>we created RomeAnd when Rome got brown, it collapsed.>we created GreeceAnd when Greece got brown, it collapsed.>we created AmericaAnd when America got brown, it collapsed.>we created Egypt, Babylon, Aryan IndiaWhen they ALL got brown, they collapsed.And I'm tired of pretending it's not true.
The ruling caste of all of these nations at their peak was when BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED royalty DOMINATED.And I'm tired of pretending it's not true.
>>528519740how many more cycles must we complete before we finally learn?
Copy paste from other thread since you are a dumb nordic ape with no knowledge of history or sciencesThis is as >WE WUZ as it gets and it's debunked by modern DNA studies on the Minoans, the Mycenaeans and modern Greeks.>Modern genetic research shows that modern Greeks derive a very large proportion of their ancestry from the ancient Mycenaeans. The landmark ancient DNA study by Lazaridis et al. (2017) in Nature found that modern Greeks genetically resemble the Bronze Age Mycenaeans, with estimates around ~70–80% shared ancestry from the same ancestral components as the Mycenaeans, although later admixture slightly diluted the early Neolithic farmer signal over time. Subsequent archaeogenomic work analyzing large ancient DNA datasets from the Aegean — such as the genome‑wide study published in Nature Ecology & Evolution (Skourtanioti et al., 2023) — supports the same overall model of continuity by showing that Aegean Bronze Age populations with substantial Mycenaean‑like ancestry form the core of later regional gene pools. Together, these peer‑reviewed studies indicate that a high percentage (on the order of roughly three‑quarters) of modern Greek ancestry is traced back to Mycenaean‑period populations, with additional smaller contributions from later groups.The Minoans were the main ancestors of the Mycenaeans, and the had mostly black hair as shown by their art etcThe first blonde hair we have found it is from the Mediterranean.Mycenaeans were a Mediterranean people with mostly with black hair but also had many exceptions of course with blonde people like Alexander the great, Alcibiades etc. Greeks simped a lot for blonde hair and it is the reason they made many of their heros they liked blonde. Blonde hair being rare made it much prettier, I explain it in capitalist terms so you may be get it.If you think Greeks were Nordic or looked like nords in general you are dumb as a rock
The most genius nations are DOMINATED by BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED people.They have also invented almost everything you use including the internet you Meds sperg at posts like these with.
>>528519740What you building now, Timmy? Asking for my friends
>>528519799>MinoansWere a bunch of irrelevant fuckers who got BTFO by a volcano. Then the BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED Dorians move in and founded Sparta. Soon after the Greek golden age began.>Alexander is described as having GOLDEN hairCoincidence faggot?
Countless descriptions of Greek gods and Roman Emperors having GOLDEN hair. Especially during their GOLDEN age.Why have the BLACK HAIRED "descendants" failed to create anything of note for thousands of years?
>>528519886>Minoans >Irrelevant Also..I hope..you know..that Mycenaeans were like 75% Minoans kekYou are so dumb. It's so funny. Posting your cute little images trying to prove a point disregarding history and peer reviewed DNA tests. You are like an albanian
>>528519740>collapsedThe land is still there, the people and the peasants are still there. Only the label change.
>>528519799i dont think anyone can tell for sure when hellenic art portrayed them both jews and greek as nordic looking in artart is simply preference in beauty and aestheticsts easy to convey nordic people as of the highest beauty when we posess the main building blocks for objective beauty;- symmetrical facial features- straight noses- taller skulls#1 the original greeks were wiped it and jews see it as divine feat for having laid waste to greek society.#2 the jews being infamous for being butt ugly, theres no way sumerians were nordic looking or whiter than greekwe know that the jews are more neanderthal and inbred, therefor objectively ugly and theyre still relatively dark.we know that turkish people who look more greek, also look more white/nordic.so i believe that greek is more nordic looking without a doubtand jews are a mix of arab/canaanite indian/gypsy-esque garbage that just simply look like a mutt arab.this also fits their behavior and mannerism, liars and thieves.
>>528520084>#1 the original greeks were wiped itwiped out*
>>528519835>source of measuring every single fucking human on earth and by country?>just trust me bro
>>528520084>Turkish people who look more greek, also look more white/nordic.Turkish who IS MORE GREEKlooks more white/nordic.cant write for shit but its easy to see which direction this pattern is flowing on its own.
>>528519740> we created something > it got brownedthere's a pattern here somewhere
>>528520174mensa score is significantly high = becomes easier to track.youre an idiot lol
>>528520084>>528520105I don't think you understand how rare "total whipe out" is in general Did you even read what I posted ? The DNA search ?Modern Greeks in general are 3/4 Mycenaeans and of the rest 1/4th is , also depending on the area, mostly Slavic usually around 5-16%. Northern Greece is higher in that regard.You can go see the Maniates , who were never conquered and see how they look.You cannot really be serious if you believe Greeks were Nordic people. It's not supported by anything, only Nordic >we wuz. No,you weren't. If Nordics are more beautiful in general etc is a whole another discussion. Historically tho? Nordics are completely irrelevant. Anything else is pure cope trying to find historical importance
>blame browns for destroying Rome>despite it being germanic tribal retards that lived in mud huts.>blame browns for destroying America despite it being retard boomers that sold the country to kikesI'm noticing
>>528519886they dieted his fucking neck density down and gave him a fucking zoomer haircut kekthe original mouth looks like trump's mouth, who is more celtic/irish?
>>528519740People on the 20s and 30s had it figured out.Unfortunately they weren't based enough to fix the problem.Dysgenics causes the collapse of most empires.It is really simple.A strong intellect people build a civilization that incorporates genetically comparable populations.But as it grows, it incorporates incompatible populations that out reproduce them and then the society goes to shit.
So here is how it works.The city is an demographic sink. Every city has a corresponding geographic area that is being drained. Smart, industrious, talented or beautiful people move to the city, they are put to work and generate economy. They experience a metropolitan lifestyle of degeneracy and excess, and experience an extremely low birthrate. Therefore, more people have to constantly be moving to the city to replace the ones that didn't breed. Every year, more of the most talented, beautiful, intelligent people are sucked into the cities.This does produce an insanely huge economy, of course. But on the flip side, it shreds the population genetically. All of your best people are systematically erased through low birthrates. This effect only got more rapid with the Industrial Revolution. Britain has been industrialized the longest, for about 200 years, and look how ugly their population became in that time. Australians are a time capsule of what British people from London "used to look like", before the shredding.Look at Rome. They created cities, indulged in excess, by the end they were exhausted of talent. The empire fell apart through sheer incompetence. The Germans had not been demographically shredded yet, that's why the Germans started rapidly rising the ranks of the Roman nobility and taking over key institutions.The scariest thing is, once a population has been eviscerated this way, it never recovers. All those people under Roman rule, are 2nd tier nations today. They never bounced back. It's a permanent effect. Today, we are seeing the cities in powerful countries, poach the intelligent people from poorer countries, "brain draining" them. Only 2 countries on earth haven't been tapped yet, India and China, that's why there's such a feeding frenzy for those immigrants. We're seeing true "rags to riches" stories as the children of peasants are found to have incredible talent. We used to have those stories in the West too, in the early days.
Lucky me
>>528520326you call something by a name and then you observe visual aesthetics, yes.you are the one who isnt reading;#1 you are conveniently inflating dna #2 you are ignoring how the expression of dna actually looks like.
>>528520410The pattern is this.>cities are formed>country BOOMS! like an exponential grown, suddenly massively powerful and successful>then the demographic shredding takes place as they indulge in excess and degeneracy>then the society starts to hollow out>the young generations are less talented than the old, and all you have are legends of the past when we were actually competent>the society crumblesit's the same story every time.Rome followed this pattern too.
