Give the horses back
>>528878972what?give hagia sophia back
>>528878972THIS IS TURKIC HISTORY
>>528878972But they aren't Turkish, They were Roman, and the Italians have far more right to call themselves Roman than the Roaches
>>528878972Sure when they return constantinople to its rightful ownersROME
>>528878972I'm sure Greece wants its stolen half of Cyprus back from turkey.
Turks should go back to Asia, fucking niggers always saying retarded shit like they even belong here.
>>528878972>looted istanbulit's Constantinople
>>528879230SILENCE NIGGA
>>528879230Also I just re read that>1204> the byzantine empire at this point>turkey didn't even exist yetHolyfuck
>>528878972>give back these Christian artifacts to us that we would've taken first from the Christians if we had conquered them before you did
HAHAHAHA
>>528878972COME FUCKING GET THEM
Give back Constantinople first
>>528878972Turks are descendants of Mongol Tatars.Byzantines were descendant of Greek settlers. So the true owner of those horses is Greece.
Give constantinople back to Greece you mfGive the entire ionian stretch of cities back
>>528878972Huh? Those belong to the Byzantine Empire, not Turkey.
>>528879230That would be Greece.The Eastern Roman Empire always had Greek as its lingua franca and during the entire Roman Empire one could swear ones legionary oath in either Latin or Greek.
>>528879266They are 100% sand animals. They belong in middle east and so do you.
>>528878972We wuz Byzantines?
>>528879313I can't believe that any archeologist can be that disconnected from reality. Those archeologists have to be Turks.
>>528879426Istanbul was ConstantinopleNow it's Istanbul, not ConstantinopleBeen a long time gone, ConstantinopleNow it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night…
>>528879517Nah bro we earned our right, Turks didn't
>>528878972>say nothing for 800 years>decide now is the time to want it back
>>528878972> ID dyk pufOP confirmed OP
Turks are the descendants of roaches.
>>528879517Also why the hell are you speaking your part mongol maybe think about yourself before saying this
>>528878972How about no
>>528878972Lmao the Turks stole them from the Greeks.Anyway those are not the original, they are just copies.
>>528879419>Byzantines were descendant of Greek settlersNah, not all. many were greekified Anatolians, greekified Armenians, greekified semites and greekified Egyptians.
>>528878972You can see that brown hands were responsible for this just by the spelling of Türkiye
>>528878972Turks turned the Hagia Sofia into a mosque. Fuck them.
>>528879280Picrel but unironically
>>528878972This is beyond gay for everyone involved.
>>528879763Frankly that could be said about everyone, even we are greekified pelasgians
>>528878972Ottomans should return the slaves it captured and castrated first.
>>528879517Sug kuk, Pekka
>>528878972Don't betray Germany then fucking turks!
>>528879517Turks are more like mongals.Mistake often made since turks are a minority in turkey.
>>528879313so it comes from greece
>>528878972Those are trophies of European/Christian victory in Constantinople. Fuck off.
>>528878972>IstanbulDo they mean Constantinople?
>>528878972>the chutzpah Give Constantinople back.
>>528879230Whoever holds Constantinople IS Rome.
>>528879297No such thing as the "byzantine empire," it was just the continuation of Rome in the east.
>>528878972>Horse = Turkic horse archersThose are clearly ours, give it back.
>>528880625I'd assume those are from the hippodrome and I'd also assume the hippodrome races were made illegal as soon as the Ottomans conquered Constantinople.
>>528878972>in 1204kekYou aren't getting shit, Muhammed. Be glad we aren't taking Byzantium back as we should.
>>528881083It's not something to be proud of.The Byzantines were quite fucked, but Italian merchants made sure they became utterly fucked with no chance of redemption, then the Serbs came and fucked the corpse before the Ottomans came and sucked up all the Serbian semen stains.
>>528880910There were no hippodrome when we took over. cr*sader niggers destroyed it.
>>528881368The Byzantines were orientaloid harlots and catamites.Christcucks of the worst species.Its never a tragedy when weaklings get their shit touched.
Brits should have taken constantinople in between the wars
>>528881428And yet you claim it's artifacts. Curious
>>528881531Turkroaches have 0 historical reality.Literally vagrant yurt gypsies from Turkmenistan.
>>528878972wait holup, 1204 ? that was Constantinople back then. hahahahha, italy looted the eastern roman empire. Based roman retards.
>>528881531If crusaders didnt sack İSTANBVLL in 1204, those horses were going to be our in 1453, thus, those belong to us and shoud be returned.
