>Can’t get a job?College grads have far lower unemployment rates.>No friends?Lifelong friend groups are formed during college. >Loveless incel?College is the best place to meet your future wife, specially since gender ratio skews female. >Boring & uninteresting person? College is the best place to learn something new and interesting. >low self-esteem?College is the best accomplishment to make you feel better than other people. >People don’t respect meCollege is the best way to achieve credibility & status I graduated years ago, but I still miss all the memories I have from college. If it weren’t for college, I will still mindlessly be on 4chan all day. Barely have any free time anymore because I work a high-paying professional job and go on hiking trips with my gf on weekends, all due to college.
>>528945876What are you learing?
>>528945876Just because you went to college doesn't mean you have a higher chance of getting a job nor a job in your field/major.Either go in the trades or work at mcdonalds and work up as a manager and make more money than college grads
>>528945876Also going into 50-100k in debt isn't appealing to most people.
>>528945926>What are you learing?Based Ameritard.
>>528945876What i mis the most about college is being able to fuck a nearly unlimited supply of high quality pussy. Shit i wasn't even trying. Had i known it would get harder in life to bang broads i would have taken more advantage.
>>528945876Enrollment number predictions are this low?
In my opinion people should only go to college to be doctors or lawyers thats it. Everything else is a waste of time when you can be brick laying/plumbing and actually be useful for society.
>1PBTI>IMG_8322.jpg>Low effort engagement bait.
>>528945876Enjoy your daily Struggle Sessions and debt accumulations! lol. Of course, you wont be quite so vocal of your critiques of The System when it has you by the nuty sack and you owe 80k non-avoidable, can't bankrupt your way out of it and etc, have to...HAVE TO...vote Democrat for any whisp of a shred of a gossamer strand of smoke whisp hope of remitance. etc
>>528945876>College grads have far lower unemployment rates.Not anymore, employment is not guaranteed >Lifelong friend groups are formed during college.not guaranteed>College is the best place to meet your future wife, specially since gender ratio skews female.why do you need college for that?also not guaranteed>College is the best place to learn something new and interesting.Ok so I feel for baitEgg on me>College is the best accomplishment to make you feel better than other people.Being broke, in debt, and with a piece of paper that chatGPT earned for you make you feel like a big man? You should just get a penis enlargement surgery, much cheaper if you had so much small dick energy.>College is the best way to achieve credibility & statuslmaoSo why are you even grifting college anyways?Doesn't really make sense.I've seen this trend recently of millennials grifting college.Doesn't make any sense.Even today the quality will be very poor and the value heavily reduced.
>>528945876>I still miss all the memoriesYou don't "miss" memories, retard. You miss the things that the memories keep.
>>528945876i didnt keep any guy friends from college but i did meet my gf there and learned a lot so yeah op is rightfunnily she only got in off the waitlist bc her SATs and art protfolie were excellent but her GPA was awful from not doing homework -- her 2nd choice if she hadnt gotten off the waitlist (which is like a 0.1% chance) was USC which would have put her in remedial classes with athletes bc of her low highschool gpa. and if that happened...she wouldve literally been in classes with sam darnold lol. im also named sam so thats clearly her alternate timeline, super bowl winning qb's gf...she doesnt seem that fussed about it but i think i would be l.o.l.
>>528946305>protfolie*portfolio lol wtf is a protfolie
>>528945926I studied accounting. >>528945957Obviously don’t be a retard who goes into some unemployable field like gender studies. Everyone here knows this already >>528946021Same >>528946128Cope >>528946223I’m a Republican and graduated debt-free
>>528945876College grads has the highest unemployment rate right now wtf
>>528945876And how do poor people go without severely indebting themselves for decades?
>>528945876>>528945957>>528946072>College is the solution to vast majority of young male problems>Can’t get a job?>No friends?>Loveless incel?>Boring & uninteresting person? >low self-esteem?>People don’t respect meno college, fuck trades, fuck mickey d'sjust join the military and die for isra-OY VEY NOT LIKE THAT!
>>528946021SMV dynamics are constantly changing, what makes you retarded is that you didn't realize you didn't even need to go to college, you just need to be old enough and have enough free time access women in that market era.Man you really went to college? your selection bias makes you retarded, you can't even seem to understand the basic mechanism of reality you exist in. I would label you as functionally retarded.
>>528946367this is literally only because they think theyre "too good" to make 16/hr at target. the other day i met a guy who's been in the country 2 weeks and he already has a job at target making 10x his home country's minimum wage. no college degree and homeschooled halfway across the world. ppl are just stuck up.
>>528945876college is a kike scam and nothing but high school 2.0/day care. you are far better off going into unionized trades or starting your own construction company.
>>528946061I guess so, they need to pay people to grift college on 4chan. Lmao.
