church for free as a child, did YOU do that? And if you think I didn’t have a jerk of a boss who was probably somethin like you, and I was forced to wash his hands in front of an Altar and a Crowd every Sunday
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>>528002139
Have a bump, OP.
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>>528004279
>It is evident a divine being exists.
Is it? Please, show me this evidence. Not what you think or want to be true. Actual evidence, please
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>>528002139
Ever notice religion hasn't been put in its own religion board, and is instead allowed to be spammed constantly, always disruptive, always derailing, never doing what it says while insisting you are part of it?
Almost like it's an effective tactic for something. Makes one think, if any real anon is capable of such a thing in such a place anymore.
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>>528002139
Christ is King.
Blessed be the Name of Jesus.
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>>528004380
Pretty much. Reality is incredibly ordered. Change the cosmological principle by 1 to the 40 and atoms cannot form. Human consciousness and life itself should not exist by the laws of entropy. Yet here we are.

So there is a creator God, above all contingency. Surely he should have made himself known to us in history? Sorted the issues of evil and death. And surely this must have been recognised as divine truth and spread to all corners of the Earth if it was truly divine.
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>>528004339
No u, the post. Sad to see this from a Portugese. Perhaps you arrived on the boat recently from Senegal
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>>528002298
I think you've set your expectations too high. Life is struggle but death is not the end.

1 Corinthians 9:24-27 (KJV) Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
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>>528004173
You have no conjecture of evidence nor even what would make something evidence. Christ could show up today and you would would chalk it up to AI, hallucination, or fraud.

You cant even make an argument for what evidence is without relying on implicit assumptions which cant be proven. Therefore the only kike here is (You) who forces the burden of ontological proof to Christians while abdicating it yourself.
>b-b-but muh machines
Christianity has usurped the entire structure of human civilization for thousands of years and pushed humanity forward in philosophy, science, music, etc.

So once again: you are a retard arguing sophistry
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>>528004513
There is something rather than something. Order over the void. Existence cannot will itself out of nothing. Saying it contracted from a previous universe or is part of a multiverse kicks the can down the road. Or invokes the Reddit “north from the north pole” analogy. Which still doesn’t answer things. Creation, reality, flows from some sort of source. A source outside time and contingency. A first cause. An unmoved mover, pure act and being eternal. IE - God.

There are few purely atheistic cosmologists and philosophers. It’s intellectually unserious. Instead of just admitting the obvious that reality was willed into being from something outside our understanding of it. Many of them have to conclude Deism at the least or pantheism.
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>>528004547
Wow, look at all those assumptions you are making with no clear logical path in between them.
>order exists in universe
>therefore it has to have been created by a personal God that also decided to become Israel's national god and then appear in the form of a rabbi for gentiles later
Yep, totally coherent logic right there. Anyone with a rational mind goes from A -> B. You jump from A -> 5849turbocock_420
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>>528003664
you kikes need to be killed off
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>>528004736
Shalom
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>>528004907
>you kikes need to be killed off
Only the most retarded of retards don't believe that Jesus, the Man didn't exist dumb dumb.
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>>528004690
>his God is all powerful yet cannot present evidence for doubters
Thank you for more cope and more words that have nothing to do with the original argument. I'm going to start arguing like Jews and Christians from now on so you can have a feel of what it's like.
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>>528002266
Romans technically. But the Jews wanted it. The message is nobody escapes the blame.
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>>528002139
>>528002254
Amen
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>>528004822
Order has to be ordered or it is not order. Creation has to be created or it is not creation. Are you claiming reality is non existent? Denying the literal most basic observation possible ? That existence exists?

I didn’t even get into Christianity in that post. I simply explained how reality itself must have come into being from a source outside it. It cannot propagate itself. This is a logical impossibility. You are so blinded by pride and hate you cannot even admit that reality is ordered or created. I pity whatever mental state you are in.
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>528004328
the ethiopian eunuch is part of your bible, not some atheist screed
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>>528002139
Your baited fishhook's glory expires with the astrological age of Pisces.
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>>528002139
Absolutely fucking BASED.

>Jewish shills will NEVER make me hate Christ
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>>528002139
I will give one chance to convert me:
Would you rather your daughter married a black christian or a White pagan?
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>>528005280
You already know the answer
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>>528005280
White pagan. I’d rather have my grandchildren look like me and maintain a coherent ethnic identity for their own sake. But Id attempt to convert him and hold him in deep contempt if he didn’t. My grandchildren would be Christian I’d assure.
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>>528005086
The guy was a eunuch retard (a guy whose balls have been cut off either against his will or by sacrifice) and NOT a tranny (these people get their dick and balls removed to be replaced with a vagina and then dress like a woman)
Atheists no longer operate in reality. Must be all the HRT.
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>>528002139
>>solves degeneracy
>>solves nihilism
>>solves philosophy
>>solves gender relations
>>solves death
>>solves human will
>>solves political tribalism
>>solves race relations
>>names Jews as prideful servants of satan
>>is the center of European civilisation for 1500 years
>>stands against every attempt to tear his word down
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>>528005079
Lololol, look at this word salad that keeps jumping bridges in logic instead of taking rational paths.
>order exists, creation is creation... uhh ARE YOU DENYING REALITY!?!?!?!?

Absolutely unreal the way Christniggers "debate" and "argue". P.s. your personal vision of how things come to be may not necessarily be the truth. Plato thought it was "obvious" that things were built from little platonic solids. This is why we moved away from "philosophy" and "your headcannon" into making actual observations and explanations backed up by experiments. You should try to stop living in the era of 2,000 years ago and join the modern world ;)
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>>528002139

UH VERY BASED AND REDPILLED
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>>528005434
Plato also believed existence was rational, ordered and created. Once again, we aren’t even talking about Christ here. But the nature of reality and the existence of a creator.
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>>528002139
Promises to come back within his followers lifetime.
Doesn't.
Jesus is the dad who went out for milk and never came back.
And yet you idolize him anyway, creating some excuse of why he hasn't come back and how he really loves you.
When you grow up and become an adult, you realize your dad was just a piece of crap.
Sadly many adult Christians never reach this stage.
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>>528005377
Uh oh. Don't you know there's no ethnicity in the eyes of Jesus. You are all one in Christ. Shameful of you to use something like ethnicity to give your daughter to a sick and twisted white pagan instead of letting her get spread by some Christian BBC
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>>528005377
Enjoy hell then lol
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>>528004991
>muh cope
>muh original argument
>obviously overwhelmed intellectually
>mfw the irony of (You) saying I'm the one bringing up semantics
the atheist mind in full effect. Read a book and then we can talk again Billy lmao
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>>528005564
That’s not what the verse means. Christ did not demand that we all become a deracinated borderless mixed race species forever. It means that the message is open to all, and that ethnicity is irrelevant before God. All man will be judged. All are accountable and all can be saved.
>brings up interracial sex out of nowhere
As expected. Like a true cuck.
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>>528005493
And most of Plato's ideas about reality have largely been debunked. Arirstotle's physics have been invalidated long ago. Abarahamism has the same obvious hisotrical and reasoning gaps as it always did.

