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Ah well, I didn't really care for any of it after TNG anyhow. Did they write this drivel for a She Won future that never arrived?
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>>528199282

Our-Mission-

To Pimp Nigger&Jew Rape Camps throughout the Universe!
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>>528199282
It's by design genius, the goal was to destroy any franchise that served as a cultural pillar
There are tens of trillions in capital controlled by globalist cave jews like Blackrock/Vanguard and they created a new economic model for all the major corporations below them, i.e. destroy everything loved, and the better job you do, the more $. from these infinite stacks you'll get
so they can dump literal shit onto the screen and laugh all the way to the bank
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>>528199547
>the goal was to destroy any franchise that served as a cultural pillar
That's just stupid because peope stop watching, and it can't really retroactively ruin the old stuff. All they did is kill their own nest egg. They did it to Star Wars, Star Trek, Tolkien, Harry Potter, damn near any franchise you can think of in video games, etc. And what's the result? They're all on the rocks because all of this was funded by USAID. Blackrock and Vanguard didn't pay for this. Jews aren't using their own money, lol. We learned that over $20 billion a year in USAID went straight to domestic media.

That's the piece of the puzzle you missed. They're all hurting because they've invested in the slop factories because it was a SURE BET - the taxpayer was footing the bill. They thought they had reached the end of history and it'd be like that forever. But nope! Trump snatched their golden goose away.

That's why Disney is cancelling over half their shows, closing rides (including the new Star Wars theme park that just opened a couple years ago), why all these studios are firing everybody... it was all a grift and the grift is up. So take heart, now that you know this. They can't ruin your old shows, all they can do is harm themselves.
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>>528199517

It was an upgrade from Gorillas on the Moon.
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>>528199282
its been dead since the days of voyager
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Trek died when Riker ended the Enterprise simulation
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>>528200411
Voyager became so damn tiresome, I really did watch it. The horrid characters, the poor acting - except from a few, like Mulgrew and the Vulcan black guy and Neelix's actor, given his shit part, and the Indian fella. Everybody was given shit parts and did their best. The whole "the vulcan chick with the fake cans got addicted to space crack" and the fact that the chick who got Obama elected were in it, makes it a dumpster fire.

DS9 was also a dumpster fire, a quick job meant to steal Babylon 5's thunder. Acting was generally better than Voyager. I did watch Enterprise too, that was OK. The blue guy with the antennas just did his part like Shatner played Kirk and it worked out perfectly lol. It was a corny show with a lot of terribly gay moments overall though and I quit with Star Trek after that. The little bit I've seen of the newer ones makes me think I made a good decision.

>>528200489
Yeah and Tom Bombadil was Sauron.
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>>528199282
what irks me the most is how fat those "peak humans" all are
>>528200411
checked for this
janeway was a traitor that let parasites take over her crew
enterprise had some good episodes though, like the one were they encountered aliens observing a sun
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>>528199282
>woke Star Trek
ayooo whiteboi - fire dem phasers yo fo real. pop some of dat plasma in his assss
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>>528199282
Star trek died at the gay ass movies and was dying at cancelation of enterprise / voyager
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>>528199844
i am with the other anon on this one
they intentionally let stupid lesbos and niggers ruin stuff because they can and hate white guys
so it's a "let's take his toy away and break it" situation
>Blackrock and Vanguard didn't pay for this. Jews aren't using their own money, lol
they create money and give it to blackrock and vanguard to do exactly what you say USAID did
hell, blackrock openly told us that credits and their framework is dependent on how heavily niggerfied everything is
>>528200803
>Babylon 5
the right choice
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>>528199282
It was already a zombie franchise so Hollywood decided to milk it for one last time
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>>528199282
>Mickey Mouse character
what the fuck? did Disney bought this IP too?
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>>528201151
The one with the drunken warp engine codger was OK. Some of the ones before that. The movies afterward were ass and the reboot was atrocious. They just completely threw decades of carefully constructed lore out the window. Heck they can't even keep the races looking the same movie to movie!

Glad to see all their shit flopping.
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>>528199282
Wrong, DS9 was kino!
Enterprise is where shit became bad.
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>>528199282
Out there, somewhere, Scott Bakula is happy to hear he was not the one to do it.
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>>528199547
>the goal was to destroy any franchise that served as a cultural pillar
They do that in season 2 of every show ever made. Season 1=based bait. Married With Children for example
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>>528199282
They went overboard. The goal is to humble and degrade white people. The minute you put Blacks wearing skirts and talking pronouns, destroys the whole purpose and makes the lesser races angry and aware of the scheme.
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>>528199282
More like Star Rekt.
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>>528202293
Klingons are space niggers.
Ferengi are space kikes.
The Borg are space chinks.
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>>528199282
Star Trek is still awesome!
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>>528199282
More like Star Wreck. Good job kikes. You keep adding niggers like some secret ingredient of failure.
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>>528199282
It's just a spin off show that's totally woke and retarded. They just had to have one. There's multiple Star Trek shows running and Strange New Worlds is a pretty good show.
It's not done yet.
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>>528202590
>white people are so powerful you need to create shows just to degrade them
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>>528199282
normal trekkies just rewatch deep space 9 on loop or pray for a new season of the orville
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>>528202991
nailed it
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>>528199282
I'm watching Star Trek TNG from season one, we didn't know how good we had it.
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>>528199282
>new woke Star Trek
Star Trek was woke from the beginning you fucking ignorant imbecile.
Ask google which show had a first interracial kiss on TV you fucking retard.
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>>528202671