Was it the races of the people coming in or was it that the culture that made them strong was forgotten about by the native race?It's always the latter, regardless of racial makeup. When the spirit of a people fades away, the nation and their civilization fades. Diversity weakens the native spirit and will over time, but it is the responsibility of the natives to stand firm and believe in what made them strong.
>>528520512>>then the demographic shredding takes place as they indulge in excess and degeneracythis is not what has happened at all.sumeria decayed as a lack of consequence analysis in ecologythey blame it on godstheyre generally deceitful people who lie and stealbecome persecuted all over the fucking middle eastcreate societal scale of spiritual rot by demonizing our unifying strengths, our way of life and living.being decadent and greedy is not a chaotic variable, ignoring social cohesion while sitting high above everyone else is.when you sit in a high-rise tower, looking down at commoners like they are filth or have no purpose other than consumingthat is christian rome, byzantium, trotskyism of russia and america as we see it today wher emost of them moved to.
>>528520174>source of measuring every single fucking human on earthNotice there is no Balkanshits LARPing as Romans on this list, Andrei?
the funny thing is that it was the goths etc. who raided and burned down many ancient greek temples. same with the roman empire when it collapsed from constant german invasion. were there blonds in those nations? sure. but these weren't nordic countries lol. they probably looked more like most italians do today. just your typical med people with mostly darker hair but light skin.
>>528520465You said ancient Greeks were wiped out which is scientifically proven wrong. The studies actually show the opposite, strong continuity.You says ancient Greeks were Nordic looking people in general which we have no reason and evidence to actually believe. This is just something you made up and trying to impose it as truth. We do not have a single reason to believe this.
>>528519976>I have to educated a grek*id on "his" own country's historyembarrassing desu.
The cope from Nordics because they never created or invented anything of value always gives me a healthy chuckle
>>528520791> You said ancient Greeks were wiped out which is scientifically pr-SNIPnon-argument, devoid of citation wet blanket anemic fat retard talk.> no reason and evidence to actually believe. Turks who is more greekliterally always look more nordic"no reason"sigh.. fucking sub 80 iq subhuman talk
>>528519976>a point disregarding history and peer reviewed DNA tests. You are like an albanianno, youre wrongbecuase you are ignoring the untold highest truth The highest truth of the fat retard who said the study of the study and history of the retard without studies and history."you are wrong"you ignored the studies and history ;)have no studiesgreek which were practically entirely wiped out, therefor minimal amount of history to actuall research.
>>528520950Greeks were not Nordic.The somewhat Nordic features of the Macedonians (fair skin, fair hair) is spoken about as if it proves they aren't REALLY Greek in ancient times.Macedonian monarchs were sometimes not allowed in the Olympics because they "weren't Greek."I think there is a lot of evidence Greeks were not Nordic...
>>528521066>Greeks were not Nordic.did not say that either, you fucking retard.youre not even reading anymore.
>>528520326>Modern Greeks in general are 3/4 MycenaeansYou are Anatolian peasants + Turk + Slav. The original Mutts, in fact.You see, when the BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED Dorian chads arrived, they forced you shits back to Anatolia, where you founded "Ionia".Then they created philosophy, architecture, and conquered the entire known world. Then you came back. Greece collapsed into infighting.Then the Romans - self described as being descendants of TROJANS (Aryans that Mycenean brownoids despised) came and conquered you with ease.>oh but it isn't true!How the fuck do you explain 8/10 of Rome's first emperors (during the Golden age) all having blonde and red hair? Just a fucking fluke?
>>528520880>According to Lazaridis etal.2017, both Minoans and Mycenaeans derive most of their ancestry—at least three‑quarters—from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean, along with additional contributions related to populations from the Caucasus and ancient Iran. The key difference is that the Mycenaeans carry an extra component related to populations from eastern Europe and Siberia, introduced via groups connected to the Eurasian steppe or Armenia. In quantitative models discussed by geneticists, this steppe‑related ancestry in Mycenaeans is estimated at roughly 10–20%, while the remainder of their ancestry is largely similar to that of the Minoans. Minoans themselves lack this northern input and show mainly Neolithic Anatolian and West Asian-related ancestry. This minor but significant northern component is what genetically distinguishes Mycenaeans from Minoans, even though the two populations share the vast majority of their DNA.Please ,don't speak. You don't know what you are talking about.
>>528520950>Turks looking more Greek thus more nordic My sides reached Geosynchronous orbit.
>>528520950You said Greeks were wiped out and you got proven wrong. Then you started coping.>>528521066>Macedonians not greek Hello Goran, how are you ?You will rape history for your national fantasies as well?Stop talking about things you don't know ,please.
>>528520672No dude, I'm saying people in the city, for cultural, economic, and sexual reasons, do not breed. So if you're bringing all your most talented people to the cities, you're setting up a very obvious outcome for yourself.
>>528520382>blame browns for destroying RomeThat's right. When browns succeeded in muddying the original Aryan Trojan genes with their brownshit ways, the Empire devolved into corruption and degeneracy.It's fate was sealed when the Punic (Carthaginian) faggot Septimius Severus took power. His son murdered his other son in front of their mother to become Emperor and then promptly declared all inhabits of the Empire as citizens. 20 years later the Crisis of the Third Century began and Rome collapsed. Many, MANY such cases.
>>528519740
>>528521188>>528521109you're getting BTFOthe archives will have people laughing at you
>>528521109>According to Lazaridis etal.2017, both Minoans and Mycenaeans derive most of their ancestry—at least three‑quarters—from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean, along with additional contributions related to populations from the Caucasus and ancient Iran. >The key difference is that the Mycenaeans carry an extra component related to populations from eastern Europe and Siberia, introduced via groups connected to the Eurasian steppe or Armeniado you even understand how white most of these areas once looked?the armenians and nearby areas even still have remnants of dances that look like the germanic druid/wolf cowl motifsagain, you talk big with dna but seem to have no idea how it looks once expressed; how it manifests in the physical world.
>>528519740Who exactly is the *you* here, dumb amerifaggot? Romans hunted your forest monkey german ancestors in Germania for sport. The wewuzery is extra hilarious considering how many snowniggers millions the Romans slaughtered in the span of the empire. Oh and they also killed all the Goths living in Rome as well,along with their families in 408. This is how much consideration Romans had for you germs.
>>528519740>mutt going we wuz an shietyou will never be roman
>>528521101>literal nazi propaganda cited as sourcesWe also have confirmation that Augustus was in fact brown haired now. It's a mistranslation.
>>528520771>they probably looked more like most italians do todayNope. Look at the frescoes in Pompeii. Overwhelmingly Nordic features.The one they always display prominently is a picture of a foreigner and his wife. Not even Romans. Kikes do it for propaganda purposes. They want to hide the muttening because it's what they're doing today.
>>528521393You are not the original greeks, albanians are whiter than you, gypsy boy
>>528521223white people breed based on stability, economy and risk factors because IQ = thinking 10+20 steps ahead.planning for the future rather than looking at descendants like a temporay moment that should disappear one day.this is blatant peasant mind at play.the peasant kicks out the 18 year old sonthe king builds an east wing or even a right wing and rise the heights of the ceiling to govern wealth/power in the family.
>>528521385Now that you have conceded that Greeks didn't get "wiped out" you moving the goal post. I will gladly accept your loss and continue.You know what is after the 75-80% Mycenaean DNA ? Slav. Not sub Saharan African or anything like that. The second biggest DNA make up of modern greeks is slav DNA that varies according to the region. How can anyone get darker with added slav DNA is something really fascinating ain't it?You are 20 years old , you don't know what you are talking about. Please stop
>>528520923>The cope from Nordics because they never created or invented anything of value always gives me a healthy chuckleNordics are a racial category from the 1800s for all white people. And as far as Scandinavians or whatever you think it means they invented more things than anyone else in human history outside of other white people.
