>Ukraine is the beacon of democracy and bulwark against Russian authoritarianism>also, no we can't have elections that would be crazy, nobody wants that
>elections where 1/4 of your cunt is occupied>the rest is getting bombedlick more ruski ass and die
>>529396224he's a wicked jew, which explains it
>>529396224Elections during war is the most retarded thing I've heard todayHow you expect people to go out stand in line to vote when there's endless rockets and drone launches?
>>529396224
>>529396224you don't know how important consistent leadership is during a time of war and existential survival.
>>529396224>>529396344>>529396369>peak democracy is our strength brianletsZelensky is a continuation of the Bolshevik genocideyou don't get automated robot world with UBI, you get jews
>>529396369>>529396479We have never canceled an election during a war though. Even held elections in Louisiana and Tennessee during the Civil War.
>>529396713Your country never experienced air strikes and drone strikes dumbass
>>529396798Ukrainians can and do go about their daily lives with air strikes and drone strikes. They are not hunkered down 24/7 never coming out of their holes.
>>529396398We here at 4chan /pol/... *checks notes* hate nazis>I made a decision to conduct a special military operation. Its goal is to protect people who have been abused by the genocide of the Kyiv regime for eight years. And to this end, we will strive for the demilitarisation and denazification of Ukraine
>>529396970They go out at their own riskGovernment asking people to come vote would put the responsibility on the governmentJust use brain please
>>529396713Wait a minute, you mean different countries have different rules and constitutions that they structure themselves on? No fuckin way
>>529396224>Literally no one in Ukraine is asking for any of thisThis psychic Jewish gypsy has figured out how to know what the public wants without having an election. Next he will do a palm reading.
>>529396344>occupiedlost. it is russia now
>>529397113there's no government in ukraine, just a few armed thugs dragging grandma off to artillery and minefieldslate stage fascist
>>529396369When Crimea was annexed it was already under Russian occupation, and the choices both lead to Russian control of Crimea. Then they claim 90 something percent turnout that voted yes for annexation.This is what happens when you hold elections under foreign occupation
I'm convinced the Americans just push for elections now in Ukraine to destabilize Ukraine even further.Never heard Americans pushing for elections when Mark Rutte ruled for 14 years in the Netherlands, until he got tired of it. Then we had Dick Schoof who was unelected and former leader of the secret service as Prime Minister. And we literally have a King, where Donald Trump stayed over in his palace. Which apparently was no issue at all.
>>529397702it's like how communist run out of other peoples moneyfascist jews run out of people to murder to obfuscate blame and then a foreign power sees free real estate
>>529396224But this is exactly the same ploy Trump hopes to use to cancel midterms. Voiceover: as yet, we’ve had several elections during wartime and national crises that had little impact on American citizens ability to make it to the polls.
>>529397113Uke government can put the people in vans and haul them into voting centers.
>>529396369When was the last time rockets rained down Election Day. Also we’re smart enough to figure out remote voting if we really wanted it to happen.
>>529396224having elections in the middle or a war is an unreasonable expectation.
>>529397724You guys held 4 general elections in the 14 years after Rutte first became PM.
>>529396479Our current leadership is consistently inconsistent during peacetime so it is vital we make it to the upcoming elections to increase our chances of survival in the near and long term future of our country.
>>529397711half the super powers went there in person to witness the election and deemed it legitimate>>529397724America doesn't have an issue with monarchs?Did you ever hear us demanding the Queen of England to step down? No?
>>529396224Ukraine's constitution forbids elections during wartime. Parliament would have to pass an ammendment to allow it. It's not within the president's powers to hold an election.
>>529396398wtf, i love eu, israel and baltic states now!
>>529398556In 2021 Mark Rutte stepped down after a huge scandal. But he never left office. He was in the interim government. And after the elections he just said he had stepped down so everything that happened before was behind him now. And then continued as if it was business as usual. Stepping down while never leaving office is only possible here lol.
>>529398512>no rockets rained down Election Daytell me you're pedorussian without saying anything else. LMAO, only in russia "elections" consist of just the election day.
>>529396369Uncle Putin will pause as he’s a very staunch believer of democracy.
>>529399047The scandalhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55674146
yes goyim shuddup, ukraine loves their little dictator, he was a clown in a tv-series, he's funny!
