>DUDE ITS THE RIGHT>DUDE ITS THE LEFTdont tell me you actually fell for this goy trap, did you /pol/?
Go die in an oven, kike.
>>528867996>exposes jewish tricks>k-kike!!lol look at this schlomo coping and seething
>>528867996
>>528868056Kikes like you are everything wrong with the world kys.
>>528868113sounds like pretty obvious projection from a rabbi, no? why dont you try denouncing the talmud?>nb4 >y-you k-kike!
>>528867900It's only lefties saying thisThe problem is in fact, the left. That's not to say "the right" is good, but yeah in fact 100% of the left is bad. Not 100% of Jews are bad.If you just went after lefties, everyone you got would be bad. If you went after Jews, you'd miss lots of bad people and catch some good ones too.>>528868096Tranny meme
>>528867900nope>>528868269>It's only lefties saying thisOkay, so lefties are objectively smarter than the retards on the right, then? entitled to your opinion, anon
>>528868269anon my point is that falling for us for them simpleton tribalism is bad! there is no left! there is no right! just jews with puppet strings controlling you!
>>528867900America is nothing but unity through politics. Its retarded
>>528868269>its about ideas, not race, goyTranny thought process
>>528867900>DUDE ITS THE JEWSYou want people to just adopt a trinary system instead of a simple binary, then? Maybe we can't blame everything that's wrong with our country on a group of people. And even if we could, isn't the important part focusing on the policies which are why they're bad in the first place? Every minute you spend promoting your favorite bogeyman is a minute you could have instead spent arguing for e.g. stricter controls on lobbying... you know, the way these people all get everything done.
>>528868473>muh idealogical irrational tribalismenjoy your sportsball goy
>>528868473What do you think the zionist lobby does? Why are you about to go to war with Iran?
>>528868344>Okay, so lefties are objectively smarter than the retards on the right, then? entitled to your opinion, anonNo, lefties are trying to deflect their well deserved blame.>It's not us! Don't get mad at us for all the bad shit we did! Go after the Jews instead!!>>528868348Nobody controls me. I chose not to be a covid karen or BLM kneeler. Why should I give a pass to those who chose to?>>528868427It obviously is. There are good and based Jews. There are very, very bad non Jews. Your line of thinking is going to allow Clintons, Fauci, etc to get off scott free
>>528868473I'm pretty sure the Mossad black mail ops hold more sway than lobbies
>>528868574The same thing lobbyists from all other special interest groups do: buy politicians and get them to prioritize their special interests. When you take a step back and look at the shape of the problem, 90% of what you hate flows through campaign finance and lobbying groups. Tighten controls on both and we might get a republic back.
>>528868623if no one controlls you then why do you politically "identify as" this in itself is the trap btw....
>>528868623>vaxx schizo screechingOpinion utterly disregarded. Literally nobody has been as systemically wrong as vaxx schizos
>>528868269>libs are all evil but jews aren't all bad. Wrong 100% of jews are bad.Clearly you have no idea about what is in the Talmud. And if anyone claims for a moment that they align with that message they are definitely evil.Also not all libs are evil, plenty of them are just brainwashed idiots fresh out of college.
>>528868785this anon 100% has the right line of thinking
>>528868785How many Jews "follow the Talmud." How many of them are even remotely Jewish. The main problem with most Jews today is that they're liberal, not that they're Jews.
>>528868530>dude my epic antisemitic social movement is totally not just another tribal poleYou don't understand you're doing the same team sport just with different teams in a different league.
>>528868662>>528868473>the way these people all get everything done.>The same thing lobbyists from all other special interest groups dojs we are in the middle of a scandal involving a zionist jew that wined and dined the Western elite while offering them trafficked women...>>528868662Just saying that the zionist lobbies fund like 98% of Americans politicans, and they are rabidly pro zionist because the various zionist lobbies are vengeful against anyone that critises israel I don't think you could change that scene that easily. And i dont have any delusions about the zionists. They literally spent decades building up a christian zionist movement in the United States and promoting extreme hasbare, antisemitism laws and the like. I agree that going against lobbying is the right thing, but you are dealing with a unique monster when it comes to the zionist lobby
>>528868934except mine is a clearly defined thirdparty entity, yours is your own countrymen hence where we are now... and as the other anon said if you agree with ANYTHING the talmud promotes you are simply just evil.
>>528868934Race is the primary loyalty of everyone except white people with the capacity for abstraction needed to even consider shifting primary loyalty to an idea
>>528869077What about all the anti zionist Jews?Ideology and religion has always trumped race. Look at the history of Europe."Race" basically only applies to low IQ browns in multicultural societies.
>>528869214Nigger you are less than 40 % white.Stfu.