>>528521523HAHAHAHA this is the fart righter we're dealing with!
This is the Greek far right, they are GONE
>>528521454I'm literally strawberry blonde and pale skinned, my hair looks exactly exactly like the fresco here. >>528521435You are an ugly mutt, a combination of all the trash of Europe living in squalid Tel Aviv. Show flag so I can laugh some more.
>>528521523>Now that you have conceded that-SNIP-pulling arguments out of your fat brown ass rather than refuting my fucking point.this is blatant fucking sub 80 iq subhuman discourseagain, you avoid and deflect rather than engaging discourse.you are literally too fucking dumb to communicate with white people.
>>528521066>t-the greeks werent n-nordics>it was a-actually the MACEDONIANS!So we get Alexander the Great, Aristotle. You get Diogenes.
>>528521421>It's a mistranslation.I'll take your word for it, memeflag.
>>528519740Maybe, but correlation does not necessarily imply causation.
Didn't know you can get eye hair and skin colour from a colourless statue.More baseless religious beliefs.
>>528521621>saar i am white i am blond and blue eyed 1% of greece but this country is HUWHITEyou're not included in the bestagon
>>528519799>Mycenaeans were a Mediterranean people with mostly with black hair but also had many exceptions of course with blonde people like Alexander the great,Alexander was Macedonian which were basically Ukrainian whites you VPN fucking retard who knows nothing of Greeks.
>>528521760basedGreks are trash, all the good ones are long dead
>>528521109I don't care about Minoans or Myceneans for the umpteenth time. I'm talking about DORIANS.The DORIANS who made Greece the Birthplace of Civilization. Not the brownoids that were there before Greece did anything of note, nor their brownoid descendants that continue to do nothing of note to this day.
>>528521066>>528521632Macedonians were not mentioned blonde in general. Alexander wasMacedonians had>greek names>greek religion, especially loved Hercules as Doric greeks >participated in the Olympics>claimed heritage from Argos (Peloponnese)>spoke a doric dialect as shown by the Pella curse tablet that dates to 400 BCLiterally stop talking. Don't you think you should actually read before making posts?
>>528519740It's not true. Egypt lasted 3000 years and it was a mix of several cultures and races. The roman empire lasted 500 years and it was never really gone since the "barbarians", which weren't brown, integrated into Roman culture and started a new one. The roman empire never truly ended in europe and the middle east.
>>528519740This planet has a virus, and it's Jews and shitskins. It must be defeated with extreme prejudice.
>>528521792>I don't care about Minoans or Myceneans for the umpteenth time. I'm talking about DORIANS.>*Sigh*Okay muttbro, what ever you want friend.
>>528519740>we created EuropeAnd when Europe was white, it collapsedwait a minute, its not supposed to go like that
>>528521692>According to Goldsworthy, descriptions of hair color in ancient Roman sources are difficult to decipher, and Suetonius's comment that Augustus's curly hair was inclined towards golden (subflavum) could mean either "slightly blond" or "simply mean brown rather than black" hair.They used different terms for the hair color of Celts/Germanics.
>>528521535No Nordics created very little of value. That's just the truth. You can cope or seethe all you want. Italians alone are worth more than every Nordic ever born. A tiny fraction of Switzerland has created and invented more of the modern world than the entire Nordic race. You can seethe you can cope you can shart all you want but truth doesn't care about your feelings. Central and southern Europe have and always will carry the burden of science, engineering and technology
>>528521959Which Italians?
>>528521819>Egypt lasted 3000 yearsNo it didn't. It changed cultures and territory over and over again. It was always getting conquered, not "diversified".And Rome didn't start importing African-Brown mixtures until they were already in a fallen state and lost the Republic for a literal cult of personality dictatorship.... It just so happened that the Empire would do good being run by corrupt white men and hiring soldiers for a long time because they were feeding off of a previous 800 years of Hellenistic culture and Celtic gold.
ITALO BALBO BTFO
>>528519740Ironically Rome collapsed when it was invaded by mass Germanic migration lol
>>528521959Italians were Nordic and became Nordic again during their Renaissance.DNA catacombs. We have the receipts
>>528519740WHO THE FUCK IS WE?AMERICA?
>>528521959the modern world is literally sourced from the nordics and the english, retard.
>>528521621>no argument>just blatant seethe
>>528522079Which Italians are you talking about?South Italy and Sicily had huge greek settlements. These were the intellectuals, not the northen Italians.There is a reason why the Roman Empire copied EVERYTHING from Greece.
>>528522028Rome did no collapse at all. In fact it thrived under Visigoth leadership until Genghis and Islamic hordes appeared and the Byzantines were working against them.What you're thinking of is a famous painting and low IQ internet opinions.
>>528521630You move the goal posts and get proven wrong. Keep coping
>>528519740Just don't think about who caused the brownings, that's antisemitic.
>>528521959>Nordics created very little of valuehe says sitting in a house built by nords, living in a nordic nation, typing on a nordic computer, posting on a nordic website, using the nordic internet.>what have the Romans done for us?
>>528522160> South Italy and Sicily> These were the intellectualsHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh looks it's another thread made by a blonde incel with no other redeeming qualities that takes pride into things that require no effort like race or nationality.
>>528519740Rome collapsed because faggots there become lazy shits who started using shitskins for everything and simped for their bitches giving them more and more rights, sounds familiar?
>>528522200Rome literally collapsed, the Goth fags rejected the inheritance of the Roman imperial throne, Rome collapsed lmao is that simple, what followed was another new thing
>>528522229>>528522160THIS NIGGA OOZING
>>528519740Then stop and start doing something about it m8 go talk to people who need to hear this, what a shit fucking post kill yourself faggot
>>528522160>Sicily had huge greek settlementsThey only reason we have a Sicily is because the Byzantine Emporer begged the Longbeards (Lombards) to come and kick out the Muslims.They have their Arian Christian churches still standing their today.Sicilians were Nordic (again a 19th racial category for white people, not Scandinavian territory) too.
>>528520326You are purposefully distorting the argument. The argument was never that Greeks were nordics, but that the ruling elite of ancient Greece was nordic. This being supported by research.
>>528522297wet blanket statement, anemic
>>528522294>Philosophers1.Pythagoras (c. 570–495 BCE) – Born in Samos, but established his school in Croton (Κρότων, Calabria). Known for mathematics, philosophy, and the Pythagorean theorem.2.Philolaus (c. 470–385 BCE) – Pythagorean philosopher, possibly from Croton. Developed ideas on cosmology and the “central fire.”3.Timaeus of Locri (5th–4th c. BCE) – Philosopher from Locri (Λοκροί, Calabria), influenced Platonic thought.4.Zaleucus (7th c. BCE) – Lawgiver of Locri, considered an early philosopher of law.5.Empedocles (c. 494–434 BCE) – From Acragas (Ἀκράγας, modern Agrigento, Sicily). Known for the theory of the four classical elements and cosmic forces.6.Gorgias of Lentini (c. 485–380 BCE) – From Lentini (Λέντινοι, Sicily), pre-Socratic sophist, rhetorician, and philosopher.7.Aenesidemus (1st c. BCE) – From Sicily, important in Skeptic philosophy (Pyrrhonism revival).>Mathematicians and Scientists1.Archimedes (c. 287–212 BCE) – From Syracuse (Συράκουσαι, Sicily), mathematician, inventor, and engineer.2.Philistus (c. 4th c. BCE) – Historian and mathematician from Syracuse.3.Leucippus (5th c. BCE, possibly) – Philosopher and precursor of atomism; some traditions associate him with Southern Italy, though his origin is debated.>Poets and Writers1.Stesichorus (c. 630–555 BCE) – From Himera (Σιμέρα, Sicily), lyric poet.2.Theocritus (c. 300 BCE) – From Sicily, considered the father of bucolic poetry (Idylls).3.Aeschylus (visited Sicily) – While born in Athens, he had strong connections with Sicilian courts.>HistoriansPhilistus of Syracuse – Historian of Sicilian affairs, contemporary of Dionysius I.The fact that you question this shows how little you knowI told you, you are 20 years old and dont know what you are talking about. Read more.