>>529398982>Ukraine's constitution forbids elections during wartimeActually one old law from 2000.
>>529396224So why is Trump cancelling the midterms?
>>529398528not if you're oceans away from all the bombings, fighting, millions of voters aren't refugees scattered throughout Europe and the world and some 20% of your homeland isn't occupied . It's the most retarded or sinister proposition to hold elections during the largest war in Europe since WWII.
>>529399407why not?
wouldn't Russia's constitution be more appropriate?
>>529399052I was referring to the US you boob. Trump will attempt to grandstand a “national crisis” in an attempt to call off midterms. My point was particularly sarcastic in that a real crisis such as “rockets raging down” was highly unlikely. Simply “being at war” shouldn’t take precedence over elections if it’s deemed safe to do so.
>>529396344Croatia did that during the war and everything was fine. All Croats fled the occupied territories so they just voted in their places of refuge. You know you can vote in other towns, right? You can literally vote from any country that has your cunt's embassy. And that was in the bad old days. Nothing is stopping countries from having online votes.
>People are just asking to be stuffed into the vans>They scream to be sent to the frontlines >They die willingly to be replaced in a 'multiethnic democracy'Yeah sure lmao
There is a war. Ukrainians can do everything but they physically cannot go to a government building and check a paper ballot. This makes perfect sense and yes, Zelensky knows no one wants an election even though Ukrainians are unable to leave a bomb shelter ever.
>>529396369>endlessWel stop hostinf ballot boxes in no mans land, retard
>>529399562desert people flinging rockets at each other isn't a national crisis
>>529396224>the people we've either silenced or forced into other countries aren't in ukraine asking for elections online!man
>>529399592All countries should have online plebiscites. No reason to let old pedophiles “represent” you
>>529396224Money keeps flowing in. They could have ended the "war" 4 years ago already but as long as these faggots can just get free gibs, eat steak and hide in their bunkers instead of getting to the front lines, nothing will ever change. Tale as old as history.
>>529399531>Russia's constitutionkek
>>529396224nice VPN, ivan
>>529399677It is all pointless because we will just elect Zaluzhnyi. Russia doesn't want it because Zaluzhnyi could be more competent than Zelensky. Donny just need the peace to start milking us and Russia, as he thinks.
>>529399877I agree 100%. There is no need to hold on to that relic from antiquity. Citizens should vote directly. Fucking politicians don't even show up in the parliament.
>>529396224How effective are these shill threads?They're always low quality and equate national sovereignity with random shit like LGBT acceptance.Especially funny when it's coming from American flags, are they begging to be invaded to get de-pozzified by Russians, too?I wonder how many people are convinced.
>>529396224Imaginary situation: >Texas, Louisiana, Missouri, Alabama and Florida are occupied by ChinaLet's have elections without those! Surely the results won't be skewed in any way
>>529400211you have no clue how parliaments work and what they actually do, do you?
>>529400556We held elections during the ACW when half the states were hostile. Results were skewed, sure, but in favor of the government. So what is Zelensky afraid of?
>>529400550>"American flags"those are russian shills
>>529400654Vast majority of his voters came from currently occupied territories. The west of Ukraine was voting for Poroshenko, who was the pro-war candidate
>>52940012>could be more competent
>>529399005we love cleaning your toilets too
>>529400550>>529400704ban VPNs then, you wont, faggot
>>529396224>keep the war going so theres no election>keep cokehead jew in presidency>kill more native population>get more american dollars to "fund the war" and buy gold toilets and mansions and cocaine.lol, lmao eben.
When are Russia and Belarus going to have their free elections?
>>529396369War never stopped the USA from having elections, you slimy kike rat.
>>529402031Does the US constitution forbid elections during wartime?
>>529396224Should they do Russian style "elections?"
>>529396344There was no problem having an election in 2018. You're just saying that because you know Zelensky would lose, just like NATO is losing the war in Ukraine
>>529401874This isn't that unusual. Without a term limit, a lot of leaders are relected for 15-20 years straight.
>>529397711There were internatiol observers there. Nobody claimed fraud.You are a faggot shill
>>529401874I don't think either begs for trillions in the name of democracy. Zelenskike has antigonized everyone at this point, I hope he gets killed as soon as possible. Nobody will miss that little rat.