>>528881776It was named Istanbul in 1930.
>>528878972Greece wants asia minor back
Enrico dandolo was drunk one time lotted constantinople and now sone guys from the steepes claim ownership over some stupid horses.This world is so weird.
>>528882000The turks are masters at swindling and ragebaiting.This is nothing but theater.
>>528881866>If crusaders didnt sack İSTANBVLL in 1204, those horses were going to be our in 1453, thus, those belong to us and shoud be returned.If Norman mercenaries hadn't fled at the Battle of Manzikert there would be no turks in Anatolia and Varangians would've received those horses making them Scandinavian. Italy should return then to Sweden.
Who gives a fuck what Christmas dinner wants? I'm sure Greece wants east Thrace, Northern Cyprus and Constantinople back too.
>>528881885And “Istanbul” is just a linguistic corruption of Constantinople. conSTANtinoBLE
>>528882156why would greece want east thrace you retard. that's modern day romania
>>528882239I thought it was sloppy Greek slang for "into the city".
>>528882330It is.Eis tan Poli.
>>528878972Give back Constantinople and we’ll talk you fucking cockroaches
>>528878972>Looted IstanbulNo, they looted Constantinople, there was no Istanbul.
it's still insane to me to think Turkey can force us English speakers to use a spelling that isn't even on our keyboards
>>528882415The entirety of Turkish identity is a joke
>>528879313>Mamara island, in the Aegean This has to be trolling at this point
>>528879297There was nothing Byzantine about that empire.Rome destroyed Byzantikon, removed every brick, every wall, every ornament and all the furniture, and constructed Roma Nova in its place.It's been Roman ever since, until the Ottomans took it in 1453.
>>528882505Belarus did the same, the literal meaning is White Russia. It used to be called Vitryssland in Swedish, that means White Russia. Now the official name is Belarus, that is White Russia but in their own language.
>>528879313woah, german kangz were buried under ancient Turkish kara boga marbles? checkmate racists.
>>528882590>There was nothing Byzantine about that empire.>Rome destroyed Byzantikon, removed every brick, every wall, every ornament and all the furniture, and constructed Roma NovaA christcuck emperor wanted an oriental seat. Far from every roman patrician and the senate.All to get taxes from his oriental agricultural slaves.And rule as god emperor of his hebrew religion.Nothing Roman about Byzantium.
>>528878972Turks don't exist, artifical mutt country full of mudraces cosplaying as kebabs.
>>528882590what are you even on you fucking retard, eastern rome fell between 200-500
>>528882148I only learned of these copper ponies today But I'm American and it think they're neat So they belong to me specifically
The Turks gonna demand the Shroud of Turin returned to them next despite not believing that Jesus was buried.
>>528882737it's only something pathetic turdie countries do>REEE NOOO YOU HAVE TO USE MY OWN TURDIE LANGUAGE NAMECzechia is an exception since they don't expect people to use Cesko and made a proper and fitting international term, though I still think the Czech Republic sounds better. Except for the fact that most countries that use the official form of their government in the name of their state tend to be shitholes.
>>528882947Turks claim ancient Greeks on their coastline were Anatolian, therefore turkic somehow
>>528882856You claim is more valid than the Turkish one, I vote for you. That's 2-1 against Turkey. Sorry roaches, you'll survive as filthy cockroaches always do, at the expense of others
>>528878972Give Constantinople back then
>>528883043>ancient Greeks on their coastline were AnatolianTo an extent they were Hellenized Anatolians.Like Artemisia of Caria.
>>528878972Truly the Poles of little Asia
>>528878972There is nothing more pathetic than a conquered land crying over battles they lost hundreds years ago>give back our ancient relics from your museaNo, it's our loot.
>>528883132They were hellenized like Macedonians, Epirotes and even Pelasgians themselves were hellenized. To claim these weren't Greeks is like saying Prussians, Saxons and Austrians are actually slavs and not Germans
>>528883043the funny thing is modern Greeks are more closely related to classical Anatolians than they are to classical Hellenes, which is also true of Turks vis a vis actual steppe Turks.It's hellenized anatolians against turkicized anatolians at the end of the day.
>>528879270Istanbul was ConstantinopleNow it's Istanbul, not ConstantinopleBeen a long time gone, ConstantinopleWhy did Constantinople get the works?
>>528878972no lol it's been 800 years it's not yours anymore
>>528878972they can give back constantinople
>>528883132The coastal Anatolians were mainly Greek Greeks, maybe not Pontic Greeks.Central Anatolian Greeks were assimilized people's.I'm pretty sure genetic studies support this.