>>528522452That's just a gish gallop, tldr
>>528521819>The roman empire lasted 500 yearsImagine counting the endless changes of government and conquest in Egypt as being "3000 years" while ignoring that Rome was already the most glorious and storied civilization long before Augustus.Rome lasted from 800 BC to 1453. That's 2253 years. Or if you consider the ROMAN Catholic Church to be Rome, it's still dominating to this day.
>>528522140You fat ugly mutts have the nerve to larp as litteraly anything, I bet at some point you were proud of your 1% navajo ancestry. 50% pure european ancestry country with 200 year history, nigga we had a 1000 year old empire AFTER the western roman fell, you won't even last to 250.
>>528522316>>528522301>Rome existed after the collapse>Rome collapsed >Rome became Byzantine>Rome became the church>Rome is the RiechThe Roman collapse happened when they gave up Hellenism for Middle-Eastern communism called Christianity. It was only 80yrs after Constantine's first Council that Christian Goths took over.
>>528521188LMAO everyone knows the ancient hellenes didn't accept the macedonians.
>>528519740Holy nordic cope, you snow niggers were never able to create anything. Brown meds built the civilization you live in
>>528522521>>528522537You didn't have shit, armenian usurper of greco-roman glory, semitic shitstain
>>528522028>Rome collapsed when it was invaded by mass GermanicWrong. Rome got brown'd. Rome descended into degeneracy and retardation.After 5 gorillion brownoid civil wars. Germans basically waltzed in and crowned themselves kings.
>>528522100Nope. You are a useless eater but at least your girls are cute
>>528519799Mycenaeans were white
>>528522584hahahaha a brazillian joins the discussionxD
>>528522584there was no mutts 2k+ years ago, retard. Just like the mutts in huezil, they were spawn from abrahamism all around the med sea.Cope harder, abrahamic mutt.
>>528522452All Nordics >>528522368
>>528522563aahhh...please...read...more..what you are saying is not accepted by anyone relavant historian and none good university in the worldwhat you are referring to most likely is Demosthenes calling Philip (father of Alexander) a barbarian because...they were political rivals and at war. Demosthenes was literally a rheror. Calling others barbarian was literally a slur back then but you dont know because havent read anything. I know you are slav diaspora coping. Demosthenes himself had been acalled a barbarian as wellsee this retarded ape>>528521816
>>528522280Nope. My house was built by my family when we settled here from Rome a few thousand years ago (Italian). My computer was invented by a Swiss living in the us (central) this site is japanese. The only thing Nordics ever invented or created was licorice candy
>>528522654stfu faggot, you can't say anything about my favela niggers and mutts anymore, go back to your no-go zones.Yes, he's wrong, no, saying he's a brazilian retarded mutt when you are not a ethnostate anymore is not a argument.
>>528522703>see this retarded ape >>528521816Yeah we can see you alright
>>528519740My existence vexes you and it makes me diamondsYou literally make shit up just to be mad, it's glorious really
>>528522537>The Roman collapse happened when they gave up Hellenism for Middle-Eastern communism called Christianity.based
>>528519740Literal we wuzzing. And if you look at all the great white inventors/ innovators they're not even nordic. Most were brown haired and far from the ayran ideal. Let's face it, blondies are overrated. Plus they're the biggest cucks in the fucking world
>>528522715Swiss are Nords you imbecile. ALL Germanics are in fact Nordics.
>>528522654Hurry bjorn, i heard they found a new mud hutt archeological site, your people will finally have a shot at written records>>528522667Brown =/= mutts, i'm just stating the simple fact that cumskin nordniggers never produced anything noteworthy, being outpaced by brown people worshipping cats in a fucking desert, by at least 2000 years
>>528522890>Literal we wuzzingWhite people can't we wuz because Kings come from white people. And they invented damn near everything >>528521535Here is a list of their invention in the last 200 years.
>>528519740>>528519777>WEnordshits are pathetic.
>>528519740I love a good we wuzzery thread!
>>528522928All Celts and Hellenists are also Nordic >>528521535 it just means white people
>>528519740>we
>>528519740WE
>>528522928Nope no we are not. I am swiss not a Nordic snow monkey.
>>528523036>>528523102>>528523163White people can't we wuz because Kings come from white people. And they invented damn near everything >>528521535
>>528519740they don't even look alike you retard
>>528519835Surprised to see Ireland and Croatia on that list.
>>528523214So a proto-Scythian got captured in Asia and bought in Egypt? That's your argument?
>>528523292show flag
>>528523239>I WILL POST IT AGAIN AND NOT CARE ABOUT WHAT PEER REVIEWED DNA STUDIES ACTUALLY SAY ABOUT THE MINOANS,MYCENEANS AND MODERN GREEKS!stop
>>528519799It only takes a droplet of shitskin to get dark hair and eyes
>>528523029>White peopleI'm not talking about white people. I'm talking about the moron that made this thread who thinks every great invention came from blonde haired blue eyed people when so few things actually came from them. I have nothing against nordics, but retards that make up shit like this
>>528520512https://archive.org/details/the-fate-of-empires-and-search-for-survival-john-bagot-glubb
>>528523239>White people can't we wuz because Kings come from white people. And they invented damn near everythingKek. This is the equivalent to the niggers that say they invented everything because all races come out of Africa. Stop acting like a nigger
>>528520923>The cope from Nordics because they never created or invented anything of value always gives me a healthy chuckleThat's some crazy claim you just did there Abu
>>528523214cope harder, abrahamic nigger-mutt arab. Go fill a ancient hole with trash as you do or build slums around it.Ancient Egyptians were white. Only when the original Dynasties ended, it stop being.>implying mudslimes didn't invade the place 1000 years ago
>>528519777>>528519740this is true and it's the "myth" of atlantis
They make these thread and dominate with insults and wikipedia posts until you start dropping bombs. Thanks!
>>528523239This is you
>>528523226You are a Jew.
>>528519886>>528519976>>528519799
>>528519740>Jew trying to blame none whites as propagandistic discourse Yeah ... The browns ... Its not like someone brought them or financed the woke shit and the open borders ... I wOnDeR WhO iT wAs.
>>528523407>>528523440All white people are Nordics, that's what it means >>528521535 unless they got mixed with Negros. Brown people are just negro-nordics.
>>528523392>the peer-reviewed studies>not those peer-reviewed studies!
>>528519740Germanics we wuz worse than niggers. Germanics have been a disaster for the human race. fucking barbarians
>>528523669All white people aren't nordic. There's alpine, dinaric, meds, etc
>>528523453Even Genghis Khan was white.
>>528523392>PEER REVIEWED DNA STUDIESYou already got BTFO TWICE >>528522079 >>528522079 You always post wikipedia and then get BTFO by actual data.
>>528523444Cool dont care about your jewnovation index only reality where Nordics are irrelevant
>>528523503Nope. I'm Swiss genetically and culturally. You are a mutt
>>528523682>>528523822it's clear you are a troll or so dumb that discussion doesnt have any meaning what so everif you are truly interested in actually learning anything in life I would suggest to be able to think logically first. The things you have said in this thread are laughablethis is not how you "do your own research". this is just pathetic and disegards anything we know about history and sciencesyou can be happy with the colour of your skin and hair without being a literal ape. Blondes do look good in general mate. That doesnt mean you get to change history to fit your narritiveI wont bother anymore
>>528523790>All white people aren't nordic. There's alpine, dinaric, meds, etcmeds were nordic, and alpine/Dinaric are Eurasian Nordics mixed with Asiatics because of Scythians and their big cocks fucking asian girls. It's just a cope for slavs.
