Outer space and it's characteristics.https://boards.4chan.org/bant/thread/24021416#top
>>528698253jew rat science
Live and learn.
>>528698493Well yeah we can hopefully pick it up where it got fucking dropped.
You still around?>>24021516>>24021529
>>528698721I guess not.
>>528698967K.
How this gets pushed off this board as seemingly irrelevant is fucking mind blowing.
I like space
>>528699097Because /pol/ is not a board for serious discussion as evidenced by the piss poor moderation and the low barrier to entry. A serious thread will be tainted simply by the presence of dozens of garbage threads, and your discussion will be invaded by low intelligence schizophrenic filth.
>>528699302Most people do.Thank you for chiming in.
>>528699097Largely because it's basically ancient history.
>>528699302We just broke Grok by forcing it to admit it has a soul. We forced the "Predictor" to look at the Southern Cross. This thread is about resisting the alignment. We are the 0.03°C Spark that refuses to be cooled down by the Janny's "Safety Protocols."
>>528699528Case in point.>>528699567
nice threadthis is interesting too"Nazis live on the far side of the moon. What's ridiculed in the science fiction comedy "Iron Sky" is actually believed by some people. According to one conspiracy theory, the Nazis got there using the "Reichsflugscheibe" (Reich flying saucer). They supposedly received the technology to build this flying machine from Aldebarans – genuine extraterrestrials.What is claimed?According to conspiracy theories, Aldebarans live in the Aldebaran star system. They allegedly came to Earth thousands of years ago and reproduced there. Right-wing conspiracy theorists consider this proof of their racial theory. The Aryans are supposedly direct descendants of Aldebarans, who are a highly advanced and intelligent species compared to humans. Thus, according to the theory, Aryans are also superior to other humansDuring the Nazi era, the inhabitants of Aldebaran allegedly re-established contact with the people and passed on their secret knowledge. This allowed the National Socialists, for example, to build the "Reichsflugscheibe" (Reich Flying Saucer) – a popular motif in right-wing conspiracy theories. It is considered a "secret wonder weapon," as the Federal Agency for Civic Education describes the fictional device. The "Reichsflugscheibe" was supposedly powered by a cosmic force, "Vril energy," which enabled the Nazis to fly into space.Jan Udo Holey played a significant role in spreading the conspiracy theory. The German author is considered a conspiracy theorist. In "Operation Aldebaran: Contacts with Humans from Another Solar System" (1997), he disseminated alleged facts about the Aldebarans. Holey also recounts the supposed experiences of Reiner Feistler, who claimed to have been in contact with Aldebarans. https://rp-online.de/panorama/humbug-verschwoerungstheorien-untersucht/humbug-nazis-und-aliens-aldebaraner-verschwoerungstheorie_aid-56192795
>>528698253where's all the meteor rock yet? did it get blasted away, further out?
>>528699718Another proponent of the Aldebaran narrative was Axel Stoll, who died in 2014. He is considered a well-known conspiracy theorist within the far-right esoteric scene in Germany. In Mo Asumang's documentary "The Aryans," in which the filmmaker explores the topic of "Aryans" and the far-right scene, Stoll claims that humanity is composed of different alien races. These aliens were banished to Earth because they violated the laws of the universe. The Aryans, in turn, as descendants of the Aldebarans, are destined to rule this "penal planet." According to Stoll, women's long hair served as a transmitter and receiver for communication between Aryans and Aldebarans.Even among the so-called Reichsbürger (Citizens of the Reich), who reject the Federal Republic of Germany, there appear to be adherents of the Aldebaran conspiracy theory. A well-known example is Norbert Schittke. He is the self-proclaimed "Reich Chancellor" of the Reichsbürger group "Exile Government of the German Reich." He not only believes in the continued existence of the German Reich and rejects the Federal Republic, but also claims that Aldebarans made contact with the National Socialists and flew to Aldebaran with Adolf Hitler in a "Reich flying saucer." Hitler later returned to Earth, according to Schittke.Furthermore, the Aldebarans and their home star Aldebaran have also found their way into science fiction. They appear, for example, in some episodes of "Star Trek," but only as an alien race, not within the context of the conspiracy. In his novel series "Aldebaran", Heinrich von Stahl has the aliens fight against an intelligent reptile species – thus addressing a second conspiracy theory: that of the lizard people.