>>528883360there actually is. crying about someone else beating the country you invaded and conquered first and looting their shit before you had a chance to beat them and loot their shit. If those bronzes were in Constantinople at the time of conquest they'd 100% have been melted down and made into cannons.
>>528879742nigger you're from ireland
>>528881866If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas
>>528878972>1204>turks in constantinopleExcuse me
KEEP THE HORSES
>>528883416THATS NOBODYS BUSINESS BUT THE TuuuuuuuUURKSIS-TAAAAN-BUUUUUUULLL
>>528883373Macedonians and Epirotes were Greeks.Even OG Greeks compared to the Athenian mulattoes.>>528883413>It's hellenized anatolians against turkicized anatolians at the end of the day.Largely yes.
lmao give Asia Minor back
>>528883451>The coastal Anatolians were mainly Greek Greeks, maybe not Pontic GreeksNot really my guy.
They're made of bronze not gold.Just make some new ones you cheap fucks.You know how easy those are to make with modern technology? FFS roaches.
>>528878972Nay.
>>528879280why is the celt brown?
>>528883413Considering all the elite human capital came here from somewhere else supposedly, far north from here, I don't think it matters whether we're brown aegeanoids from the west or the east. In the same way Indo-Europa molded the Pelasgians, Turko-Mongolia molded the Anatolians
>>528883802St. George is Christian plagiarism off the Bellerophon myth.
>>528883662Not initially, Macedonians were once their own thing, even their story has their royals coming from the south. To tell where Greeks end and Illyrians begin in Epirus is a long story. In the same way we're infused with Anatolians, we are of course infused with our northern neighbors too
>>528883856Not really.Turkey is informed by Arabia and Persia.Through Islam and its Persianate culture.They speak a mongoloid language.But its important to be reminded Osmanli was never a court language.Persian was the court language.Turks dressed in Persian pijamas.
>>528878972You made this? I made this. Give back Constantinople turk roaches
>>528883965The Macedonians were so OG Hellenic that they remained non-urban pastoralists and spoke a dialect which was basically Proto-Hellenic.Very close to Doric.
>>528884015Turks had the relationship with Persians that Romans had with the Greeks, as inspired conquerors. Still though today Turks have made themselves independent from these influences and no longer consider themselves guests in their own country, which used to be the case once
>>528884142>Still though today Turks have made themselves independent from these influencesOf course.Thats why Papa Roach is buried in a mausoleum.
>>528879252Cyprus is not Greek they are middle eastern genetically
>>528884103There was the matter with Mygdonia, I do believe they were something else no?
>>528884270Even Venezuela has a mausoleum, might as well say the Dutch are persianate cause of windmills
>>528883920Says he was a celt
>>528880434>>528880461The whole "we wuz the true romans n shit" has to be one of the saddest cope to come out of academia in the last 30 years. Greeks could never accept the fact that Charlemagne was crowned as the new Roman Emperor by the Pope himself in 800. Even the Arabs called him the king of Rome.
>>528884295And who's Greek, Brad Pitt?
>from 1204ah hell no, we looted them fair and squareprizes and glory to the victorsyou want them back? come and get 'em (if you can)
>>528879280Correct. Semitic cults should get out Europe.
>>528884413Where?
>>528884432By that logic if nick Fuentes crowns someone as the new American president, we can ignore your congress
>>528884319Be Macedonian>be pastoralist>be non-urban>speak almost proto-hellenic>dress in fleeces like Jason>drink wine like an Irishman>ethnic gods are Apollo and ArtemisBe Athenian>dress in a khiton like a Phoenician>live in a squalor next to the Piraeus>speak the most heterodox Greek dialect full of Egyptian and Semitic phonetics>be an agricultural peasant>ethnic god is literally a Pelasgian godI know the christcuck byzantinoid in you wants to squirt out.But let it rest.
>>528884572They were right next to thracians and illyrians. Even Romanians try to claim them. Macedonians themselves expanded into their home, they started with a parcel of it
>>528884432You have to realize that without that Roman cape they are just a bunch of Armenians worshipping a Jew.Armenians worshipping a Jew is the only definition of the Byzantine state.
>>528884683What's the Portuguese identity, moors worshipping a jew?
>>528884665They were right next to Thessaly.And all Hellenes come from Thessaly.