What's your point here? Just because the universe shows certain patterns and repeatable mechanics does not mean you get to inject your personal faith-based beliefs on what created it, and how it all actually operates. Give up, you are not winning here and just making yourself look like a clown.
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>>528005709
>just making yourself look like a clown
Have defenders of the jew book ever done anything but?
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>>528005653
Uhh, can you define what a book is? Like can you actually prove a book is what it is? XD haha i am so smart
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>>528005709
For the third time, I am not interjecting th Christian faith in this argument. I am saying that the universe has a creator, an it is ordered. Something you cannot admit. This isn’t even uniquely Abrahamic. Practically every religious tradition and culture to ever exist has this belief. Deism, Monism, panpsychism all share this.
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>>528002139
What a complete joke Christ cucks are. Priests molest a whole school of blind little white boys
>DegEnEraCy SoLVed!
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>528005386
>HE WAS A HECKIN BASED EUNUCH AND NOT A TRANNY!
mexican intellectuals have destroyed the united states
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>>528002139
Based Jesus, my Lord and Savior.

Christ is King
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>>528002139
>solves degeneracy
by celebrating those who stop being degenerate more than celebrating those who were never degenerates to begin with, cuckstianity encourages degenerate behavior.
>solves gender relations
Rabbi Yeshua was a simp if there ever was one. His whole movement is based around his mom lying about cucking his father.
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>>528002139
Jesus and Christianity is literally just stone soop. We were great in spite of it not because of it, and it has ultimately led to our destruction. It didn't solve kikes and niggers and other religions while putting too much emphasis on being a servile globohomo faggot.
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>>528005864
>>HE WAS A HECKIN BASED EUNUCH AND NOT A TRANNY!
When did I say he was based? Atheists no longer operate in reality. To them
>a guy who gets his balls cut off = a guy who cuts off his dick and balls, puts in a fake vagina, takes hormones and goes into the womans bathroom
Remember atheists voted Kamala 72% and she was the most troon loving candidate that ever was.
Atheists no longer operate in reality. Too many vax shots.
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>>528005954
Everyone does degenerate acts. Everyone sins. No man is perfect by birth. By trying to remove or kill those that show “degenerate” inclinations instead of working to destroy it at the root in every person, you will end up with a purity spiral.
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>>528005819
I can, and have admitted that the universe has certain order and repeatable mechanics. So what? There are also probabilistic/random elements in play. This is why goats can have horns growing into their fucking eyes, the universe isn't a perfectly pleasant playbook like you think it is.

You don't get to inject your personal belief on how it came to be. Your reasoning of it have had to have been created by some sentient magical entity is already a major assumption, even if you're not coming from a Christian angle.
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>>528005819
>If you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
This is the assertion you made that started the argument. Now you conveniently pretend you're not defending Christianity specifically.
Fuck off you disingenuous little bitch.
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>528006001
christianity leads directly to atheism, the ancients understood this, christians have no real gods or archetypes, only jewish "guru" types who they look to for guidance
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>>528006024
>So what
Ergo a transcendent creator exists. You cannot admit it was created and ordered without admitting this. Random chance cannot order itself repeatedly, never mind create the conditions from nothing of which that order could be observed and judged by someone inside the system.

Who says I don’t get to inject my personal belief? By who? By what authority? The state? Religious freedom is granted by most governments. By /pol/? By (you)?

If I am sentient, a 3D lifeform, why wouldn’t the thing that brought created ordered existence into being and sustains it at every moment (lest it would collapse into nothingness instantaneously) not also be?
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>>528006016
>Everyone sins
and some sin wwwaaaaayyyyy more than others. In a society that isn't pozzed, when someone does shitty things multiple times, you are allowed to treat them like a shitty person (because they are), but in cuckstianity, you just need to keep forgiving them because rabbi yeshua doesn't believe in consequences.
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>>528006150
>christianity leads directly to atheism
Nope. Christians don't believe in the insane anti-science shit that atheists do. You aren't operating in reality.
>christians have no real gods or archetypes, only jewish "guru" types who they look to for guidance
Christ is King you tranny loving faggot. Go take more vax shots.
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>>528004408
That's sort of cool, although gloating about it is disgusting
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>>528006074
I am arguing with the Canadian about the existence of a creator God. Not Christian creed specifically. Do try to keep up.
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>528006220
>Christ is King
of the jews
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>>528006260
>>Christ is King
>of the jews
Yup. Better than the shit atheists worship. When is the next REASON RALLY?
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>>528006195
>You cannot admit it was created and ordered without admitting this.
he didn't say it was created

saying that order of any sort must also mean a creator is a bald assertion backed by nothing. there's no unordered uncreated universe for us to compare it to. we just don't know that.
>i don't know therefore god
is wishful thinking
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>528006319
lol
lmao
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>>528003999
You will never have a daughter but if you did me and 6 other niggers would break her in while she was still in 6th grade
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>>528006195
>Ergo a transcendent creator exists.
No. For the last time, you don't get to jump from "universe shows order" to "it has had to have been created by a transcendent creator" with the degree of certainty you keep going with. I personally like that vision, but you're trying to inject it as FACT when its just a personal preference.

>Who says I don’t get to inject my personal belief? By who? By what authority? The state? Religious freedom is granted by most governments. By /pol/? By (you)?
If you want any kind of rigorous understanding of the universe, you rely on more observable, verifiable, and testable theories with evidence, reasoning, arguments, etc. "Believing" things is best left behind to 2000 years ago which is ironically where you belong. Stop using a computer that sends pulses of light across the vast sea floor cables, you are unfit to use this technology you semitic fairytale goop.
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>>528006379
Doesn't matter.
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>>528006214
No you don’t just keep forgiving them and let them run around willy nilly. You ceaselessly try to prevent the sin from arising within the person in the first place by religious faith and good example. Besides, if they break the law, they go to jail.