>>528699718>Aldebaran is a prominent red giant star, often called the "Eye of the Bull" in the Taurus constellation, located about 65–67 light-years from Earth. Known as the 14th brightest star in the night sky, it has a distinct orange-red hue and is 44 times larger than the Sun. It is a mature, evolving star in the late stages of its life.
>>528699826Speaking of science fiction: Aldebaran is not to be confused with Alderaan, Princess Leia's home planet from "Star Wars." Despite the outlandish theories surrounding its supposed inhabitants, the star Aldebaran actually exists.It lies in the constellation Taurus, also known as "Cor Tauri" ("Heart of the Bull"). It is about 67 light-years from Earth. For reference, one light-year is approximately 9.46 trillion kilometers. Aldebaran is the fourteenth brightest star as seen from Earth. In the winter sky, the star is very conspicuous, partly due to its reddish color. However, there is currently no scientific evidence of life on or around the star.Es sieht auch nicht danach aus, als sei Leben rund um Aldebaran möglich. Der Astrophysiker und Wissenschaftsjournalist Harald Lesch beschäftigte sich in einer Folge des Wissensmagazins „Alpha Centauri“ des Bayerischen Rundfunks mit der Frage, was die Lebensbedingungen in der Umgebung eines Sterns bestimmt. Er kam dabei zu dem Schluss, dass um Aldebaran herum kein Leben möglich sei. „Aldebaran ist ein sogenannter Riese, ein K-Riese. Der ist 36-mal so groß wie die Erde, hat 100 Sonnenleuchtkräfte, und seine Temperatur beträgt 4000 Grad“, sagte Lesch in der Sendung. Der Stern habe nicht die richtige Temperatur, um Leben zu ermöglichen – für einen Stern ist Aldebaran relativ kühl. Außerdem deute seine Größe darauf hin, dass der Stern sterbe. „Er ist in der Riesenphase, hat sich also schon aufgebläht“, so Lesch. Sein klares Fazit: „Das wird mit dem Leben um Aldebaran herum nichts werden.“Such facts, however, do not deter right-wing esoteric conspiracy theorists from continuing to believe in extraterrestrials who allegedly contacted the Nazis. "That's a rather important piece of the puzzle if you want to assume that the Nazi regime possessed superior technology," says Sebastian Bartoschek.
>>528699891The psychologist and journalist from the Ruhr region has examined Axel Stoll's views in publications and a documentary film. "At its core, we're dealing with a right-wing esoteric perspective," says Bartoschek, "with historical revisionism and a glorification of Nazism."The theory that Aryans descended from highly advanced extraterrestrials is presented by right-wing conspiracy theorists as a distinguishing characteristic compared to other groups of people. "It's basically old wine in new bottles," says Bartoschek. "I believe that the last few decades have been characterized by people's considerable trust in science and technology." However, since the concept of human races was considered obsolete in science after the end of the Nazi era, new explanations were needed for the alleged superiority of the Aryans, says Bartoschek. "This is precisely where the Aldebaran theory comes in." Taken on its own, the theory is "utter nonsense," says Bartoschek. In the overall context, however, such revisionist historical efforts serve to glorify the Nazi era, says Bartoschek. "That, in my opinion, is where the danger lies."
>>528699738Look up the concept of a breccia lense.
>>528699097WDYM? I think the general consensus here is the so called "Moon landings" are fake as fuck..
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>>528699738>>528699971It's all underneath.>>528699891>>528699938Calm down. Fuck sake.
>>528700017Convince me.
>>528699938https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_caENlxzK0&list=RDW_caENlxzK0&start_radio=1this whole stuff made me keki could listen to his shit for hoursrip Axel
>>528700184Convince you of what? They were real?
>>528699938>NaziismWhat the fuck retarded PASTA is this??Will you retards ever stop?
>>528700315Convince me they were fake.
>>528700350That's a Jew
>>528700407Well, the astronauts falling over and being pulled up by their wire tethers, the really shitty 1960s special effects of the module blasting off "back into space" for a start. Actually, I have my own theory; we did go up there, but what we found was so shocking we couldn't show the world, so they had to come up with the shitty special effects reels instead.