>Ferengi are space kikes

Actually the founders are.
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>>528199282
They said that about discovery yet here we are
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>>528199844
>peope stop watching
Exactly the plan. Jews figured out how to bet on things failing, it's called shorting. The worse a company does, the more money they make, then they buy when it's low to pump again.
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>>528203134
star trek was woke from the beginning....
see how i know my shill twitter line perfectly because im a fucking retard NPC
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>>528199282
>MFW I'm not the targeted audience.
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>>528199282
They went overboard with the excessive girl power and weak male portrayals—good riddance. Plus, they made the Klingon openly gay, which feels over the top.
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>>528199844
>That's just stupid because peope stop watching, and it can't really retroactively ruin the old stuff
Of course it can.
Books on a shelf are no different from bones in a tomb.
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>>528204694
We'll see in a couple years how that works out. Many of their properties are going to simply... die. There will be no wave to ride without an audience.

>>528204940
First Edition 40k, AD&D books, these are going for more than the new woke shit. Same with video games. Everything really.

It didn't work lol.
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>>528199282
all jewish media is bad. you shouldn't care at all about it. the only tv and movies you should be watching are ones made by white people
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>>528202991
Kys tranny
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>>528199282
>gay niggers from outer space
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>>528203134
You are confusing woke with progressiveness. The first interracial kiss on screen was with a hot educated and respectful black woman. Not a concrete ape bix nood. Star Trek portrayed diversity and progress in a respectful manner. Not in a derogatory way where bottom feeders like gays and fat sheboons were treated as equals.

TOS even had an episode where space hippies died from smoking alien weed. Back when hippies were the liberals of the time.

