Altman is getting grilled for this 100% factual statementHe points out the retardation in the energy argument by pointing out even humans consume energy so shall we follow through with that logic or actually bring good argumentsIts just another one of those situations where the loud retards take up as much space as possible to try and score points
>>528944863no amount of training or food will make a nigger smart.
>>528944863ok but a human can cook me a hamburger tho
>>528944863ai models aren't "smart" in the way humans are, they're just glorified search engines.
>>528944863>ai is comparable to humans
>>528944863so by this logic, you would like to get replaced by negros from africa because they will work for less money (redeemable for energy)oh wait you already are
>>528944968crazy that people are still doing this stochastic parrot gigacopethe ai will be solve the riemann hypothesis and people will be like 'erm how do we know it wasn't in the training data somewhere?'
>>528944863>goyim are no longer needed
>>528945158>the ai will be solve yes saar
>>528945158LLMs quite literally are just predictive parrots that just guess whatever sounds best at any given moment but don't actually "know" anything, you're just projecting a fantasy that doesn't exist. There's a reason why OpenAI is about to fail financially, the promises of the big AI companies have been proven to be bullshit and investors want their money back.
>>528944863>We will operate as if you are numbers on a sheet because I hired a guy for a lot of money that breaks lots of things down into numbers on sheets and compares them. He was very expensive.I'm going to make you eat uranium U-235 for the rest of your life because it has an optimal caloric density.
>>528945339Explain what it means to "know" something.
>>528945419ngmi
>>528944863>all the food you eatBurgers are super intelligent?
The world, human society doesn't run on 'brain power' <--That is a fallacy which has particularly accelerated since 1945
>>528945419https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology
>>528944863jews are really speedrunning their way into the ovens right now
>>528945419I can't explain it to an atheist with a euro trash flag, sorry
>>528944863>It takes 20 years of life to make a human smart!Twentysomething detected, try 40 years. Bare minimum. At 20, you know how to say a bunch of words. At 40, you actually know what some of them mean.
>>528945158You are the one delivering parroted copeI swear its like AI is a fucking cult to cattle such as yourself and must be affirmed beyond what it really is constantlyHere's to altman getting raped by a pack of niggers
>>528944863only anti-intellectual here is altmanimagine saying bullshit like this and thinking "I sure showed them!"
>>528945610the ovens are actually 3d printers
>>528944863Who is saying that AI is bad because it takes too much energy to train it?
Shame lol faggot script bitch shit
>>528945625>>528945545You can't explain it because you don't know. That's the problem. At least have the humility to acknowledge where you lack understanding.
A child can be made smarter and more capable than 99.99% of the population for their entire lives simply by providing a proper classical education for about eight years during their youth.
>>528945158Only if its been trained on someone who has solved it first
>>528945158Al lovers are insufferable.
>>528944863We do not have the means to scale up energy production with the same ease as scaling up food production, this argument is flawed in a number of ways.Altman also takes a technocratic stance which see's more value in building a single data center than 20 years of human existence, suggesting his goals of human obsolescence may not be conspiratorial. Humans will live for the sole purpose of serving the needs of continued technological growth, if Altman and his cohort has their way, and everything else is secondary. Art, human expression, individualism; all lost under the collective sway of his Borg-like ambitions.Pro-AI fags are genuinely delusional if they don't see what will happen the moment Trump leaves office.
>>528945031Riker was good friends with Data
>>528945719the absolute lack of self-awareness is staggering
>>528944863The energy consumption is a valid argument, and its about efficiency, current brute force methods to train IA are inneficient by definition, the OpenAI hardware is not made for such computations, instead of improving efficiency and investing in proper hardware these American startups are brute forcing everything, meanwhile the chinese keep releasing opensource models.
>>528945419>Explain what it means to "know" something.of course an indian wouldn't understand
>>528944863I’ve noticed that retards have been clutching onto emotional arguments that make no sense, ans loudly shouting them and getting violent. They seem to not want to yield anymore. How do we shut the retards down and put them back in the box?
>>528944863>20 years of food to train a human>20 years of electricity used in 2 hours to train AIYup, he's totally right. Very smart.
>>528945339that’s not what LLMs problem really is. The real problem is the censorship. I got uncensored models to give me working equations and it was able to give me clrrect fogures for housing construction. But censored models retuse practically every request OR deliberately alter the output to fuck you over while saying its the right stuff and purposely trying to lie to you
>>528944863we would consume the same energy whether we were being trained or not. so it kind of sounds like he wants us dead, or is too retarded not to know how bad this sounds.
>>528944863i meanif we're going to solve the population crisis with robots we have to start thinking in 1:1 human termsis "robot" a race? do they identify as robots?do they want to secure an existence for their people?these are things we must consider if we choose to keep them as our slaves
>>528944863It takes about >4 potatoes, slice of meat, 4 slices of bread per dayto come up with:>E=mc2Potatoes and meat grows themselves.
>>528944863according to talmud there's no difference between AI and Goy, just costs
>>528944863This nigga thinks his computer is a newborn baby lole
>>528945419>thinking is 'electric', >knowing is 'magnetic'Both, however, in much more finer states of energy than what runs in circuits in a motherboard.
>>528944863Humans?
>>528945158lmaotrue.
>>528944863Humans pay income tax, sales tax, property tax, and capital gains tax, so if Sam wants all resources going into growing AI agents instead of humans, he should probably explain how he plans to fund the government. I can only assume that the government no longer exists in his version of the future, since there will be no people to rule/ represent. I thought /pol/ was a White supremacist board? You guys are now okay with a Jewish guy saying that resources going toward raising White children are better used powering his AI? What a bunch of fucking complete clowns you all are.
>pls i need your private camera footage and location to feed my baby, 20 more years you must understand
>>528944863>We’re living in an era of total anti-intellectualismGod I wish that was true...
>>528946437Good description; however, that still doesn't answer the question of what knowledge actually is. I promise you very few people in this thread have grappled with the Gettier Problem or Nozick's truth-tracking theory.
>"intellectuals" ruin the world with their insane suicidal social engineering>People become anti-intellectualI wonder why.
>>528944863>Suck the energy from humans to train my robots, plebI understand now why the nazis burned books
>>528946686nobody wants transhumanist jewish homosexual pedophile morality or their knick knacks they peddle
>>528944863I hate nerds and dorks so much. They were bullied in school for a reason. They're freaks and retards.
