It seems like all/mostly upsides for us Explain yourselves, without mentioning jews
>>529434194I just want no countries to have nuclear weapons except USA.
>>529434194Massive Power Vacuum, also since the Taliban is selling Tehran water, this means the Taliban can swoop in and seize Iran and gain access to their nuclear armaments.
>>529434194It isn't a bad thing. The idea of an Islamic fundamentalist regime getting nukes is a fucking terrible idea and the entire Arab League oppose it for very obvious reasons.
It's a question of>Can we topple Iran's regime without getting dragged into it for years, costing us trillions of dollarsand also>Is toppling the only country stat checking Israel from it's expansive regime in the region, pulling us into more wars a good thingUse your brain, burger.
>>529434194Who's taking over?
>>529434194We'll never leave and this will become another permanent drain on our resources. We're already broke
>>529434194its a great thing, leftists are just mad trump and the west keeps winning
>>529434445They oppose it because they're Arabs and no other reason
Are there upsides?Because the most likely outcome is the same as every USA regime change opThey topple the government and replace them with a tyrant who only retains power because of the USAs supportEventually they get overthrown and the new government is extremely anti-USAAlthough with Iraq and Afghan they instead replaced them with lame duck governments that collapsed the second they faced any pressure without the USA to fight on their behalf
>>529434445But they have no nukes.
>>529434194Explain to me why you suck cock and take it in the ass when there is prime pussy everywhere?
>>529434194>without mentioning jewsWhy not? I've yet to see a good reason to go war against Iran that doesn't a) involve Jews b) support Jewish social movements that destroyed white communities (Muh wimmins rights muh gheys etc...)
>>529434194“I denounce the Talmud, Torah, Tanakh, Bible, Old Testament, New Testament, Qur’an, and Hadith; any and all Abrahamic texts; as well as any other holy books of any religion. I also wish for the death of the worshippers of those faiths.”That's why you fucking troon.
>>529434194it's the only bulwark to kikeland left in the middle east
>>529434194Name one regime that was toppled by air strikes only
>>529434194Who is "us"? Isreal?
>>529434194>it earns us incresingly dead Americans>israel isnt worth 1 American life or 1 American dollar
>>529434194Yes, tell me why getting involved in another multi-trillion dollar quagmire when deficits are already catastrophic is a *bad* thing.You sound just like those who supported going into Iraq and Afghanistan. Some niggers never learn.
>>529434194It give Israel a carte blanche to deploy its Greater Israel project.
>>529434194always do the opposite of what jews say
>>529434445>It isn't a bad thing. The idea of an Islamic fundamentalist regime getting nukes is a fucking terrible idea and the entire Arab League oppose it for very obvious reasons.Then why is saudia arabia not getting turned into rubble?
>>529434194It makes our enemies stronger - the ones holding our economy and politicians hostage. They're in charge. They need to lose so we can liquidate them and rebuild the country in our image. With our people. Beholden to us.
>>529434194Israel is trying to annex the middle east in pursuit of expanding its own territory. Israel is doing everything it can to plunge the world into darkness to bring about the "messianic" age which is actually Satan.
A Persian gulf blockade will increase pricesPotentially unlimited migrants and terrorists if Iran becomes a failed stateif Iran survives, the US loses the perception of invincibility
>>529434194How does it help you personally
>>529434313Every analyst has said Iran gave up on weaponizing uranium decades ago. That's why Obama's deal was perfectly fine. Low level enriched was shipped out and everything was constantly inspected.This current BS military action is just being done for Trump's ego.
>>529434194>How is toppling another Middle Eastern regime for the greater glory of Israel a BAD thing?Kys you worthless mutt
>>529434313If anyone was gonna use nukes, it would be Pakistan against the Afghanis.
It’s not. The problem is there is no way to do it without risking open war.
>>529434194It was bad when you were worried Biden would do it.What changed?
>>529435717Analysts are paid propagandists. Any country that can complete the nuclear cycle can have warheads in a matter of months. That’s why Bibi has been able to say that for 10 years and been technically correct every time.