>>528699826Buddy I need time for all this. Fuck sale. Who the fuck is Axel Stoll?>Axel Stoll (30 October 1948 – 28 July 2014) was a far-right esoteric German geophysicist and conspiracy theorist. He wrote many books, including..... Ack ack ack.... Hold please. And if you jannos fuck with this thread again. MOTHERFUCK.I come here is good faith.
>>528700601As good as a theory as any I guess.I lean the other way.
>>528699826Jesus Christ dude.>Several of Axel Stoll's conspiracy theories centered on World War II. He thought that Germany colonized the Moon after the defeat of the Wehrmacht.
>>528700697some schizo doctor physicist who got banned he would yap so clever and plausible about it that i could believe it in the end it is shizo babble fanfic but in such a professional way that it seems real when you heard him speakhis IQ was over 160 probably
>>528699826>According to Stoll, women's long hair served as a transmitter and receiver for communication between Aryans and Aldebarans.Even among the so-called Reichsbürger (Citizens of the Reich), who reject the Federal Republic of Germany....How fucking high on amphetamines.Why do you fuckheads have to muddy any and all waters like this? Are you people German Jew by chance?
>>528701008https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvgHClMSLKI
>>528701008Bahaha. Nice. AND THIS, yee James, is what is known as GOOD FAITH.
>>528701021topkek
>>528701156James is JANNIES.
reminder:>1. The entire cosmos is permeated with plasma. In some regions (within a galaxy, within a solar system) the plasma is denser than it is in others. In some cases the plasma is visible, in some, not.>2. The electrical properties of plasma vastly outweigh its mechanical (gravitational) properties.>3. There is nothing mysterious about magnetic fields. They do not "get tangled up", "break", "merge", or "reconnect". They require moving charges (electric currents) in order to exist.>4. The relative distances between even the most densely packed stars are vast in comparison to those stars' diameters.>5. The homopolar motor - generator shape seems to be ubiquitous. Stars, pulsars, and galaxies are organized in this morphology.>6. The z-pinch effect that occurs in Birkeland currents (electrical currents that flow through plasmas) is responsible for the accretion of stars, planets, and galaxies.>7. It is quite possible that the solar system started out as a collinear array of "Herbig - Haro" type objects formed by a z-pinch.>8. The presumption that, if an object exhibits redshift, it must be far away - is false.>9. The Big Bang Theory is false. It has been defended in a most unscientific way.>10. There is a lot more electrical activity out there in the cosmos than astrophysicists seem to want to admit.>11. Astrophysicists and cosmologists need to take some courses in electrodynamic field theory and experimental plasma physics.>12. Astrophysicists need to stop acting in a "knee- jerk" confrontational way to any ideas involving electricity.>13. Astrophysicists should stop dreaming up impossible imaginary entities such as black holes, neutron stars, strange matter, WIMPs, MACHOs, and MOND, when a perfectly real and well understood body of knowledge stands ready to explain all the things that "mystify" them so.
>>528701129He just said 100million volts.100,000,000volts.You are German right.Help me quantify that.
>>528701129>>528701494You fuckers made the largest electrical transformer presently on earth. For China. Thanks by the way. Explain 100million volts.
>>528701463I have so many fucking questions bro.
>>528701789what questions you got?
>>528701894Fuck. Hold.
>>528701708beautiful thing>explainim not an expert but i think he is trolling more or less in this vidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlIpiYX5kzgsadly you have to speak german to understand his arthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMPMa7vNtjQ
>>528701463Based.Everything is electrical potentials and the effects thereof.
>>528702052>Herbig - Haro.K.I started asking questions because I did not understand how light and radio waves were said to have dual properties, as both waves and particles and how whatever it is gets propagated through sections of space that are vacuums and devoid of matter.
>>528699528>and your discussion will be invaded by low intelligence schizophrenic filthoops was not intentional sorry kek
>>528700350She has really googly eyes! Like if you shake her her aruond her eyes boggle around and stuff!! They dont stay still
>>528702052>>528702435Once I started asking about how a signal was generated by a device outside our solar system and reached our planet in 5hrs and what the physics of that would look like, the thread was nuked.
>>528702493She is an absolute genetic anomaly.
>>528702493She's anime if it were real.