I don’t know how you think Christian society operates, but you seem to think it’s some anarchic free for all where evil is constantly committed but no one gives a shit because all is forgiven. That is not it at all.

By the way, what is your standard for degenerate? Our moral system is incredibly Christian that most people don’t even realise. Pagan cultures used to expose female infants to die, sacrificed people to idols and gods, slavery was rampant and a master could kill, mutilate or rape their slaves with no legal consequence or little care by anyone else. If you were weak or defeated, you just simply had to accept it and suffer the consequences of whatever was done to you. Abortion was rife in Ancient Rome.
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>>528006402
>You will never have a daughter but if you did me and 6 other niggers would break her in while she was still in 6th grade
r/toughguyatheist right here.
SAD and HOMO
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>528006409
jew worshipers are obsessed with atheists, troons, homosexuality and vaccines, fascinating
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>>528006227
I’m not gloating. They’ll try to take that away from me too anon. Thank you for saying it’s kind of cool, because sometimes I wonder. As I was typing the part about washing the Priests hands, I was like man I guess I kinda made the magic happen. He couldn’t have done that without me washing his hands first. Even if you reject me and make me feel unwelcome thank you for saying what you said
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>>528006498
>jew worshipers are obsessed with atheists, troons, homosexuality and vaccines, fascinating
HAHAHAHAHA
NO YOU'RE OBSESSED WITH THOSE THINGS! Just keep ignoring the facts
>atheists voted Kamala 72%, the most troon loving candidate ever
>atheists are the #1 group to support trans shit according to Pew research
>atheists #1 group to trust the vax and #1 group to take it (90% rate)
Atheists no longer operate in reality.
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>>528002797
Exactly
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>>528006407
All order must be ordered. Order cannot spontaneously arise from chaos. If it can, then our entire assumption of physics and science is wrong from the outset.

Despite your worship of science, which is no different from a Redditor, we still cannot give a reasonable explanation for the origin of the universe or its physical laws. We can describe in great detail their effects but not their cause or reason for existence. Why they are as they are. Despite all our progress and tools, intelligent design remains a valid explanation and is believed by various cosmologists and scientists. To dismiss it as “2000 year old fairy tales” is childlike.
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>>528006536
I don't hate you dude, I was being blunt and not friendly and then you got mad and we started bickering but it's not sneeded
Keep learning, keep praying, I'll do the same and hopefully we get better over time
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>528006578
christians serve jews, they literally bow down to them
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>>528002139
dude solved so many things, my killing himself, maybe i should kill myself too
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>>528002139
Amen
>>528002254
FPBP, God bless you bro
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>solves degeneracy
by doing nothing against it.

>solves nihilism
same as above.

>solves philosophy
name 50 christian philosophers with a greater impact than the Greek ones. oh, you can't.

>solves gender relations
by affirming are equal than men? fuck you nigger. your religion is proto-feminism.

>solves death
you can't be serious. if you want to go to heaven with niggers and jews who accepted rabbi jeshua as their saviour then there you go. honestly I'd rather just disappear forever before facing such fate.

>solves human will
same as the 1st and 2nd point.

>solves political tribalism
tribalism is not a bad thing per se. it is bad when other races do it with the purpose of unit against others, just like jews do.

>solves race relations
suck a dick you fucking faggot. exactly this is the main reason why I hate you all stupid kike worshippers. I want nothing to do with other races. I want to exterminate everyone that is not Aryan in the most brutal ways possible. I feel nothing for subhuman races other than hatred.

>names Jews as prideful servants of satan
but you never had the balls to kill them all, and now here we are... suffering from jewish domination. and the few people who did direct actions against the jews always got stabbed in the back by jewish worshippers.
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>>528006806
>christians serve jews
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>jews say "there are 900 genders", atheists say OK
>jews say "men can get pregnant", athiests say OK
>jews say "take 40 vax shots for the coof and fight for mandates", athiests say OK
Atheists no longer operate in reality. You're comparing Christians doing some volunteer to work to atheists taking a corporate injection on command multiple times and fighting for men in the ladies bathroom.
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>is the center of European civilisation for 1500 years
seems like this is the only period of history christkikes care about. "muh but this period is where we achieved more duhh..."

and so..? did the church, in any of it's denominations, participate directly on those achievements? no. It was white men, who put strength, blood and tears.

>stands against every attempt to tear his word down
I don't see you do anything against the jews, or the jewish bootlicker politicians, or the millions of shitskins invading our nations. you just stay there, accepting the defeat like a good cuck and clinging to the hope that some day a jewish rabbi will come down from the sky and save the world. utterly pathetic.
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>>528006898
>, or the millions of shitskins invading our nations.
Christians voted Trump. Atheists voted for open borders Kamala.
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>>528006595
>All order must be ordered. Order cannot spontaneously arise from chaos.
You already made another leap in logic, but fine let's go with this. Why not. Natural organisms basically evolve based on random selection pressures and events. From their perspective the universe is effectively chaotic even if you *could* somehow see perfect order of every micro particle like a God, that still proves that complexity and order does in fact emerge from largely chaotic systems.

>Despite your worship of science, which is no different from a Redditor, we still cannot give a reasonable explanation for the origin of the universe or its physical laws.
Yet. Yet we are constantly getting better at understanding and describing the world. Our models and reasoning get better and better. Meanwhile, you, refuse to adapt and still keep the same mind meta as a bunch of desert priests from the levant 2000 years ago.