>>528524125>I wont bother anymoregood, lick your wounds faggot
>>528523001Black people are extremely Christian here lol, way more religious than white people. The reason they vote solidly Democrat is because their churches are bought off.Practicing agnosticism yet knowing old fables and mythology is more the default of white people imo
I'm posting this guy because he looks funny. Like his name should be Opie.
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>>528523822>Even Genghis Khan was whiteYeah I heard that one too. They used Scythian tactics which makes sense. Certainly Attila was.
>>528519740IF IT'S BROWN FLUSH IT DOWN
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>>528519740The Chinks actually figured this one out literal eons ago: there cannot be yin without yang.Why do you think they're white and black?
>>528519799>trusts jewish sciencesbut we don't, ok?
>>528524758>>528519799
>>528524125I found some more of your peer-reviewed studies faggot.Care to debunk them or just seethe?
No one read the Bhagavad Gita it's full of racial stuff with blonde and red haired gods talking mad shit about the "black skins".
Jesus Christ. Do you retards really spend this much time and effort obsessing about your hair or eye pigments ? Me and my wife are both clearly Italian/french phenotype and our kids are both blonde/blue. I've never cared no one cares. What form of autism is this shit?
Nordcucks destroyed Rome, you will never be roman nordcuck
>>528519976>You are so dumb. It's so funny.not really. if you could, you'd use picrel, wouldn't you ? We all know what it means.
The science is already settled:>ItalicsClosest to North Italians>Ancient GreeksClosest to South Italians and Aegean Islanders. >Ancient EgyptiansClosest to Arabs and Egyptian Copts.Anything else is no different from nigger tier we wuzing.
>>528525139The veddasThere is a reason why they paint the gods all bloated dead blue skinned centuries later.
>>528519740Bullshit he was mostly heavily Italian with Germanic blood and some Greco-Balkanic ascendancy.
>>528525261>ROMANS DURING THE PEAK
>>528525261>WEALTHIEST PART OF ROME DURING PEAK
>>528519740>weLmao fat burger thinks he’s on the team
>>528525261You already got BTFO in thread. learn to read.
>>528524969What is this mosaic called? Where is it? What is its dating?
>>528525305>AI SAYS SOlmao
>>528525245The average circumcised mutt hyper obsessed with how white their skin is usually looks like picrel
>>528525377found in greece
>>528520880>AI summaryShut the fuck up retard
>>528525438well, ancient hellenistic greece, modern day turkey pic rel diff
>>528519777You didn't create shit. We Italians will never be white. Stop claiming our civilization as yours faggots
>>528525561
>>528519740>Greek got brownRome conquered the losers.>Rome got brownRome was conquered by the GERMANS.
>>528519740I fucking LOVE we wuzzing threads. Also germanic people come from dacians.DACI > DUTCH > DEUTSCHFUCK YEAH
Trump is white and blonde so why can't he prosecute the epstein files pedophiles? why does he keep sending billions to israel ? why does he suddenly want to steal greenland and canada ? why is he turning his back on europe and instead siding with saudis and russia ?
americans posting this narrative is beyond retarded, you are the living breathing proof that decadence is always what comes first, then maybe as cherry on top you get demographically swamped by your own serf classsame is true in Europe, a modern Swede is basically indistinguishable from a random Gothic warlord if you put it in terms of ancestry, yet here we areand while it's true, and lots of "meds" are in denial about it, that there was a demographic turnover, it doesn't mean the earlier inhabitants were any "NVRDIC", for the most part Italy and Greece went from a more western mediterranean type(Spanish/Sardinians) to an eastern medierranean type(Cypriots), with northern-populations being the other ingredienteven if you want to invoke genetics, local selection is much more important
>>528525308>>528525326>>528525375>nordcucks figure out italics could be blonde hair and blue eyesLol nordcucks low iq
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>>528525882
>>528525724>>528525845Shitposting aside, let's assume the greek and roman civilizations were built by nordic people. Can someone explain why this type of civilizations haven't been replicated up north? Why was this specific only to the mediterrean? I might understand scandinavia because the climate was rough, but what about Brittania, what about France, what about the lands near Rhine, what about the lands near Ukraine where you have the most fertile soils on the world? Why we don't see a colloseum there?
>>528526201civilization imho is mental software first, it's an idea, those people were better off as semi-nomadic herders, and it's not all ups, it requires a large slave class to existCelts were arguably getting there though, but not surprisingly, they were also the ones more in contact with Greeks and Romans
>>528519782This was the last run.
>>528522490Sorry you're retarded
>>528526201>see a colloseum thereyou need to look better, clown
>>528519799Gypsy
>>528525876 >>528520326Italians were nordic
>>528526201>Can someone explain why this type of civilizations haven't been replicated up north?Because you'd freeze to death if you built marble villas in the frozen North, and wore togas, you'd have to haul the materials across thousands of miles of land on foot. You'd have to develop modern agricultural techniques and deforest millions of acres just to have inferior crop yields. And that's just in Germania, not Scandinavia. Amongst many other factors that only made advanced civ possible in modern times in that region, you nigger.
>>528526538>those people were better off as semi-nomadic herdersCasually talking down on your betters.Go make me some pasta luigi.
>>those people were better off as semi-nomadic herders>Casually talking down on your betters.>Go make me some pasta luigi.
>>528519740>use Medd alphabet>use Medd Calendar>use med Law CodeBut Nordic is superior race right bros???
>>528519740Rome collapsed for 3 reasons:>Edict of Caracalla>Edict of Milan>Edict of Thessalonica
>>528519777WE WUZ JEETS AND PERUVIANS N SHIEEET, WE WUZ BLUE EYED HYPERBOREAN ALIENS N SHIIEEET, WE SEEDED THE URF N SHIIEEET WITH OUT WEAK GENES THAT GET SHITTED BY JEETS AND NIGGERS IN A SINGLE GENERATION, BUT WE WUZ WE RAJPUTS PERUVIAN SUMMERIAN KANGS
>>528529328ngl that webm made me lolI'll allow you into the ethnostate as a jester, pastanigger
>>528529474>Medd alphabetEnglish is literally Germanic.>Medd Calendarthat honors the Chad Aryans Augustus and Caesar>med Law CodeRoman law code, therefore Aryan
>>528528907>>528528907>inferior crop yields.Modern day ukraine has literally the most fertile lands in the world. As a result, they had one of the first agricultural cultures , Cucuteni-tryptila. By your logic there's literally no excuse for the populations that followed and settled there (be it germanics, slavs , sarmatians) not to built mega cities.
>we wuz asianswe wuz chinese>we wuz native americans>we wuz north africans>we wuz mongolians>we wuz buddha>we wuz romans>we wuz roman gods>we wuz greek>we wuz greek gods>we wuz indianstoo bad you are not the master race because jews run the world and they are your masters and you are the humble christcuck servants
>>528519740Thats great now tell me, WHY did they turn brown?>JUDEN
>>528528907>you'd have to haul the materials across thousands of miles of land on foot.Holy cope. Are you saying that they haven't discovered the wheel yet, or domesticated horses? Of course they had both, so again no excuses. Now you're going to tell me that central / north western europe where the celts / germanics and slavs lived didn't have stone quarries, right?If the so called nordic elites managed to build top tier civs with the med brownoids, what stopped you doing the same when the nordic civs were populated exclusively by nordics? Werz muh Atluhnteez at? Shieeeeet
>>528519740>Aryan IndiaThis is what you a call a small migration of Aryans into the northern Indian subcontinent? Ffs
>>528519740>WE WUZ ROMANS AND GREEKSlmao amerimuttyou don't even have a foreskin
>>528523001Wrong, all (((browns))) in the world are mutts.There's only 4 species of humanoid, Whites, Asians, Niggers and Abos. Everything in between is muttland, most happen in the last 2k years as I already explain.You're just a mutt-golem coping as parcel.All ancient civilization that had any relevance was white, the cope is free.