>>528868696You are conflating actual identity with political identity. You are either left-wing, right-wing or don't care at all about politics. Which way you lean is just dependant on what policies you prioritize. Your leaning is simply an indication of your values, it's not your actual value system.
>>528869214>anti zionist jewsOnly exist for faggots like you to point to in conversations like this to cast doubt on the tribal nature of kikes. Classic controlled opposition. Wake me up when zionism actually is threatened by these tokens
>>528869031Of course it's not going to be easy. You know what makes it harder? The fact that a huge portion of morons need antisemitism to organize themselves. If you guys just dropped the DA JOOOOOZ act, you might find that tons of people across the political spectrum would be amenable to changing the system. What you will never be able to understand because you're just too deep in the self-righteousness of conspiratorial thinking is that it actually works against you. When you foreground your hatred for an arbitrarily selected demographic, you not only turn off all those people but everyone who dislikes arbitrary hatred in general. It creates strife from whole cloth where none is strictly necessary. If you just stopped talking about the Jews and instead focused on things like campaign finance reform and controls on lobbying you would have greater success convincing people... and in the process accomplish everything you wanted EXCEPT the elimination of Jews. It's just an emotional worldview, honestly. You can't get over your hatred and how the conspiracy makes you feel super special and keyed in to actually accomplish your stated objectives. It's irrational.
>>528868113>>528867996denounce the talmud. now.
>>528869432>arbitraryLmao
>>528869432>conspiratorial thinkingAnd how many times in the past 6 years have our so called "conspiracies" been wrong? ...case and point...
Blah blah blah blahAnd you guys wonder why nothing happens
>>528869397Ever heard of the two state solution? That's an actual existential threat to zionism and a very real possibility due to liberal Jews.Look up what Soros has been up to in Israel. Same thing as in the West except moreso. That's a real threat to Israel.Europe was one long history of whites killing other whites based on religious and ethnic conflict."Race" has rarely ever been an organizing position.
>>528869555Never, because they're unfalsifiable. You hate that word, but it's true -- there is nothing that can invalidate the conspiracy because it is simply always true in the minds of adherents. There is no evidence or argument or rationale anyone could ever provide to convince you that your conspiracy is unprovable. Something constructed to never be testable is never wrong. It's not the rigor of the worldview but the orientation of its axioms.
>>528869432I am not one to say the jews.>you might find that tons of people across the political spectrum would be amenable to changing the system. What you will never be able to understand because you're just too deep in the self-righteousness of conspiratorial thinking is that it actually works against you.Now you are just being insulting and very assumptious. >When you foreground your hatred for an arbitrarily selected demographic, you not only turn off all those people but everyone who dislikes arbitrary hatred in general. It creates strife from whole cloth where none is strictly necessary. If you just stopped talking about the Jews and instead focused on things like campaign finance reform and controls on lobbying you would have greater success convincing people... and in the process accomplish everything you wanted EXCEPT the elimination of Jews.Here we go with the insults and assumptive attacks again. >It's just an emotional worldview, honestly. You can't get over your hatred and how the conspiracy makes you feel super special and keyed in to actually accomplish your stated objectives. It's irrational.Jesus fucking christ you are one programmed retard. Im not a heil hitler nazi because i find the American zionist lobby to be a massive multipronged lobbying effort that goes in the legal and the illegal You are just an assumptive retard man, insulting and disgusting. Is this how you approach debate honestly? Just assume people are blatant nazis and project your lack of knowledge on them? Pic related is how the zionist have worked in the united states. But you are one fucking retarded fuck so i doubt you are open to reason on the subject
>>528867900midtwit
>>528869635>look goy, some of us jews realize bombing little kids and jerking off over their dead bodies is bad optics so we seek to merely "peacefully" dominate the Palestinians with our cucked puppets! We're totally a threat to global zionism!!!What a fucking joke
>>528869685>Just assume people are blatant nazisAren't you?
>>528867900don't care, still killing libtards
>>528869826No i am not. But you are assumptive and a retarded fuck for projecting your lack of understanding of the zionist lobby on people who do nothing but state facts. You are programmed to react in a certain way to avoid discussing difficult topics. And you come here talking mad shit when you are obviously the one affected by a toxic worldview.
>>528869664>no evidenceEpstein, Mossad, The genocide of Palestine, 80% of politician funding from isreal, JFK assassinated BECAUSE he wanted transparency from said funding. need I go on?
>>528869924tribalistic simpleton
>>528870030
>>528869953Not sure I buy it, honestly, but maybe that's because you're ESL. When you say "zionist," that's normally enough in English when you want to target zionism instead of Jews. If you say "zionist Jews," you are unnecessarily including Jews themselves as targets of your criticism. The reason why this matters is because the two are separable -- not all zionists are Jews (ask Trump) and not all Jews are zionists. Flattening the differentiation between the two is what reads Nazi. Maybe, if you aren't just being evasive (as tons of Nazis love to do), you could consider choosing your words more carefully.