>>529398982Zelensky shits on his constitution daily, faggot.He illegally fired 3 constitutional court judgesHe illegallt disbanded parlimentHe illegally outlawed parties opposed to himHe illegally kidnaps people off the street and sends them off to die in a ditch
>>529402106The US isn't a sham country like Ukraine with a constitution designed to install a kike dictator.
Why has Netanyahu been in power for 16 years, yet the US has not once called for term limits in Israel?
>>529402991Israel hasn't canceled elections.
>>529402031Again, US never had a situation where it was under constant air strikes and drone strikesUse your fucking brain
>Putler litetal dictator 20 years in a row>but it's actually extremely bad for Ukraine not to hold elections!What makes the zigger mind so retarded? Is it the glue huffing? The late stage alcoholism?
>>529403289Its like you are a broken faggot.80% of ukraine wants to give up. The only people who want to fight are those exempt from conscription.
>>529396344>elections where 1/4 of your cunt is occupiedYes.
>>529403568What if Ukraine held elections and just gave Zelensky a buff equal to 1/4 of the country voting for him? Would he win?
>>529401874America isn't giving Russia hundreds of billions. Ukraine is supposed to be representing democracy.Stupid
>>529403466You just make up numbers.
>>529403425See >>529403691
>>529399451kill yourself dumb zigger
>>529403425Putin has 88% national support.Zelensky was elected when all pro-Russian parties had been banned, and only because he ran with the least anti-Russian image, promising to deescalate the conflict (and doing exactly opposite instead).
>>529403691America is giving billions to Israel, but Bibi has been in power since 96
>>529403981vatnigger scum should be banned from any place outside of their shithole country, including the internet
>>529403425I don't even know what would the election give to ziggers? Russians don't want them as I know, it is only Donny who wants them. Ziggers are like zombies who just repeat by their leader, but can't explain the purpose.
>>529396224The US shouldn’t have elections eitherI hope Trump marches troops into congress and places them under arrest this time
>>529396344What country? It’s a failed state run by Jewish mobsters.
>>529403710No Faggot shillEveryone knows it>https://news.gallup.com/poll/693203/ukrainian-support-war-effort-collapses.aspx
>>529396224The answer to zelinsky is in picrel. He's right, as well. They don't even want to surrender. Witkoff and Kushner are chabadniks as well.
>>529404030But they hold elections
>>529403466https://www.kyivpost.com/post/69346The polls say otherwise
>>529396224Year 5 of the 3 day operation. Ruski are seething.
>>529403710>>529404384BTFO
>>529396224>Notice me Trump-sama, I'm Kosher too
>>529404494Gallup is a real poll, tranny faggot shillYour source is Zelensky said so
>>529403289We still would never ignore elections you filthy kike. We even had them during our civil war
>>529404494Wait how did they hold a poll when there's air strikes and drone strikes
>>529404494They're so willing to fight that they have to be press ganged and conscription offices are being bombed by ukrainians
>>529404384Some Trumpoid shit.
>>529396224Holding elections right now would be stupid given that it could potentially destabilize the country. This is because there are currently millions of Ukrainians living in territories occupied by Russia, which means that they either won't be able to vote at all or those votes will have to be counted by Russia. Either way you end up in a situation where the losing candidate can say that they would have won if those votes were counted or if Russia hadn't submitted fraudulent votes. If this is difficult to comprehend, recall how big of a mess the 2020 US elections were because of shady behavior at some voting locations. Now imagine if Georgia and Florida had both been under Chinese occupation at the time and there was no way to verify any votes coming from those states. Neither Trump nor Biden would have conceded and there would have been a real risk of a civil war. Why would anyone in Ukraine want to create such a conflict for themselves when they're already at war with an external enemy?
>>529404800Phones>>5294048191,000 people out of 100,000 trying to dodge conscription is pretty normal
>>529404441So it's not about democracy. It's about "holding elections" even if they're a complete sham?
It really doesnt matter. All the IMF is loaning them this year is 8 billion dollars. Thats barely enough to Zelenskys cabinet to steal. Soon the troops wont be getting paid and everything will fall apart.They have been spending 100 billion a year, 8 wont do shit.
>>529405524Two more weeks?
