*drop mic*
>>528044216Sneed's Feed & Seed (formerly Chuck's)
>>528044298I don't get it. @grok what does that mean
>>528044216>inb4 CHINA NUMBAH 1
>>528044216how many torpedos with nuclear warheads does it take to destroy a battlegroup? One.
>>528044216Well you do like 65% of the time, since you only have one and they need 18 months of maintenance every few years, you operate zero during that time
>>528044398>torpedos with nuclear warheadsAre you retarded? Torpedos are literally the least effective weapons against battlegroups.
>>528044216You'll be able to add China to that in a couple of years, their Type 004's are under construction now.
>>528044398Actually not true, you can read the soviet plan to destory a carrier and they estimated it would take 80 planes on a suicide mission and 10 direct hits to sink a single carrier and we have 11 super carriers and 9 amphibious assault ships
>>528044216Look at that large target you have parked in the ocean. It would be a tragedy if somebody were to sink it with a swarm of 50k $50 drones.
>>528044398Only America currently operates any nuclear torpedo's, they're very unlikely to nuke their own carriers.
>>528044989Lol
>>528044989What $50 drone is flying 50km offshore, with an offensive payload?
>>528044216Nuclear powered subs > carriers
>>528044216
>>528044540>Are you retarded? Torpedos are literally the least effective weapons against battlegroups.Explain. I am in the mood to laugh. They are after all nuclear.
>>528044216Who operates a hunk of shit that has no real value over a diesel powered warship?
>>528045033>Only America currently operates any nuclear torpedo'Russia does. They have one that is run by AI as well.
>>528044216The Charles de Gaulle is in a complete ruined state.And good luck for the "new french" to build a new one
>>528044640>80 planes on a suicide mission and 10 directIndeed, it would now take 80 suicide drones scoring 10 hits to sink a carrier.
>>528045171It was a movie set, the jews tricked you
>>528045033America will nuke the French carrier to be the sole operator of nuclear powered aircraft carriers in the world. Here's why that is a good thing.
>>528044640Anon the USSR hasnt existed for almost 3 decades1 $5M hypersonic and it's over
>>528044216>but muh nuklearsounds fierce but fueling is the only advantage
>>528045269We have Leonidas H2O already bud>>528045295Hypersonics wouldn’t be able to find the carrier bud, most of the planes were needed just to find the thing, satellites can only get you the general area
>>528045213No, Russia USED to, all they have now is that stupid fucking wunderwaffe project the Poisedon (formerly Status-6)
>>528045295>1 $5M hypersonic and it's overWith Russia's famously lazy CEP vs a moving target, in the ocean?
>>528045033Just drop an H-bomb in the water next to the carrier lad.
>>528046135*carrier moves 15-20 miles away from where you targeted in the time it takes from launch*you turdworlders sure are dumb, nukes and hypersonics are only effective against stationary targets
>>528044540>Torpedos are literally the least effective weapons against battlegroups.Lol>>528045033>Only America currently operates any nuclear torpedo'sRetard
>>528046550Ballistic missile sub could get it there faster but there's still no point when a nuclear or even conventional torpedo could do the job. Subs and underwater autonomous weapons are by far the biggest threats to carriers
>>528045171>Never had a foreskin
>>528046135Drop it with what? What method are you using to accurately get the carriers position? The "blow carrier up with massive explosion" part is the easy bit, its all the other shit that's hard, like getting the warhead to the carrier, or targeting the carrier accurately in the first place.
Forgot my pic
>>528046583Discounting Russias idiotic Status-6 wunderwaffe project who else do you think currently operates nuclear torpedo's anon?
>>528044989I have my doubts about Temu drones being able to carry payloads big enough to threaten warships.
>>528046715Thinking about strangers cocks is niggersexual
>>528044216how is france so powerful while being so tiny
>>528046698Subs arent really the threat people think they are, we have the entire ocean floor covered with microphones. We were able to recovered a sunk russian sub from the ocean floor because we knew precisely where it was all the way back in 1974>but muh swedes got a single hit in 2006 war game!!1!so what?
>>528046880Silence you circumcised golem.
>>528046550>you turdworlders sure are dumbWhy you mad? Did you lose your foreskin or smth?
>>528046804Russia has more than the status 6 but even if that was it I'm still correct. Your country had nuclear depth bombs not sure if they are still active.