>>529434600>>Can we topple Iran's regime without getting dragged into it for years, costing us trillions of dollarsYes. The way to do that is bolster the opposition in Iran.As you can see, Iran isn't able to do anything to the US military terms, it has no ability to force project against the US outside of a very limited sphere. There's no reason to get thousands of US boots on the ground in Iran when the US can blow up the government from the air.Trump's outcome with Iran depends entirely on if he does support the opposition and help them get into power. None of us know what's going on with this because it will be classified but that's the way to do this regime change properly.It's hard to imagine a government of Iran that's worse than the current regime. The worse outcome would be if it became a failed state, which no one wants.>>Is toppling the only country stat checking IsraelAgain with the Israel fixation. Making Israel the center of your universe is a dumb thing to do because it's like saying 'Israelis breathe air so I'm quitting breathing asap!'.Iran has managed to get on the bad side of every other country in the region over the years. Including Iraq under two completely different regimes. You wouldn't have said Saddam Hussein was 'Israel' but he hated the Iranian regime more than anyone. All of Iran's military buildup for decades was based around fear of Saddam, not Israel.>>529434780They oppose it because the Arab league governments don't want a nuclear arms race in a region rife with terrorism, especially not in a regime that's been becoming increasingly unstable.>>529435603The KSA don't have nukes and they should not be allowed to get any.
>>529434608Ollie North
>>529434445EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE REGION ONLY WANTS NUKES BECAUSE THE ISRAELIS HAVE THEM BECAUSE THEY STOLE THEM FROM US YOU FUCKING IDIOT SO THE ONLY WAY TO ENSURE ISRAEL DOESN'T JUST NUKE YOU FOR THEIR INSANE PROPHECY IS TO GET YOUR OWN. THIS IS OUR FAULT
>>529435248Bikini atoll
>>529434194>EXPLAIN WHY BEING LOBBIED BY ISRAEL INTO A FOREIGN WAR THAT BENEFITS ISRAEL WHILE YOUR OWN PEOPLE PAY AND DIE FOR IS A BAD THING>NO YOU CAN'T MENTION ISRAEL IN YOUR EXPLANATIONlmao
>>529434194You think the Saudis (and Arabs more generally) are going to be a MORE stabilizing force in the ME???Until Shias and Sunnis can just wipe each other out and only one remains, the. The ME can stabilize and rebuild. Otherwise the region will be quagmired in sectarian strife far worse and for much longer than European Protestant v Catholic troubles. Taking out the Shia regional influence and taking out the Revolutionary Guard and Khamenei will just expand the militia/cartel Shiite feudalism even worse than the Iraq/Saddam toppling.
>>529435880Arabs do plenty of "terrorism" themselves. There is no principle here beyond Shia bad
>>529435188Christianity is true.
>>529434194I agree. We should also round up all iranian nationals and their descendants in western countries and put them in camps, iranians are incompatible with democracy.
>>529434194>How is toppling Israel a BAD thing?It seems like all/mostly upsides for usExplain yourselves, without mentioning jews
>>529435992
>without mentioning jewsIs this nigga retarded?
>>529435929Technically they got their nuclear tech from the French and only stole fissile material from you. This was because Eisenhower was an anti-semite and the jews couldn’t wait for the next administration to begin their nuclear program. And their nuclear tests were conducted alongside South Africa and probably France as well.
>>529434194Why does trump care about israel when all he talked about was "america first". If american jews are in a powerful position with respect to the media, maybe he bought the medias compliance? Jewish commentators are also very influential in the conservative news sphere.He didn't do shit for ukraine. Why is israel the only ally he cares about? I assume this has something to do with getting loyalty from american jews. I just don't know what they have to offer that is so important. Also the US really isn't much better than iran morally (epstein files get covered up instead of released, population is imploding and getting replaced, etc).
>>529434369>the Taliban can swoop in and seize IranHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Do you really believe this nonsense?
>>529436281It’s the same old “inb4 it’s da joos” tactic.
>>529434194This is just a preliminary war, the real war is going to be over Taiwan.Everything that USA can do today will be copied by China someday."how is toppling iran a bad thing?" Now change Iran with any NATO countries, or Japan.
>>529434932>Eventually they get overthrown and the new government is extremely anti-USAWhich is what they had there for the last 47 years already. At least as we can get a few decades of a pro-US puppet state before they try and overthrow the regime again.
>>529435248Libya.
>>529434194Friendly advice, Shlomo. You're going to topple them anyway. No propaganda is needed.
>>529434194>regime change in Venezuela >regime change in Iran ((you) are here)>regime change in CubaThe Russian bots here just can’t cope that Trump’s taking all their allies one by one
>>529436634The sad part is with Trump you had the opportunity to try and normalise relationsUnfortunately he turned out to be Zion Don
>>529435880>Again with the Israel fixationIs there anything else to fixate on? Lol. You've not lived in the Middle East. You know nothing about the region or its history. The entire reason Israel is flexing all over the region is because of the US backing it up. If they weren't being backed up, they'd have either been blasted to dust by now or forced to make ACTUAL peace and gain ACTUAL friends in the region.>Iran isn't able to do anything to the US military termsYet you're convinced they're gonna nuke you from the other half of the planet.>It's hard to imagine a government of Iran that's worse than the current regimeA government split into pieces with various group infighting, resulting in terrorism and more war. Which is what Israel wants. Iran poses no threat to the US, all you're doing is ruining a country for the sake of Israel.>Iran has managed to get on the bad side of every other country in the region over the years.So has Israel? Why isn't the US invading the country with actual uninspected nuclear facilities that HAS threatened to use it against EGypt and Syria in '73 and HAS been involved in MULTIPLE wars against Palestine, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon to this day?