Again, you do not deserve any of this technology that has been developed by competent people being more and more correct about our natural world. Sell all your shit, move into a small house in Israel and go pray to Jesus daily - THAT is your actual true destiny. Not shittalking scientists and competent men while you sit indoors comfortable and using their work.
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HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>inb4 45 minutes
You lost and ran away again! I’m the UNDEFEATED KING!
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>>528002139
>>528002981
Anyone have that infographic that shows Abrahamic religions as "man is fallen/atoning" vs non-Abrahamic religions as "man is rising/becoming a god?"
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>>528002139
>solves race relations
Pluralism just tells different groups with different value systems and interests "you're all the same, get along or else." This INCREASES racial tensions for the same reason some anti-drug PSA telling kids not to smoke weed makes them want to smoke more
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>>528006942
kill yourself groyper. all rightoids deserve the rope.
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>528006897
>Christians doing some volunteer to work
why are they doing volunteer work for jews who hate them? Seems a bit odd for a based "anti jewish" religion to bow down to jews the same way a reddit atheist bows down to jews. But I digress
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>>528006950
>HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
Mr. LL here. You ran away from 2 THREADS TONIGHT! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
>You lost and ran away again!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I won 3 THREADS in less than 24 hour period. I'm going for 4 wins right NOW.
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Gotta love that hide button! You lost and I have no reason to respond! Cope and seethe 45 minutes!
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>>528007020
>why are they doing volunteer work for jews who hate them?
Because they believe in Jesus (who also told jews to fuck off).
Why are atheists, the holders of the REASON RALLIES, throwing away all science and logic because jews command them to?
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>>528006992
>kill yourself groyper. all rightoids deserve the rope.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>lose argument
>bring up eceleb shit
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>528007079
>told the jews to fuck off
>your followers fly to israel to work as slave labor for jews
wow, wonderful
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>muh non existent kike on a stick!
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>>528007059
>Gotta love that hide button!
HAHAHAAHAH Spoken like a truly defeated loser!
>You lost
Then why did YOU run away 3 times in one DAY? HAHAHAHAHAHA
> I have no reason to respond!
HGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
I've won so much you might as well stop responding.
>Cope and seethe 45 minutes!
I'm still Mr. UD (undefeated). You are Mr. ARA (Always Runs Away). This thread will be NO DIFFERENT.
Christ is KING
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>>528007139
Lmao like poetry. Kike on a stick!!!
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>>528007139
>>told the jews to fuck off
He did
>>your followers fly to israel to work as slave labor for jews
They aren't as based as Jesus is, but then again nobody is.
Answer this or this is your last (you)
Why are atheists, the holders of the REASON RALLIES, throwing away all science and logic because jews command them to?
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>>528007156
>>528007199
Everyone except retards like Carrier and Mr. ARA believe that Jesus existed!
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>>528002139
>kike noises
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>528007247
>>>told the jews to fuck off
>He did
and yet christians fly to be slaves to jews in israel, curious
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>>528006805
I appreciate you saying that too anon. Jesus works in a pretty funny way bringing us all together, I saw people trying to heckle a street preacher one time on the boardwalk. Just some old dude talking about Jesus, I walked by and shouted “GOD BLESS YOU SIR” the calamity that took place was something else, some idiot tried to heckle me and I talked to him about Jesus. And this young dude in front of his mother looked me straight in my eyes and denied Jesus. You should’ve seen the look on his poor old moms face, looked like a woman who went to church. I ran into the dude he was walking by while me and my brother were waiting in line for an ice cream cone. He tried to avoid eye contact but I saw him, seemed like his mom definitely had given him a hard time probably took him to church on Sunday
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>>528006942
>Christians voted Trump.
Who says we need H1B Indians because "whites can't do the work we need indians for." So uh.
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>>528007347
Meds. Jesus never existed.
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>>528007344
Last (you).
I already gave my answer. You can't answer this:
Why are atheists, the holders of the REASON RALLIES, throwing away all science and logic because jews command them to?
Atheists no longer operate in reality.
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>>528007391
>Who says we need H1B Indians because "whites can't do the work we need indians for." So uh.
Trump says lots of dumb things. But his border, immigration policy and yes, H1B restrictions are stronger than any President in the last 50+ years.
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>>528007403
>Meds. Jesus never existed.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
Says the guy who LIE and say "I'M LEAVING BYE" so that he could get rid of my for 45 minutes!
Christ is King.
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>>528007104
refute my points you brown skinned animal. all magatards and groypers are jewish worshipper shitskins.
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>>528002139
The problem is that it's just not fucking true. It has a true metaphorical meaning that stems back to ancient times but biblical literalism is retarded and unfortunately most Christians are literalists. Whites are a logical race that are moving away from Christianity because it's not in our nature to blindly believe in stories and we prefer rationality, you won't see this trend reverse but rather be steered by someone who can provide a God that is rooted in rationality.
>>528006595
Most quantum physicists agree on a God akin to Brahman.
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>>528007403
The one who needs meds is you
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It depressing seeing fake Christians taint the Lord's name with hatred and vitriol
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>>528007475
>Christ is King
of the jews.
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>>528007491
Nope. You’re a name fag meme flag. Go kys faggot.
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>>528007488
>refute my points you brown skinned animal.
Your only point was "you're a groyper". I correctly pointed out that Christians voted for the candidate that agrees with what you are preaching, retard.
>all magatards and groypers are jewish worshipper shitskins.
Sure thing retard:
>jews say "there are 900 genders", atheists say OK
>jews say "men can get pregnant", athiests say OK
>jews say "take 40 vax shots for the coof and fight for mandates", athiests say OK
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>>528007523
This. Plus he’s a myth. Never actually existed.
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>>528002266
wrong
John 10:17-18
>"The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
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>>528007532
>Nope. You’re a name fag meme flag. Go kys faggot.
So you reply to him but not me? I can't wait to win this thread so I will have 4 in 1 day!
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>>528007578
>Plus he’s a myth. Never actually existed.
Prove it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>528007139
Good one, saved
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>>528007532
Why would I do that, your Mother is giving free tug jobs behind a dumpster right down the road. Why would anyone kys when they can go get a free rug job from your whore mother personally, and it doesn’t cost them a Nickel.
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Hide all posts by ID uYUZ8tF8. What a beautiful option and makes your experience better.
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>>528007613
>explaining that you're not required to prove a negative to the low iq religiotard for the 6 billionth time
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>>528002981
TOTAL ABRAHAMIC DEATH
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>>528007508
>jews say "there are 900 genders", atheists say OK
>jews say "men can get pregnant", athiests say OK
>jews say "take 40 vax shots for the coof and fight for mandates", athiests say OK
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>528007404
go ask an atheist, you still need to answer for why your fellow christians grovel before jews
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>>528007635
Whatever you say mentally ill kike lover
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>>528007523
King of Kings and Lord of Lords
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>>528007687
>>explaining that you're not required to prove a negative to the low iq religiotard for the 6 billionth time
Are you fucking retarded? The only people in any intellectual circles that don't believe Jesus the Man existed are retarded grifters like Richard Carrier. It's a universally rejected fringe theory that isn't taught in any college or university and taken seriously by no one.
Atheists no longer believe in:
>history
>biology
>natural immunity
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>>528007475
I truly believe you will get some sort of halo or something in whatever comes after this for your defense of Jesus in the face of blasphemers Anon
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>>528002139
>solves degeneracy
Nah. And don't say Catholics aren't Christian
>solves nihilism
Your purpose is to spread butter.
>Solves philosophy
???
>solves gender relations
...
>solves death
It isn't known to be true
>solves human will
No.
>solves political tribalism
No. It's just a different tribe.
>solves race relations
...???
>names Jews as prideful servants of satan
...
>is the center of European civilisation for 1500 years
Okay so what?
>stands against every attempt to tear his word down
The enlightenment and collapse of religious authority has already happened, so...
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>>528007676
>Hide all posts by ID uYUZ8tF8.
HYAHAHHAAHHAHHH
So you are "winning" so much that you are ignoring me and begging others to ignore me as well? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>You: STOP GIVING THIS ANON ATTENTION....BECAUSE I WANT TO GIVE HIM ATTENTION
>You: I'M LEAVING, BYE!.....YOU DIDN'T COME BACK FOR 45 MINUTES! I WIN! (literally had to LIE ABOUT LEAVING THE THREAD!)
>You: KYS ANON, IT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN WIN
>You: YOUR RESPONSES ARE SLOW (literally 12 seconds!)
>You: NO I'M NOT GOING TO THE NEW THREAD (goes to the new thread)
>You: WHERE ARE THE MODS TO ARCHIVE THIS THREAD, I CAN'T TAKE LOSING ANYMORE!
>You: YOU RAN AWAY (my response was 3 minutes after your last response)
>You: I LOVE LINKIN PARK SONGS
>You: IGNORE THIS ANON
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>>528002139
Jesus and Hitler, the only men in history who cause total seething butthurt the moment they are mentioned. You know they did the right things by the amount of instantaneous demonic kvetching they cause.
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>>528007765
It's perfectly plausible retard. No people (aside from Bible) have written about Jesus at the time of his life. Everyone is a later writer that could have never known Jesus personally since they haven't even been born yet.