>>528046723Carriers can be seen from space and from the perspective of a hypersonic missile it's a stationary target. Both China and Russia have the capability to do that and hypersonics aren't really even the most cost effective option today with prevalence of drones even subs and underwater drones can do the trick these days. Carrier isn't a meaningful weapon against a real military power, they are only useful when projecting power against a vastly inferior goat herder or insurgent type enemy where a movable floating airfield is a highly useful asset.
>>528047339That's what I'm saying anon, no-one else has any currently operation nuclear torpedo's, aside from America.
>>528045502>satellites can only get you the general areaIs this more bullshit from whatever soviet era reports you were reading? Russia, China, and the US all have military satellites that can watch a captain through a porthole while he's taking a shit in real time. Do you still think naval movements are secret? Even all the subs are tracked from the second they leave dock, and it makes national news if we lose track of a Russian one for a day.
>>528046995How useful are those mics when 1000 decoy underwater drones are buzzing around everywhere? Or hell even 1000 real underwater drone weapons. Carriers are national prestige projects at this point. I'm not saying they are useless, far from it, but they are the past they shouldn't be the focus of new military spend
>>528047112Go be a gay nigger elsewhere ya closet homosexual bitch
>>528044216Who operates diesel subs that sink nuclear carriers during excersises?Sweden.the Netherlands.*Drops mic twice*
>>528047708Bith are ruled by shitskin rapistsGtfo
>>528047156Less than half of americans are cut now bud, you europoors need a new linehttps://www.medpagetoday.com/pediatrics/generalpediatrics/117464>>528047488Russia and china do not have our satellite capabilities bud>>528047546Look, i support the fortress america theory and eisenhowers new look policy myself the idea that a carrier is easy to sink with either “$50k drone swarms” or “hypersonics” is really silly. Really the other country in the world that could even hope to take a single carrier out would be china, and that’s using everything theyve got
>>528044216Now map who operates hypersonic missles which are the weapons which disable every single of those carriers without a fight and from across the globe.
>>528047352>and from the perspective of a hypersonic missile it's a stationary target.Its not, the time from launch to impact is significant and in the order of several minutes.>Carriers can be seen from spaceAnd the first thing that will happen in a peer-vs-peer armed conflict in the current year is that space will become a junkyard with every earth observation satellite taken out as a priority. > aren't really even the most cost effective option today with prevalence of drones even subs and underwater drones can do the trick these days.Again, GPS satellites, GLOSNASS and whatever the name of the thing China uses will be targets of priority. Even without them being taken out even in Ukraine GPS spoofing and jamming is heavy, and without fibre-optic guidance drones can only target non-mobile threats, using inertial guidance. >Carrier isn't a meaningful weapon against a real military powerI don't agree with that sentiment, a mobile airfield will always be a decent asset.
>>528047955Hypersonics are only effective against stationary targets you absolute retard. The carrier will be miles away from where you aimed in rhe time it takes from launch to reentry from space to achieve the hypersonic speeds. Why do you turdworlders not understand that a carrier moves and is one of the fastest boats ever made despite its size?
>>528047978>Its not, the time from launch to impact is significant and in the order of several minutes.Irrelevant, a hypersonic missile isn't a ballistic missile. It can get new targeting data from the satellites, radars, aircraft and even it's own sensors up to the point of impact.>And the first thing that will happen in a peer-vs-peer armed conflict in the current year is that space will become a junkyard with every earth observation satellite taken out as a priority.Hypersonic can navigate to target before satellites are shot down and they can be targeted trough other means too. Not to mention that if someone is going total satellite death then every sane power is going to launch nukes at that point anyways.>And the first thing that will happen in a peer-vs-peer armed conflict in the current year is that space will become a junkyard with every earth observation satellite taken out as a priority.That's irrelevant like I said.Hypersonics are an obvious counter but they aren't the only one. For the price of a carrier and it's airwing you could launch literally thousands of cruise missiles hundreds of which could be armed with nuclear warheads and still come out financially or hundreds of thousand of drones. >>528048113Hypersonics aren't unguided ballistic projectiles, they can adjust their trajectory in real time. A hypersonic launched at a carrier will have more than enough maneuverability to reach every point within the range a carrier could possibly travel in the time between the launch and when it hits.
>>528045292>Here's why that is a good thing.To keep it out of the hands of the Emirate of Frankistan.
>>528048113>only effective against stationary targetsa common misconception, you should read a book, nigger>what are satelitesunless you employ sci-fi means to destroy every sattelite in space, you're screwed
>>528044216French is “carrier”. They have one nuclear powered carrier and it is way out of date now.