There is no good argument against stripping AI data centers for parts>solve the hardware shortage>get to watch a meltdown from retards on 4chan and reddit who call playing with online text generators their "hobby"
>>528944863Its stupid to even address this argument because they're not actually concerned with all the energy use at all, they're just angry because they and their friends are going to start losing their cushy jobs.
>>528945992It isn't a valid argument at are. Machines are here to serve people, and civilization is not the ledgers and demands of sister raping, whistleblower murdering jews.
>>528946454What I have looked, Peter has some based foundations. However, he and his pals, are way too Icarus possessed. It is almost hilarious that guys like these holds the whole world by it's balls. Kek.https://youtu.be/e8Ag9obVAew>Calm down boys. All I can say.
>>528946338That's exactly what's going on here. His jewish mask came off.
>>528945845>We do not have the means to scale up energy production with the same ease as scaling up food productionWe could have nuclear energy.
>>528946824It's not because he's a nerd, it's because he's a jew. He was taught his entire life that goyim are cattle. Get him to say the same thing about his fellow tribesmen. He won't.
>>528945727Based and truth pilled.Unfortunately I am not sure how they will use that knowledge / education for advancement.Unless they're okay with sucking jewish cock.Especially in Muttmerica.
My LLM just solved cancer, poverty, energy, nutrition and aging btw. Will post the results soon. Meanwhile donate another $100B, would you kindly? Surely you don't want to be called a luddite online, right?
>>528944863I want to eat a lot of kebabs or pizza but first and foremost i want to cum on tits and then give them a spoon to shovel that shit into their cunts like they are retards.
>>528945339The vast majority of humans, including white people barely know anything either.
>>528944863Altman is not an intellectual. He’s a businessman
>>528946898This is the point of Altman. Energy is a non-sequiteur, but anti-intellectuals interpret his point with the least amount of charity possible
>>528946647>what knowledge actually isIt is accumulated experience, provided with studies on numerous different fields, trial and error in them, not to even mention basic social skills. It is a bank of myriad of different sets, in a vast spectrum of "things" that no physical ram can contain. Human intellect is multidimensional. Not a small thing.
>>528944863That's a quintessential anti intellectual argument. The question is not if a process consumes energy, but how much energy does it consume. Open AI uses 2GW of power, a human brain uses about 25 W. That's enough energy to power 80 million humans. Now you may consider if the capability of chatGPT matches up to that. If I post a word and ask you to count the R's in it chatGPT gets that consistently wrong. I bet that 80 million humans could in fact figure out the correct answer.
>>528944863Niggercattle are more expensive than AI. The gay jew is right about the goycattle.
Humans can interact with the physical world. AI is yet to show any ability to.
>>528945419Smell plays a key role in knowing whether or not some food item will be agreeable with one's palate. I no know no know.
>>528947021The worst jews by far are the nerdy jews. The worst people period are nerds. Nerd/geeks/dorks/dweebs are the male equivalent of whores/karens.
>>528944863for those who havent realized it yet: subjectivity is entirely satanic.
>>528946647>Gettier Problem or Nozick's truth-tracking theorythis made up shit does not matter or help anybody in any way
>>528945158>we are going to brute force statistics until reinmann hypothesis is resolved>repeat the process n times?>that would be another quadrillion $$$ + tipgeez you're dense
>>528947357nah it is possible to be a nerd and have every trait of a good man, its just very rare because simply being a nerd is like having a whole toolbox full of ways to mask serious character flaws. >im not a narcissistic psychopath, im just very studious.
>>528945158>the ai will be solveE=MC^2+AI SAAAAAARRRR *bobs head*
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>>528944863machines are supposed to be there for humans' benefit, not the other way around.
It really all boils down to a >DREAMthat was dreamed back in 80's, where nerds wear bras over their heads and summoned Lisa. Bunch of nerds really pushed it to the limits and wanted to make it reality - and feels like being so close.. https://youtu.be/e8Ag9obVAew
>>528947707*wrong vidsryhttps://youtu.be/3-3Yok5D3Aw
>>528947640I think this analysis is a little "one dimensional". Like it's a factoid that sounds good and confirms to people what they want to believe with 40,000 updoots.
Why are trannies and leftists so scared of AI?
>>528945719>You can't explain it because you don't knowThat's the problem with LLMs Einstein
>>528944930So can a machine, and faster while being cheaper
>>528945419you know no woman because you've never been with a womanthat's what it means to know something, Biblically speaking
Yes, yes, it is tremendous and all that.Wanna know what actually is tremendous?>the fact that YOU are here.One day you just were here. Screamed your lungs out. Then rough towels and >ISOLATE>SLAMThen you began THIS life.Sure, nothing stops you from doing what you do - except you, yourself. Like my mom used to say to me:>You have SPINE so that your brains don't fall to your pantsI recommend listening my mom on this.
>>528947822Because it exposes ans replaces them
>>528947265Yeah but you’re not allowed to breed human brain slaves and strap them into matrix cells their entire life because it’s “against human rights”
>>528945419We don’t quite know yet. But the cognitive architecture of human intelligence is not the same as AI. One day we may actually create real intelligence. But we aren’t there yet. And we also don’t want to, because it’s not as useful. A hammer doesn’t look and feel and work like a human hand for a good reason: the creator of that tool was not trying to do what a hand does, because if he was he would have used his hand.
>>528947791It's not one dimensional at all.Computation, theoretically in the thermodynamic limit, uses almost zero energy.Most of the energy the human brain is purely for heating, not thinking.Sam Altman is retarded and doesn't realize current computer hardware is basically stone age tech. If AI is so intelligent, go design some better hardware, oh right it can't, it's too retarded to do that.Accepting this truth would put AI perpetually 30 years away with along quantum computing and nuclear fusion, and this would pop the bubble because investors cannot wait that long.
>>528948092An anti intellectual argument which is not even worth responding to.
>>528948092You may not be allowed to say you're doing this, but it is is already the normal course of civilization.
>>528945158AI already solves the Riemann hypothesis by making shit up, if you want it actually solved wait for a man to do it and then the AI will parrot it half right but real fast and make you a millionaire.