>>528529611this, but unironically.I didnt quite get the line about jeet shit genes...
>>528519799Minoans aren't Mycenaean, read your own post
>>528529611Did these statues appear out of nowhere? Why do the mummies have blonde hair?Make it make sense.
>>528530744>ukraineWe're talking about Germany and Scandinavia. Not the grazing land for Huns, faggot. And FYI Crimea was a Roman colony.What do you get off trying to prove that Nords in Germany were somehow inferior to Nords in Italy because they didn't develop at the same time anyways?
>>528531148>marble =/= stoneAugustus literally writes in his diary what a massive undertaking it was to import Marble from Egypt to Rome. That's across the Mediterranean with the help of ships. Transported on foot 15 miles from Rome.>What (You)r ape ass if asking is...For Nordic tribes to import marble over 1800 miles in a straight line mostly over land to create buildings that bore absolutely zero relevance to sparse populations of tribes in a completely forested region.I don't think you comprehend the sheer stupidity of your questions.
>>528532580>Crimea was a Roman colonyCriimea and the Danub was the river gateway to the Baltics. It has always been Nordic
Nerdisissies are retarded.
>>528530040The calendar was created by Caesar retard
>>528531047The Balkans were already lightish-brown prior to the Ottoman occupation. That was just the cherry on top. Most of the ancient Balkan population died during the Justinan plague, 6th century AD. Afterwards, the Byzantine government began giving out 'foederati' status to various slavic and avar tribes for economic purpose, settling some of them as far south as the Peloponnese peninsula. Later in the Middle Ages, turkic tribes like the Bulgars, Cumans, Tatars and others also settled. To think that the average Balkanite circa 1400 AD was some Norwegian guy, who got buttfucked for 500 years by the Ottomans is retarded. When turks tooked christian concubines they mostly settled back in Anatolia. Their element in the modern Balkan genome is minimal.
>>528534541>that honors the Chad Aryans Augustus and Caesarapparently reading is a Nordid invention
You are jewish btw
>>528534827The calendar wasnt created to honor caesar. Caesar bestowed the calendar onto the people of Rome so the Pontifex Maximus wouldnt have to keep recalibrating the Lunar calendar. Claiming the calendar merely honor Caesar undercuts his historical contribution
>>528534942holy fucking shit are you retarded?That is completely and utterly irrelevant
>>528519740Many such cases, yes
>>528519740when you mix niggers, it destroys the bloodlineancient indians + niggers = current indiansdo you notice the pattern with all those mass imported indians?imagine mixing current indians that's already a massive downgrade
>>528519740True
>>528532913They could've imported the marble from Egypt using the romans as middlemen. Can't let a few hundreds of miles more stand in the way of greatness. I'm sure the nordic elites of the greeks and romans could've arranged something for their brethren up north, a marshall plan of sorts.Also the nordics had atlantean tech so I'm sure that would not have been a big problem for them. They could've flown the marble to Germania using zero point gravity, my dear walmart dwelling centurion DIABETES MELLITUS
>>5285353702000 years later and "Romania" has achieved nothing while those Nords enjoy the highest QoL and invented everything you take for granted.
>>528535622We have a few contributions given our location and how small of a nation we arehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romanian_inventors_and_discoverers
Rome was originally Brown but their leadership ‘bleached’ themselves fucking white women and became more cuck in the process, to the point they began to worship Semitic deities
>>528535622Romania has lots of inventions and achievements though
>>528536254>mutt romeit was only mutted after becoming christcuck, before that even north of africa was white.shitskin importation is a kike thing after all.Also this is obvious a canvas painting, picrel.Mutt cope of having mutt civilization ancestor is kind of hilarious, mutts are the outcome of a collpasing society, mostly white with a few asian exceptions.A true bloodline is the whole genepool, meaning people of the same species reproducing, not nigger + abos = mutts + mutts = mutt+.
>>528520672Shut up, you fucking Swede.
>>528536254>Rome was originally BrownComplete opposite and proven in thread over and over. Bleaching doesnt exist
>>528519740The difference between northern and southern Euros is just the ratio of Steppe-Farmer admixture. In the north, there was more of them, and they had more women (percentage-wise), so they spread their genetics more effectively than the Steppe migrants in southern Europe. Enough with this infighting spam shit.
>>528524125Brother, you come across as extremely assblasted ITT and upset about the idea that Meds have been exposed to a greater degree of genetic corruption from sub-equatorials (due to simple proximity) in the 4000 years intervening between the Golden Age and modernity. It is simply the truth. You may or may not be a particularly white Greek person, but to claim that all modern Greeks are 100% Golden Age white people is just complete insanity that is easily controverted by the easy use of one's own eyes.
>>528525245>why can't you just be an accidentally based white retard who thankfully miraculously reproduces white posterity like meBiology underpins every aspect of human civilization. Eye, skin and hair color are indices and indexes of constellations of other traits, most importantly neurological>psychological traits which are the prerequisites for maintenance of advanced civilization and the continuing viability of everything that is worth preserving.
>>528519740>Augustus>blondeAccording to which sources, the ones which e.g. wilfully mistranslate Suetonius' description of Augustus' "subflavum" (i.e. "less than blonde") hair as just "flavum" ("blonde") , while ignoring that Suetonius in the following line also literally said Augustus was a tanned manlet with an hooked nose and an unibrow like an Italian?>"He had clear, bright eyes. His teeth were wide apart, small, and ill-kept; his hair was slightly curly and inclined to golden; his eyebrows met. His ears were of moderate size, and his nose projected a little at the top and then bent ever so slightly inward. His complexion was between dark and fair. He was short of stature."
yeah well as you admit, white people have been LOSING for fucking THOUSANDS OF YEARSlost egypt, greece, rome, and now the last few places remaining
>>528539958https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.03.18.585512v1.full>The other 4 significant variants in both tests are in the SLC45A2 and HERC2 loci and are involved in pigmentation, with their allele frequency changes showing a temporal and geographic pattern in line with the prediction of darker eye, hair and skin colors (Additional file 2: Table S15, S16 and S17). Interestingly, the Picenes have a greater proportion of individuals with blue eyes (30.2%) and blond hair color (20.9%) than other Italic populations. In the Etruscans and Italy_IA_Romans these lighter phenotypes are much less common (blue eyes: 2.6% in the Etruscans, 10.0% in the Italy_IA_Romans; blonde or dark blond hair: 5.3% in the Etruscans, 10.0% in the Italy_IA_Romans), making these populations more similar to previous individuals from the Italian peninsula>As regards to the data on the pigmentation of eyes, hair, and skin, the following results were obtained from the study on ancient DNA of 11 individuals of the Iron Age/Republican period, coming from Latium and Abruzzo, and 27 individuals of Medieval/Early Modern period, coming from Latium>In the Iron Age/Republic period, the eye colour is blue in 27% of those examined and dark in the remaining 73%. Hair color is 9% blond, or dark blond, and 91% dark brown or black. The skin colour is intermediate for 82%, intermediate or dark for 9%, and dark or very dark for the remaining 9%>By contrast, the following results were obtained for the Medieval/Early Modern period: the eye color is blue in 26% of those examined and dark in the remaining 74%. Hair color is 22% blond or dark blond, 11% red, and 67% dark brown or black. The skin color is pale for 15%, intermediate for 68%, intermediate or dark for 10%, and dark or very dark for the remaining 7%
>>528525561American Italians are just jews who're worse at organized crime.