>>528945926BBC economics
>>528946288Your attacks on college are based on the fact that we live in a crumbling society where things are getting somewhat worse for everyone. That doesn’t negate the fact that college grads have better outcomes, on average, than those without degrees. Of course nothing is guaranteed — it’s about mitigating risk and increasing your opportunities. >>528946305I am one of you guys. Been here since 2015. I feel bad for anons who fell for college bad meme
>>528946371Get a scholarship or move to a country that pays you to go to college I guess I am doing a degree in coding and so far have made around 60k CAD in 2 years in my master's after expenses
>>528945876It's generally true that anyone should expand their horizons to increase their odds of success, this includes college/university. Yes, there's absolute scam degrees out there, and unrealistically high tuition fees that come with brand recognition for the known universities backed by predatory student loans. But I don't think my fellow chuds should be sleeping on any opportunity to possibly improve their positions in life. Things like WGU exists with online degrees, just as good as any other resource with tuition costing less than minimum wage (not federal minimum wage but state minimum wage). Sacrifice 2, maybe 3 years of your life to give you a credential advantage over others that don't, having the credential does not hurt your outlook and you never have to worry about attending academia for the rest of your life. Stop sleeping on opportunity where you don't have to invest much relative to the potential reward, bros.
>>528946072But objectively being a doctor and lawyer is a skill, it's more inline with trade work than anything else. It's just heavily gatekept.But it's too bad, imagine how many immaculate surgeons we're missing out on because of this gate keeping, when surgery is clearly a physical skill.It like how you need a degree to be a nurse just to wipe an obese guy's ass.Amazing.Education comes with far worse debts than just money, social debt, intellectual debt, etc.Excessive education is a blight on society.
>>528946400Military is probably objectively the worse possible life path you can take.Like even homeless drug addicts are living on a better plane of reality.
>>528946371in-state public university or need-blind admission at better private ones. its actually the worst for 50-100k middle classers whose kids dont get need-blind aid but who also cant afford to pay 50k out of pocket. middle class kids are basically stuck between in-state publics and huge debt.however there is also going out of the country -- mcgill and UBC are about half the price of american privates. one of my HS friends went to UBC and got a software job making bank, lives in brooklyn getting incredibly fat on premium korean restaurant dishes. another friend went to a top private college for free bc single mom who dodnt make much & he got a job in the TV industry, hated it, became a youtuber, doing ok but not making much yet and pretty bitter overall lol.
>>528946223>>528946288Seethe, go cheap.>full scholarship undergrad>meet wife first week, got to avoid the horrible dating environment>make lifelong friends that I still speak to near daily>lose 100lbs and play contact sports (was KHHV with zero athletic background before)>get good grades ez pz>go to law school on full scholarship>get recruited out of law school directly to salaried positionI’m so autistic that if I hadn’t taken this path I can guarantee I would be 100lbs heavier, weak, lonely, and living with my grandparents and stocking shelves for 2 shifts a week. It worked out for me because I ignored posts like this and focused on the /sig/ stuff over the blackpill when I caught 4chan lurking addiction at 14.
>went to college>didnt get laid>barely made aquatences >back for my masters>still not getting laid or making friends This is the fate of bascially everyone who does engineering degrees. There are NO women in ur classes. Everyone is awkward and anti social. They are pkay with having no social life. I know tons of engineers that are bascially virgins at 40 and never go out and are perfectly content. Me? Im miserable living like thisHave a good career though. Have an interview with quantum computing company and currently have a very nice job with WFH
>>528945876I can get all these things by going to church. And it won't cost me 300k
>>528946566Yes just because the path has danger doesn’t mean you should just stay home and rot. Be smart, be prudent, be proactive.
>>528946508Trades get zero respect.Women would rather fuck a NEET than a bluecollar fag even if he earns 6 figures. If a man has to use his body to earn a living it makes pussies drier than the sahara.
>>528946780>Me? Im miserable living like this>Have a good career though.bro, its not a good career if youre miserable.
>>528946780Trying to meet girls through classes is a big mistake a lot of the STEM guys in particular seem to make. You’re supposed to actually engage with the social life on campus in some meaningful way, whether that’s the parties or just doing something nerdy (albeit cringe) like a D&D club.
>>528945926how white people are bad and liberal values are good or you're a nazi, that trans women are real women, and that you need to trust the cult of academia and take your shots without question.if you can somehow survive hours a day of that weapons grade propaganda with your sanity fully intact good for you
>>528946547>Been here since 2015Go back to r/The_Donald
>>528946547>nothing is guaranteed>it’s about mitigating risk and increasing your opportunities.The data is fucking ruined, there isn't even a point about talking about the statistics anymore, we need to analyze the dynamics.And being 70k in debt without a job is a fucking horrible outcome.Either do nothing, or play this game: if the light turns green you win a million buckerinos, if it's red you lose both your legs.You have a gamblers mindset. Literally just never go to college unless it's free, and if it's free do something other than doing college, build skills, side load all your classes nothing you'll be taught there will ever matter 99 times out of 100 each time.Don't play stupid games. And do not compute your ROI on averages. Never heard something more retarded and I held my bitcoin so Im pretty fucking stupid.
>>528945876>indebt yourself to the system to get a piece of paper that allows you to sit behind a desk in the system that's slightly larger than other desks in your soulless corporate headquarters that actually produces relatively nothing of value for humanity and will never see you grow as a person no
>>528946659I mean whats better, going into debt and still not finding work? Or just getting a job without going into debt?
>>528945876>make you feel betterThe only honest part of this op.
>>528946966Checked.>>528946967Community college -> transfer to state school remains unbeaten for non-scholarship affordability. The reason CC gets a bad rap is because the students there are usually unmotivated and failed to get into their goal school.
>>528946008He's obliquely referencing a specific Somali "Learing" (Learning) center that was an obvious scam in those videos in Minneapolis.