>>529405444Elections are necessary which are what Ukraine doesn't even have. You can't even vote Zelenskike out.
>>529406026You can't vote Bibi out either, kek.
>Ukraine is the beacon of democracy said no one ever except for literal MI6 propagandists. It was always a corrupt shithole. A little russia without nukes. War only fuels corruption so I assume it's only worse now
>>529406026>Elections are necessaryThey are forbidden here during martial law by a law since 2000. So should we change a law because Donny wants promised Russian money?
>>529403954>>529404064go dilate your axe wound and take your HRT nafoid retard
>>529406326Democracy has nothing to do with corruption. We have corrupt democracy but still it is democracy.
>>529402303>Zelensky would loseOh noo! And if Zelensky loses so what? You think the whole country will start immediately kissing russian ass overnight if that happens?
>>529406326like take a look at the US in the 19th century. There was corruption and slavery, the Gilded Age and social stratification, but it was still democracy.
>>529407079>like take a look at the US in the 19th century. There was corruption and slavery, the Gilded Age and social stratification,And elections.
>>529407343 -> >>529406400
>>529396713how many elections happened while you were invaded or entire states under foreign military control?
>>529407673Why arent you dead in a ditch somewhere?
>>529407774There's been 2 occasions when the US was invaded or had its states under a hostile regime, the War of 1812 and the ACW. Elections were held during both those wars.
>>529407850It’s your mom’s day off.
>>529407774England was bombed daily in WW2 and still held local elections. They had methods for removing thier PM even during war.
>>529404216>I don't even know what would the election give to ziggers?Further claims of an illegitimate Ukrainian government because "muh eastern regions were ignored/voted for someone else" etc.It's all about destabilisation and sowing discord with them
>>529407892Can you name some occasions when the USA went against their constitution because some foreign power told them to?
>>529396224Elections in a democracy are entertainment. You wouldn't play video games when you have to finish work in 1 hour, would you? Same thing with elections, you wouldn't organize an entertainment event when you have a war going on.
>>529408315Ukie constitution doesn't forbid them from holding elections.
>>529408315They can agree to a ceasefire and suspend marshall law, faggot.They had an energy ceasefire until Zelensky broke it on Feb 6th. Everyone knows if Zelensky wanted an election he could do it, asshole, you faggots arent convincing anyone.
>>529408505It has prescriptions against it during martial law. But a concrete law forbids it.
>>529408760sure they did, nigger
>>529408760>They can agree to a ceasefireRussia doesn't want to. What now? Your entire retarded argument falls apart >They had an energy ceasefire until Zelensky broke it on Feb 6th.What zigger media did you pick this up from?
>>529396224neega,pwease...habnocard
>>529408163were they under occupation? fucking retard.>>529407892aaaand would it be allowed today? if 20% of the us was under chinese occupation would you force an election? piss off
>>529396224Ukraine is the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe, even before the war LMAO.
>>529396224>nobody is asking for it>no we can't unsuspend elections or the other political parties, nobody would do anything stop asking>I WOULD JUST WIN 100% OF THE VOTE SO IT'S POINTLESS>NO WE WON'T LET PEOPLE IN LUHANSK OR DONETSK VOTE THEY AREN'T UKRA- no wait shit shit shit
>>529408760>if Zelensky wanted an election he could do it,Maybe then he could "win" it too if he wanted. Zelensky is right that Ukrainians don't want elections, even those Ukrainians who don't support Zelensky, because it is pointless.
>>529409494Based, I wish they cancelled elections here too. I'm sick of being mailed election adverts.
>>529409119>>529408949You faggots lie with such ease.>On February 6, 2026, Ukraine reportedly launched missile strikes targeting energy infrastructure in Russia, specifically hitting a thermal power station in Belgorod Oblast.
>>529409644>reportedlypost source, dumb nigger
>>529409644>february 6Meanwhile feb 3>The Russian strike occurred half-way through a truce on energy infrastructure attacks that was supposed to last a week, and only a day before Russian, Ukrainian and American negotiators are scheduled to meet in Abu Dhabi for the next round of peace talks. Why do Russian shills lie so blatantly?
>>529409644Fucking faggot doesn't know that pidarashkas fired at us the whole winter and a half of autumn. What ceasefire are you talking about, you brainlet shit. Fucking VPN pidor.