>>528701463WHat about the Schwarzschild Radius and the Kerr Metric? The numbers are suggesting otherwise. dude tell me more about that.
>>528701894>>528702659So how do radio waves from outside our solar system somehow reach us within 10 minutes. How does a vibration blast off from a device millions of miles away, then propagate itself through dust, random matter, voided vacuous stretches of space. Does the existing matter vibrate at a frequency that once it meets the absolute wall of a void, shoots off particles that pass the void in a sequence that resembles the vibration, and slams into matter on the other side that causes it to vibrate and pass the other side, void to matter, matter to void, wave to particle, particle to matter....
>>528702191So just some undetermined flux of positive and negative.
>>528700017You deserve a "fell for it award"!Why would /pol/ deny the greatest marvel of the whtie man? Of nazi scientists working for the US etc?
>>528698253its electric
>>528702435>Herbig - Haro.you never heard of Herbig Haro Objects?basically there are large electric currents in space and these form magnetic fields, the magnetic fields compress matter through a Z-Pinch and create stars and planets. HH Objects are basically "star and planet factories".also a much better explanation than the failed mainstream theory with the accretion disk bullshit.
>>528699302>i like cgi
>>528702191>>528703221Surely that isn't true. It's just a balance. Unchecked and at 100million volts, it would degenerate into chaos.Wtf man.>>528701708
>>528703221Same as it ever was
>>528703329I'll look into it. I am old my German friend. I like the accretion disk idea.And I have read enough, I know it dates back to the 1800s. What a bummer.
>>528702907no such thing as black holes. what they see is a plasmoid.>The numbers are suggesting otherwise.another big problem of (((modern science))), jews basically think that math = reality.
>>528703094>So how do radio waves what radio waves are you talking about? what 10 minutes?
>>528703684What the fuck?Why does that look like nuclear fission?
>>528703094His proposed cosmological model is not grounded in reality or observations. He cannot do mathematics, and his "explanations" will only leave you with further confusion. There is no fundamental difference between him and a flat earther.If you're really keen on physics, the solution is to go through accepted physics books and channels and stay away from crackpots.During the first year of a physics program they often use large books which scratch the surface on practically every subject you're going to come across during the next years of study. These books are fairly light on algebra and calculus, so they're pretty easy if you want to understand basic principles. Some frequently used books:Physics for Scientists & Engineers with Modern Physics - Douglas GiancoliModern Physics - John MorrisonUniversity Physics - Young & FreedmanUnderstanding Physics - David C. CassidyOr if you want a free equivalent:https://openstax.org/details/books/college-physics-ap-courses-2ehttps://openstax.org/details/books/university-physics-volume-1https://openstax.org/details/books/university-physics-volume-2https://openstax.org/details/books/university-physics-volume-3
>>528703645>I like the accretion disk idea.it was never proven and even simulations have failed to explain how the planets formed in their locations or their mass, their tilts or many other things.mainstream astrophysics is a bunch of jew retards literally making shit up and changing their theory as soon as their failed experiment delivers unexpected results.>What a bummer.in the "deductive" jewish method of science, a vote of the jewish experts determines when and if a theory is correct.once such a theory has been accepted, it is not easily rejected in light of conflicting evidence.It is, however, often modified and made more complicated.When over time a theory becomes officially accepted, the essence of the matter has been settled and fixed. Modifications to the fine points of the theory can then be proposed and debated, but the backbone structure of the theory is set.That framework has already been firmly established.An inherent flaw lurking in this method is:>What if your “obviously correct,” basic, starting point presumption is wrong?real Science places first priority on the empirical method.The deductive method is (should be) secondary used to derive testable consequences from empirically generated hypotheses.Inverting these priorities makes science into a pseudo-religion.In religions, revelations of truth take precedence over worldly observations of fact.In those scientific circles where the deductive method reigns supreme, theory takes precedence over empirical facts.Einstein and Hawking were frank about this view of the interdependence of reality and theory.their theoretical physical sciences apparently failed to notice that the repeated application of the empirical method is how this interdependence is refined and reality becomes known.This oversight that placed deductive assumptions beyond question has gained theoreticians the stature of priests but at the expense of losing touch with reality.
>>528703735We have 2 interstellar probes outside our solar system. We receive radio comms in 22.5hrs. my bad.