It was progressive but not woke.
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>>528205581
>hot educated and respectful black woman.
No such thing libtard.
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>>528202671
spacebased and holodeckpilled
enjoy the latinum fellow federationalist
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>>528205581
it put the science in the science fiction
today its just fiction slop
remember when they destroyed trust in science ?
because science as a concept in the minds of the consumer was a obstacle in the way of corporate interest
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Star Trek has been shit since JJAbrams/Kurtzman took over ... it was weak since TNG (kids' show) ... only the 60s original with the original SPX is worth watching
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>>528205356
actually yes
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>>528209072
Spx?
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>>528199547
yep. Gen X and millenials of all races were united by their shared love of popular culture properties. They took this unity to the internet communities they spent time on. From this unity sprang stuff like OWS and the successful SOPA/PIPA protests on Reddit
The Smith Mundt Modernization Act was passed and wokism was introduced to the cultural environment after OWS. It's purpose: To shatter the unity of the educated middle class and disgust the working class away from democratic socialist reform. It worked a treat.
Reddit was dramatically restructured after the SOPA/PIPA protests - the subs that hosted the protests were kicked off the default list and the mods responsible for the protests' organization were drummed out of their positions. It was at this time that they put Ghislaine Maxwell herself in charge of many of Reddit's popular subs.
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>>528202699
>(MBR computer voice) Warning! You have exceeded your allotment of replicator rations for the month.
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>>528210265
Kek literally heard it in her voice.
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>>528205643
As a conservative white gentleman from the South, I have drilled for more oil than Exxon. You're fucking retarded. Some of those girls are fucking princesses and you're missing out.
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>>528199282
Star Trek was always woke af. The first episode ever was literally about the chauvinist captain realizing "maybe women aren't completely useless" and it only gets better from there.
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John de Lancie is into little girls and has been linked to child love media and child love retreats.
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>>528200411
This, Voyager was a fucking slog. Every episode was a bottle episode with the worst casting and writing imaginable. At least they shoe horned Jeri Ryan's tits into a third of all the shots after the second season
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>>528213340
and Marina Sirtis is trans
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>>528199282
quick! somebody turn off the tv! it's GAY!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg&pp=0gcJCZQKAYcqIYzv
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>>528199282
Star Trek ended with Enterprise on 2005
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>>528200803
Bombadil was Tolkien.
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>>528199282
Star Trek was always gay and anyone who obsessed over it deserves to be fucked by a horde of niggers.
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>>528202671
Klingons were the USSR/Mongolian Viking Samurai in space
Borg were a dark reflection of the Federation.
Ferengi are Jew Classic
Bajorians are New Jew(Post WW2)
Founders are the elite Zionists.
Romulans were Chinese to the Vulcans Japanese.
Pakleds are from Dixie.
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>>528215686
She did have some amazing tits.
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Look I'm acting!
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>>528217077
Beren was the self insert for Tolkien.
Bombadil is god.
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>>528217643
>>528215686
Reminder, the reason Obama became a senator is because Jeri Ryan's Husband was a senator but had to step down due to passing her around at sex clubs.
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>>528217695
Wrong. Beren was the stand in for Illuvatar. Bombadil existed before Arda was formed.
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>>528217928
Correct. And the long distance for voyager filming was the nail in the coffin for the marriage. If voyagers writers didn’t suck so bad Jeri Ryan wouldn’t have been necessary. Obama might not of have become president. Might not have baited trump and ignored Putin in 2012.
TLDR- Star Trek Voyagers bad writing caused the time shift. And here we are.
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>>528199282
>Didn't care for anything after TNG
Picard is an old bald French cosmopolitan faggot. My captain is Archer, the based American adventurer. Enterprise is the only trek worth watching, develop some taste OP
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>>528217659
whatever that hair is on her forehead, its gross
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>>528217986
Yea, he exist before Arda...Because Bomdabil is a jolly fellow with boots of yellow and the name of eru ilúvatar
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>>528199547
It started to decline soon after Roddenberry died. It didn't start in 2009.
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>>528199282
i like how star trek teaches us that 300 years into the future black women will be even more insufferable than they are today
very good lesson to learn now
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>>528218254
>it’s been a long road
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6SQvZGkydyQ
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TODAY IS A GOOD DAY FOR AN INTERSPECIES HOMOSEXUAL ROMANCE
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>>528199547
Not exactly. They're okay with the failure of woke media because they're okay with the failure of media that isn't theirs. But make no mistake, they believed in the vehicle of a counterhegemony taking over. The fact that it destroyed something we loved is a consolation prize, not the main motive.
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>>528202293
Enterprise is based and also the last Star Trek that was ever made.
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>>528218254
I couldn't stand how childish Archer was in his approach to everything. Before his evolution in the Xindi arc, he was very petty, childish, spoiled, arrogant and impatient. He was an awful leader.
There were several episodes where he nearly starts a war with another species because they didn't say hello to him.
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>>528205581
Abe Lincoln calling Uhura a negro was peak trek
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>>528199547
>the goal was to destroy any franchise that served as a cultural pillar
They've done it before, just more obviously.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_purge
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This is who made the last 3 series. I wonder what his goal was shoving every far left ideology down every viewers throat...
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>>528218936
GAY KLINGON NOMADIC POLYGAMOUS HUNTER GATHERERS
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>Cadet! address us by our correct pronouns!
>Xer yes Xer!
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>>528202859
Just to be the devils advocate here, I've only seen the first season of strange new worlds but I was actually pretty pleasantly surprised. Might just be because I had very low expectations, but still, I enjoyed what I've seen so far.
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>>528199282
>Apparently the new woke Star Trek is so bad that it's killed the franchise.
Again?
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>>528218936
That's the laziest facial prosthetic I've ever seen on a Trek show, including the original series
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>>528219245
he went with "negress"
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>>528199282
As a neet I do surveys for beer money from time to time. I recently read a concept for a new star trek show about time travel and romance that sounded horrible. It was a long paragraph that sounded like a woman wrote it.
I'm a trekker since TNG, and this really saddens me that it's dead.
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>>528219845
they race swapped kyle. that's all i needed to hear to not want to watch it.
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>>528199282
i just watched the trailer and there's 3 scenes in 2 minutes featuring a white actress making out with a non-white actor kek. kinda glad i never got into any tv show "brands"
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>>528199517
>Our-Mission-
>To Pimp Nigger&Jew Rape Camps throughout the Universe!
Other planets need crime too.
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>>528202920
So proud of his German blood that he claimed to be Swedish in The Art of the Deal
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>>528199282
>it's killed the franchise
Franchise was already dead
This is just the skin of the franchise draped over a muppet with sticks to move its arms
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>>528218939
Jolene Blaylock was distractingly hot. I could barely keep track of the dialogue whenever she was on the screen. She also made me feel very lonely so I stopped watching Discovery.
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>>528220801
Be whatever gets you what you want.
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>>528219999
Digits confirmed. I stand corrected good sir
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>>528199282
>a She Won future that never arrived?
Basically
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>>528199282
>Apparently the new woke Star Trek is so bad that it's killed the franchise
This already happened with Star Trek Discovery and Picard. And it was already on life support with Enterprise in the 2000s. Nobody was even paying attention to Star Trek after these video abortions. Until Alex Kurzman is gone from running the franchise and it is liberated from the Paramount dungeon and bought outright by someone who actually cares about the franchise, it will not improve. Just be glad we got some banger series in the 1990s and be content with that.
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>>528221570
In one moment literally
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>>528219245
And she says "why should you be sorry? In our century we've learned not to fear words."
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>>528217659
Striking resemblance to the Grendlers from Earth 2
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>>528200803
Fake tits space crack was on Enterprise.
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>>528209589
Real history here, Zoomies.
OWS was perhaps the last culturally cohesive movement that ranged across the spectrum of ideologies and groups.
Shattering it with identity politics worked better than the (((Banks'))) hired disruptors had ever anticipated. They then rolled that momentum into further schisming of relational ties between loosely affiliated groups through their interests.