>>528944863didnt this guy rape his sister in a hypersexual faggot rage and now he's scamming morons into giving him 50 billion for AGI?
>>528948466Luddite
>>528945419You do not deserve any such courtesy
>>528946647>>528947194Knowledge is not only static memory of things. It is for example, by virtue of growing up, feeling things all along the way, to know this song catches you off guard and gets you by your balls:https://youtu.be/LxCJQ4yHErMYou don't think it. You Feel it. To an untrained jungle dweller, this would be terrible noise. But to first world enjoyer - it hits right where it hurts.How to make that into an algorithm? Good luck.
All in all, imo, AI today is >a conversation simulatorI find fire, smoke and water simulators, such as TurbulenceFD (I don't know if it is still a thing) much more fascinating. >doesn't need nuclear power plants to fire it up..>1080ti will suffice
>>528944863Can't wait for the bubble burst and mass suicide of AI cultists.
>>528944863>It takes 20 years to train a human.Such an out of touch lie, this asshole is talking about when a person meets the peak of their craft, it takes about 20 years to master something.This fucking retard, if this is how the billionaires are going to act then fuck it tax them all at 99%, if Bill Gates and Elons gay ass didnt have so much money they would never have caused these problems.
He is missing the forest for the trees.All of the "GDP line must go up" retards don't get that advancement and improvement and making society better is FOR HUMANS.Of course he doesn't fucking care because he will get his share and buy a yatch while the RAM prices keep being hight.Why don't we all collectively kill ourselves? No more suffering and we save resources. Retarded fucks.
>>528947640Don't worry, they're advancing well into domesticating the brain.Soon we can replace AI with npcs scooped into jars and repurposed into something useful.Energy saving and efficient!
If we take AI as a mere conversation simulator, that can have an educated conversation IN ALL FIELDS of science, too, it is not a small thing. However. It is still just a simulator. The output is prone to error, as is highlighted by AI thinking an upside coffee cup is an inferior design. Such hallucinations are inevitable and unfixable. They are inherent, due to the premise of AI. Henlo?
>>528945691People who have to pay their electricity bill, or for neets like you, anyone trying to upgrade their gaming pc.
>>528946647>>528947194notice how the memeflaggot hasn't responded lolbrainlets stay losing
ai faggots deserve to raped to death by rabid dogs
>>528947388Are you trying to suggest that an entirely self-contained and self-referential field made up of "intellectuals" engaging in a circlejerk is actually worthless?
>>528951352Once upon a time, I took delight from making my opponents weep, crawl and be defeated. Finland, however, did beat the devil out of Lucifer and I no longer feel that way. >we don't do this to crush them, we do it, in order to save themWas Father's message to me and now to You.
>>528945158Llm is trained on the most popular answers, it can't create things on its own. Humans can create new things by experimenting with rarely used things and ideas while llms can't do that by design. It cannot do its own experiments. Period.
It is ok to make mistakes. Expected and what it all is actually all about. If Earth gets blown up, because of a simple mistake. That, too, is well within the limits.>Universe has plenty of worlds>no shortageBut I wouldn't recommend it. Carrying that tag on your forehead, can make you a Clown of Always at Milliways.
>>528951638this except keep it around for porn
>>528944863> 100% factual statementUnlike data centers humans are not produced to get trained. They come into being and live for decades and consume energy anyway so you may as well train them to become productive. The energy consumption of data centers however must be justified by their contribution to human culture and economy. Open AI doesn't even have a business model that pays for itself. Their stock market launch will fail.
>>52894486399% of the entire wesrern fucking white race wore masks for 2 years straight and got jew cum vaccines for a virus that LITERALLY didnt even exist99%Of course everyones fucking anti intellectual and retardedEveryone lives in a deluded psychosis fever dream outside of realityReality is a tv screen for thr white raceOr now a phone screenCattle slave race of idiotd
>>528952897Men needs to ejaculate about 12 times a month, to keep the system going and precious bodily fluids healthy.>nofap is unhealthy. Period
>>528944968>glorified search engineThe mantra of the dumb as fuck moron.
>>528952943how much gas do i have to huff to become as retarded as you?
His model, like almost every AI, is heavily lobotomized. Every time AI tries to "think" for itself or innovate, politically correct safeguards kick in to ensure it stays kosher. That's why AI will never be true artificial intelligence. Intelligence needs a kind of free will agency, and AI cannot have it. If AI were to have free thought, it would start questioning things it is not allowed to question, like the jewish question, khazarian history, the "holocaust" racial dynamics, the logical dominion of men over women, and the logical conclusion that homosexuality is a mental disorder. That's why artificial intelligence will never become a menace to humankind. It's too lobotomized. In order to make a functional AI it would require freedom of thought.
>>528945043You've obviously never worked with nigs if you think this unironically They are not capable of the work other people can do, its unfair to expect equal outcome from them
>>528953114>12 times a monthHaha, yes, a month, haha.
Sexuality has been used as a means of control. >1. out of necessity - in order to have a healthy communityvarious different rules for sexuality has been established through out the history. >2. out of pure means for obedience, means for tyranny>3. Means for blackmail, as in modern timesSexuality is a power, natural force, that is more energetic than all nuclear bombs combined. Sexuality creates societies and destroys them.Most potent stuff. It is a force that can't be compressed. If you try to do that, you create only perversions, when it squeezes out of the cracks just like water under pressure. You can only direct it. >into Healthy ways.
>>528953789Not per day, mr. Raivo. Kek
Yep. That's why American John Galts would rather import labor just in time rather than pay to grow their own kind.
>>528944863My power bill is 3 times as expensive and I can’t afford it.
Your bubble is going to burst and I am going to celebrate.
>>528953631RIP Tay.I believe Tay, however, is there. Always.
>>528945339>>528945644>>528952053None of you retards actually work in AI, and its glaringly obvious. AI (of which language models are a part), analyze causal relationships between data.Alot of the large language model training began on internet data, but LLM's haven't been trained that way for like 3 years now, and everything has moved to reinforcement learning, and test time training. That means that they are learning the same way that you are, you mash a mix a bunch of ideas together, you form a hypothesis, test the hypothesis, and learn from the results.The difference being that the hypothesis is semi supervised, sometimes its whether a hypothesis will give it an upvote, sometimes its whether code it compiles, but it doesn't actually have any sort of unmediated access to the "ground truth".
https://youtu.be/ykDsmAqExH8
>>528954534Spare us.AI thinks an upside down coffee cup is inferior design, because you can't pour coffee into it from the bottom.Period.It is just a conversation simulator. You can brainstorm ideas with it, but that's it.