>>528884683Read the new roman empire by Anthony kaldellis
>>528884747I wont.I prefet Juvenal.And Juvenal hated Greeks. Like all true Romans.
>>528878972MOLON LABE those mutherfucking horses if you want them
>>528878972Trade for Constantinople?
>>528884543Yeah that's a perfectly valid corollary right there Greek bro. I can see how bankruptcy came as a surprise to your people after cooking their own book to get into the EU.
>>528884665claim who ? we call our ancestors Dacians, part of the Thracian family.
>>528878972Turkey didn't exist in 1204.
>>528879130Istanbul was Constantinople but no one remembers but the Turks
>>528884741Considering Indo-European encroachment these forefathers of the Greek race probably came a lot farther from that. Sure if you count on myths like an ancient historian you can reach amazing conclusions but...
>>528878972>Tyurkhuckyippiekaiyaywhere?
>>528884852Don't you have fifty trillion in debt you can't seem to dispose of?
>>528884802Juvenal didn't even live in byzantum retardHe was talking about city state greeks.
>>528878972Never.
>>528878972I don’t think Euros realize that if they get rid of the US before fully militarizing again they’re just going to be at Turkey’s mercy.
>>528884859You're the guy that claims Romanians are the real Greeks and the real Romans though aren't you?
>>528879280You’ve got to clear them out as well.There needs to be a new start!
>>528878972what the fuck is a turkiye
>>528879266Manolo, you are a brown Moor too.You have 800 Lightyears of Nafri DICK woven into your siesta-taking DNA, you SPIC from SPIC PRIME (Spain)
>>528885000what ? that's crazy, you retard.that other romanian is yanking your pizzle.
>>528884951Imagine if Juvenal saw Greco-Armenoid Jewish worshippers calling themselves Roman.>>528884972Turkey is a non-factor.Turkey is going to be butchered by all the neighbours that they have pissed off.Arabs, Greeks, Kurds, Georgians, Balkaners, Armenians.The Kurds are already conquering Anatolia from the inside.
>>528878972No…give Constantinople back muzzshits
Do it again based Timur!
>>528884319Most theories are that it was either a dialect or close relative of Doric. From our perspective they're best understood as Greeks even if ancient Hellenes considered them separate (or at best, on the periphery, barely civilized). Macedonians always considered themselves part of the Hellenic world, and Philip II kind of settled that question by force.
>>528878972Are they giving back Turkey or lets start with Constantinople?
Turkey is retarded they should have tried this ten years ago when woke was in full effect. Now we are right wing and not giving jack shit to turkroaches
Honestly what do turks even create with the resources given, i bet any euro country could use that stuff better.Waste of resources to give the turks this.
>>528885229You have to realize the Athenians were bitches.They considered anything non-Ionian to not be Hellenic.They often called the Thebans barbarians. Even the Thebans.
>>528885293I say “we” loosely but the west is more right wing than ever in the 21st century
>>528879313>they didn't come from greece>they came from greecethank you germany, well worth the wasted effort
>>528878972What little Burak gonna do? Send in the Trebizond archers?
Just look at what they did to poor hagia sophia.Now imagine giving them the horses they would put it in a min*ret.
>>528885468>poor hagia sophiaThat domed rock is one of the ugliest things I have ever seen.Christianity brought Jewish brutalism into the region.
>>528885076What do you think about the situation then? Like what is the sane perspective on the reach of ancient Thraco-Dacians, if that guy can take a hike? I'd like to hear it from you
>>528878972>shitalian cigans stealing bronze because it looks like copper>bebada boopada bapada bapadatruly shocking
Lol, imao even.No refunds.
>>528885556The Italians stole Gemistos Plethon from the Byzantines.When Gemistos Plethon met Pico della Mirandola.It was fucking over for the Byzantines.
>>528885229Just like epirotes they were seen as a borderlands breed, I'm not here to say Athenian snobs had it right, I'm here to say that hellenism is a cultural factor first and race second. Macedonians had to integrate these disparate tribes, they had to bring them into the fold. Thrace had to be turned Greek, Anatolia had to be hellenized...
>>528885556desu turks are the biggest ciganoids in this situation because they're trying to scam people into believing that something that was stolen 250 years before they even inhabited their stolen lands was stolen from them, rather than the people they stole their land from.It's actually a very common gypsy scam. Also common among their racial kin in India.
>>528878972>1204>Istanbul TTD
>>528885525>byzantine architecture was jewish brutalismWhat the fuck are you talking about? The muzzies changed a lot of it, added faggy minarets and took out a lot of the art and frescoes.