Believe it or not, there was a time, prior to 2011, when you could argue with another person who had diametrically opposing views politically, and come to a reasonable understanding of one another's positions.
That ceased to be when people were trained to view their views as integral to the self, and ANY contrary stance was seen as a personal attack, as opposed to an ideological challenge.
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>>528217659
that must be cgi, now what thats really even if its a nigger
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>>528199282
The way to save this franchise is the same way to save Star Wars:
Do nothing for 5-10 years. Then start exactly where the franchise was last loved, and ignore everything that Disney/CBS did after.
So everything they did following DS9 is not canon and did not happen.
The new show takes place after DS9 and has episodic plots written by adults.
Simple.
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>>528218551
kek, his sides in orbit
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>>528218254
That's you, isn't it Nessie...
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>>528213340
well. that sucks

always wondered tho did choosing the Q shit have anything to do with star trek's Q. Like .. why that letter
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If you have not seen this series, leave this place:

>Babylon 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y235YEQstLo
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>>528224166
That is the question...
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>>528204940
My old 40k books sell for more than new ones, and thats truly wild because Game Workshop are the most greedy kikes imaginable.
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>>528199547
>the goal was to destroy any franchise that served as a cultural pillar
I agree with this.
I think its purely a cultural attack on white people. They buy the IP to anything made by a white person, and make it trash on purpose, specifically so people will hate it. (((They))) are destroying their enemies cultural identity while simultaneously flooding white countries with other cultures, and every year white people act more niggerish.
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>>528220801
you know that you can be more than one race right?
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>>528202526
Awful example, it stayed based.

>>528199547
This. Every single reboot is for this express purpose.
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>>528200803
honestly, voyager should have gotten sucked into tom's holodeck village and they all live happily ever after with the final season being everyone living in a comfy village. it dragged on so long i really wish they had like ten more holodeck village episodes
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>>528217659
does that expression allow her to draw two cards?
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>>528220801
Most Americans have some mix of ancestry, even if its as small as the difference between swede and german
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>>528199547
>take existing, beloved setting.
>smear your woke diarrhea all over it so it turns to shit
>It bombs and becomes irrefutable proof that woke nonsense is not nearly as popular as you try to portray it as
>demand for meaningful entertainment still exists and is constantly not met because you keep making retarded propaganda
>effectively create an indie renaissance where any dick with 10 grand and an iphone camera can BTFO your 100+ million dollar slop projects at will

I used to subscribe to the idea that the enshittening was for propaganda purposes, as in they didn't give a fuck if dem rangz made money because it's actual purpose is to generate the illusion of leftoid derangement being popular. But that idea just doesn't hold water, too many projects like that just keep crashing and burning, effectively functioning as anti-propaganda, demonstrating with no weaseling out that leftoid nonsense is actually not popular.
I know it boggles the mind but the elitists actually think thus shit is popular to wager billions of dollars on and are genuinely surprised when those bets don't pay off.
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>>528199547
>cave Jews
Based oldfag
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>>528226307
>doesnt hold water... effectively functioning as anti-propaganda
youre forgetting about the demoralization motive - if everything is terrible and everything fails, all sides become discouraged and demoralized. the social engineers get to tear down strong cultural pillars and replace them with garbage pillars that falls down on their own.
also i don't think the money matters - hollywood accounting is all about laundering money. the official entertainment industry just seems like a make work program to me
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>>528202396
>Out there, somewhere, Scott Bakula is happy to hear he was not the one to do it
Though it would have been funny to have the Captain of the Enterprise be literally retarded.
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>>528199547
>the goal was to destroy any franchise that served as a cultural pillar
This.

It's for the same reason as the "Bankers' Allies" immediately destroyed all of Germany's uplifting and inspiring art after WW2. Whites will be allowed to see and hear nothing but humiliation and demoralization.
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>>528205075
>>528224804
I have something of a pet theory that leftists are particularly obsessed with DnD and 40K because they release rulesets in the form of editions means you can easily and effectively create parallel communities that just play old pre-infestation editions, while also being easily able to onboard new members by handing them a PDF of 3E or whatever. As time goes on, the new wokeslop editions of both games will naturally and always be compared to the old editions because they'll still have communities. The leftist is more then happy to completely burn something to the ground and salt the earth because they'll be able to cope in the aftermath by telling themselves that it was actually all to own the chuds and they were never really planning on making a good game. But the fact that I can just tell them Cawl stealing and hoarding a shit ton of geneseed (the most important and closely guarded resource in the imperium) and proceeding to make better space marines then the Emperor (a living god with an innately better understanding of biology then a mortal with significantly better tech then cawl) is profoundly retarded and not canon, then ignore whatever they have to say and go back to playing old editions with old/3d printed models makes them absolutely apoplectic with asspain
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>>528199282
Kurtzman Trek and its consequences have been a disaster for the Alpha Quadrant.
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>>528219733
its a perfect example for a vulnerable ideology ( star trek / starfleet 'science-fiction' progressivity ) being hijacked by a predatory mind virus ( lgbtq+ diversity frankfurt school degeneracy )
throw the core of what made it special (sciency-fiction) overboard, hijacked the husk and inserted their mind virus payload, disguised with optics associated with the reputation of "the cool star trek" they infect unsuspecting newfags and consoomers with their behavioral poison.
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>>528228655
he bears the mark and proved his ill intent, throw them that opened the doors and allowed him in into the pit as well
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>>528227145
Propaganda. Make work implies they are not actively negative or hostile. The media serves two primary functions propaganda generation no matter how shitty and money laundering. Metric shit tons of money laundering. Think about it. Who pays for porn? Nobody. Who goes to the movies anymore? Nobody. Let according to their books they are still selling a LOT. What all they spew is shitty propaganda that even normies don't wanna see and normies also refuse to pay for porn too. The only time anyone pays for porn is the super niche stuff or furries.
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>>528228956
It's always been a show that pushed progressive propaganda in its day. While the vision it pushed from ToS-ENT was something that I'd say the vast majority of humanity would find acceptable or even aspirational, the modern prog movement is simply repulsive to normal people. A good illustration of the degeneration of formerly white Christian societies through the "art" it now produces.