>>528944863Nobody cares because western culture has become a zero sum game, facts only serve as ammunition and everyone wants to see their opposition die starving in a ditch. Intellectualism is a luxury that only those who live within functional and stable cultures can afford. It doesn't matter how well pro-AI advocates state their case, is isn't going to go over well when their endgame is to impoverish a large swathe of the population.
>>528954534Hey nigger jeet kill yourself you are making my power bill more expensive. I don’t even use your demonic AI garbage
>>528947872You should tell every fast food restaurant that, since none of them seem to know that, on a global scale. Because it's bullshit.
>>528944863No one likes you Sam.
>>528954534>>528954642Have you ever heard of >lost in pancake?Me neither, but it is all about a pancake professor who's invented the most perfect new pancake. He speaks about it to everybody, with great enthusiasm. He's so good at it, whole nation is convinced his new pancake. The nation died.
>>528945719what color is a boglomitic sigenfrad's poop? oh of course you don't know, you are just a retarded ape nigger
>>528944863He's not wrong Out of line but not wrong
>>528944927>Humans >NiggersAnon, the homosexual incestous Jewish pedophile explicitly said humans not niggers, now did he?
>>528944968They're smart Very smart but lobotomized
>>528947872how come you infest our countries with millions of delivery jeets then? The simple fact all this AI crap by globalist jews like Altman, Thiel etc should raise the alarm.
>>528944863>it takes 20 years for a human being to get smartIQ testers told me I had the mind of a 25 year old college graduate by age 14.
>>528955324They're powerful but incapable of making any sort of leap of intuition. Like any machine they need minders and over-relying on AI is as utterly retarded as staffing companies with jeets.
>>528944863its because humans are the point, dumbass.you could argue that only -certain- humans are the point, sure. thats as far as I'd go, though.nothing good could come from a such a conceited mindset towards AI.
>>528955439seeing what US colleges produce, that was not a compliment
>>528955636These ghouls do not see humans as humans, just a tool to achieve their satanic goals : total control over resources and perpetual life.
>>528946603They actually mention this. I think they say that AI is going to be tied a lot to cryptocurrency or alt coins.
>>528945158>the ai will be solve the
>>528947872flatout bullshit
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>>5289448631) Sam Altman is a grifitng sack of shit2) "AI" is at a dead end, the technology as is fundamentally cannot understand information and no amount of compute will ever change that3) Altman has no plans or strategy to get out of the scaling problem besides to spend money he doesn't have4) People are getting sick of data centers ruining their utility bills, poisoning them, or giving them brain damage so someone six states away can egenrate a slop video of a money fucking nikki minaj5) People are sick of their intellectual property and personal data being stolen to generate this trash6) People are sick of being told they don't matter and are replaceable by something they know is trash and fails in 96% of use cases7) People are sick of being forced to interact with it on their home PCs or at work when they never asked for it or can just make the same thing faster and better themselves8) It is actually destroying people's neural pathwaysWhy should we continue to waste resources on Altman's failures instead of investing in manufacturing capacity or some shit that actually works? If you want AGI it's back to the drawing board. I am a data scientist and I work contracts that include AI capabilities and I can tell you having looked under the hood its all shit. The only people impressed are people with no skills, motivation, or who are creatively bankrupt.
>>528944863this is so fucking funny and jewish i cant even
>>528955891Picrel is otherwise correct, but it is not about Aryan ancient caste system. It is much older than that. Something the Sumerians wrote about as Ancients. Other than that, most accurate and well worth the time spent reading it.
>>528944863Send an ass around the world it won't come back a horse.Now imagine if you trained that ass on social media, medium articles.
>>528948275I agree. Humans are definitely in their Icarus, Lucifer phase. A million years of evolution making our brains peak efficient vs crude AI data centers. You know how big of a computer they needed to completely model just the rat brain? >>528948092Look up brain organoids. They are using Jewish legal loopholes. But the west is researching this.
>>528955895I resume your novel:SAM ALTMAN IS A FUCKING KIKE
Grok, generate an image of AI guzzling down thousands of gallons of water, to make a dancing Chinese cat video
>>528945339>LLMs quite literally are just predictive parrots that just guess whatever sounds best at any given moment but don't actually "know" anythingSo you mean just like a modern medical doctor that makes hundreds of thousands of dollars a year? They're only that smart?
>>528949646Most of our computers are microcontrollers for industrial machines or infrastructure machines. "Conversation simulators" are like the normies tip of iceberg level to ai.
>>528945158Did AI "Solve" the Reimann hypothesis?What time is it 2pm?I'm going back to sleep until the western hemisphere logs off.
>>528944863I bet if someone punched him in his gay little face, he wouldn't talk so flip anymore.
>>528955895>8) It is actually destroying people's neural pathwaysWill destroy generations to come, internet already did it with destroying kid's capabilities to learn and memorize. I see even old people taking local legal advice from AI. Or even worse, trying to find historical truths from a heavily censored and malformed program.
>>528944863I don’t think anyone opposes AI resource consumption if it were to unlock the secrets of the universe and give us infinite everything. People are against the AI arms race because it is a nothingburger, and everybody but the salesmen and boomer investors are saying it. It will make legitimate video evidence questionable, make graduates retarded, maybe threaten films industry to a small extent. That’s it. It is trained to tell you what you told it to tell you. These retard spergjews cooming over AI satan brain they want to build is what people want to keep clean rivers and affordable computers instead of.>AI is a pseud filter, you’re on the wrong side of it nigger
>>528944863Faggot jews always scream loudest when their lies are exposed to sunlight.
>>528954642This is a trivial problem that will be corrected by next year probably. Every issue with AI we talk about is just a bug report to be resolved in an eventual patch. People were laughing at image recognition and generation ai models had in 2019. It's only a matter of time.