>>528878972SILENCE TURKSILENCE GREEK
>>528882829And what did Eastern Rome call itself all the way to 1453 through various conflicts?Basildon ton Rhomaion.Empire of Romans.
>>528885815FINAL BATTLEFOR THE WILD
>>528885815Why didn't you just occupy the city when you could, now roaches inhabit it for no reason.
>>528878972I stand with the Turks. Give them back, westoids. Also Ottoman Empire was the successor to the Byzantine one. Vienna we are coming.
>>528885754>hellenism is a cultural factor first and race secondLol. This is a crazy statement.Read Platos Laws.Then come back.>>528885813Byzantine architecture is ugly as hell.Byzantine painting. Ugly and jewish.You chrisscucks only love that ugly building because it has your favorite Jew depicted there.If the Hagia Sophia were in India and an Indian temple.You would call it a mudhut.
>>528883416>Now it's IstanbulNo it's still occupied Constantinople, roach
I'm gonna be honest: I love when you old world faggots get in huge pissing matches because of rando shit that happened in the 13th century.
>>528885871Based Serbia. Imagine fighting along with cathcucks. Ottoman turban>pedo pope tiara.
>>528879517Go throat singing with you turkish brothers back to the steppes
>>528885981Plato tells us the story of Atlantis, I'm here to talk about history man
>>528885853>Basildon ton Rhomaion.>Empire of Romans.Idi Amin called himself King of Scotland.
>>528885853speak plainly jew. from what you're saying i understand that eastern rome is the same thing as Rome. There is one Rome and that was located current day Italy.All other reenactments are cheap copies, Eastern Rome (greece), HRE (germany), Russia, USA they are copycats.
>>528885929Notaras-pilled kek
>>528878972GIBS CONSTANTINOPLE BACK
>>528879763>>528879419Almost but not really. Most of the non-Greek/Anatolian ancestry of modern day Turkey is actually from Persians. When the Mongols were burning down Iran, Khorasan in particular, waves upon waves of Persian refugees fled to Anatolia which was then ruled by the Turco-Persian Seljuks.
>>528886048Plato literally died before he even finished the story of Atlantis. You read a deadmans half finished Homer tale.
>>528879130>mfw no pretty eastern roman empress wife
>>528885981Orthodox aesthetic is top notch and based as fuck. Also SOVL. Catholic aesthetic gets boring and overwhelming after a while, focusing too much on material instead of spirit. Catholicism is basically a larp, not a religion. To be honest I also thing that is orthodox should ally with Islam and erase western “civilization”.
>>528886092So constantine wasn't roman? Also reminded he called the city nova roma,.
>>528884432Rome was the original muttland
>>528886007you just wish the oldest place in your state wasn't a Walmart built in 1976
>>528886247>constantinewhich one ? the one that fell in 1453 ? wasnt he serbian ?
>>528886166Worshipping Plato is like putting Galen on a pedestal, both had TOO much influence
>>528886243>Orthodox aesthetic is top notch and based as fuck.Let it all out helot.
>>528886327>wasnt he serbian ?Balkaner mixed breed.
>>528886327He was half Serbian, half Greek
>>528886299It's more that I get to view it completely extraneously. I obviously don't know all these events and historical figures. It might as well be a Tolkien book to me, but you guys are so fervent about it.
All of Asia is rightfully hellenic land due to Alexander
>>528884432Everyone in Europe couldn't cope with the fall of the Roman empire to the point all the elites larped as Roman elites.
>>528886327His mother was Serbian. His family, the Palaiologos, were originally Greek-speaking landowners from Anatolia before Turks took it.
>>528886466idk nigger, we study this shit in school.Latin as well.
>>528886361I love everything that the westoid fears. We need an ideology combining autocracy, collectivism, communism, orthodox talibanism, Stalinism, Islam and hate for anything resembling a civic society. Like complete reduction of the individual to the bare minimum, for the sake of the common good. Also lots of border trolling on the butthurt belters, this shit is fun.
>>528886466The Fourth Crusade and the fall of Constantinople were major historical events. You're bragging about being ignorant of basic history.
>>528886466to be absolutely honest, the only people who give a shit are >history nerds >faggots with a current political agendalike Putin and his bullshit about Kniazh Pidorovich who established a brothel by the river, therefore half of Europe must belong to Russia anons who argue European history here also do it to just shit on one another, usually for some ancient historical grievances with no bearing on today
>>528886673>communismfuck you nigger, we are already communist larping as capitalists.USA combined feds + state employees account for 7.5 million employees out of 350 million people. Less than 2%. Now you do european countries.