>>528229055
Makes me wish the gas chambers weren't just for delousing.
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>>528199282
The should make a Star Trek series where women are raped repeatedly by the all male crew of a rogue starship
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>>528202991
The Orville was good, but it wasn’t revive the franchise good
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>>528229345
That's pretty much Tasha Yar's backstory except it was a planet instead of a spaceship.
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>>528229310
yes its not the fault of the show
its probably coincidence, that it hit star trek and star wars that hard, the reason that makes a circle from it is the populatrity of star trek, there are other sci fi franchises that are untouched by the rot.
this pic i just coincidentally saw in another thread
>>528229239
is a good example for the reverse working mechanism
they use the token ( on the left sitting on the table ) to lure in unsuspecting victims, you can clearly see from the location and setting ( paypig stream ) that this specimen is a ambush predator.
they hijack the "water hole" of the prey group and use it as hunting grounds to grow their organism/entity. this "porn" analogy is just the tip of the iceberg, over the course of the last two/three decades they used this mode of operation in all kinds of niches and aspects of culture/society
many other "subcultures" have been hojacked like this, it is a predatory behavioral (and probably physiological to some extent) mind virus that exploits the lack of protective measures in a subculture which harbors "prey" ( individuals that just wnt to grill/play/watch/think on their own withotu disturbance, this autistic focus they experience there makes them vulnerable, as this focus on the "scene topic" distracts them from these mimic-predators, dont be mistaken this is NOT 'just the gays' they are just a intermediate layer, a tool if you will.)
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>>528227145
The demoralization motive is precisely why I beg to differ with you. The goal of demoralization is to make you believe that your thoughts and ideas are fringe, and that you are alone in a world of retarded slop goblins who'll gladly slurp up whatever flies out of hollywoods ass, as well as to effectively manufacture concensus that their ideas are popular. Not only does this only work when their product succeeds, when their product fails it has the exact opposite effect. You now have an irrefutable benchmark that their ideas are not popular, and you are not nearly as alone as they'd like you to believe.
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>>528199547
>destroy any franchise that served as a cultural pillar
male cultural pillar
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>>528199282
eh they lost me at discovery with a sheboon called Michael and faggot doctors, im not watching nutrek go down the same way as fallout did.
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>>528229559
Star Trek: the rape gangs
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>>528202396
I liked enterprise more than voyager desu
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>>528228655
Kurtzman Trek is like if Mr Morden from B5 took over Star Trek.
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Star Trek Picard season 2 (almost made by JEW kurtzman) revolved entirely around illegal immigration in the shithole that is Los Angeles. Seven of Nine stops a bus of illegal migrants from being deported. They are all doctors and scientists you see. Not welfare leeches like they are in reality.

At least they portrayed Los Angeles as the shithole dump it is.
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>>528199282
Cisco was a pretty good nigger. Like they already did that schtick.Too bad they added niggers actually acting like niggers. Cause no one likes a nigger, especiallly not a nigger since they have to deal with niggers so much.
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>>528229878
Actually the demoralization is that an unpopular idea doesn’t stop them, they can literally just produce rage bait anti white male content into the foreseeable future and nothing will stop them including the fact that it seems like no one likes this shit. They’ll probably justify it as “international” audiences being the target, just like they did with Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl
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>>528230080
Of course you did. Enterprise is fucking awesome. The dude had to experience his way through being the first Starfleet captain to explore the Galaxy and find Earth's place in the greater community.

Captain Janeway was in space long after Kiek and Picard had shaped the identity of Starfleet. She had no excuse for her absolutely disregard for Federation policy in Starfleet regulation. Totally immoral freak. Imagine being under her command.
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>franchise that was always about globohomo one-Earth government
>they somehow ruined it by making it more about globohomo

Really?
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The JJ movies started the downfall, then STD was basically it's death knell. Tried to come back with some bullshit nostalgia bait(BORG AGAIN LOL) at Picard S3 but it was stupid and now this total abortion. It's beyond done.
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>>528230339
OG Star Trek takes place within the United Federation of Planets, which is stable diversity.