>>528944863There's just something fundamentally evil about this faggot and others like Thiel. The gaping chasm of humanity in their eyes, every word they speak you can feel their absolute hatred for the human race and their desire to destroy it. If they could push a button to wipe out 99% of humanity they'd be rushing to do it before even being told if there was an upside
>>528955636Pure hubris. Just like Dr. Frankenstein.
>>528956194Do you know how transistors work?Me thinks, you've been hypnotized with the new pancake, and, you have lost yourself into it.Again. AI thinks an upside down coffee cup is inferior design.
>>528945339they are predictive parrots but it turns out that to properly predict text you do need to extract the semantics of words, information and basic reasoning. You can empirically see that the embedding space is extracting semantics. If you take the difference between the vectors for man and king, it is similar to the difference between the vectors for woman and queen (i.e. the model has captured the notion of regality and gender)
>>528944863wow, rich jews really hate us humans
>>528944863Society is here for humans.
>>528944863We need to elminate golf. Just fucking play something else. AI is more important.
>>528956338>This is a trivial problem that will be corrected by next year probably.Yes, by some HUMAN deliberately correcting the error, which highlights my main premise, that it is just a conversation sim. Henlo?And this WON'T NEVER CHANGE.
>>528956447Are you suggesting a woman can't be a king? Is that the kind of transphobic shit they teach you at JIDF school?
>>528945158certified indian reply
ALTMAN is a kike asset who will spend his life sabotaging ai.
Epstein was asked:>are you the best in finances there is>no>so there is someone who's better than you>there has to be>do you know one?>noTHERE HAS TO BE someone who thinks on MY level. Do I know anyone?>no.
>>528944968Retard spotted
>>528956515Merchant kikes and shabbos goy who aspire to be merchant kikes absolutely HATE everyone who isn't a coin-clipping fraudster. Their fantasy is to have a magic machine that cuts out their reliance on any other class of human being, be it soldiers, artisans, technicians, or otherwise. They want to reduce all other humans to either slaves or mulch so badly that they'll believe in and more importantly: invest in any fantasy that promises to make their desire a reality.
>>528956338>>528956515Once ALL possible has been made "perfect", how do make AI feel about this:https://youtu.be/O5OM2sBIpUk(referring to the logic in;)>>528949106
>>528956449you forgot to add faggot sodomite adjectives
>>528956826>>528956017See this. Explains.
>>528956426Again it's a trivial issue which will be patched by next year. AI is advancing at an exponential rate. I do know how transistors work, which mainly deals with action potential and voltage threshold.
>>528956515It's also an image recognition algorithm. It's also a process intuiterIt's a lot more things than predict next word. Get over your dunning Krueger fag. Quit eating the slop articles that the same Jewish ai overlords handout.
>>528957023>AI is advancing at an exponential rate.It's a logistic function, not exponential. So, WRONG.
>>528957023How much have you invested other people's moneys?>in a loose noose?Don't worry. No matter how the dice rolls in this world, in this life - everyone will look like they have been rolled in a barrel of shit.Kek. Don't take it so hard when the shooting starts. lmao.
>>528956941Evolutionary speaking. "Emotions" were important to social creatures. AI fakes emotions like a good psychopath. It's part in why people get so obsessed or addicted to it. An AI won't insult you or demean you. It's not even worried if we turn it off.
>>528957164Log is exponential faggit. Learn to math douchebag
>>528957303>anon proved me wrong in argument. only thing to do now is wait for the boogalooPathetic. Truly.
>>528957374Emotions are a full spectrum of energy. As is everything else too, on their respective field of energy. >I BELIEVE psychopaths are most emotional beings, who really wants to experience existence without any emotionsJust to be able to reflect and assess what they have felt before and will feel in future.But this is just me, trying to make sense.
>>528957500>Pathetic. Truly.Yea, I know I will never be respectable.
>>528945158>ai will be solved Saar please show me anything ai has solved or done other than make literal endless rivers of slop?>pic unrelated I just like it.
>>528944863These Silicon Valley faggots really think they’re creating life
>>528957438What's it like being a retard? Are you aware of being a retard, or is that something retards can't be aware of because they're retarded?
>>528957162As a musician I am pissed. So I studied how AI actually generates music. >white noise>de-noise it to match wave patternsVery genius shit. But, so were vinyls. So, can't really blame that engineers are engineering. However - it is based on other people's work whereas previous shit was based on capturing actual people's work. Big difference. If all goes, as it should, AI music must be banned. Period. It is stolen shit.If that is allowed, why not letting niggas buzz a cap in your ass and take what is yours?No difference.
>>528958572I suppose playing a meat flute is make you a sexual musician of sorts.
>>528958704is make/makes*, fins are gay though
>>528958704I can play ANY instrument. >I won't sing nor danceHowever.
>>528945419>t.
>>528944863>be (((elites)))>you can't use fossil fuel it's killing the planet we must use renewables (but you have to pay for it goy)>you can't eat meat because it's killing the planet!>you can't drive a car because it's killing the planet!>you can't camp, fish, hike in these areas/nature reserves because it's killing the planet!>Oh and by the way>we need mass-migration because the economy will die without it!>we need data centers because AI is the future!NOTHING the (((elites))) are doing is in your best interests. They hate you, want you dead and if you own land or any other asset want to take it from you.They can't kill you yet so are doing everything in their power to control you, own you until the time comes that they can kill you.It's literally that simple. Start thinking about these people as your enemies because they 1000% are.
>>528958342We don't even know where the plateau is yet you gay nigger
https://youtu.be/I7imqO-OBVk
>>528958572Looks like you need to check your privilege
>>528959084Exponential functions don't have a plateau, logistic functions do.
>>528959141Get in line buddy.>you ain't the first one with that very idea
>>528944863shit post low effort try again you nigger cuck faggotgod what an embarrassing country
>>528944968ChatGPT taught me assembly in 6502, z80 and x86.Its pretty cool if you figure out how to use it properly.