>>528870238all jews are zionists by default, they've said it themselves many times "anti-zionism is anti-semitism"
>>528870238Jesus fuck, you are one dishonest cunt I said zionist jew because Epstein was a zionist jew.
>>528868269You’re the kind of goycattle he’s talking about
>>528870238All kikes are zionist. Some just realize that jerking off to the bodies of dead kids is bad optics and do some tepid token counter signaling for the sole purpose of giving shills like you something to point to in conversations like this.
>>528868269
>>528870362Don't you mean to say I'm a dishonest kike? You want to say it. You have my full permission to speak naturally.
>>528870431Do you listen to yourself? You have so far avoided every single issue I've brought u,p and you focus entirely on made-up bullshit that you invent in your extremely assumptious head. Hasbara style imo You are one extremely dishonest, manipulative and worthless cunt for opening an argument and immediately avoiding the subject matter to project your shit on people because you are obviously well aware your original argument is dumb as fuck.
>>528870431regardless of if you are trying to prove something with this post, you do come across as a gigakike.
>>528870238
>>528870580>You have so far avoided every single issue I've brought u,pLike what?
>>528868269>Not 100% of Jews are bad.Counter example? Please?
>>528870890pfft, hahahahahahaha. look at this fucking guy. attention span of a squirl right here.
>>528867900Don't use Kimika for this nonsense!
>>528871126>squirl
>>528871185but I love kimika
>>528871100He'll probably name some fag like Chomsky that does the whole "the US is using Israel" giga cope
>>528871189shut up nigger you cant even remember more than 2 back and forths worth of conversation.
>>528870890Like the fact that you claim restricting lobbying alone can stop zionist influence in America. Which I find funny, given we are in the middle of a scandal involving a zionist jew that bribed politicians, trafficked women to them and did lobbying for the zionist cause, all while the CIA and FBI were well aware of it, and never stopped the intelligence operation from taking place. My argument is this. You are facing hasbara and extreme influence by a foreign government, unlike anything else any country on the planet is facing from any lobbying organisation or foreign entity, and by a lot. And since the zionists have lobbied illegally and legally to take over your foreign policy since the start of the GWOT you have systemic issues if you want to stop supporting the genocidal state of Israel. I don't buy your argument. You need laws passed and a serious debate in America to resolve this issue, something that will never happen when fanatics like yourself are programmed to assume all criticism of the zionist lobby is akin to antisemitism.
>>528867900Both statements are technically correct. All direction brains are the problem.
>>528867900Why do NEETs always see giving up as a virtue that should be celebrated?
>>528871627oy vey
>>528871553I don't see why zionism or jews even figure into what Epstein was doing. Sounds like identitarian politics are doing a lot of heavy lifting for you there. We have rumors that Epstein was working with Mossad, but we also have rumors that he was working with the CIA and KGB. Hard to tell which, if any or all, is true from what's known. It sounds like you believe that because he was a zionist jew, he was therefore operating primarily as a zionist jew absent any real evidence -- you at least haven't provided any rationale, have you? For the record, this is why I clocked you. This kind of guilt by association is extremely common with Nazis and antisemites in general. I'm not calling you out because I'm a zionist, for the record. I'm calling you out because anti-zionist discourse needs to be carefully navigated such that we don't conflate antisemitism with antizionism. And for the record, almost all the lobbying is done aboveboard. It's extremely uncommon that people are prosecuted for failure to register as a foreign agent, because... why would they not register? We place extremely limited restrictions on lobbying in general. It's permissive to the point that there is little to gain for failing to register and much to lose. This is why I'm advocating lobby reform -- because it is objectively verifiable through the public record that sufficiently large influence is being exerted by ALL MANNER of lobbying groups... right under our noses. I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with the surreptitious angle when there is more than enough evidence to be gathered out in the open to support an anti-zionist stance. Just look up AIPAC's beneficiaries. Campaign finance and lobbying reform. That's all you need. The rest is a distraction which ultimately serves to diffuse the potential for real action by virtue of divisive, anti-ethnic inefficiencies.
>>528867996This Jew really doesn't like that kind of talk
>>528872303so whats your salary for writing this one up? 2 scheckles?
>>528872807I care about this stuff. No one needs to pay me to write at length on the things I care about. No one needs to pay me to see antisemitism as a pressure valve which benefits the same elites it pretends to excoriate. Antisemitism blows real grievances out into a safe cul-de-sac where it's sufficiently emotional to ease pressure and sufficiently divisive to prevent a real coalition from forming. You think you're edgy, but if you take a step back and look at the shape of the system, your beliefs only benefit elites. You not only threaten no one structurally, but the divisive nature of antisemitism actively diminishes, ironically, the chance of ever seeing the Israel lobby defanged.