>>528878972>istanbulDon't they mean Constantinople?
>>528886673Tell me more doulos.We are going to kill your jewish god again.
>>528878972>turkey wants its >stolen bronze horses >back>in 1204 the fourth crusade looted istanbul>and tooki- i can not continue----
>>528886753you study it in school dont you ?your whole school system and the collegiate comes from the romans.
>>528886673Weren't there a dozen troglodytes found in a Greek ravine two years ago, claiming to be True Romans? Whatever these guys were cooking, we need a taste of
>>528878972those horses probably weren't even made by the barbarians that occupy the land known as Turkey. Italy did good getting these statues to safety and preserving them. In Turkey nobody would have cared and those horses most likely ended up as scrap metal without Italy's intervention.
>>528886842what's up indianstill seething at my God, i seegood
>>528878972that's a non-issue. give back what doesn't belong to you and make your own Italian horses. I bet Italians are talented enough to come up with their own horses
>>528886853>your whole school system and the collegiate comes from the romans.The Chicago education system was created in Chicago you dumbo.
>>528886753I know I am.
>>528886963i assumed the one interested in history is human. ergo not from Chicago.
>>528886963>26 pbti (indian)you guys all know the portugal flag is indian, yes?i bet you've all been replying to him thinking he's from portugalthis is funny to me
>>528886842Feel my hate pagan demon, you will kneel. The truth is one and universal.
>>528886847>>528878972DEATH TO TURKS. DEUS VULT.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf8Bf04Lb9E&list=RDzf8Bf04Lb9E
>>528878972they will be safer here. look what those pizzaniggers did to parthenon mosque.
>>528887094Just who exactly is the Portuguese anon?
>>528886247You are not white, spic
>>528887144>mosqueit must die
>>528887163an indianask him about hinduismfair warning, you're going to laugh.......so DON'T ask if you're just going to laugh
>>528887180Ok alemagneYou were considered a barbarian for 1 millennium lol
>>528887104Not very christlike of you georgios
>>528879230This is an endtimes prophecy in Islam. It literally has to happen for Islam to be true
>>528886963Are you a BRAHMIN BOY?
>>528887233>>528887163hol' up. is that the chat gpt know it all portugues faggot ? hell no, it must die.
ohhhhh he stops posting now, oh noi keep telling youkeep my God, the God of all the earth, out of your indian mouth, and i won't keep busting up your one outlet in the world where you get to interact with peopleyou sad retardhow many times have i told you this?RETARD
>turks laying claim to GREEK relic
>>528878972https://youtu.be/Wcze7EGorOk?si=
>>528887104>hate pagan demonLet it all out you hebrew catamite.Let it all out.
>>528887318>>528887286temporary cease fire to get the indian portuguese dalit out of the thread then we can continue bashing ourselves
>>528887341i am your end on this boardi will always be there to blow up your scamyou seething retardbow to my God, and i will let you bebow to JESUS CHRIST, who is GODdo it retard
>>528886790You are a banana state, the 4th German reich is already picking the governments for you and there is nothing you can do about it. Just like the fake nation called “Greece”, your identity was built in the west by combing ancient myths, infusing foreign words to your language and customs to your culture in a pathetic mimicry of France and Italy. The only reason modern “Greece” and “Romania” were created was to break up the Byzantine/orthodox world into easily controllable corrupt regimes larping as democracies.
>>528887449In what universe is a turkroach posting crusader pics?
>>528887341kill the dalit subhuman, in the name of Christ, Allah, Yahve. ALHAMDULLILAH DIEEEEEE SUBHUMAN.
>>528887520in this one where you are an indian seething at God, who is Jesus Christany other retarded questions, seething indian?
>>528887542>we wuz roman>NO NOT THAT ROMANHAHHHABAHAHAHHA
>>528887503fuck communists, nigger
>>528878972Only if they take all their disgusting Turkish filth back through a remigration agreement, should the Italians consider that
>>528878972Of all the retarded things king roach has ever said in the past 25 years, this is by far the most retarded onelike we're talking abo tier retardation here
>>528886210why didnt charlemagne just marry irene??? was he stupid??? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
any time you see a portugal flag making 50 posts in a thread seething about turkyiv or christians, it's this indian guyhave fun now, you knuckleheadsseething retard? until next timei'm watching you, you seething indian retardpeace!lmao
>>528878972Fuck you
>>528887609Keep emperor Hadrian, destroyer of jews out of your filthy cow drinking dalit mouff.
this is a joke
they will be safer with cats. rats may damage them.