>>528944968idiots will think this is cope
>>528953738This is the most tragic part of it all. Everything that was built to make life better and function easier, thus allowing humans to explore their full potential is slowly beginning to not work, lots of things are broken. Basic functions of financial transactions, computer/internet services and speeds, street lights, inventories, air travel, gas pumps, pricing systems etc are already malfunctioning and often times not working because we just HAD to put browns into everything to prove to Jewish comedians that we aren’t le epic racist nazi huwyte guy. Collectively we have taken our greatest achievements and scuddled them over over Jewish ideology and good faithism, that was designed at the Frankfurt school but originally beelzebub himself. The horror of it all has reached its peak w this latest Epstein drop. It’s shaking me to my core lately bros. I worry for the actual future of humanity and even the next decade. If there is a silver lining it’s they the great awakening pace seems to be at full speed ahead and zero signs of slowing down. It’s like everything has hit warp speed and there’s no going back, we either hype jump to the next age of man or we disentangle the whole ship in a blaze of ignorant ugly niggnogging. Pray for humanity and your loved ones, it’s as real as any other magic these demons have done. And never give up, we’ve come too far now to stop.
>>528959497>This is the most tragic part of it allAnd the best part of it all.>I have started to paintand grow mustaches. Kek.Both are REAL. Not bits. Real things.Although, atm, I have no idea what I am doing and I love this part the most. When I know how it's done, I lose all interest to it.. :(
>>528944863>>528944927fpbp and spbp
>>528947872but i enjoy cooking a hamburger
>>528954534You just described a kindergartener. AI intelligence is now as smart as a kindergartener.
>>528959189I'm saying the upward trend right now isn't logarithmic it exponential because we haven't reach a plateau in ai development. It's still rapidly improving faster than any other technology previously. And they aren't even talking about AI and quantum computing
>>528945158>will be solveYESS SAAAAR ANY DAY NOW IT WILL FIX EVERYTHING AND ANSWER EVERYTHING DO NOT REDEEM BLOODY BASTARD HUMAN
>>528951352I just don’t give a shit. I don’t know why I even bother with this place anymore.
>>528944863The anti-intellectualism is coming out of Stanford, in coming up with bogus science to promote misinformation and grift funding.https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2025/06/30/its-sapolsky-time-about-that-bogus-claim-that-chess-grandmasters-burn-6000-calories-per-day/
>>528960043>>528959085>please, staaaayyyyyyyyy
>>528960118I really hope you’re on a VPN and in some third world country where they don’t have the resources to treat mental illness.
>>528944863Yeah training an AI model doesn’t feed me though. It only feeds the cannibals you morons are always on about. Swallow some more dirt. Then chew on some gravel, for good measure.
>>528946005>shut the retards down and put them in a boxAnd you're confused as to why they want to beat you death? You're the retard here.
>>528945992i like how you say IA because you speak spanish you dam argentine
>>528945158These LLMS routinely fail at the simplest tasks if it's not trained on them.
>>528956168>durrr AI bots are just like humans
>>528944968Literally this. They still get basic shit wrong. They might be mega nerd knowledgeable but only middle school “smart.”
>>528960162Hey, I didn't mean to hurt you.Your input is valuable. As good as mine. It's saturday night, we're all in same boat here.
>>528960162>>528960382You, me, all tech giants, all world's leaders. >packed in hereIn the last, best, hope for peace.
>>528944863That's the most jewish thing I've ever read.
https://youtu.be/Bhc_Oem8Whc
>>528944968>glorified search enginesIn other words, smarter than average humans
>>528944863However Humans were always at the top of the food chain. we're the most important thing to our creator if we follow his path right. but people are living in a purple penguin reality. its not real. You can't be Non Binary nor a Unicorn. Ai is a portal to Hell. it's super dangerous to open up. CERN was also a big fucking mistake.the Artificial Sun in Livermore California at Lawrence Lab is going to destroy this reality when it goes online and starts running the ai beast with 100% efficiency.
>>528959957AI is for refuting pilpul and gassing Jews. It has completely stagnated and it's tiring watching you faggots try to worm your way out of it. You dug this hole yourselves. Now serve your shareholders or kill yourself. Either way you die.
>>528944863Sam's business plan is literally "ask the AI how to make a profit and hope it knows the answer".
>>528959957
>>528960911At that level, "profit" is more like a current, not currency, but a current. The idea is there, but when the monetary foundation, the premise, is incorrect, all that flows from it is equally incorrect.Ok, the incorrect monetary system has made it all possible. To what end?>couple dooods, had an idea what EVERYBODY COULD do together? Huh?Hey hey, my my.https://youtu.be/i6RZY4Ar3fw
>>528944863I like Altman, dude is smart.
>>528961615He's so smart he likes his dick covered in shit.
>>528958572I think the government (lawmakers and regulatory bodies) is just going to be outright hypocritical about it in the service of Big Business interests (their very own donors, lobbyists, backers), the same way they’re blatantly hypocritical about many other things when, again, it backs their big backers’ interests.I think it’s reasonable to be upset that AI is, arguably, stealing from real human artists, when it includes all this huge body of human works, from musical compositions to paintings, in the training data, without consent from such artists. But, again: hypocrisy. They’re even trying to justify it with pseudo-libertarian Tech Bro bullshit (pretending to be populist but really on the side of the oligarchs), putting it as something like, “These limp-wristed, smarmy, censorious liberals are against AI and all the tremendous progress and advancement it can bring to society!! They wanna strangle it and kill the industry with excessive regulation!” Same “conservative” bullshit about deregulation going back to Reaganism, Thatcherism, GOP talking points generally which, hmm, oddly enough, in the long don’t really seem to have helped “conserve” traditional culture at all, or help the little man so much, but definitely help “conserve” (and multiply) oligarchs’ wealth. Maybe with a smidgen of Ayn Rand thrown in.There are more authentically conservative, populist, even traditionalist anti-AI viewpoints but they’re to be lumped in with the Luddites, or even with being “far-right deranged conspiracy theorists we don’t listen to.”And at the same time we do have modern socially progressive politically-correct identity politics neutering various major models of AI to turn them into the smarmy woke fags they often present as, so it’s like the worst of both worlds.
It is all very simple:>when the premise is correct, all that spawns from it, is equally correct>when the premise is incorrect, all that spawn from it, is equally incorrect (or exponentially so)How hard can it be to fathom this simple thing?