>>528529611I don't care if it's not true. I choose to believe it because it powers me.
>>528539395You seem gay and retarded.
>>528521621>I'm literally strawberry blonde and pale skinned, my hair looks exactly exactly like the fresco here.This is what Greeks think they look like. Sadly these days are long gone, and all that is left is the occasional relic to a great European based past. You are arrogant enough to say you look white, just like the murals on supermarket walls, but you know, in your heart its just not true for the average thin faced, black eyed Greek.There is a lesson here Spiros. Rather than kicking up a fuss, make sure other countries dont throw their white away too. You have nothing left to save.
>>528540301Etruscans were more blond than Latins and yet most of their blond representations were female.>The facial features (the profile, almond-shaped eyes, large nose) in the frescoes and sculptures, and the depiction of reddish-brown men and light-skinned women, influenced by archaic Greek art, followed the artistic traditions from the Eastern Mediterranean, that had spread even among the Greeks themselves, and to a lesser extent also to other several civilizations in the central and western Mediterranean up to the Iberian Peninsula>In 2024, 6 individuals of Etruscan remains from Tarquinia, Lazio, dated the 9th-7th Century BC, were studied and confirmed the previous finds, Etruscans were an indigenous population. The admixture model showed that they were 84-92% Italy Bell Beaker and 8-26% additional Yamnaya Samara (Steppe-related) ancestry, but with one individual being more similar to Iron Age populations from Scandinavia, and north-west Europe. The two male individuals studied for Y-Chromosome belonged to the J2b/J-M12 lineage, and the five studied mitochondrial haplogroups were typical of post-Neolithic Europe. Phenotypic traits showed blue-eyes, light/dark brown hair, and pale to intermediate skin tones
>>528540487You are the most based person a live
>>528540817This is how the Romans described them:>Etruscan children live the way their parents live, often attending drinking parties and having sexual relations with all the women. It is no disgrace for them to do anything in the open, or to be seen having it done to them, for they consider it a native custom.>When they are having sexual relations either with courtesans or within their family, they do as follows: after they have stopped drinking and are about to go to bed, while the lamps are still lit, servants bring in courtesans, or slave girls, or sometimes even their wives. And when they have enjoyed these they bring in little girls, and make love to them.>They are keen on making love to women, but they particularly enjoy little girls and teenagers. The teenagers in Etruria are very good-looking, because they live in luxury and keep their bodies smooth. In fact all the barbarians in the West use pitch to pull out and shave off the hair on their bodies.Theopompus of Chios, 4th cent. BCE Histories Book 43
>>528541121>Theopompus of Chios, 4th cent. BCE Histories Book 43I could also quote Trumpus of Muttland and come up with equal drivel. The truth is that the Estruscans founded Rome and were invaded by the Indo-European Latini tribe and completely absorbed into the Roman Empire by 100BC.And no, not all Etruscan women were portrayed as having blond hair as you insuinate. However, you are correct about the differences between colors men and women were painted.
>>528542341>I could also quote Trumpus of Muttland and come up with equal drivelDo you want physical proof that they were degens to the Romans?Authors such as Macrobius (Saturnalia) and Livy report that, in very ancient times, the cult of Saturn included human sacrifices, especially of prisoners of war. According to these accounts, the practice was inherited from the Etruscans or archaic Italic peoples. Human sacrifice symbolized "feeding" the deity so that it would not consume the crops or destroy the agricultural cycle. In times of crisis (wars, plagues, or poor harvests), there were rumors that Rome once again resorted to this type of offering. Livy mentions that in 216 BC, during the Second Punic War, Rome buried alive a Greek couple and a Gaulish couple in the Forum Boarium, in an underground ritual to Saturn and other chthonic gods, asking for protection against Hannibal.>Interesting ancient artifacts>What: Tomb of the Bulls, copulation scenes>When: 540 B.C.>Where: Tarquinia>Significance: 2 scenes each accompanied by a bull: heterosexual threesome, bull in repose, with his back to the three people. Homosexual couple (passive man has blond hair but is lighter in color), sexually aroused bull attacks this couple>Life-affirming images, sex, defecation, cornuto sign were apotropaic images for Etruscans i.e. warded off evil, maybe death. Why the different behavior of the bull with respect to heterosexual and homosexual activity? we do not know
>>528519740>WE WUZING IN THE BIG 2026You were born thousand of years too late retard, you didn't do shit.
>>528542838>The truth is that the Estruscans founded RomeSettlements have existed in Rome since the Neolithic period.>There is archaeological evidence of human occupation of the area of modern Rome from at least 5,000 years ago, but the dense layer of much younger debris obscures any Palaeolithic and Neolithic sites. Traces of occupation have been found in the general region – including Lavinium and the coast near Ardea – going back to the 15th century BC. The area was home to the Apennine and Proto-Villanovan cultures before the advent of the more regional Latial culture>and were invaded by the Indo-European Latini tribeThe Etruscans had Steppe DNA just like the Latins, they just didn't speak an IE language. How could the Latins invade the Etruscans if they also originated within Italy along them, you retarded lead?>The study concluded that Etruscans (900–600 BC) and the Latins (900–500 BC) from Latium vetus were genetically similar, genetic differences between the examined Etruscans and Latins were found to be insignificant. The Etruscan individuals and contemporary Latins were distinguished from preceding populations of Italy by the presence of ca. 30-40% steppe ancestry>Their DNA was a mixture of two-thirds Copper Age ancestry (EEF + WHG; Etruscans ~66–72%, Latins ~62–75%) and one-third Steppe-related ancestry (Etruscans ~27–33%, Latins ~24–37%) with the EEF component mainly deriving from Neolithic-era migrants to Europe from Anatolia and the WHG being local Western European hunter-gatherers, with both components, along with that from the steppe, being found in virtually all European populations)>not all Etruscan women were portrayed as having blond hair as you insuinateProjection. I said that they represented blondness more in women than in men, not that all Etruscan women were blond. My own post >>528540301 points only 5.3% of the Etruscan samples were blond.
>>528519740>>we created Rome>And when Rome got brown, it collapsed.>>we created Greece>And when Greece got brown, it collapsed.You know, I hate myself and humanity too, but at least im not saying shit like this and outing myself as not understanding basic history
>>528519740>we>got brown>And I'm tired of pretendingMeanwhile in reality White Supremacists don't treat anyone that isn't German as White because If They did so, half of Latin American would be "White".Meanwhile in reality The Romans and Greeks saw themselves as distict enough from the Germans whose white skin tone was used for jokes.You fucks use "White" conveninent. You are not better than the Woke Faggots You hate.God is onto you.
>>528525845There wasnt a demographic turnover that destroyed the roman empire. Thats retarded shit believed here bc people here have one guiding light. Racism. Rome began to fall during the crisis of the third century because Marcus Aurelius was facing an impossible scenario. The legions were all made up of frontier armies, who'd already been prepared to accept Commodus as the next emperor, bc Marcus was the first emperor to have a son who could inherit the position. If he chose someone else, all frontier rulers then had counter claims. If he didnt, then we would get what we got. Commodus, the dipshit, and the fragmentation wars of the third century. Even then, the Empire survived another 200 years. Diocletian even ended these wars for a while. The Empire fell because powers ability to remain centralized in Rome, dissipated as it had to be distributed over time. By the time the vandals sacked the city, the city's ability to quickly draft legions had fallen apart. The "roman" ethnic demographic group existed throughout this entire period. And there was no ethnic uprising against an ethnic identity of Rome, that entire time.