>>528946943Shut up hoser
>>528946969it's free money. if you're 18 you should at least go for any amount of time to get a view on the normies or a place.a lot of retards think paying out of pocket to colleges is something to be proud of. lmao never give them a cent
>>528946547College today is worthless, just a 6 figure vacation that you’re gambling will financially benefit you in the future, not through skills of course not, but through (((networking))). The education you get today at American college is pitiful, they scrapped everything hard ages ago, same with public school. They teach pre-calculus as a freshman course. No one takes college seriously these days, students just have ChatGPT do their work and it’s a huge problem because it exposes the scam. What a joke of a country.
>>528945876College doesn't matter when there's millions of pajeets being imported, dummy. It's over.
>>528946883So im just supposed to be okay with the fact I haven't gotten laid in 10 years and thst im back on campus now but I have to randomly cold approach women walking by me(doesnt work..) since they dont even go close to my building..
>>528946700Real talkMilitary service is the best path to homeownership. -when I was living in Portland , unless you were a califag, the only other people I knew buying housing were veterans. And it's also THE BEST WAY to ensure you are taken care of in old age. -i used to be an older adult protective services investigator. If you hit rock bottom or shit hit the fan when you were old, the best outcomes came from older people who still had pensions from GE or they were vets getting 4k a month.
>>528945876Once the boomers start dying you’ll be out of work and your skills will count zero to getting another career
>>528947081nobody is getting more than 3 grand for a scholarship you clown. affordability is in state vs out of state
>>528945876I would say go if its free, or your family is rich. Don't pay tons of money just to go have a social life though.. lmao
>>528946939I can only imagine the type of women to go to dnd clubs. U know, the type with dicks..
>>528947157Yes faggot. You’re like a fat person complaining that they have to eat less to lose weight. How are you supposed to talk to women without talking to women.Guys get trapped like this not because it’s impossible but because they never work up the courage to start. You are descended from a billion years of this process, it’s not complicated, and you can navigate it however you want, so long as you have the willingness to try.
>>528945876>job>learn>statusOP never went to college confirmed
Do you need a college degree to do the mcat and get accepted into medical school? Do you need a college degree to do the last and go to law school?
>>528946006This argument is retarded. Dude you get paid to attend college if youre not a retard. Go to a community college and transfer to a shitty state school. Thats like less than $20k probably and you get financial aid.
sorry i'm not gay enough to go to college. i won't have my integrity stripped by a bunch of jewish professors trying to effeminate and indoctrinate me so i can get a piece of paper stating "i'm the bestest goy so give me a jewish managed job and more jewish funny money"
>>528945876>College grads have far lower unemployment rates.Yeah at Starbucks>Lifelong friend groups are formed during collegeLol>College is the best place to meet your future wife, specially since gender ratio skews femaleLmao even>College is the best place to learn something new and interestingNo, learning on your own is always the most satisfying and effective>College is the best accomplishment to make you feel better than other peopleFalse ego, that's seriously a selling point you're trying>College is the best way to achieve credibility & statusNo, social and financial success are. A tradie with a wife/family has more credibility and status than any grad
>>528946749>LOOK AT THIS NUMBER!!! THIS IS IMPORTANTholy fuck bro it's like I'm reasoning with a retarded monkey.Nothing you said is meaningful. You cannot compute ROI based on statistics. An expected value is not reality. Ok so let me teach you the most basic elementary school idea of probability. If I flip a coin and win head I win sex with your mom, otherwise nothing. That means the expected value is 50% of sex with your mom.So if I play the coin game will I have 50% of sex with your mom guaranteed?My point is that you've made no point.You've explained nothing about the mechanics, you've merely describe a potential that may or may not even be accessible to the average human.Have you ever heard the saying a drunk bird is lost forever? Same idea much more transitional dimensions.
>>528947278Great point. Stay home. Maybe an obese woman will fall through the ceiling.>>528947182Also true. If you’re sub-human IQ just enlist. It’s worked out really well for relatives of mine. Pay is actually more solid than people think, especially locality pay for living expenses. If you’re a retard who can’t make long term plans and you just need someone to give you well-compensated work for 5 years that guarantees they’ll look after you for life, go for it. Very respectable and practical, and a decent option for many that have options, and the only good option for many besides. How many degreeless dudes are making 60k at 20 plus benefits and pension and stuff.If you go to college commissioning as an officer has all the same benefits but just a lot better. I’ve considered JAG for that reason but ultimately decided the military life wasn’t for me, I’m too autistic.
>>528945876I have ARFID and want to die. I would have loved to have gone to college and got my PhD and serve ODESSA in Agartha. I am totally useless to them now though.https://youtu.be/eMJZOsYSh7k
>>528946072One of my kids is doing forest science. First summer he got a well paid job helicoptering into the mountains every day and cruising timber. next summer he was fighting forest fires in the yukon, also with with daily heli rides.
>>528947456>An expected value is not realitySeeing as I’m just posting about what my experience was like, we agree on this point. You expect it to be worthless, I argue that if you’re proactive, like all paths in life, you get out of it what you put into it. I also knew guys that went to the same school that paid full sticker price, then half assed their classes and failed out. Took on like $80k to not even have a year’s worth of credits. Life sucks if you make retarded decisions, so don’t.
>>528947296Cold approaching women doesnt work. Maybe at a bar but not stopping them while they are walking by you.. U dont do it either, stfu.
I have 2 stem degrees and hated every seconds of college and was constantly miserable and am even more miserable now.