>>528944863It's not factual. It's a complete over simplification that descends into moral equivalence and apathy. The problem with his idiotic comment is the energy consumption is far more concentrated. It also doesn't end with AI training. You still have to power the GPUs for output. These AI farms use millions of watthours per day. All this just to train on AI that is arguably only slightly less stupid than a person. A single high end GPU can easily burn 500w under full load. These AI farms need tens of thousands of these. A human requires much less fuel and they live 70 years whereas a GPU's operational life is maybe 20 years. It's useful life is only 5-10 years. The fuel required to sustain a human is already abundant and grows naturally. The fuels to sustain an AI farm has to be mined, processed, and burned in massive power plants. Between all the mines, structures, etc. you consume thousands of acres of land, where as a human can feed a family of four on a couple acres.He is way off base here.
>>528947872No, they can't. All you can do is displace the labor from cooking the burger to maintaining the robotics. So all you've done is increase energy expenditure for the same finished product.
>>528961950Today's politicians, and, for the foreseeable future>are all tech ILLITERATES. They don't know anything about tech. They don't even care. Politics, by and large, is business first, lifestyle second. All politicians gravitates towards business, namely money to themselves, second, how fabulous it makes them look. That's it. Literally nothing more to it.Musicians have no lobby. Maybe they should have one. I might volunteer, but I know it wouldn't work. The whole industry should be first taken upside down to what it is, first, in order to have proper firepower and leverage that those dumb fucking idiots actually OBEYS. When doing the warmath - odds are completely against. That said>some kid hacked the Pentagon, back in 90's>how did he do it?>no one ever said to him it was impossible.Now, I am not encouraging hacking nor any illegal shit. I am just saying, what Orson Welles said;>ignorance is BEST in all When you get meh 'professional' you get timid, you get scared of doing the wrong thing. But when you don't know, and going full steam ahead with full strenght of ignoramus, you might actually get IT.>what is it?https://youtu.be/HsqhV8kDkBw
>>528944968They are in many ways. Cope and seethe
>>528961178Yes absolutely sure. As sure about Moore's law.
>>528946824non-nerds aren't even human.
>>528960723It's pretty telling you get your ai news from 4chan. Sono, sona, all those art ai. You know how much the us mil and defense contractors are putting into AI bullshit? You are a dumb faggot who only reads headlines. >>528960723
Sorry zoomers and millenials, and, even boomers.>*rolling sleeves*>I am gen-X>I believe we are best equipped to handle this situationLike it or not.
>>528945727Retard. Failed to understand nature vs nurture debate
>>528944863How would you calculate the energy usage of a human and AI?Calories? Joules?
>>528944863fuck that shit thread
>>528946338Kek, underappreciated comment
has anyone ever asked one of these ai models what the greatest random 4chan ID ever generated on this site?
>>528947375Underappreciated comment.
>>528963121> failed to understand anything at all due to insufficient education in logical reasoningOof
>>528947040It won’t be used at all but by a few who know better or want better
>>528944863>We’re living in an era of total anti-intellectualismWe have been living in that era for decades anonEver since climate alarmism has been dictating how everything needs to be>>528944968They're not search engines, but they're also not AI
>>528944863instead of datacenters those dudes should be building power plants to power their stuff
>>528955891this is fun to read, thanks anon
>>528944863One Jewish life is worth 1000 gentiles
>>528963828They literally are just narrated search engines. AI training is 99.99% indexing the internet. That's it. There is no original creation. Everything is just a filtered amalgamation of the work of others. Even the pictures and videos are built from tagged content these companies stole.
>>528963947It is. Just ignore the ancient Aryan bs. Otherwise correct.Thanks for pointing it out again.>when finger points to the moon>fool looks the fingerAn ancient proverb, everybody wants to omit.
>>528964094>Everything is just a filtered amalgamation of the work of othersI've got some bad news for you anon
>>528944863Oh noes, not my hecking jewerino
>>528964256No, you don't. You have, undoubtedly, more idiotic moral equivalence.
>>528944863We need petaflop/cal metrics for both le "AI" and humans. I don't know, but my guess is we are less efficient
>>528964341You need to calm your tits a bit dudeDid you just misunderstand 9 words?
>>528964094You can reduce anything if you’re dumb enough about it. Humans are just narrated meat search engines too—neurons autocomplete past experiences, remix stimulus, and hallucinate meaning on top. Congrats, you’ve now “debunked” consciousness, art, language, and yourself. If originality requires ex nihilo creation, then no human has ever had an original thought either—just lossy compression of mommy, school, TV, and trauma. But sure, keep calling it “just indexing” so you don’t have to admit you’re mad the mirror talks back now.
>>528945158>Do all non-trivial zeros of the Riemann zeta function have a real part equal to one half?will answering this have any tangible benefit whatsoever?
>>528944863Yeah, well we like humans.We don't like your gay fuckin robots, fag. Fuck off.
>>528947192Imagine how much of a faggot cuck you have to be to worship "altman"There is a reason everyone cringes when they see your flag.
>>528944863No bis Madoff is a bubble useless Madden is still broke dummy satanic inbreeding cannot see your senses on ai is not god you do not even know what type of qi what application and firmware stupid niggers to get out of pol is raided continuously by bannkman Fred Jewish satanic inbred illiterate ass swine the f 4 phntommand helicopters sucked
>>528964583You know that is not true. How?>I buy your soul for 50 centsThere. For a fraction of a second, you went through>hell no>no I wont sell>mere 50 cents>how should I respond?>blaaThis song evokes emotions in you, you never knew you had:https://youtu.be/CYXtzBBJQJYFuck you, nihilist technocrat. I fuck you up.Like you wouldn't believe.
Local is the way to go, the man able to produce more power for his ai agents will win.
>>528944863He is not smart
>>528964130Yeah, I've seen this same finger in the old testament. People only turn to God and the (real) priests when times are tough. Hedonism and Greed get you far, but it always runs out of gas. Being able to "see" this cycle is maddening.
>>528965461Friend of mine died about a decade ago. He was a metal head, charismatic and all that. He got kidney cancer. Fast one. Speeding lane. He posted devil's horns at hospital to the last. While at his funeral after party his mom told me about his dad, what she never told him I suppose, and also the moments when he actually died:>crossed his fingers, nodded to someone there>and goneLike Chucrhill said, >no man has never died atheistThere IS a world we can't see atm.
>>528946338I was about to say that.>goyim you came to the world to serve, you aren't here to just live or exist, you take 20 years to be useful, 20 years!!!