>>529409644you really will believe anything
>>529409941>>529410041>>529410045picrel is real to that shitskin
>>529409941Fake and gayI looked up that articleThe picture they used was posted Jan 24th>https://themercury.com/news/national/us-says-russia-ukraine-took-big-step-will-meet-again-next-week/article_735e7c32-5975-5902-ab23-b908d3b02fb5.html
>>529410700They used the same photo as proof for the fake feb 3rd atrack>https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-breaks-donald-trump-brokered-ukraine-energy-ceasefire/
>>529410861>the attack was fake because a secondary source reused a picture which news often tend to doThe absolute state
>>529396224>The last elections in Russia were in 1996.>Then came Putin's endless, rigged reelections.
>>529411195Yes tranny faggot shill.Its easy as fuck to post pics of damage if you want to prove you were actually attacked, especially if it breaks a truce.To say look at the attack then use stock footage means you are posting propaganda
>>529411451how do you explain Putin's popularity among Russians?
>>529396224When isn't russia having non rigged elections right now then? Why did putin modify the constitution to stay in power until he dies?
>>529411484>tranny There it is
>>529411195Donny can't deal a shit. Ruzzians just said that they wouldn't attack us until they prepare a new attack after previous one. Donny made some shitshow out of this fact, and didn't even remember this broken promise on the next day.
>>529411670lmao
>>529411804the people unanimously begged him to change the law, nafo tranny
>>529411865Yes, faggot shill.You are obviously a lying piece of shit so odds are you also pretend to be a woman.Why dont you go fight if you hate Russia so much?
>>529411865 you're a fag
>>529411969how do you explain Crimean citizens being in favor of staying under Russia, instead of Ukraine? according to western polls btw
>>529396224Ukraine is under a harsh dictatorship that's getting all of it's own citizens killed.>>529396344Yes, have the fucking election because the current leaders are the ones causing the war and all the death. New leadership is needed to stop it. Fuck you must be retarded.
>>529412181Absolutely no one wants that election in Ukraine you nigger retard. It's not a dictatorship, he's following exactly what the constitution requires him to do during a war. This is following democracy to the letter.The only people wanting an election are Putin and Trump, but they're not Ukrainian citizens so their opinions, just like yours, belong in the Ganges river with the rest of the Jeet shit.
>>529410349nice strawman rajesh, 10 headed elephants are real to you
sure thing, paco. whatever you say
>>529396224>WEEEEH why don't you elect a pro-russian candidate that will just surrender to Russia and allow its civillians to be turned into meat but now thrown at Poland WEEEEEHlolFDR ran more than 2 terms because consistency was needed in WW2.
noooooo muh democracies!!! so unjust shit that happend 70 years agooo
>>529411804He did no such thing. In fact it was written in a way that allowed someone to be a president for life before but he explicitly changed it to 2 terms max. He's on his last term now since the count has started anew after the revision.
>>529406982You're the one opposed to an election. If there's nothing for the reddit crowd to worry about then why oppose it? Let the Ukrainian people decide for themselves
Ukraine is a non working mafia. The swiss federation is a working mafia on the other hand, for instance. The Ukraine is dependent on subsidies. The moment it's without subsidies from Russia or Western Europe / USA, it will just collapse. Former policemen and teachers will receive no pensions, for instance. It will just collapse.
>>529415801Disingenuous Russian shills at it again>Prior to constitutional amendments in 2020, the two term limit applied to consecutive terms, allowing a term-limited president to be elected again after one term out of office>The only presidents to be term-limited are Boris Yeltsin in 2000 and Vladimir Putin in 2008 and again in 2024. >The 2020 amendments then exempted him from being term-limited in 2024 by excluding his previous terms, allowing him two more terms before reaching the constitutional limit.
>>529396369We're so honoured that you took the time to scurry out of your bomb shelter to post your hebraic nonsense, you kike rat
>>529396344What are you doing in Norway, coward?
>>529416220Yes, consequential terms but NO total term limit. That's why Medvedev was a president in 2008-2012 and then Putin technically had a right to be a president for 2 terms again. He changed it so that there are only 2 terms regardless of them being consequential or not.
>>529416220>caring about the evil sect of law at all in the year 2026