Good luck OP. Pol is full of retarded Muslim shitskins now.
>>529434194>>529434313He isn't toppling Iran, and he isn't preventing them from having nukes. Both of the goals would require a continuing occupation. Trump only wants to bomb because a part of his base just really wants him to bomb enemies of Israel. It's a photo opportunity to him and nothing more.
>>529434194Personally I would like the Persian people to be free and determine their own destiny and not be ruled over by either Islamic retards or Israeli tyrants
>>529435717Trump was unable to get a better deal because he's a loser. The Art of the Deal mogged by Obama's niggerlicious zest. No way to recover the Trump brand at this point. It's a meme.
>>529434194>It seems like all/mostly upsides for us>Explain yourselves, without mentioning jewsThe big picture is that this is a move against China/Russia and also Iran eventually needed to be dealt with if there's any hope for lasting peace in the middle east.
>>529437249>if you hate juice you are a mudslime, goysha loan, rabbit
>>529434313Kys
>>529437834>Trump was unable to get a better deal because he's a loser. The Art of the Deal mogged by Obama's niggerlicious zest.Obama made a crap deal just so he could say that he made a deal.
>>529434194proxy wars are bad
>>529434194This is likely an underestimate. It also doesn't include the fact that we pay interest on this number, because it's debt, so add another ~$3.3 trillion in interest over ten years to that figure.
>>529434194Theres nothing to fucking gain except crashing the market and losing a shit load of money, you mong
>>529434445France.England.
>>529438000 (checked)Trump couldn't make a better deal, because, like I wrote, he's a total loser. With Obama's terrible deal we had eyes on their nuclear program 24/7. Because of Trump's total failure to make a better deal--he's a total idiot and loser--we've been blind for almost a year when it comes to their nuclear program. So as bad as the deal was, it was still better than what we have now.
>>529434194In theory it would change a lot of dynamics mad take a significant ball out of Russia and China's courts yeah, mostly if Hezbollah and the Houthis went away you might see the middle east a bit calmer (but still nowhere near peace when you look at Libya in general and Syria's sectarian shit). In practice what kind of sacrifices are we all willing to accept for this however. I mean we assumed this would be a real fight hence losses are gonna happen, but how much. For people thinking they can sink a carrier no a single missile strike or even several gonna do it, those things are designed with literally like 100x redundancy and the toughest US ships have been proven to be literally fucking nuke proofed for like 60 years. Would the nuke leave it a floating melted husk yes, but it still would not sink. It would be an embarrassment however and definitely take the thing out of the rest of the fight more likely than not, they don't need to sink it to have a combat effective result. However Iran is close enough by land to be plenty hittable from land based aircraft and also sub launched tomahawks can hit anything in the country.Lastly without putting boots on the ground this is assuming the Iranian people will rise up and do the job. There are well over 100,000, maybe even almost 200,000 IRGC members and there's no way we can just take them all out from the air. What actually needs to happen is that the non-irgc army also turns on them and then you have a civil war. If the Ayatollah is out of the fight already it might not take too long but if all the leadership is entrenched it could be like a Syria type situation.
>>529434194>Explain yourselves, without mentioning jewsSeems like you failed this task yourself. So explain why America would be attacking Iran if israel didn't exist.
>>529438745>houthisthey did next to nothing, it was a PR stunt. there's no fucking way people in small basic boats couldn't have been run down.trump destroys fishing boats in the southern carribbean but somehow the houthis are crafty and treacherous?
>>529438745>iranian people will rise upand then be put down again if it's a u.s./israeli puppet
>>529434194It's good if they get it done quickly. If it takes years and tens of trillions to topple the regime followed by a 10 year occupation, it's a massive failure.
>>529438985They have a bunch of Iran supplied shit including SAMs and anti ship missiles. The Iranian stuff is not actually that good because they have fired tons of these things at our shios and aircraft there in anger with intent to cripple or sink the targets and to our knowledge have never actually scored a hit. That could be because these are monkey model knockoffs of Russian/Chinese missiles launched by even monkier-model faux armies, but so far nope. Venezuelans haven't been trying to actively attack and sink our Caribbean ships or successfully fire off SAMs at our 4th gen fighters.