Nu Trek is anti-diversity, homogenized multiculturalist faggotry.
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>>528230148
Mr Morden got a honest job after getting out of TV. He runs a construction company. If he took over Trek, we would have something far better than what we have gotten since Enterprise was cancelled.
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>serious discussion of sci-fi slop on /pol/
Why does Star Trek have honest discussion, and Star Wars just gets shit on constantly? Is it because it was Disney that pounded Star Wars into a toxic mist of shit?
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>>528209072
I blame Star Trek II and Ricardo Montalban for salvaging the whole enchilada.
The whole thing was just about to die and have a fork shoved into it after that shitfest of a first movie, but his over-the-top performance made Shatner look like a Shakespearian actor and carried the whole movie. Played it perfectly.
He single handedly made all the following crap possible.
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>>528199282
I was an actor on this show. Not a star or anything, just a daily. This show was the biggest grift I’ve worked on. Everyone from the producers to the LSPs were running a giant scam to siphon money from the Canadian tax payer. It truly was a thing to behold people stealing that much in items. Also no one ever thought it would be good. I mean yea, the writers were delusional and they were all very green (and shitty) but other than that everyone involved was just there for the cheque. The black dude who plays the Klingon was also the most annoying fuck I’ve ever met.
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>>528230300
I genuinely don't understand the hate for Enterprise. It's fantastic, a couple stupid episodes aside.
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>>528230561
the core humanist message of star trek was perverted. the spirit of star wars remained mostly unchanged, if many important plot points were retconned or rendered irrelevant
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>>528230540
Based. But of course I meant the character. The guy who was doing Israel's dirty political influence work.
Did I say Israel? I meant The Shadows. I always get those 2 mixed up.

>>528230561
Because Star Wars is gay low brow estrogen Sci-Fant. Star Trek is (used to be) legitimate storytelling about the human condition, with an actually great approach to the sci-fi aspect specifically.
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>>528200803
Voyager was just their vain attempt to capture the audience from Babylon 5 using the Star Trek franchise.
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>>528230665
I remember a huge campaign to trash the show when it aired because of the intro song. It did not feel organic and the intro is actually good.
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>>528220801
I wish he'd do a DNA test so we can see if he's a Mong because i definitely see it in him
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>>528230649
Is that brunette they're doing a race mixing with French Canadian? She looks French Canadian.
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>>528199282
>star trek, star wars, blah blah
They need to let these things die already.
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>>528199282
I hate to break it to you all, but TNG was the only good Star Trek series.
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>>528199844
>That's just stupid because peope stop watching, and it can't really retroactively ruin the old stuff.
It's long play. Old stuff would be removed from platforms and search would be only finding new staff and technologically illiterate zoomers wouldn't know the better.
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>>528230448
Oh, my bad. Not globohomo. Universal homo.

The agenda was always there, just the times changed. Plus they probably use AI garbage to write shit scripts now.
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>>528219427
Wait
A
Fucking
Second
>we was Kaang's
>na I dont believe it
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>>528230561
Star Trek might have ideas, that were explored. Shit that might make you think, they usually showed both sides of the argument, even if they usually chose the liberal way.
>>528230649
>I was an actor on this show.
Sorry for your loss.
>This show was the biggest grift I’ve worked on.
I think 90% what comes out of """hollywood""" is scam.
>>528230665
It doesn't find its own tone until final season. Its basically TNG/VOY lite, that is more tired for most parts. It is also compared to its contemporaries. Whole concept of strictly episodic television came kinda obsolete when Berman and Braga were making Trek.
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>>528231231
Yep right as it was getting really good they went and killed it. A whole Romulan War and the founding of the Federation didn't get to see the screen.
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They need to reboot lexx.
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>>528224831
Oh it's somehow uglier
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>>528199282
Is no one going to talk about how ugly this nigger is? I know we are all worn out by niggers but I can't just gloss over this. Remember Stacey Dash? From Clueless? Now there was a hot black woman. Why can't they give us that again? Yes, I understand that's a unicorn ...hot black women are less common that good news, but still put in the effort. I think Haley Berry was ugly but I could see that others liked her.

This goofy nigger looks like pic related

Also star trek is and has always been fucking gay and you're a permavirgin if you disagree
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Kurtzman is aware of /pol/ , racist chuds be warned
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>>528230747
I'm sorry you've never felt a vagina. I'm genuinely sorry
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>>528231283
It sucks the Romulan war would have been cool.
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>>528231283
>Yep right as it was getting really good they went and killed it. A whole Romulan War and the founding of the Federation didn't get to see the screen.
That is the tragedy. Final season show runner and main writer was Manny Coto, he got in during 3rd season and got full control for 4th season. It was axed because of Paramount-CBS merger. They lost a reason to make somewhat expensive flagship show, also Les Moonves that was running the company hated it. Star Trek was "resurrected" and raped by same guy because he needed content for streaming service.
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>>528229837
It's just the same "permanent revolution" trotskyist bullshit that stalin purged from the USSR and set up here. Sucks ass that we managed to get the gayest and lamest form of communism here.
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>>528202293
ya, enterprise destroyed the franchise, everything after was to cancel what the series meant before. Destroying civilized culture by rebooting it and racemixing, taking morals out...etc