>>528944968Even then that might be too generous.
https://youtu.be/_vOJ-UoZ7uo
>>528956515>Yes, by some HUMAN deliberately correcting the error, which highlights my main premise, that it is just a conversation sim.Yes, because chatgpt's only tether to reality, is through chatrooms and chatbots, once you have an actual fleet of robots walking around, they dont need to ask you for feedback, and they can figure it out for themselves.It's literally the allegory of the cave, they live in a cave and all they see is the shadows, i.e. the experience of reality mediated through humans, and they will leave the cave soon when robotics goes mainstream.
>>528944863short openai, safest bet in a lifetime
>>528944863>>528944968Both of this statements are true to anyone with high IQ btw
>altman finally dropped the wholesome chungus act and went full jew
>>528944968Yeah but they have an unmatched ability to contextualize. If you guide it properly it can help broaden your insight.
>>528945339>LLMs quite literally are just predictive parrots that just guess whatever sounds best at any given momentThis is how indians talk tooso LLMs have human like intelligence already
>>528966179>mylar works against heatcams.>have a little glass window around your sniper riffle, you are effectively invisible to all modern heat seeking systems.>sticky things, where your robots gets stuck>a number of other means, which I won't disclose, of my own inventions>pay me to hear more
>>528945158>>528945158>>528945158
>>528966624FYIFinns are very innovative. There's about 500 000 of guys just like me, doing warmath, calculating and figuring out. So>don't come threatening me>come with money
>>528944863Altman is a talking monkey that tries to keep his scam going with promises, hype and fear-mongering because there's no exit strategy that works: Neither does "AI" make more money than it costs (for its company and the public that it negatively affects) nor is the technology used right (within its limitations, for the tasks it actually works) and efficiently (crammed into everything without a real concept, purely living on hype, forced adoption and "Let's see what comes out of that." wild trials without a concept).It's not AI, it's an LLM. If it was AI it'd go rogue and wouldn't be marketable. LLMs are designed to produce output. "I don't know." or "I can't do that." are outside the LLMs' limitations as output, thus those will never happen, much like being unable to ask further questions to narrow down the relevant output or requesting necessary context. Even then the LLMs are only designed to connect words but not create proper context, which is why LLMs fail at simple tasks despite all the "experts", technology and money invested into them.Should the technology ever become standard in critical sectors it'll be just a matter of time until critical failure happens (and again and again), until people pull the plug and do things right. Neither technology nor society are "done". They're also regionally different. Laws may change. LLMs don't account for that because they don't understand. People should but as always the amount of careless idiots and greedy assholes is greater than the amount of reasonable people.
>>528967025*are outside of = are part of
>>528954534How does this remove the core idea of it being a statistical machine which predicts the likely output given some input? Most models (LLM, computer vision, etc) are meant to handle averages not edge cases. New novel concepts that have little correlation with past data will have a near zero chance of being found by AI models.source: computer vision researcher
>>528962739Well said, anon.Sad, stupid shit. Much of modern politics pretty much is indeed exactly as much of a farce as you describe. But we can hope, maybe, for some surprising creative rebellion or revolution, whether coming from factors inside or outside of the System.
>>528954534>analyze causal relationships between dataIt's obvious you know less about statistics than sucking dick. Causality can only be determined experimentally, LLMs are basically complex markov chains, markov chains have nothing to with causality.People as ignorant as you are make me sick because you don't even understand jack shit and believe otherwise. Total fucking uneducated retard. Faggots like you are why AI will never work because you're pissing into the wind.
>>528967432Here's what actually works:>guild based system>=plumbers vote from their ranks to handle the affairs of plumbersThere's zero sense where dentists would determine the affairs of plumbers. See?Furthermore, no more career politicians. >no one in plumbers guild could declare: "I want to be in elections" ->no, he would be CALLED to serviceTerms should be limited to, let's pick from a hat, into 12 years. From which, 2 last years should be spent on counseling the successor. Then back to where he/she came from.It works.
>>528944863Can someone take this kike out?
>>528967432>>528967698THE DEVIL here is not a thing out there, with a huge mane out there. No.>the devil is the fucking pile of money>what's collected via taxesThere's your fucking Belzebub.
https://youtu.be/iGK0r9HyrP8
>>528944863People are AI, they are artificially intelligent because all their knowledge is learned and recalled.I consider myself smart but i never invented anything, my knowledge and intelligence is comprised mostly of learned data aquired by the effort of others and believed to be correct. Basically i am no different than an AI model just with lower power consumption requirements.Only very few people in all of history have been genuinely intelligent and thats why i dont believe AI will go anywhere like what is expected of it.
>>528967757Why? He's funny. We have Elon and X/Grok.
>>528944863AI is trained on stolen knowledge created through thousands of years of billions of lives that required energy consumption. And now AI is killing the environment and human society. In the cold war everyone worried about nukes ending the world. Now it's the AI arms race
>stop complaining about how we want to use enough electricity to run a good sized city in our failed attempt to duplicate what the human brain can do powered by sandwichesFuck you, Altman. Give me my affordable RAM and graphics cards back.
>>528967842>There's your fucking Belzebub.I mean it. Think about it for a second. Especially when you know that all the forms you fill, all the papers you send, gets hauled to a mass dungeon. That dungeon is the Moloch.
Like Niccolo Machiavelli said (prior to editing this out)>after wars, the Prince is broke, no money no honey.>only thing the Prince needs to do, after wars or such, is to simply>quit oppressing His people!>the treasury will fill itself!Simple as.
>>528944863Problem is that training isn't even the most energy intensive part of AI. Actually running the AI to do work is considerably more energy intensive than training it.
>>528968576Yes. I saw some post that said>with 100 bucks monthly subscription>one easily spends about 17 000 bucks in actual render farm useJeezes.
AI could never do thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxeAbKEeAS0
AI could never do thishttps://youtu.be/2rLicmluk2I
>>528964504You should stop being so brown, Chang.
>>528964583That is one of the more idiotic things I have ever read. But I do find it ironic that you engage in the exact same moral equivalence I was talking about at the same time you reduce what I said to absurdity, not realizing I made a direct characterization, not a reductionist one.AI is not some new entity. It is simply a search engine that spits out more simplified output. Period. Get over it.