>>528887754THATS NERO YOU STUPID GYPSY
>>528878972You can get them back, but you know what you have to do first, right?
>>528887855Look at these guard towers!
>>528887828nice try, piss drinking dalit.
>>528886243Without getting into the rest of your post, orthodox aesthetic is mostly an effort to say 'we aren't catholic' fixed at a very strange point in history. It starts undergoing every few decades a staggered 'de-latinisation' movement to remove changes that have crept in to their aesthetic or religious practices. These are rarely actually catholic changes. Sometimes it's just an excuse to make a change from the ancient to the modern that has become common in their flocks and claim it's a return to tradition. And before someone says REEEE CATHOLIC, well, pic related is within arms reach of me right now.
>>528887914orthodoxy evolved naturally from pagan traditions.unlike protestants and the 10 other forced catholic schism.
>>528878972>1204>InstanbulExcuse me?
>>528887884Byzantinoid gypsy ape.Thats Nero. Holocauster of Christians.First Anti-Christ.First Hitler.
>>528888049>orthodoxy evolved naturally from pagan traditions.>you worship yahudda now
>>528888099>>528888145you're indian. dei gonna getchu piss drinking subhuman.
>>528887144What happened between 1830 and today Diversity?
>>528878972>Turkey>Give the horses backTurn the Hagia Sophia back into a Church.
>>528887855I hate to say it but it looks better with the minarets. They provide a framing without which it looks smaller than it really is
>>528878972They were NOT stolen they are SPOILS OF WAR!
>>528888247There are more Indian christians than Greek christians.
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>>528887914That’s not wrong, since Catholic influences creep into orthodoxy just like degeneracy is creeping into a society in periods of peace and stability. When orthodox iconographs start treating their work as art and focus on the aesthetic part it’s a sign that demons have creeped in and this is when you know you have to put them in their place. This is how our religion has kept lots of the ancient customs that the Catholics lost.
>>528888292italians bombarded it during a war. isis tier niggery.
>>528888490>When orthodox iconographs start treating their work as art and focus on the aesthetic part it’s a sign that demons have creeped in and this is when you know you have to put them in their place.The Heliconian daughters of Apollo are demons now.
>>528887914There was a Greek church before the Schism, with their own rite and traditions. It's not like the east decided one day to separate entirely, that union was hanging by a loose thread
>>528878972give turkey back
>>528884572Jesus never took a wife it is impossible to be cucked by christ
>>528888292This country needs to start building something new, this focus on ruins and graveyards being more attended to than the high halls of the living is vampiric
>>528888866You got your soul harvested by a Hebrew catamite.Ultimate cuckdom.Who cares about women?
>>528882856Based Manifest Destiny enjoyer.
>>528888674So? Doesn't change so much of the crap that goes on now. The catholics are still fighting about vatican 2, Orthodoxy can't even decide if it's using beads, knots or rocks and if you guess wrong, someone's spiritual father is going to brain you for it.Actually if anyone wants a giggle, go read 'Athos, or the Mountain of the Monks' by Athelstan Riley and check out how Pantaleimon Monastery turned into a 'russian' monastery, it's hilarious. The rest of the book is funny too, an englishman competively scams his way through eastern europe until being defeated by the Bulgarians, then proceeds to go to Mount Athos and be the worst person ever. Might be all the mercury from his syphilis pills. It's a travelogue. You can find it online, fun stuff.
>>528878972Didnt Muslims steal Istanbul?
>>528887702He seethes about Iran and Persians too
>>528878972Modern day demographics of Turkey are not the same as in the past, they are demanding something that was never theirs to begin with.Like for example if Egypt become full nigger and then them asking for some Egyptian artifacts to be returned as if it was theirs to begin with
>>528879405>Nisha Zahid
>>528878972Give Constantinople back?
>>528889151So...It's a series of imperial statist churches that aren't meant to cooperate in any way other than diplomatic. There's supposed to be an Emperor that assigns these functionaries and dispels division, right now it's like every finger of our two hands is a little measly head. The Ecumenical Patriarch is very unlike the Pope of Rome, one serves the Emperor of Rome, the other serves himself
>>528878972We trade those horses with Constantinople, deal?