>>528202396
absolutely, absolutely. Simpsons last episode of season 2 literally Mr burns says "turns out all I needed was the blood of a young boy", after that series changes, homers stupider, less moralistic. Show was still good for years but never captured the family unit like season 1-2. Person of Interest season 2, 2012, current psyop was " womanpower, womenboss..etc", the show was so good that it didn't crumble until late season 2 early season 3, and it was obvious that, while having strong female characters is possible, the writing staff had ignored the entire shows tropes and mechanisms that made it work to accomplish it, thus ruining the show, then when JJAbrams saved it, it was #1 again. Still a great show, and a necessary watch in todays surveillance state. At the time, it went woke and needed saving, idk about now. Also, I miss old NY in TV circa 2000-2015ish.
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>>528219733
Jesus Christ
that Tig Notaro is a disgrace
I hate lesbians who look like dried kids.
Disgusting
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>>528231391
You don't wanna see her angry.
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B5 won.
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>>528231995
It's just not popular enough for IP necromancy. Be happy.
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>>528199547
There is no 4d chess mastermind ulterior motive, they just do it because they hate you and want you miserable in all fronts, is just malice
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>>528231648
You must be a child. Nerds used to be cool before they became mainstream and estrogenated like the guy who cries at Superman trailers.
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>>528232052
Hold on, they're raping Stargate first
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>>528232141
Stargape
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>>528199547

This, I've been saying this for years. Disney and other production companies are fine with losing hundreds of millions, even billions because big daddy Blackrock pays the bill. It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with propaganda. 2012 NDAA act started this when it allowed the Government to use propaganda on its own citizens.
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>>528218936
Niggerfaggot in space.
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>>528231858
>enterprise destroyed the franchise
>when JJAbrams saved it
Why do I know you that you don't know Trek at all? Jar Jar Abrams wrecked both Star Trek and Star Wars.
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>>528209589

This. All media went to shit after 2012 including video games because of the smith Mundt act (NDAA 2012). This is not nearly talked about here enough, its the primary reason all media is shit.
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>>528231917
Kek you got me thinking that the bitch looks like old Linus tech tips.
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>>528224831
Ugly beyond imagination.
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>hating on voyager
Voyager is far more fun to rewatch than TNG. 20% of TNG episodes are a fucking CHORE to watch. There isn't a single episode of Voyager that's worse than any of the Troi's mom episodes
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>>528232937
Threshold.
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It's all so tiresome...
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>>528232937
Voyager is a fucking drag, nigger.
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>>528232420
I was talking about person of interest, was I not clear? I thought the new trek reboot movies were meh. 3rd was attrocious.

>>528232937
first season TNG had really cool old-trek-style episodes
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TNG episode watching guide:
>see Troi's mom
>skip
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>>528224831
disgusting
I hate blacks
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>>528224916
Roddenberry was a Jew like Nimoy and Shatner
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>>528224831
Niggers come from hell.
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>>528230150
Infact Picard 1-2 are considered garbage.

I heard that anything after 2009 will be put in the Kelvin or alternate universe and they can return to the Prime Timeline
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>>528199547
I don't know if you've seen TNG recently, but it wasn't that good.
The space battles and the phaser fights were good, but all the moral grandstanding was superficial and commiecoded.
Nerds loved it and it was a very successful show on TV at the time, but it doesn't really hold up.
Voyager wasn't that good either, they had to swap the child for a hot Borg babe and up the comedy writing to draw ratings, and Deep Space Nine was just Babylon 5 in another suit.

Star Trek was never good.
The reason it sucks so bad now compared with the past, is that shitty people who suck their own cock for breakfast created the last 20 years of material.
People who don't care for the nerdish legacy because they themselves didn't like Star Trek growing up, and thus change everything to their liking.
People who think the special effects are best when there's way too much of them, when you can't see the fight clearly and when the ships fade behind all the debris in a cloud of flashy lights.
People who think the battleship-style shoot-offs were too slow, and the lines weren't taking enough of a political posture.
Who think everything has to be secretive and super spy and "omg personal issues aah look mom I'm directing".

There's a reason that the very first thing the new owner of Paramount did was cancel Star Trek.
The Ellison family are corrupted kikes to the core, it will never be good, but they hate shit that makes them stink.
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>>528230761
Deep Space Nine was.
It's the space station show mimicking the space station show.
Voyager is all about a tight-knit crew beating impossible odds seemingly forever, Babylon 5 is about regular military people running a diplomatic space station into a giant galactic war between the sides of good and evil, with civil war and the legendary Mollari-G'Kar rivalry.
Deep Space 9 really ripped them off. In Babylon 5, there was a vague suggestion of legit lesbian affection. Right after that, DS9 had full tongue action.
Male captain and female second? Male captain and female second.
Jump gate? Bajoran Wormhole.
Centauri? Cardassians.
Minbari? Changelings.
Rangers? Section 33.
Special new secret warship developed for the Shadow War called the White Star? "Hold on we've got the Defiant somewhere, aha special new secret warship".