>>528044216Nations outside of Africa with a higher population than 10%. Wow
>>528047352This is as retarded as thinking tanks are obsolete because of videos of drones knocking them out.
>>528048591A tank is a cost effective weapon because it doesn't cost billions and you can (and serious powers will) have thousands of them. A carrier isn't because it will be taken out cost effectively by a hypersonic missile or a drone or a torpedo and the replacement cost makes them an asset that can't be risked in an actual fight. Just the manpower expenditure alone is completely unsustainable, a carrier has a crew of nearly 5000 people on board which will all die when a nuclear strike takes it out. That represents enough crew to man over thousand tanks.Carrier isn't obsolete, it's still highly useful against insurgents and goat herder type enemies that don't pose a serious threat. The capability to project power like that against inferior enemies is why China is building it's own carriers even though they know theirs will be sunk by a missile or a drone all the same in a major power conflict.
>>528048431>Hypersonics aren't unguided ballistic projectiles, they can adjust their trajectory in real timelmao, you are a retard. Hypersonics are missiles that get launched into space and use gravity to accelerate to hypersonic speeds. Once they make reentry they are not able to maneuver much at all. A hypersonic is almost completely worthless against a carrier >>528048500No one else has the satellite network we have, like not even close. We own 96% of all satellites and make 95% of all launches currently
>>528044556chinas already dead
>>528044216>*drop mic*To where? 1970? Those things are obsolete as fuck.
>>528044216>muh billion dollar giant bullseyes for 5 dollar drones
>>528048967>Hypersonics are missiles that get launched into space and use gravity to accelerate to hypersonic speedsAnd they aren't an unguided projectile on a ballistic trajectory despite of that. That's the entire point that differentiates a modern hypersonic weapon from a ballistic missile. The V2 rocket was "hypersonic" in the sense that it reaches mach 5 at the end of it's trajectory but it's not a hypersonic weapon. A hypersonic weapon is a weapon that can travel and maneuver significantly during atmospheric flight at hypersonic speed, not just a projectile that hits mach 5 at some point of it's flight. It's also why USA is considered to be significantly behind in hypersonic weapons even though they have a slew of ballistic missiles, because those aren't the same thing.
>>528044216>muh nuclearYou have niggers operating your aircraft carriers
>>528044216hold on, there's about 6 aircraft carriers in europe and you're telling me only ours is nuclear powered?and somehow russians that can make nuclear subs don't have a nuclear carrier?china even?
>>528046774For a Russian submarine like the Oscar-2 this picture is like an all you can eat buffet of targets.
>>528049315Yes, during atmospheric flight, not reentry, can’t you read dumbass? The carrier will be miles away from where it aimed. Absolutely no one, not russia, not china, not the USA thinks a hypersonic can take out a carrier. The only way to take out a carrier is to gain air superiority and send dozens of planes on suicide missions to strike it repeatedly. This is why china has a mock carrier on tracks in the desert. Holy shit you turdworlders are so retarded it’s unreal
>>528045502India has hypersonic weapons with 3m CEPEven the jeets could destroy a US carrier
>>528049683See >>528049667You fucking low iq dumbass, carriers are not stationary targets
>>528049667>Yes, during atmospheric flight, not reentry, can’t you read dumbass?Yes, a hypersonic will spend most of it's trajectory fully guided flying in atmosphere at hypersonic speeds>The carrier will be miles away from where it aimed.It's aimed at the carrier, it will be where the carrier will be because it's not an unguided projectile. A hypersonic missile can reach any point a carrier could reach between the time of it's launch and the time it hits the carrier, no matter what movements a carrier makes. With room to space mind you.
>>528049667Yeah nobody's said that China could do it. Except the secretary of defense, but what does he know?https://interestingengineering.com/military/chinas-could-sink-all-us-carriers
>>528044216me and this french guy are the only two non-polish, non-latvians in my homm3 circlebased on this i can declare the french to officially be Pretty Cool Guys™
>>528045181How big is a nuclear blast? How does being underwater effect that blast? How fast does a battlegroup move? How fast do torpedos move? How spread out is a battle group? How detectable are torpedo launches? Answer those and then we can all have a laugh at turdies who don't understand how nukes are used and how they aren't simply a "I delet U" button for modern conflicts. You might as well stick with fluffing China about their hypersonics since they both move a hell of a lot faster than torpedos and China actually claims to have them.
>>528049632Do they stay that close to each other all the time or was that just for the picture?