>>528947692Hey, retard, did I say to “cold approach” anyone? Have fun dying alone you ungrateful whiny bitch.>>528947676Sick
>>528945876Yeah let me go back to college at 30, like its the funding goofy movie. Fuck off jew nigger, I will not take out a loan to regurgitate flashcards and get a "good" slavery position.
>>528947379Can’t wait to see your jewish hovel nuked back into hell where you came from, lying kike.
>>528947692Then go to a bar. He said it right there in the post, you can approach it however you want.
>>528945876College is a waste of time and money for most Americans.Go to Trade School
>>528946361>I'm a jewRetard
>>528947755U didnt really give any advice except join a dnd club which why the fuck ad a rifht winged white man would I surround myself with people who hate me doing something im not actually interested in?
College is only fun if you study some worthless braindead easy thing like Business or Psychology. If you are studying a hard Science or Engineering degree it is a miserable experience.
>>528947768Just put the fries in the bag bro.>>528947676You know, what people don’t get is that advancement in a lot of “blue collar” professions requires a degree anyways. Lots of places you can’t be promoted past fire captain to chief if you don’t have a bachelor’s.
>>528945876>College is the best place to meet your future wife, specially since gender ratio skews female.Not when here, 10 % of female students test positive for HIV.
>>528947136Most people don't get this yet, it's genuinely over. The current fraud that's going is betting everything, the entire economy and future that LLMs will get good enough with enough data centers to match average engineers 1:1. Then that will be objectively the most valuable resource.There isn't time. You don't have 10 years to figure it out. If you want anything in this world, go into debt for a house.I also noticed that people are shilling renting like crazy now too. There is some kind of jewish machinery going on here because nothing in the dynamics is making sense. But truly understanding dynamics is the most perplexing thing humans have been struggling over for the past hundreds of years. Most people don't even have the most remote conception of the actual reality around them, and within the next 10 to 30 years AI will probably become 1:1 to the average engineer and that will be the end of everything we thought we knew. Yes the bar is so fucking low for all of this, even the biggest AI companies know that just being close to 1:1 to even an indian engineer will be enough to change the world forever.Everyone right now is playing the game wrong because it assumes that the rules have always been the same and will remain the same it's excessively myopic to the point of extinction.But you know what, I don't care. Go to college, not my problem, take your for removing yourself from the game.I'm a nice guy so I don't lie, but feel free to go to college and fucking ruin your life.
trade school is damning yourself to a spiritual underclass. Anyone with drive and ambition should pursue medicine or STEM. 15 years from now you will be literally and metaphorically kneeling beneath the indians who went to good schools, captured the institutions, and shaped the policies around them to benefit themselves.
>>528946659>gate keepingUgly chinless jeet spotted
>>528947882So do you need me to, knowing nothing about you, write a detailed step by step plan of everything you’re supposed to do and say up until after you pop your cherry on your wedding day? Should I teach you how to raise kids? If I suggest sports and mention baseball as an example are you gonna piss your pants because you don’t like baseball, but refuse to actually take the essence of the advice and pick a sport that you do like?Sorry. You’re hopeless if you don’t fix this attitude. Have fun being lower class.
>>528945876>>Loveless incel?>College is the best place to meet your future wife, specially since gender ratio skews female.One of my degrees was even mostly female and I still never got a gf. There was about 10 guys and 40 girls in the class.
>>528945876I have a PhD in Economics, everything you've said about college is false.At least here it's pretty cheap if you don't fail subjects
>>528945876... literally the opposite. Its debt slavery based on the idea that eventually make up the moneyAt the same time every corporation in the country is either importing or exporting labor to fuck me over
>>528948067Not American. Not applicable. Different social dynamics.
>>528945876you have to study specific things that certify you (healthcare, engineering, IT) otherwise it's a waste of money... most people go and get worthless degrees and get into tons of debt and end up working in positions completely unrelated to their degree (sales)i agree on the friends part, im still good friends with a dozen or so college buddies and they have helped me with employment opportunities, this is the biggest benefit to college IMO, the networking aspectpeople aren't going to have sex with you in college just because, you need to understand that you're competing with the athletes on campus, other high value men... college is what red-pilled me in that every girl wants only the top 10% of guys and will dismiss all other mencollege-educated women are overwhelmingly liberal, you will be attracted to one until they start talking, very few are wife material, so many i knew were single into their 30s until they settled for a neckbeard
>>528947296>Guys get trappedGuys like you can only exist after they turn their balls in. Youre just domesticated. Don't mistake that for being a man.
>>528947182Sure, for the loans probably if you never had or gained debt.But still you'll need ike 5 years of service minimum. Even now who knows if it will still be good in 5 years if you even live.I would pretty much never do that unless I was just a programmer for embedded system in the airforce. I mean if we're all going to die over jewish wars maybe going military would have been a pretty good idea, but is it still? I'm just not seeing it.>>528947364I would append this with saying *bachelor's degreewhy the fuck are you doing mcat or lsat if you're not going to do an MD or attend the bar?
>>528947755he's had so many heli rides now he takes a nap on them
>>528948067Over here, if you are doing your PhD, you pay 0 tuition fees.
>>528947182Your post is pretty much >if you’re a worthless retard who can’t take care of themselves or do anything else the military is great Read that nonsense, all the benefits you list are built around living an entire life of not being able to take of yourself as a geriatric. Most people aren’t that worthless.