That said I think it's pretty probable that he did exist, but its not 100% set in stone like you claim and a perfectly valid debate
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>>528007782
>muh halo!
>muh jesus!
Those aren’t real things you mentally ill christcuck.
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>>528002139
>gives jews a monopoly in banking
>bans every religion except judaism
>helps jews set up Israel
>lets millions of refugees flood countries
>tells people to give charity money to the 3rd world
>started feminism
>promotes gay race communism and equal rights
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>>528005027
Hello jew.
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>>528007712
You’re the one who’s mentally Ill. Look at you, actin like a demon. Except you’re weak so you act out the only way you know how, your own mother probably won’t listen to you when you talk this way but she loves you to much to have you institutionalized
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>>528007508
Badly translated verse. Paul is saying that Christians in Rome should use their wealth to support the poor Christians (the "jews" here) in Jerusalem who are being oppressed by the judaic authorities.
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>>528007856
>It's perfectly plausible retard.
No it isn't, retard.
> No people (aside from Bible) have written about Jesus at the time of his life.
That's not how history works, retard. Tacitus wrote about Jesus. Tacitus hated Christians and had access to the Roman archives. If there was no mention of Jesus in those archives he would have written "These dumb dumb Christians are worshiping a Guy that we have no records of!"
>That said I think it's pretty probable that he did exist, but its not 100% set in stone like you claim and a perfectly valid debate
There is no debate anymore (except from atheist retards that follow grifters like Richard Carrier)
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>>528007635
Don't get worked up over these people, pearls before swine, we were warned about it
Their whole prerogative is to make you as miserable as they are
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>>528007859
>Those aren’t real things you mentally ill christcuck.
So are you just ignoring me? So is that 4 WINS for Mr. LL (or Mr. UD = UNDEFEATED in this case)?
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imagine worshipping a jewish communist religion that promotes the notion that all races and genders are equal.

YOU ARE GAY
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>>528007765
I get that you're not very smart bro. It's ok. You can believe in your jewish sky fairy. No one is going to stop you
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>>528007952
Oh you're that total retard that thinks Tacitus had some guaranteed Roman historical archives that described Jesus ij detail. Instead of simply reporting word of mouth beliefs about a group known as christians. I can now stop responding to your garbage posts, glad to see you're still ranting about Jesus though it's been months since i've been on this shithole. Keep up the good nolife fight buddy.
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>>528008049
Imagine voting for an open borders tranny loving brown woman.
Imagine being the #1 group to support trans
Imagine taking the vax at a rate of 90%
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>>528008049
you are evil
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>>528008081
Tacitus didn't write about jesus, that lying pos knows it. He wrote about Christians
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>>528008077
>I get that you're not very smart bro. It's ok.
Ok retard.
>Not a single college or university teaches Jesus myth nonsense
>only grifters like Carrier do in order to sell the same book every few years
SAD
>You can believe in your jewish sky fairy. No one is going to stop you
This is about the existence of Jesus the Man. He existed. Whether he did miracles or is the Son of God is a different story.
Atheists question Jesus existence but not 900 genders....SAD
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>>528008090
>never voted for a brown or a woman, never will
>never supported trannies, never will
>never took the vax
>>528008127
you are a christian DEMON
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>>528002139
check it out, we solved degeneracy
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>>528008154
There's no reliable historical source that documents jesus' existence
I'm not trying to convince you, just pointing it out to all the people you're trying to deceive
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>>528008081
>Oh you're that total retard that thinks Tacitus had some guaranteed Roman historical archives that described Jesus ij detail.
He had access to the Roman archives (letters of correspondence, reports from security officials, intelligence info, etc). If Jesus wasn't in there, he would have written about it. Again, only an extreme minority of retards like Carrier reject the writings of TAcitus.
>Instead of simply reporting word of mouth beliefs about a group known as christians.
He HATED Christians. Why would he do lifting for them?
> I can now stop responding to your garbage posts, glad to see you're still ranting about Jesus though it's been months since i've been on this shithole. Keep up the good nolife fight buddy.
Way to run away faggot. Go buy Carrier's new book.
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>>528002139
shhh anon, it’s the redpill /pol/ refuses to take
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>>528008193
>>never voted for a brown or a woman, never will
Atheists in America did. 72% of the vote. Christians voted Trump.
>>never supported trannies, never will
Atheists in America do.
>>never took the vax
See above.
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>>528008238
>There's no reliable historical source that documents jesus' existence
TACITUS.
Only the most hardcore retards like you and Carrier reject the writings of Tacitus.
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>>528008256
Try getting laid sometime, I hear it's fun ;). Or learn a skill. Crazy how I can stop browsing for months and you're still on here posting slop about Tacitus.
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>>528008049
>telling the jews that they aren't special and that they're not better than the goyim is... LE BAD
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>>528008328
Ok, cite it
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>>528008357
>Try getting laid sometime, I hear it's fun ;).
Pure. Reddit. What's next
>meds
>touch grass
Fucking retard. So you say " I can now stop responding to your garbage posts" only to respond a few minutes later? Is your HRT acting up?
>posting slop about Tacitus.
REAL HISTORY from one of the words greatest historians is now "slop" to atheists?
They reject:
>history
>biology
>natural immunity
SAD
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>>528008291
american atheists are secular christians
buddhists and atheists in other countries KILL browns and suppress womens rights.
trannies are viewed with DISGUST.
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>>528008438
"Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Chrestians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most pernicious superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular."
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>>528002372
ewwww
sandnigger that fucks 9 years olds
no
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>>528008463
>having sex is reddit
Maybe I should become a redditor
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>>528008502
>american atheists are secular christians
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
Try telling them that!
>buddhists and atheists in other countries KILL browns and suppress womens rights.
They are just a few decades behind. China and Japan get more feminized year after year.
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>>528008193
its just a script the jewish chatbots who shill jew worship use
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>>528008400
>believes in a religion which puts jews on a pedestal
>thinks he opposes jew supremacy
nigger
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>>528008537
>>having sex is reddit
>Maybe I should become a redditor
Being this purposely retarded. Redditards say "have sex" when losing argument. Touching grass is actually nice too, but redditors say "touch grass" when losing an argument.
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>>528008463
Nah I have pretty much stopped posting in relation to your argument. We've already done this and you have clowned yourself in front of like 5 people.