>>528045203>yuroid can't into logisticsDon't be so pissy Nigel, your ramp is very nice
>>528049947Hahaha you are fucking retarded>>528049974This frat boy doesnt know anything, try to find a real general or think tank, you cant because no one thinks it
>>528046715This.
>>528047649>Go be a gay nigger elsewhere ya closet homosexual bit-ACK
>>528049974They say this shit to get more money
>>528050148He's the one in charge you colossal retard, the US lost an aircraft carrier to fucking Iran in the most sophistocated wargame we ever conducted over 20 years ago. God you need a reality check so bad, we lost 3 F/A-18s to the goddamn Houthis just last year becuase they forced the aircraft carrier carrying them to take emergency evasive action due to their shitty hand-me-down Iranian missiles you moron.
>>528046774>we are in 1917!!>hurr durr hit ships with torpedoesWhat is an anti-ship missile, nigger?
>>528044364it's a subtle joke my dude
>>528047882>Less than half of americans are cut now bud, you europoors need a new line>https://www.medpagetoday.com/pediatrics/generalpediatrics/117464That's good for American boys. Still 90% chance that an Amerigoy posting on 4chan is circumcised. Don't pretend otherwise.
>>528045171give germany an honorary award
>>528049809You’re a brainwashed golem and once you piss off a country with half decent weapons and they sink one of your carriers everyone will know that you’re full of shit
>>528050101Maybe not that tight but very close. Russian subs regularly get in American Carrier groups and take photos' undetected.
>>528047882>lost against North Korea>lost against Vietnam>lost against AfghanistanThere’s like 30 countries that can destroy a US carrier battle group, but sure, keep drinking the kool aid, whatever helps you sleep
>>528045171There is a 50/50 chance your fat lol
>>528049599Russaids severely lack the funding, technical know-how and trained professionals to properly field carriers. China has all of those.
>>528044216This is incredible retarded if you think about it.Nuclear reactors are HUGE because they need a shitload of lead to protect life against radiation.By putting a nuclear reactor on a place, you make it way heavier (aka, slow) or you turn it into a death trap for the people inside.
>>528044364According to Leo (Brave's AI):This joke relies on a simple pattern recognition:Sneed's Feed & Seed follows the pattern: [Owner's name] + two rhyming words ending in "-eed"Formerly Chuck's implies the previous owner was Chuck, who would have followed the same naming pattern: [Owner's name] + two rhyming words.If you replace "Sneed" with "Chuck" and keep the rhyming pattern with "-uck" words, you get an inappropriate phrase involving common vulgarities.The humor comes from this implied crude wordplay that the joke never explicitly states, making it a bait-and-switch that catches people off guard when they figure out the pattern themselves.
>>528047882You're still cut though. Good goy
>>528044556My girlfriend playing with my cock be like:
>>528051853The Chink carriers are literally Kusnetsov clones
>>528050868>loseAnon, please don't be disingenuous, we chose to lose those wars because we wanted to fight like fags (and still had great kill counts)If it's an existential wat, there's not going to be any pussyfooting around
>>528044540A nuclear torpedo will lift the entire battlegroup out of the sea lmaoYou're thinking of conventional torpedos
>>528052100You are a retard. Aircraft carriers are already fucking huge the nuclear reactor won't change shit except give it power to operate without refuelingThere are no downsides to it on an aircraft carrier
>>528052272@grok I still don't get it, can this faggot AI tell me what the fuck he means? Chuck's Sneeduck and Feeduck isn't funny at all
>>528050449so entire usa fleet is worthless and pose near 0 threat to china but they wont take taiwan just because they dont feel like it?
>>528049632Oscar II — lolololololololololol. Might as well have blinking lights and an air horn on that sub.
>>528050003They blew up and sunk several ships with an underwater nuclear detonation after WWII. Operation crossroads at bikini atoll.
>France
>>528053398but better maintained and actually functional...
>>528044216CORSICA HAS A SUPERCARRIER?HOLY SHIT ITS OVER
>>528059554France is the second biggest arm exporter after the US.
>mutts seething over someone else having a nuclear carrierare you guys aware that you can't make nuclear plant boilers on your own since you closed the dedicated Bethlehem Steel plant in the 80s?can't buy them ether since japan got a decade long wait listamericans need to address their on technology loss and infrastructure decay for their own good
>>528044216>be frog>have 1 nuclear powered carrier>it spends 90% of its life in portThis is why we have MUH RAMP and have 2 carriers at sea while you have zero most the time.At least mutts can talk shit because they built enough that they can maintain their battlegroups 100% of the time