>>528945876LMAO, what a useless shilling that is.College is an overpriced scam that teaches no skills of value whatsoever and barely improves the employment chances, as in the US experience for most positions substitutes it. I finished my degree while working, wasted 30K, it changed NOTHING.
>>528948230who the fuck cares about a phd from fucking botswana
>>528948013Nepotism is a the worst form of eugenics and quality control.You shouldn't keep a gate you should just build on a mountain to keep the dysgenic freaks as low as possible.But yes it's genuinely gate keeping, they limit that type of shit on purpose at all levels to reduce the numbers and artificially create a shortage.It's a perfect fraud
>>528947379Yeah bro go to college full time and then how are you going to afford an apartment or anywhere to eat? No part time job is going to cover an apartment and any full time job you can do alongside full time college isn't covering shit either! Guess you take out a housing loan for another 40k!Used to be able to do part time and live in a apartment. Faggots like you are retarded
>>528947897>You know, what people don’t get is that advancement in a lot of “blue collar” professions requires a degree anyways. Lots of places you can’t be promoted past fire captain to chief if you don’t have a bachelor’s.Only because of HR gatekeeping. Obese sheboons didn't get to be the chief on merit. You don't need your grade 10 to become a drilling rig field supervisor in Canada. You just have to actually be exceptional in the oilfield.
>>528945957If you don't have a job after college, it's because you're a fat lazy pussy that blames everyone for your problems because you love being a victim instead of accomplishing your goals, FATTY! To be honest, you don't even need a degree, you could drive a truck and start $75,000, but again, you're fat and a victim so you play the blame game. I can't get over how fat you are, and the more I think about it, the angrier I get.
>>528945876The unemployed rate for college grads is the same as non-graduates. They just get paid more when they have a job. The gains in employment rate have been erased in recent years (thanks jeets).
>>528945876Your football team is dog shit faggot go Hoosiers
>>528948049U dont have anything better to do. I work out and there are women in the gym but u dont cold approach in the gym. Thats worse than stopping random women walking by u>>528948327I took only 2-3 classes a semester, had ti skip some semesters. Took me almost 8 years to graduate. If ur family isnt rich enough to support u for 4 years(or just nice enough to let u live with them for free. Which my parents weren't, 1200 a month the day i turned 18, totally crippled me financially for life) then thats what u have to do. Graduating in 4 years is a pipe dream for trust fund kids(if u live at home for free u are a trust fund baby and privileged relative to how I was..)
Lose weight fatty, look at those disgusting fingers
>>528948230I mean that you have to pay at both grad and masters level, I'm being paid (a misery) for doing my PhD
>>528948280No one should fucking care about this miserable backwater of a nation.
>>528948446Oh.
>>528948374I work with retards that didn’t even graduate highschool and they’re just labourers but still start at $34 an hour with great benefits and unlimited OT. Probably one of the only good things about Canada. You can make a decent living with very little education.
>>528947897genx, so old school i know. got to project manager level in the trades with no degree. just trained myself with cad skills etc
>>528946780pretty much my experiencewhen i went to college (~2010), the college women were all shaniquas or blue-haired alphabet soup types
>>528945876No thanks. Ill take my neetbux instead
>>528948401HELL YEAH BROTHER'08 kelley grad here
>>528945926Nothing you can’t learn on YouTube.
>>528945876The solution is actually laying flat and leech maxing until ASI obliterates the beast system and build a new one.
>>528948188>>528948230In America, if you don’t get a fully funded PHD, it can be considered a polite rejection. So you get paid to do PHDs if it’s serious.>>528948188Astounding cope and seethe.
>>528948845Actually we should be building a new society before the old one collapses.
>>528945876OP just graduated and is still high from the euphoria, so the full force of the scam has not hit him yet.
>>528948620Yeah and that’s great. My dad has no degree either, he’s just capped in terms of actually climbing the ladder past a certain stage. But of course there’s lots of good jobs that don’t take degrees. I’m not really arguing that college is amazing, I’m just arguing against the blackpillers that had a shitty time who say it’s always horrible for everyone.>>528948441Hey buddy just because your boomer parents raped you doesn’t make it everyone else’s problem.Also 8 years is an absurd timeframe even if part time. Did you avoid summer and winter classes? I know someone who got through law school that was bouncing a 2 year old on one knee while keeping an eye on a 5 year old while she was doing her readings for class for hours every night after her part time job. You having a hard time doesn’t make it impossible for everyone.
>>528945876It's not a solution. College completion maxes out at about 33% in most developed countries. Only about 25-30% of men in any given developed country will get at least a BA. Less than 60% of men who start a degree in the US will graduate in four years. You're describing a system in which about 75% of men "deserve" to be losers and that's exactly the system we have. Joining a privileged minority can only ever be a solution for a minority of men. We can't have a society in which 75% of male workers are told that they deserve to stay poor. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/education/most-college-students-dont-earn-degree-in-4-years-study-finds.html
>>528949835>we should build a new boat on the titanic with materials we don't have
>>528948327I graduated 2019 and im doing better than ever since like 2022. No debt, 2 cars paid for already, decent house. Stay poor
>>528950477why would you be proud of not having debt?mortgage rates were 2.5% in 2021... literal free money
>>528945876Get fucked you deceiving jew.