Now I'm just mocking you for being a loser. Lol imagine spending all your time on 4chan defending jesus
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>>528008400
you can do that without worshiping a jew ya know?
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>>528008567
>China and Japan get more feminized year after year.
feminised by CHRISTIAN and MORMON missionaries who push a GAY, JEWISH IDEOLOGY onto the east.
>>528008586
based
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>>528007923
Why would god allow his word to be mistranslated? Surely when peoples' salvation depends on reading, understanding, and believing it? Where else is the bible "poorly translated," we have to wonder
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>>528008614
>Nah I have pretty much stopped posting in relation to your argument. We've already done this and you have clowned yourself in front of like 5 people.
AHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH Sure you did. That's why you ran away for months and said "I don't have to talk to you anymore".
Please explain the arguments you used to get me to clown myself.
>Now I'm just mocking you for being a loser.
Ok faggot
>reddit spacing
>"HAVE SEX INCEL"
SAD
>Lol imagine spending all your time on 4chan defending jesus
You're here as well. I know it's not reddit and you don't get updoots, but it's better, trust me.
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>>528008667
>feminised by CHRISTIAN and MORMON missionaries who push a GAY, JEWISH IDEOLOGY onto the east.
No, it's kikes and leftists. I remember a pic for a trans parade in Japan and in the corner it said it was organized by the Israeli Embassy.
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>>528008719
I have to be an actually productive human in real life, so apologies if you've been waiting for me for months to get humiliated again. Only a loser would get offended at being called a loser. What does it say about you if even reddit have-sex insults make you angry kek
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>>528008799
>he doesnt know that christians, mormons, kikes and lefties work together
wake up
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>>528008256
>he hated christians
he didnt even know who they were

when christians interpolated his text, the one which you are referencing, he LOVED christians and hated rome and it called it the source of all the world's evil (as opposed to say.. jerusalem)

the question you should be asking is why were christians painstakingly editing famous works by hand one letter at a time just to say something nice about jews? BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IS JEWISH dummy. its fake and gay, not even a real religion, it exists as insurance for jewish power so they can molest kids without threat to their lives and control the money supply without competition.
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>>528002139
>>solves degeneracy
By hanging out with thieves, tax collectors, terrorists, and prostitutes?
>>solves nihilism
His philosophy led to western and continental philosophies which begot nihilism you fucking stupid illiterate christcuck moron
>>solves philosophy
Hahahaha right that's why medieval europe was a clown show of barbarism and slaughter
>>solves gender relations
Never did and still hasnt
>>solves death
Source?
>>solves human will
Source?
>>solves political tribalism
He was a communist
>>solves race relations
By saying all races are equal
>>names Jews as prideful servants of satan
You got me here
>>is the center of European civilisation for 1500 years
No. Rome and Greece were and are.
>>stands against every attempt to tear his word down
Hahahaha
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>>528008872
>I have to be an actually productive human in real life,
Sure thing.
>so apologies if you've been waiting for me for months to get humiliated again.
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH, I don't know who you are and I want you to try and humiliate me. Of course you will just run away like faggot.
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>>528002909
You’re probably Indian so no one has take you seriously.
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>>528005027
When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”

All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”
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>>528005434
>that things were built from little platonic solids