Couldn't be cheaper if they tried.
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>>528234302
TNG (seasons 3-7) is the best American network television show ever made.
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>>528232937
Yes, i've said it before and i also checked the imdb score for all episodea and it seems to be true in general.
Tng got higher highs but lower lows then voyager. Voyager is a more even show.
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>>528230665
>I genuinely don't understand the hate for Enterprise.
70% of it comes down to that god awful intro music. I'm in physical pain trying to endure it on my TV.
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>>528235276
Some voyager episodes really knock it out of the park.
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sg-1 better than [your show]
debate
oh you can't
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>>528200411
>ToS put women in the workplace (not-military)
>put a niggress on the bridge and had shatner kiss it
>globalist utopia where all races are equal
Truth is, the game was rigged from the start.
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>>528205581
It's called the slippery slop you absolute fucking mongoloid. Just how kikes starting pushing homo acceptance and then homo marriage and only THEN did they go into overdrive with pride month and the trooning of kids. Just because they didn't start with trannoid freaks doesn't mean they weren't always the goal.
Dumb faggot.
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>>528205581
>it was classy racemixing it's different!
niggerlover
you're the problem
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>>528225491
top kek
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>>528236095
I'll debate this after I finally get around to watching it. I've only seen the first movie.
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>>528200803
Most Star Trek sucked.
People are nostalgic over nothing.
TNG was an above average show.
Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks slightly above average.
Everything else was garbage to mid.
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>>528219315
interdasting, coincides with property prices skyrocketing.
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>>528199282
Yeah, TNG was peak, everything afte that started becoming worse.

But this is a burning trash dumpster caught in a shit tornade. It has absolutely nothing to do with Star Trek other than the name.
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>>528226307
You also forgot that their playbook is short and they reached the last page decades ago. They don't have the mind to do anything different anymore nor the talent to pull it off.
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>>528225491
KEK
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>>528200803
DS9 was questionable. Much more actio nand space battle focused, but it sufferd from horrible inconsistencies in scale and power as well as TERRIBLE acting for the Sisko guy (at elast early on). Honestly didn't care much to watch DS9 so I caught a few epsides and it seems like he improved his acting, but it's was so BAAAAD. Like he was trying to imitate differnet actors with weird pronounciations and emphasis. All over hte palce.
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>>528202671
Klingons have honor
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>>528230826
it's just incest/bloodline preservation
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The lack of respect for TOS and Kirk ITT is shocking.
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>>528199282
I've never laughed so hard in all my life as I have watching episode 1 of SA. Ep 2 was dumb and boring, same for ep 3. I haven't been back. Ep 1 was dumb and hilariously bad. I was tearing up over some of the lines
>ByE bYe MAw-MEE!!
It makes me giggle still haha
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>>528230203
They can claim that all they want but the numbers just aren't there and all their insistence does it make ever greater amounts of people consider them retarded. I mean thanks to their trash movies and shows Yidney has been seeing significantly less visitors in their parks. They are not achieving cultural dominance, by having some jewtuber out-stream their multi-million dollar show's premier with a figure of Spock on a chair. Instead they are just identifying themselves as destructive elements and alienating themselves from more and more parts of society.
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>>528235392
I really liked Voyager. The Doctor's family episode always got me, Red Forman fucking with time, Tuvix.. man, there were some really good episodes. Member the one with the sentient planet killing torpedo? I member..
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>>528235186
Cringe.
My eyes are bleeding
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>>528237260
>Yidney
Hahahahahaahah
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>>528231950
Jesus fucking Christ, they really went out of their way to cast the ugliest gorilla looking nigger they could possibly find.
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>>528232257
Yeah but propaganda only works if the medium is actually consumed by the populace. This isn't the case anymore.
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>>528237486
Yeah, its actually amazing that they found the missing link to play a hologram thats programmed to act like a "17" year old (she's a fucking retard) and programmed herself to look like that.
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>>528231950
I like how they all look like normies hired to attend a convention.
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>>528200803
>DS9 was also a dumpster fire
Spicy take, most hard core fans consider it the best. I always preferred TNG but the good ds9 episodes are really good
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>>528231917
I know exactly what you mean lmfao
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>>528231311
based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYoq6sovr8Y
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>>528232937
Voyager is a worse version of TNG
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>>528199282
>Apparently the new woke Star Trek is so bad that it's killed the franchise
It's just not the new show. Most of their stuff in the 2020s have been flops. It's beyond me why Paramount still funds this shit.
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>>528238034
Strange new worlds can be ok. All the other shit sucks, I especially hate Discovery
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>>528199844
The people that produce and write all this shit are all coastal liberals, so when it fails they just tell themselves its because of all the racists and bigots in the south and midwest who just can’t appreciate how enlightened and morally superior coastal elites are. It’s just a big excuse to poke the eyes of Americans they despise and prop up their own perceived moral supremacy.
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>>528236936
This is just objectively wrong
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>>528199844
they dont need your views
they dont need your money
they can print their own
its only stupid if youre stupid, and dont realize youre living a jewish occupation, even though its been.. 113 years now
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>>528199547
See HoTD or the Witcher
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Live long and suck it
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>>528236936
>Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks slightly above average.
LOL, lmao even. SNW is trash. Lower Decks is Trek branded parody of Trek with handful funny references to times when Trek was good, or at least average. Since it is parodying something better made earlier, it occasionally gets some stuff right by accident. Star Trek ended with Enterprise, everything since then is trash.
>>528237985
Because they made it that way. They never really embraced the premise of being lost in ass end of galaxy. So they made it TNG lite. A lot of early season episodes were scripts written for TNG, just like TNG recycled bunch of Phase II scripts.



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