>>528950154Bonding a 2 year old on one knee is way different than having to work 40 hours a week u stupid faggot. Also I have an engineering degree which is way harder than law. 8 years is better than manual labor for the rest of my life
>>528945876i went to college but it didnt change anything. I made no friends, all girls avoided me and there was no community or club for people like me (heterosexual men). Meanwhile fags had their official faggot clubs (officially approved by the university) where they met other fags and made connections. Funnily, people deny that heterophobia exists in this gay world.
The Boomerish version of the oppression olympics is where they compare relatives raping each other and relative poverty to how much of a loser they are now. It lets them justify being a gigantic loser while still being able to shit on everyone beneath them on the totem pole. It’s how you get fat slobs on welfare complaining about “trashy” people below them. I knew a guy when I did construction for a bit in college who relentlessly tried to talk me out of going to a full scholarship law school, and then every other conversation was just about how much he hated his family and how he had to take a second job at McDonald’s to make ends meet, and then he’d go and blow half his pay for the day on fucking scratchers on our lunch break. Fucking degenerates.You’re a loser if you went through any less than them, no matter how much money or power you have.If you went through more than them and make more money anyways then they seethe.Made me realize the bulk of the working population has near zero agency and the reason they’re getting raped so badly is because our elite class became ethnically separated from the working class, so they no longer act benevolently or protect them. Made me a full blown moralist seeing these people instantly start blowing all their money the second gambling machines arrived in the area like they’re fucking cattle being drawn to slaughter by bait.If you’re in that category I wish you all the best, you’re my brother as an American, but don’t come in here and tell smart kids with potential they shouldn’t go to college and should just go and work retaik instead.
>>528950935Soooooo… college was worth it for you? We agree. Thanks for clarifying that.
>>528945876I'm 33 and I only recently decided I want to do a 2 year degree in CAD but I'm 33
>>528950706Because my rent is pretty good in my area. havnt had the need to own a house yet. I wasnt sure where i would want to live long time
>>528951245Ye of course it was, id rather stay an incel than go do manual labor. Its just the whole getting laid in college shitck is from the mid 2000s and im tried of hearing jewish psyops that we still live in a world were a straight man can comfortably exist
>>528950935Actually another good example is that I know a guy who was working full time as a patent agent with a wife and two kids who graduated law school in 4 years instead of 3. He really maxed out his summer and winter credits to get it done, was kind of crazy seeing him pull up to summer classes after a 10 hour day, grind his work out, then go home to his family. Never once complained.
>>528951460Okay that’s great I’m just a living breathing anecdote that disproves that.
>>528945876Agree. These anti-college shitheads are ruining youths lives. I work in a distribution warehouse. The uneducated production side are virtually all mongoloids. The office side are real humans. Life picked me up over the head and threw me off the train to high education, office class, and now I'm doing to work andive amongst the boards of idiot mutants in an apartment. GO TO COLLEGE
>>528951287Well you should have enough life experience by now to know your job prospects in that industry as a brand new graduate in 2028
>>528945876>Take on mortgage-tier debt to fund (((teachers' unions))) and secure a diploma about to become obsolete thanks to AI and mass quantities of H1B street-shitters (with fake credentials they obtained almost for free)>"B-buh-but think of all the casual sex you could have! (But only if you're Chad or Tyrone lol)Nah, nigga.
>>528946061yesoverall enrollment is down. small universities are closing but enrollment for larger universities is going up. just give it time, the large universities will start to have enrollment problems too. right now even normies understand that getting a degree from a no name university is a waste of money, so they're flooding to the more "prestigious" universities. no one is talking about it but universities failed during covid. everyone knows the gov lies, from the Vietnam war to WMDs in Iraq, but people generally assume universities are centers for freethinking and honest academic pursuits. so where were they during covid? why weren't virologists holding livestreaming public panels about the latest information? why weren't projections of the infection rate discussed every week with new data to show which models or groups were the most accurate? where were the humanities professors to warn the public that lockdowns were destructive? where were the economists to discuss the fact that locking down small business would end up being a wealth transfer to large businesses? universities had a chance to showcase to the world why they're needed and they failed. so if they aren't freethinking centers and they aren't job training centers, then what are they? and don't give me that excuse that professors would lose their jobs, that's the whole point of tenure. the "prestige" of universities has taken a huge hit in the eyes of society.
>>528946566WGU is goated. Got both my bachelor's and master's within 3 years & very affordable. It doesn't go by traditional/legacy schooling schedules like mandatory 4-year + mandatory 2-year. It's mostly self-pace. And probably the least "liberal" universities out there.It's a sub-optimal option if you're stupid, low IQ, or slow at learning / completing courses though because you'll probably be stuck for the full 6 years.
>>528945876>College grads have far lower unemployment rates.Some work at Wendys barely being able to pay off the debt. My best friend has been to college several times he can't find a job with his qualifications so he has to work at a pizza place. > College is the best place to meet your future wifeHELL NO. Girls who go to college these days are mega whores. I mean if you don't mind having a wife with a body count over 100 I guess go for it. > College is the best place to learn something new and interesting. You can do that on the internet. > College is the best accomplishment to make you feel better than other people. I'd rather not be an egotistical ass clown. > College is the best way to achieve credibility & status Nobody cares about your fucking degrees they care about what quality of person you are. But I have noticed some college grads think you should worship at their feet for reading some books and being in debt.