He was right. They're called "atoms"
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>>528003107
Yes, they are, you lying rat. Nobody is ever going to believe your lie no matter how much you repeat it
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>>528008900
>he didnt even know who they were
AHHAHAHAHAAHAH He literally says "Chrestians" (which is an interchangeable term for "Christians")
>the one which you are referencing, he LOVED christians and hated rome and it called it the source of all the world's evil (as opposed to say.. jerusalem)
Pure Carrier nonsense
>your pic
"In his Annals (15.44), Roman historian Tacitus identifies Pontius Pilate as a "procurator" who executed "Christus" during the reign of Tiberius. While the 1961 "Pilate Stone" discovery confirms Pilate held the title of "prefect" during his governorship (26–36 AD), Tacitus likely used the term procurator—common for Judean governors in his own time (post-41 AD)—as a generic term for governor. "
>the question you should be asking is why were christians painstakingly editing famous works by hand
All these changes were detected and identified by historians. These same historians say Tacitus talking about Christians and Jesus is legit.
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>>528008509
That was a reference to Judas Chrestus, not Jesus
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>>528008893
>>he doesnt know that christians, mormons, kikes and lefties work together
>wake up
Sure thing, retard.
Kikes voted Kamala
Christians voted Trump.
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>>528008799
i wouldve guessed christians or jews. although in my mind ive long since come to the conclusion christians and jews are one and the same force.
its just an esau's gambit.
>im the jew
>no, im the jew
only jews would have such an argument
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>>528009036
Atoms aren't platonic solids.
>>528008973
Already did. The fact that I spontaneously found you ranting about the same topic as I did 2-3 months ago already makes you a comical lolcow. Please keep going I see great potential in you, you might become the next chris chan or luggage lad.
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>>528009162
>That was a reference to Judas Chrestus,
No it wasn't, retard.
"Chrestians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty"
Judas didn't have the Chrestian populace worship him, nor did Judas suffer extreme penalty under Pilate.
Atheists no longer operate in reality.
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>>528009192
>Already did.
Then do it again. I don't remember. Do you have any screen caps? If you can't do it again, get the fuck out.
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>>528009177
>although in my mind ive long since come to the conclusion christians and jews are one and the same force.
Jews voted Kamala.
Christians voted Trump.
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>>528009257
Read this, you might actually learn something
https://judasthegalilean.weebly.com/judas--jesus.html
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>>528009290
Nah, I'm not going to entertain your delusion for the 2nd time. I have much better things to do with my time. Going to try to hit 5 plate squat in the next couple of months maybe when I'm back I'll still find you seething and crying about Jesus totally being 100% because of Tacitus, kek
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>>528009404
>Richard Carrier tier nonsense
Again, literally only grifters and their retarded followers believe this shit.
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>>528009408
>Nah, I'm not going to entertain your delusion for the 2nd time.
Sure thing, retard.
>I have much better things to do with my time.
Like tell me repeatedly how you won't clown me again?
>. Going to try to hit 5 plate squat in the next couple of months
Pure reddit.
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>>528009107
^see, its like a bot
he admits Tacitus calls him PROCURATOR, the opening premise and the foundation of the argument. he then pivots to an appeal to the experts, that (((the experts))) didnt come to that logical conclusion. gee, i wonder why, its almost like they have a vested interest in protecting and upholding jewish institutions.

nigger, we are the experts now.
and ffs, that wasnt an appeal to carrier, it was an appeal to crypto-christian bart ehrman
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>>528002298
That's because the Kingdom of Heaven is within. The world is fallen.
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>>528009566
>^see, its like a bot
I'm not, retard.
>e admits Tacitus calls him PROCURATOR, the opening premise and the foundation of the argument. he then pivots to an appeal to the experts, that (((the experts))) didnt come to that logical conclusion. gee, i wonder why, its almost like they have a vested interest in protecting and upholding jewish institutions.
So 99.999% of historians agree on thing, but internet detectives and grifters like Carrier are correct? Fucking retard.
>nigger, we are the experts now.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>this literal what pic
Where is this from?
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>>528009319
so youre saying theyre voting? goyim cant vote. that only confirms they are in fact, jews.
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>>528008900
Do you speak any language other than English? Because I’ve been speaking a little bit of every language as of late and I can tell you right now they don’t work the same way as English and you begin to understand why English became the standard.
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>>528009001
>All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”
Isn't that a good thing for them to say? He was the ultimate sacrifice? Don't Christians sing hymns about the cleansing power of Christ's blood?
But also that story is fucking retarded. A Roman governor would not hmm and haw over executing a Jew, he'd say "a Jew to execute? Good"
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>>528009746
>goyim cant vote.
You are so fucking braindead
>another insane pic
What the fuck are you doing retard?
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>>528009492
Stay ignorant then bro! I really don't care!
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>>528007587
>he knew that kikes would kill him
>he knew that he would become a martyr
>he let the kikes kill him
>he became a martyr
>kikes didn't kill him
You're being rabbinical, Jeffrey.
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>>528009807
>Stay ignorant then bro! I really don't care!
Sure thing
>you are soooooo ignorant that you don't believe this insane fringe theory that isn't taught in any college or university, and is really only embraced by atheists retards
" Critics argue that Judas the Galilean's rebellion in 6 AD would make him too old to be the Jesus crucified around 30-33 AD."
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HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity! Also, I’M STILL THE KING OF THIS THREAD. 45 MINUTES!
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>>528010189
>HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity! Also, I’M STILL THE KING OF THIS THREAD. 45 MINUTES!
Why did you RUN AWAY AGAIN FOR 47 MINUTES!?
HAAHHAHAAHAHAHAH
Christ is KING.
I'm declaring myself the KING OF THIS THREAD. I'm 4 wins to your 0 wins for TODAY. HAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>528009685
well you named one, and i named another. so i highly doubt its 99.99%
try 0%
ask how many historians know about the procurator/prefect distinction
do you mean church historians? christcucks?

ask how many of them think tacitus, an expert on roman culture and social standing, made a mistake, or if it was an interpolation. and most would tell you its an interpolation. read their books, read their footnotes, they tell you outright all the fucking time theyre lying to you. theyve got copyrights on the "word of god" ffs. its a commercial product, not some genuine holy book lol

how many historians do you think have even been asked that question? not very many. and id wager your opinion, which is that it was a mistake, is not the consensus opinion. i know of two who have been asked, and both agree its an interpolation. its an interpolation because its not a real religion, its a state sponsored zog cheerleading organization, working for the benefit of jews.

read some church history sometime. read about how theyd kidnap kids and use them as hostages. christianity is jewish at its core. of course theyre going to lie to you. why wouldnt they?
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>>528009685
>where is this from
bart ehrman's website.
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>>528009755
nah, i never had an aptitude for the languages they taught at zog common core
i read latin and greek. but i dont "speak" either
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>>528010282
>well you named one, and i named another. so i highly doubt its 99.99%
Yeah, so many believe in it that NONE OF THEM teach courses on it, nor publish papers on it, nor write books on it. SAD
>ask how many historians know about the procurator/prefect distinction
do you mean church historians? christcucks?
Every historian would say "Tacitus calls pilate a procurator, the title used for governors of Judea when he wrote his book"
>more insane pics
What the fuck are you doing?
>ask how many of them think tacitus, an expert on roman culture and social standing, made a mistake,
Only retards like Carrier.
>. and most would tell you its an interpolation.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHah
You are insane.
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>>528010308
Bart Ehrman BELIEVES that Jesus existed you fucking retard.
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>>528009785
what, were you just not here for the 2020 election? elections are fake. if youre voting, youre jewish, everyone elses who attempts to vote get fraction magic'd towards the jewish preferred zionist candidate
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>>528010482
>what, were you just not here for the 2020 election?
Yes, Dems stole it. But without Covid they couldn't do the same in 2024. Retard
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>>528010308
"I have to admit that I was surprised to see this objection – as I had never heard of this before, that procurators could be prefects. "
https://ehrmanblog.org/richard-carrier-a-fuller-reply-to-his-criticisms-beliefs-and-claims-about-jesus/
RETARD
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>>528010424
attacking jews and jewish institutions like christianity is not exactly a profitable investment, you know that right? theyd lose their jobs.