>>528889384>Like for example if Egypt become full nigger and then them asking for some Egyptian artifacts to be returned as if it was theirs to begin withEgypt is full Arab and they make demands for Egyptian artifacts.Muslim countries make money through tourism.Through showing shit to foreigners.Both Turkey and Egypt have an interest in all historical trinkets.
>>528888574No universal truth = no God = not a real religion, but simple demon and idol worshipping. Just because Zeus, Hercules and Ares look cool to you doesn’t make them real or superior to Jesus. You are a spiritual Protestant, a larper. You should start by studying some basic philosophy in order not to sound like a faggot larper retard, Pedro.
>>528889524Anything is superior to a hebrew catamite.Priapus is a much more of a god.
>>528879030Give Constantinople back
>>528878972istanbul is a beautiful city but the people are fucking awful, spent a few days there last summer. Being called roaches is well deserved and extremely fitting.
>>528879313>Doesn't know about AnatoliaJesus fucking Christ, retards
>>528889663>istanbul is a beautiful cityIts Cairo with trees.
>>528878972Türkiye mentioned
>>528889418I think we are talking past each other in the last few posts. I am not trying to justify these little episodes. I'm saying that many of them aren't even particularly religious changes, it's just a way to change according to the times and tastes and claim tradition still. Like the Rus and their Old Believers, but with less cataclysmic social change.
>>528879541>I can't believe state sponsored intellectuals would be that disconnected from realityReally nigga
>>528878972>Poland not getting back anything stolen by nazis and commies from 80 years ago and Turkey want shit from 800 year agoGood luck.
>>528889839Well the idea is to preserve traditional liturgy and values without breaking the printing press or banning the automobile, the church is conscious of its sour backwards reputation and tries to utilize modern culture and technology to compensate. There is a reason old calendarists, old believers and Christian taliban types are seen as chasing a fantastical holy grail of purity. Claiming tradition is about the church fathers, it's about the rites and rituals, it's about the legacy of the establishment, it isn't meant to keep us locked in the dark ages
>>528878972By that logic Turkey should give back its entire nation to Greece
No
>>528889588>THE OLD GODS WERE SUPERIOR TO YOUR JEWISH ONE>Sees picrel>NOO NOOT THE BROWN ONES!!This is how you “pagans” sound. This is what society ends up like when the Truth is absent and everything, including morality, becomes fluid. You end up worshipping the Pajeet sewer “gods” (demons). Pedro, you are literally in a spiritual union with the Poos. Please, at least go back to Catholicism. It may be crap and false but to be a whiter version of the Poo is a curse like no other.
>>528878972Give back constantinople or we will take it
>>528890435>Jamie, pull up all the pictures of nigger and spic (((christians)))
>>528882507Turkish identity is stealing
>>528890435You worship a jewish tranny my guy.A jewish tranny.
Most Anatolians are ethnic Anatolians (Byzantines), not descended from Turkic people
>>528890286I'm not saying it is, just that it isn't really acknowledged as that. That there's a paper thin veil of justification for these changes everyone knows exists and doesn't lift as though it really mattered instead of the actual reason. It's just dishonest.
>>528879313>>528879405What is a site called "GreekReporter" posting such nonsense though? Calling Marmara Island which is off the coast of Greece, belonged to Greece at the time the marble was used and inhabited solely by Greeks as "Turkish" is beyond next level pupil
>>528890936Archeologists need funding.Archeology can only get funding through state nationalism or with ragebait.
Aren't the Turks famously stupid about archaeology? They even had a little fit in official docunents about some literally who on xitter and gobekli tepe, I think?
>>528879030This. Constantinople was never Turkish at all anyway.
>>528891019People should hold them accountable and force them to be consistent, if the marble is "Turkish" because the island is now controlled by Turkey in the modern day then any pre-European artefact in the New World is also European
>>528890864What changes are you talking about anyways, regarding the calendar, regarding modernization of language? I fear that I may be misunderstanding your idea of what the situation is, like what is this great lie that the church is selling here?
>>528879313>modern day So it was Greek then?
Did the seljuks seriously not build any statues honoring their precious steeds? Imagine having to walk to anatolia without a horse. It would've taken at least a year, maybe two.
>>528878972>>528878972>>528878972Daily reminder that all the "no tail" and furfag posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize degeneracy across the board.Same trannies who shill for Jewkraine and make the /uhg/ threads btw.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990
>>528879405In 200 years time the Magna Carta will be an ancient Pakistani document, which the Indians will say it belongs to them.
>>528892680wrongEngland is Hindu territory saar, Scotland is Pakistan. North Ireland is Bangladesh.