>>528546138sorry but you are entirely clueless about what you are babbling about and the last 15 years of popgen
>>528546209What exactly do you think this proves. How does it respond to what i wrote
>>528546331>What exactly do you think this provesmy original point
>>528546438Okay. And you believe this is why Rome fell? Because I already said that the Empire was heavily mixed throughout its peak
>>528546592partly, the people who actually had created it starting from a little city on a hill had become swamped by subjects, the "empire" itself was mostly stagnant and subsisting on their conquests, the empire started to go to shit almost immediately as soon as rule finally fell out of Italic patrician/knightly families
>>528546848Hadrian was Hispanic. Nerva was a Greek. This was the Pax Romana. 200 years of prosperity and peace is a strange way to characterize "immediately going to shit." When Rome actually began to decline, it was ruled by Marcus Aurelius, then his idiot son Commodus, both of whom were Italics with deep roots.
>>528520410Then our future is idocracy. In fact, we're already there."Brawndo's got what plants crave! Equality!" Anyone who says different is persecuted.
>>528546438So does that mean Italy mutted itself with Arabs and then Northern Europeans started displacing the mutts?
>>528547103>Hadrian was Hispanicnope, his family still traced his origins to patrician settlers in Roman hispania>Nerva was a Greeknopepax Romana was built upon centuries of Republican conquests, expansion, triumphs and stabilization, it's like saying pax Americana is built upon mexican backs and niggers working and Obama ruling or that the British empire at its peak was at its peak because it ruled over millions of indians and other foreigners
>>528547218>ArabsAnatolians>Northern Europeans started displacing the mutts?only in part
>>528547274>nopeExcellent rebuttal. Anyway, nerva was an Italiot, a Greek colonist in Italy, genetically. Hadrian had italic blood; and Hispanic blood. So did Trajan. So shouldn't they have been half-deficient as emperors? Thats how it works right. Why did decline initiate under Marcus through Commodus, when both were about as italic aristocratic as it gets?Pax Americana was burnt up by moves taken with white presidents at the helm over decades
>>528519740I agree
>>528540817Did you consider maybe the representations were made by seething med men who wanted to bang the blond women and didn't feature the men. i.e. the same behaviour all brownoids engage in. Get the fuck out of my aryan civilization you monkey.
>>528524125>I won't bother anymorelulz see you next time, non
>>528547315What's your issue with Anatolia? Most Greek thought, science, philosophy came from Hellenistic Anatolia. Equating Greeks with Mycenaeans is a nordicist sleight of hand that you have fallen for. Historiographically, the Mycenaeans weren't even considered to be Greek, but pre Greek. Until Linear B was deciphered and it was realized they spoke a more archaic form of Greek.>>528547831Finns are 10% East Eurasian, your civilization is Siberian
>>528547939>What's your issue with Anatolia?my problem is posting on /pol/, ideologized kids who cannot maintain a discussion on topic and constantly try to insert their ideological battles upon raw data, nobody mentioned issues, but here you aredon't bother replying to me because I'm out
>>528548006I don't take issue with the raw data. Clearly Italy had large gene flows from Hellenistic Anatolia. I just don't see this as particularly problematic, and much of what we think of as Greek in fact comes from there. You cannot divorce Anatolia from Greece in this way.
>>528548006>ideologized kids whoLmao. Hahaha>as soon as rulership fell out of italic hands things declined>ideologized kidsHahaha
>>528524544What is the point, if everything that was once beautiful is lost, and almost all of it is out of the reach of even memory?
>>528520410>>528520512China was an urbanized pre-modern imperial state for much longer than Rome even existed, how did Rome get IQ shredded but China didn't?
Rome was brown thoughanglos love the WE WUZ
>>528548149If you want a real answer, it comes down to rice. Rice necessitates bureaucratic, stable organization over long periods of time bc of how its grown and harvested. It also incentivizes stability over conquest cycles, bc it is a fragile system of agriculture. All of those things contribute to less wild swings in brain drain
You faggots are no better than the WE WUZ KANGS niggas. Pathetic really.
>>528546209Also Lazaridis is wrong. The C6 cluster of Imperial Romans was a mixture of Italic and Anatolian, about half and half. He also says this hasn't been studied in great detail, which is a shame given how much discussion there has been about it online. You can run admix tools yourself to confirm it.https://x.com/iosif_lazaridis/status/2012670831244038433
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>>528548238the funny thing is all eyes are brown on the inside regardless of iris color.blue eyes have no actual blue pigment in them either. they only reflect blue light out due to the lack of melanin in the iris. (it's the same effect as why the sky appears blue)blue eyed fags are lied to their entire lives and don't even know this
>>528548124yeah he has very clear ideological biases but accuses others of the same thing
>>528547831>Did you consider maybe the representations were made by seething med men who wanted to bang the blond womenBlonde hair became popular through sexual selection, lol.>Indigenous Europeans had brown hair and brown eyes>Blue eyes is a genetic mutation originating in the Black Sea>Blonde hair is a genetic mutation originating in the North Eurasian>women are twice as likely to be naturally blonde compared to men according to a sample size of 300,000>in Europeans and most Eurasians, blondism is significantly more prevalent among women>GWAS revealed that there is at least 1 major locus for blonde hair on the X-chromosome, several minor and lesser studied loci on the X chromosome, but zero loci on the Y-chromosome>researchers concluded that blonde hair has been inherited through women for thousands of years>”coincidentally” the earliest mutation for blonde hair was found in a woman>also coincidentally, virtually no male proto indo europeans have blonde hair or any light features equal to modern nordic males
>>528519740>posts a guy that ruled Rome 750 years after it was founded>that randomly inherited power>that had Agrippa fight all his battles for him>that destroyed any semblance of citizens holding power and made it a corrupt monarchy instead
>>528549463Octavian saved Rome and is one of the greatest statesmen in western history, if not the greatest
>>528549274Youre a favella monkey oooo aaaa aaa give me banana ooooo
>>528549834So, you like that the Republic died? And it became a Christian monarchy? What's even special about Rome then? Fuck you, Cincinnatus and the Horatius brothers are our heroes, not gay, scheming Augustus.
>>528540431At the very least my ancestors weren't literal Viking rapist savages
>>528549463The start of the downfall of Rome was around 100BCE. Two things happened within a few years of each other: Sulla's constitutional reforms and the Marian reforms of the military. All the societal degradation was a symptom. Augustus tried to stop it (he was very culturally and societally conservative), but only delayed the inevitable.The Middle Republic era is the best of ancient Roman society.>>528549858I accept your defeat.>Using the HIrisPlex webtool with the HPCA, the hair colour of 59% of the individuals (n=321) were predicted as blond-haired, 32% as brown-haired (n=175), 5% as red-haired (n=26) and 3% as black-haired (n=18) (Fig. 5)>Schweder (1994) found that women tended to change their hair color and hair form to a type that was less common in the general population. Riedl (1990) found that men tended to prefer female faces that diverge from the norm. Finally, Ellis (1928, pp. 182–183) noted less preference for blonde women in England than in France, which he ascribed to the higher prevalence of blondness among the English>Another more controversial theory has it that blonde hair began to develop in Scandinavia as a result of sexual selection. At the time of the last Ice Age, around 11,000 years ago, there was a significant drop in the number of males in Scandinavia>The perilous conditions faced by hunters attempting to capitalise on roaming herds of mammoth, reindeer and bison meant that women were often without a partner – a situation that not only prevented the production of offspring, but often led to their starvation and death. The theory has it that women began to develop lighter hair as a means of distinguishing themselves from their rivals, leading to their selection in what was a very competitive market. If the theory is to be believed, it stands that blonde hair developed because it was more attractive to men at the time
>>528550459Literally no one cares what your brownoid pseudoscientific copes are about light hair colour my friendo. You seem mentally ill. Did a nord impregnate your gf (fellow baboon) or why so sour? Have a banana
>>528550915Kys.
>>528550979Wrong pic.