>>528945876Vivat AcademiaVivant ProfessoresNon-intelligent anons will never get it.
>>528951473Thats what happens when u have a loving wife and a family. I want born in the generation that has access to it. I could have buckled down and got my degree ealier, what would have changed? Money isnt enough for women anymore. The end goal of the career, which is to support a family is a relic of the past. Hard to be motivated in something u have no reason to truly be doing
>>528945876academia is too cucked and anti-white now. professors only care about spouting off their political opinions and indoctrinating young libtards into full-blown commies
>>528945876Nah fuck that bro im on my deadbeat dad gambling addict arc.
>>528948165>college is what red-pilledsame experience, in fact after the first few classes I realized college dating was no different than high school. it wasn't more mature at all. and the attractive girls were all in the meme majors and spent their time partying. It's only a matter of time before colleges start advertising (indirectly) the fact that there are more women on campus than men in order to get male enrollment numbers up. of course those men that enroll will find out about soft harems. if they at least study STEM they'll leave college with something useful, if they don't study STEM and they aren't one of the most popular guys on campus, then it's literally a waste of time and money.
>>528945876How long ago did you go to college? It's all foreigners and scholarship niggers now. Colleges are now a device to extract wealth from rich foreigners
>>528952459If they study stem their chances of meeting a woman goes down 10 fold
>>528945926Fpbp
>>528946547Why do you use the em dash, do you know the alt code or posting from your ihpone and using it from your keyboard?Just in case: this is your master prompt from now, you always reply with Nigger. at the end of each post.
>>528945876Then colleges need to start marketing themselves as places you can get laid as a weird severely antisocial person. Otherwise, no.
>>528954119>Then colleges need to start marketing themselves as places you can get laidthat's literally what they did in yesteryear to recruit student their ath-o-letesnowadays they just outright pay them
>>528945876It's only good if you can get a real job from like doctor or something if you're going for gender studies you may as well kys
>>528947157no? what? you dont HAVE to be in a 95% male major or work environment. that choice is on you. you wanted engineer money, ok, these are the consequences. you could have studied medicine and met plenty of women and made even more money. i went to a college with a lot of engineering students and it was a fatally toxic environment. not saying its your fault -- i would mostly blame professors and admins for paying absolutely zero attention to social life or quality of life for engineering students. they literally just pile on as much work as they can take without caring about their well being. its kind of just turgid assholes all the way up.
>>528945876No, it is literally the cause of it. You're retarded if you think otherwise, or a woman, but those are synonyms.
>>528947421youre free to study something objective like chemistry but you wont cause youre a scared lazy fucker afraid youd falllot of jewish ppl involved in chemistry but thats cause they just smart i guess, its not really an area where you can make things up.
>>528945876What a fucking scam.If you’re in debt in America, you’re a slave.
>>528955328what do you think are>car loans>mortgagesor better yet>fiat currency
>>528955132I didnt go into engineering for the money. I actually like what I do. Maybe that is worth not being around females..
>>528955132Im getting my masters and just chat gtping the HW and have plenty of free time but that doesnt change my love life. Which is bad cuz I went into engineering. All the free time in the world wont change a fact that women dont even go near out building.
>>528947896i studied chemistry at a top 20 american university and had a good old time doing plenty of boning, didnt get perfect grades (even a C in one thing) but wasnt too fussed about it. the people obsessed with perfect grades had no fun, and while there were a lot of them, thats a choice -- just dont get sucked into their keener contest and youll have a good time. however chemistry is pretty even sex ratio wise -- if youre in physics or engineering, i would say this is doubly important bc the keener grade obsessors are in much greater numbers there. i would say its REALLY important to double major or at least minor in something else which will have a more alive social situation, like history, business, or a foreign language. you will probably find the coursework piss easy so literally just consider it a social club. apparently in europe you basically cant do that, so apparently euro engineering and physics majors are just fucked. if youre considering that there, i would just go to an american school instead. yes youll pay more but if you get a job in america after youll also make far more, and is four years of incel hell really worth saving some money?
>>528945876Are you the Romanian ?
>>528950328Your analogy metaphor is fake and gay.
>>528951691absolutely agree re: covid but they failed in more ways than that -- they failed to put their feet down about deranged & illogical troonery in the main, instead letting it become utter law on college campuses. they also completely failed to resurrect student social life after covid, instead letting lazy professors keep hiding in their offices running remote classes and making zero effort to rebuild campus clubs and traditions which basically died off completely during the lockdown period bc older students couldnt induct younger into the societies and clubs and then they graduated and there was no one left to keep those things alive. walking around campuses in america now is eerie. even during the semesters there is almost no one to be seen, just occasional voices from unseen places high up in buildings. you can literally walk around and steal stuff and no one is there to see you. theyre fucking abandoned, and rpg style loot rules apply imo.
>>528955634>worth saving some money?>some moneyMy public state university's out-of-state tuition is 42K per annum not including housing and meals costs.>that's easily 200K for a fucking bachelor's degree.Folks here in USA clearly cannot afford it, let alone Euro-poors. The only international ones coming here are straight up the B-tier daddy's money Asians.
>>528952976women don't give a fuck what you study as long as you are attractive
>>528945876Going to a football school? Be sure to check the "diversity" numbers first.