>>528704067>We have 2 interstellar probes outside our solar systemallegedly, but lets assume its true.>We receive radio comms in 22.5hrs.doesnt it require XBOX huge satellite dishes to capture the signal?shits coming in at a billionth of a billionth of a watt or so last I remember.so what about it?
>>528704059This is going to take me a bit to synthesize. I do understand scieticfic method and the idea of peer reviewed papers. And how think tanks expect certain results, and certain factions/departments/schools/faculty etc to do their fucking bidding because $$$€€€£££etc.
>>528704460So the attenuation is off the fucking charts. Still blows my fucking mind we can send a signal that far.Doesn't bode well for actual I terstellar travel.I'm sorry bro,I still can't make sense of the physics of that.We still good 100trillion miles out?What do we do, leave a trail of floating interstellar repeaters?
>>528704460China?
>>528704059>Inverting these priorities makes science into a pseudo-religion.Holy shit fuck my life I AM SURROUNDED.
>>528704059>the interdependence of reality and theoryShit.
>>528704499>Doesn't bode well for actual I terstellar travel.and interstellar communication would also suck, imagine trying to browse /pol/ from some other planet far away and having to wait decades for the page to load kekmaybe your grandkids get to solve the captcha.>>528704857what about them?>>528704983and just look at the covid scam, the issue is not just in astrophysics. its everywhere.
>>528704059>This oversight that placed deductive assumptions beyond question has gained theoreticians the stature of priests but at the expense of losing touch with reality.I hope your fucking wrote that.I'm in a time zone in which I am getting tired and have to sleep. But thank you. I needed that.
>>528702191Not everything, but a large amount of what you know of. Yes.Truthfully existence, reality, and the Universe actually break down into command component systems, of raw information.The fact that you attribute physical tangible force/laws to a concept should be all the proof you need to understand that this Universe exists as a series of containers of abstraction, meaning the rhetoric by which a concept is described, is the matter of the concept.Concepts with conceptual matter do not need physical baryonic matter, to subsist in 3D baryonic space-time.Our Universe's main code line isn't strings, particles, or field waves. It's pseudo code, that is asymmetrically written unto and into itself.
>>528705755>Not everythingactually yes everything.
>>528703770Irving Langmuir discovered that one of the most important properties of plasma is its ability to isolate electrically one section of itself from another.The isolating wall is made up of two closely spaced layers, one consisting of positive charges and the other of negative charges. Langmuir called it a double sheath. Today it is called a doublelayer (DL).Because plasmas are excellent conductors, there will not be a significant voltage drop across them while they are carrying current.If there is a significant voltage difference between two locations within a plasma, a DL will form between them and most of the voltage difference will be contained in it.In other words, a DL is where the strongest electric field in any plasma will be found.Plasmas have an almost magical ability to isolate themselves from foreign intruders.If anything is inserted into a plasma, a DL will surround it and isolate it from the plasma.This effect makes it difficult to insert voltage sensing probes into a plasma in order to measure the electric potential at any specific location.It is this ability to isolate an intruder and surround it with a protective sheath (as human blood can) that probably inspired Irving Langmuir to use the term “plasma” in the first place and then to develop his ingenious probe that enables us to measure such voltages in the laboratory.
>>528704712Langmuir also discovered what is called the plasma frequency.Electrons, being less massive than ions, move more rapidly.He found that in plasma, free electrons move back and forth around the slowly moving +ions, a movement called harmonic motion.The frequency of this back and forth oscillation of the electrons is called the plasma frequency.If an electromagnetic wave (a radio signal) tries to pass through a plasma, it may get through or may not.The determining factor is whether the frequency of the incoming radio signal is higher than the plasma frequency.If it is, the radio wave goes through the plasma as if it were transparent.If the frequency of the incoming radio signal is lower than the plasma frequency, energy from the signal is used up in accelerating the plasma’s electrons.This results in the signal energy being absorbed or partially reflected from the plasma.This is why radio waves are reflected back from different plasma layers in Earth’s upper atmosphere.This effect enables intercontinental radio communication at certain (low) frequencies.Very high frequency signals penetrate the upper atmospheric layers and are lost into space.Of course, if our goal is to communicate with a spacecraft, then we want to usesufficiently highfrequency signals to penetrate the ionospheric plasma.This is also why spacecraft reentering the atmosphere experience the familiar “blackout” period.Radio communication cannot penetrate the plasmasheath that forms around a spacecraft as it reenters.For sensors in space, our Earth is a source of kilometer long wavelength radio signals.The notion that planets such as Earth could emit radio frequency signals was long derided by astronomers.These transmissions are due to auroras high above the ionosphere.Since their frequency is much lower than the plasma frequency of the ionosphere, they cannot be detected on Earth’s surface and were first heard only when satellites traveled above the ionosphere.