>>528873077did you seriously just say anti-semitism benifits the elites... you do realize ignorance like that is the reason the world itself is in turmoil once again you've simple ignored all arguements and defaulted to calling everyone nazi's. Congratulation you complete and utter idiot.
>>528873257>did you seriously just say anti-semitism benifits the elitesYep, and then I told you exactly why. Whether or not you're ready to hear it is frankly not my problem.
>>528871663Falling for kosher culture war theater slop is a sign of low IQ good goy behavior
There is no Left, at least not in power. There are very rare outliers like Bernie Sanders but the Democrats and Republicans team up to make sure people like him are suppressed.
>>528872303>I don't see why zionism or jews even figure into what Epstein was doing.>>528869685Why the fuck do you think i posted this email? Epstein was clearly working for Israel and promoting the zionist cause; it's there in black and white. >We have rumors that Epstein was working with Mossad, but we also have rumors that he was working with the CIA and KGB. Hard to tell which, if any or all, is true from what's known. It sounds like you believe that because he was a zionist jew, he was therefore operating primarily as a zionist jew absent any real evidence -- you at least haven't provided any rationale, have you?No you fucking retard, there is a massive propaganda push by none other than Mossad to distort reality regarding epsteins affiliations. I'm not that stupid and neither are you. But you will pretend to beYeah dude i see what you are doing, and it's utterly meaningless to argue with someone as dishonest as you. You ignore reality, make extremely insulting assumptions and otherwise just shill. And the rest is bullshit, zionists in America are infamous for being the one group that doesn't register as foreign agents. Christian zionists are literally the biggest retards on the planet. You support ethnic cleansing, apartheid tier discriminations against palestinians and Israel is being investigated for crimes against humanity, war crimes and using starvation as a weapon by the ICC and yet you people ignore the moral calamity involved, and can't ever argue the case without resorting to liesYou are aware of what you people did right? You lobbied the United States president to issue an executive order sanctioning the judges of the ICC. .the zionists spend millions every year paying for influencers like charlie kirk to shill their narratives and you spend millions on zionist pastors for the same. There is a covert and overt influence campaign led by israel on America. This is information warfare on a massive scale. You won't ever recognise that.
>>528873389I'm not in the slightest perturbed at your own stupidity.
>>528867900most of the left and half the right are brainwashed by kikes though..
>>528873486>Why the fuck do you think i posted this email?Because you think it's proof of a grand conspiracy obviously lol. Anyway, we're just spinning our wheels now. I did my best to respond to the meat of your post, if you won't do me the same courtesy, I'm not sure I see a reason to continue onwards with this conversation.
>>528873915>I, like, totally can't tell if this guy is Mossad or KGB, my fellow goysHow many prime ministers of Israel have slept over at your house? How many daughters of Mossad chiefs have you run sex trafficking ops with? For me, it's 0 for both but maybe I'm just a weird incel.
>>528873915Yeah, you are a morally bankrupt person who literally shills for ethnic cleansing and the systematic discrimination of a people that welcomed your kind into their country before you started terrorising them for decades upon decades. And you come here thinking you are going to argue some moral stance against the evil nazisLiterally fucking kill yourself, you shill for a cause that is evil as fuck, and you know what, that makes you one obnoxious, morally bankrupt asshole. >grand conspiracyJesus fucking christ kill yourself, you are either ignorant of how covert influence campaigns work, or you are just taking the shill stance of ignorance as you have so far. Arguing the fact that epstein was working for zionist when he literally funded west bank settler buildings and lobbied the power elite of america is not some conspiracy theory, you dishonest zionazi
>DUDE ITS THE JEWSwho is gonna tell him
>>528874280Uh, yeah, ok. Nice talking with you, too, kek.
>>528874473Dude you shill for genocide. I speak the truthWe are not the same, and you will forever be haunted by your racist ideology
>>528867900OP IS A FAGGOT DONT TELL ME YOU FELL FOR IT
>>528867996>memefag
>>528867900bullying zakuro!
>>528867900Dude, it's Kimika on the front page.
>>528876085based zakuroenjoyer
>>528867900The weak need saviors.
>>528867900Centrist Master race checking in. The extremes on both sides are catty bat shit crazy narcissists that think they have a monopoly on the truth. The people on either side who are closer to the center but still pledge allegiance to a political party are mostly normal but they get a bad reputation. You have to get out of your bubble to experience these things.
>>528868269Nah yiddiot both sides are coopted, conservatism is best yet we get ultrajudenzionshit with extra progressivism.