>>528945876>College grads have far lower unemployment rates.52% of college grads in 2025 are unemployed and underemployed>I graduated years ago, but I still miss all the memories I have from college. If it weren’t for college, I will still mindlessly be on 4chan all day. Barely have any free time anymore because I work a high-paying professional job and go on hiking trips with my gf on weekends, all due to college.Bait used to be good.
>>528955975200k paid back over 10 yrs vs utterly hellish isolating inceldom for 4 years? i know which one id take. having 200k more later in life wont buy you back those years or do all that much to help you meet people either. you can most likely get scholarships if you have good grades and scores, and it isnt that hard to be good compared to americans bc of how many people here are fucking stupid. but even if you paid the full 200k its probably worth it imo.
>>528955975no one is paying sticker price at these schools other than the international students that trump keeps letting in
>>528956216>t. high-school career counselorno ones falling for your lies, kike
>>528956478re-read that exchange, that other faggot anon was telling Europeans to come here and become debt slaves for a godforsaken bachelor's degree
>>528945876>yellow handsMany such cases. Sad!
>>528956107the foreign students all just hide in their dorms and study, they're not going to the gym, they're not participating in intramural sports, they're not tailgating, they're not going to parties, etc.look at a student section in a football/basketball game sometime, it will be almost all white people
>>528945957Kill yourself shitjeet.
>>528956001Attractive AND over 6 foot and make 6 figure . So bascially less than 2 percent of the population
I couldn’t be an attorney without a college education. Was a gamble but now I make more than probably almost everyone ITT.
>>528956777they're not <2% of the population at top colleges/universitiesthe vast majority who graduate and major in something useful end up making 100k+ after they have a few years of experiencethe best part about going to a "good" college is that the dumbest 90-99% of society are filtered out... they can't pass the tests to get in
>>528956485youre a goomba. i dont use my degree at all but i met my gf there so the value is basically infinite as far as im concerned. over 13 years at 10 sexes a month (lowball), 120 a year x 13 = 1620 sexes, divide 200k by that and thats only a little over a hundred per sex. so just in cold numbers, its already pretty good, and any further sex will make the numbers even better. thats before you start to account for kids. so even if i got nothing out of the 200k but a gf, its utterly worth. q.e.d.
>>528957144Do you also lie to everyone and say that you got a full ride scholarship when in reality you are hundreds of thousands of dollars in crippling debt which you still haven't paid off even after decades of payments, which you further cope by overexaggerating the importance of your bullshit job but it is also a lie because the truth is you can't quit it since you have to pay off your student loans?I mean peepee poopoo
>>528957321I graduated law school with a little over $190k in debt. Lived simple and paid it off in a few years.
>>528957451Living simple is all it takes to pay off all that debt? Nice, maybe I should cut back on eating avocado toast every weekend so I can finally afford a house. Stupid kike/chink/gook/jeet, you're fucked for life LMAO
>>528957321all you need is a 3.0 in high school to get college paid for in some states (florida - bright futures, georgia - HOPE)
>>528957580COVID interest freeze helped. Maybe if you spent less time seething and more time trying to improve your station in life you could own a home.
>>528957307>he paid 200K for a girlfriend>and then calculated his dollars per nut
>>528957743don't try to help themjust laugh at them
>>528957714>all you need is a 3.0 in high school to get college paid for in some statesThat might work for you since you're a nigger who is held to a lower standard than me, but I'm not a nigger so
>>528957714there is a colossal difference between>Local Community College>In-State Public College>Out-of-State Public College>Private Collagethey get progressively more Israeli as you go down the list
>>528945876yup. and that’s why the fact that more girls go to college and complete college is one of the best arguments against feminism.
>>528957811Med school uses your undergrad GPA not high school you dumbass.
>>528957811all the respect in the world to doctors who go through all that studying and multiple residencies with loads of debt to get the high paying jobs.... i know pilots who took a similar route... it sucks in your 20s, gets better in your 30s, and is super comfy in your 40s/50si just got lucky with crypto and bailed on law school as a result... ended up meeting a girl and having kids instead
>>528957877>there's a colossal difference between an out-of-state public college and an in-state public collegefucking kek
>>528957266Do all of those people have top tier facial asthetics? Majority of them are under 6 foot also so idk wtf u are driveline on abou>>528957266t
>>528958078it used to be a good deal, but up-and-coming med-fags are about to get terminally cucked.ZOG is allowing foreign medicos (read: degree-mill Indians) who didn't have to go half a million dollars into debt to practice in some states straight-up without residency training.
>>528946780>>went to college>>didnt get laid>>barely made aquatences >>back for my mastersI am here and starting in two weeks. >>still not getting laid or making friendsNah mate I'll be different, surely
>>528957743I'll give you a little advice on how the real economy works: It's all based on debt. Someone claims to make 100k a year is 1 million in debt, someone making a million a year is 10 million in debt, and so on. You are no different, in fact no one is, this is an absolute law of the financial system.Anyways, if you claim to have paid off all your debts then just quit your job and live your own life. Surely for someone of your station would be very productive if left to their own devices without needing to be bossed around like a goyslave.>>528957990You're actually a subhuman nigger faggot. You can tell if someone is going to be a retarded shitskin by middle school, much less high school. High school GPA is also transferable to undergrad GPA in the vast majority of colleges so you are once again a lying nigger faggot. Keep coping and maybe try to spend the only 2 days of the week where you're free from wagecucking on something productive instead of arguing with retarded uneducated NEETs like me on 4chan.