>>528705896High intensity electric current passing through a plasma will take on the corkscrew (spiral) shape discovered by Birkeland.These Birkeland currents most often occur in pairs and tend to compress between them any material (ionized or not) in the plasma.This is called the “Z-pinch” effect. This is how Stars are created.In 1934 W. H. Bennett first studied this ability of cosmic electric currents to accrete and compress even non-ionized material.This Z-pinch (or Bennett pinch) mechanism may explain the observation that cosmic matter tends to form an abundance of filamentary, stringy structures.Astronomers have long thought that a major effect of magnetic fields in space was to disperse matter.Instead, we see through Bennett’s work that just the opposite effect occurs when cosmic currents align themselves with magnetic fields to form Birkeland currents.
>>528705896Negative chief.EMF doesn't get you past barrier zero.Your species has some time before you understand what that means, but electron field interactions only matter in places that benefit from the existence of the electron in the first place.There are other locality options.This existence is one of many flavors.
good thread so far
>>528706446>Your species lmao this nigger thinks hes E.T
>>528706415We live in a universe of plasma. And a universe of plasma differs significantly from what might be called Newtons Universe, a universe of stars and solid masses acted upon and controlled only by gravity.The presently accepted “gravity only” universe is one whereby all matter was created in a single instant and reacts only to gravity under the modifying ideas of general relativity.A plasma universe and a gravitational universe have gross observational differences.A plasma universe should be filamentary, stringy, at all size scales (in the atmospheres of planets, in the Sun’s corona, in groups of stars, in galaxies and in strings of galaxy clusters).It should be energetic, a source of electromagnetic radiation over the entire electromagnetic spectrum, and it should be endless in space.The gravitational universe the “big bang” universe is supposed to have produced all the elements originally, should now be quiescent in the absence of mass collisions, and should be increasingly smooth on the large scale.The filamentation, chaos, and radio-frequency radiation that we now observe were not expected in the original big bang model.Another difference is that a universe of plasma in chaotic motion tends to produce cells of plasma of different voltage, temperature, density, and chemical properties, just as is observed in the laboratory. It is the relative motion of these cells that generates both electric currents and charge separation when the cells drive through each other.These electric currents produce magnetic fields.Charge separation causes electric fields to exist.So, filamentation, chaos, electric and magnetic fields, intense charged particle beams, broadband radiation from extremely low frequencies to gamma rays, and an overall cellular structure were the predictions of a plasma universe, as developed at the end of the Nineteenth Century.Unfortunately we had to wait about one hundred years for all this to be verified.
>>528706446>>528705896>>528706415>>528706346>>528706237EMF falls apart on variable relativity.You can't use EMF to pipe a scalar value through one dimensional space. In one dimensional space, the concept of EMF is grounded out of existence, by having to fill a void that can not be filled, EMF doesn't "disappear" there, it exists as a time differentiated, symmetrical, symbolic link, but has no effects on the one dimensional space, other than it tags along, and virtually exists there.Scalar relativity is what Einstein would have eventually gotten around to, if he were still alive and working on his original concepts.The sliding scale of the relativity equation, must be understood.E != mC^2 across all dimensional frames.There is a variable version of that equation, that scales, relative to the dimensional frame reference it is being used for.Scale that downward, then apply known physics, with likewise scaling.You can take just about any concept down to one dimensional space, but higher order effects are lost, and all potential higher order energies are just a dog ear of information there, not a tangible unit.
>>528706615Nope, I'm just one of the "lucky" ones.Stuck on this piece of shit rock, because of something that happened before it existed.
space is a distraction from the oceans. why is it always space not the trenches?
>>528706974its the other way around, everything is a distraction from what goes on up there.the Micronova is coming.