but pilate was not a procurator. ones a civilian office, the other's a military office. pilate is described in a military role. he wouldnt have made that mistake, nor would any historian today.
name them.. name these 99.999% historians who would say that.
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>>528010668
>attacking jews and jewish institutions like christianity is not exactly a profitable investment, you know that right? theyd lose their jobs.
AHAHHHHH
So kike universities and colleges, that HATE Christians and constantly put them down would REJECT the "Jesus didn't exist" class if this claim was TRUE? RETARD.
>but pilate was not a procurator. ones a civilian office, the other's a military office.
AGAIN
"Tacitus calls pilate a procurator, the title used for governors of Judea when he wrote his book" When Tacitus WROTE HIS BOOK this was a term used for governors of Judea.
>name them.. name these 99.999% historians who would say that.
Only Carrier is saying otherwise. When I say 99.999% of scientists believe in evolution, that's a lie too? HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>528010572
>In my book I take the Roman historian Tacitus to task for claiming that Pontius Pilate was a procurator rather than a prefect.
now look at the conclusion... his expert friend agrees with carrier. and now so does he.

dumbass
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>>528010668
"In terms of official titulature, Tacitus’s error is straightforward: when Tacitus was writing in the early 2nd century AD the equestrian governors usually carried the official title “procurator.” Before the empeor Claudius, equestrian governors were generally officially called prefects."
https://ehrmanblog.org/richard-carrier-a-fuller-reply-to-his-criticisms-beliefs-and-claims-about-jesus/
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>>528010782
why would jews hate jews?
its an esau's gambit, like i said.
theyre only pretending to fight
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>>528010880
See>>528010880
I don't even get what you are arguing. Ehrman BELIEVES Jesus existed.
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>>528010915
You're a fucking schizo retard.
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>>528010922
>>528010880
See >>528010885
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>>528010922
he believes tacitus was an interpolation. we were never arguing the existance of jesus. ehrman's a little babby, he needed to consult an expert, and his expert agreed with carrier.
youre like the little babby. you and the crypto-christian bart ehrman
we are decades ahead of you mcqueef
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>>528011029
>he believes tacitus was an interpolation.
It wasn't.
>we were never arguing the existance of jesus.
I was, but ok.
>we are decades ahead of you mcqueef
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAH
Surely this will be accepted REAL SOON!
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>>528010922
>>528011029
when something like Tacitus being thrown out the window, a rational person would say, ok what does this actually mean, how does it affect what i believe, could i be wrong, etc.

but a christcuck will hit a wall of cognitive dissonance. they will be troubled by engaging those thoughts, because the ramifications would simply undo their entire perception of reality. this little tidbit will go to the back of his mind, never to be approached again. but if you were to follow that road, there is an exit. an exit out of the cave. the cave is your shadows on the wall, plato's cave allegory. your shadows are jews portrayed as gods. and you are locked up chained to staring at those shadows, unable to stand up.
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>>528002266
and resurrected. (you) cant win
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>>528011252
"That would seem to settle it. This email acquaintance of mine is an internationally recognized scholar in the field of Roman history, so I trust his judgment. He asked not to be identified by name, I think because he too does not want to be subject to the kinds of attacks one faces on the Internet no matter what one says and on what grounds or authority. In any event, I think the quotation from PIR sums it up."
The guy who Ehrman emailed "asked not to be identified". Yeah sure. What a fucking liar.
>when something like Tacitus being thrown out the window, a rational person would say, ok what does this actually mean, how does it affect what i believe, could i be wrong, etc.
Tacitus could be wrong, but nothing I have ever seen proves this. It's insane fringe theories. Like people who say "Shakespeare didn't write his own plays, watch this youtube vid to see the real TRUTH!"
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>>528010368
Well I want you to go back and say what you just said to me in Latin or Greek and I’ll tell you why you’re an idiot
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>>528011252
because if you keep going next you have josephus, hes easy to prove are interpolations, nothing prior to the 3rd century mentions jesus.

so what then do you really have left? a bunch of "jews calling themselves christians existed, therefore christ existed", aka there is no evidence for his having existed. only evidence jews calling themselves christians existed. jesus' existsnce is based entirely on jews, known liars, who have told you they hate you and your own ancestors probably said never to trust them.
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>>528011376
he asked not to be identified because jews would ruin him. this is like, worse than woke. its attacking the foundations of abrahamism itself.
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>>528011429
>hes easy to prove are interpolations
Yes, the interpolations are about the clearly altered stuff about the MIRACLES. The writings about Jesus and Christians are clearly authentic.,
You aren't operating in reality. Go buy Carrier's new book. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>528011467
>he asked not to be identified because jews would ruin him. t
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHHHAHAHA
Yeah, the Jews really ruined Carrier. He still teaches, still makes money publishing books, etc. You are a fucking DELUSIONAL SCHIZO and Ehrman is a liar.
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This. Nobody can ever challenge Christ himself. Edgelord atheists have to argue around him. Even islam has to accommodate him. He is still the ultimate model of virtue and every attempt to displace him has been an abominable outright failure.
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>>528011483
i dont need carrier's book to know this stuff anon. its just obvious because its jewish. and i have my own divine memory and it is incongruent with what jews purport. i knew it was a lie since i was a child. its gross and offensive. everything else has just been proving i already knew, and christianity's foundations are not hard to see through. they rely on very amateur deception tactics, catered towards uneducated people. theres a reason that expert wished to remain anonymous, he knows it would ruin him. because this is the world we live in, the judeo-christian, one built on lies.
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>>528011629
>i dont need carrier's book to know this stuff anon
HAHAHAHAHAHAH.
> its just obvious because its jewish.
Pure schizo.
You aren't operating in reality. You literally think "JEWS, THAT ATTACK CHRISTIANITY ALL THE TIME IN COLLEGES, MEDIA, GOVERNMENT POLICY, ETC DON'T WANT TO TEACH THAT JESUS DIDN'T EXIST!"
Fucking retard.
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>>528011524
bart ehrman's expert is clearly not in line with carrier, hes probably someone much further up the food chain of academia. where does carrier teach? this person probably teaches at an ivy league, or some reputable institution, and he wouldnt include that in the curriculum, even though its the truth.



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