>>529434445>idea of an Islamic fundamentalist regime getting nukes is a fucking terrible ideaIf you truly believe that Islamic fundamentalists will be getting England's and France's nukes in our lifetime why aren't we doing something about that?
>>529434194Like Saddam and Assad they keep a lid on a lot of craziness. With the regime gone it could mean chaos spilling over everywhere->arabs across iran/iraq border link up and go nuts>balochis across iran/pakistan link up and go nuts>kurds across iran/iraq/syria/turkey link up and go nuts>azeris... I dont know. rejoin azerbaijan?
>>529436372So who’s swooping in with the power vacuum? Turkey in the north, Pakistan will take the baloch in the south, are you sure other neighbors won’t move in?
>>529434194It's not. Both political parties just want to bitch about it to one up the other.
>>529434194The jews want their ally ISIS expand throughout the middle east. The goal of the jews is to spread murder and rape of children as far as possible, because thats their gods commandment.
>>529434445>Islamic fundamentalist regime getting nukesUK already has nukes
>>529434313Oh you're gonna disarm China, Russia, etc
>>529434194>whats 2 + 2? >and dont say 4, give me a real answer
>>529434194>how is random unprovoked violence bad?You should really consider killing yourself >>529434445Yes, feed us more Jewish propaganda
If they had nukes, their leader would still be alive. They'll be pursuing nukes from here on out
>>529438985>Shipping rates increased by up to 300%>60–70% increase in container shipping prices from Asia to the US East CoastInflation? More like Houflation.
>>529434194>for usAre you a blackmailed pedophile or a pedophile blackmailer?
War in Iran is a Chinese trap that the USA is falling directly into. The Cult of Fatima (that's what Shia is) is indestructable and has tens of millions of adherents. They may kill one ayatollah after another, but the regime will not fall fundamentally and the Chinese will continue to rearm it.
>>529434194Aren't you brown and Muslim? Become one and you will get your answer
>>529434194It’s not dead sandniggers is a good thing
>>529434194>usWhos us
>>529434445Our muslim neighbours have nuclear weapons
>>529435880>Making Israel the center of your universe is a dumb thing to doMotherfucker thats the entire problem with the West
>>529434194>durr hurr why are my groceries expensive >duuuuh why aren't my amazon packages arriving >durrr why does everything take so long to ship to me>uurrrrrrrrrrr idk why oil production halting and economic activity slowing affects my degenerate consumerist life at all
>>529441689unlikely but we're ABSOLUTELY gonna disarm the states that have leadership convinced of fundamentalist islamic martyrdom especially if we can do it overnight. no fucking brainer dude
>>529445959agreed, if iran had their way every single part of the international supply chain would be constantly disrupted. for others reading, they fund literal houthi pirates
>>529438718>Trump couldn't make a better deal, because, like I wroteBlah blah blah you dumb nigger. There was never gonna be a "deal" this was always the plan. You dumb fucking nigger.
>>529440018iran absolutely did not keep chaos from spilling over. unlike those other regimes you mentioned, iran IS the chaos in the region. they fund endless fucking proxy wars and purposefully destabilize the region to remain top dog. this isnt even about israel, fucking EVERYBODY in that region hates iran.
>>529434194Its not about toppling the regime being good or bad, its an objectively evil regime. The problem is regime change operations, historically, never end well for anyone invovled.
>>529434194It's bad if you're a shitlib or a chink.
>>529446604even without bringing in morality, even if you look at it from a purely selfish american angle, no israel interests, it is of massive benefit to america to remove that regime. they funded groups who disrupted our supply chain for fucks sake. this is quite literally only a good thing
>>529434600Qatar is the new stat check against Israel. Keep up, retard.
>>529434194>What is 1 + 1?>But don't tell me it's 2
>>529434194Gas prices about to explode:Futures on Brent crude (BZ=F), the international pricing benchmark, had jumped by roughly 2.9% to close above $72.80 on Friday, while those on US benchmark West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude (CL=F) had moved up by a slightly smaller 2.8% to trade above $67 by Friday's close.Without signs of deescalation over the weekend, prices could surge upward by as much as $10 to $20 per barrel when the market reopens Sunday night, Jorge León, head of geopolitical analysis at Rystad Energy, told Yahoo Finance."Given the scale of retaliation, most of the strategic initiative now lies with Iran," León said. "How Tehran chooses to respond over the next 24-72 hours — especially toward energy infrastructure or regional shipping — will be the primary driver of near-term oil market dynamics."https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-strikes-in-iran-could-see-oil-prices-jump-10-to-20-or-more-with-no-deescalation-khamenei-reportedly-dead-143847074.html
>>529434600khamenei is reported deadwelp looks like we did without getting dragged into a decades long occupationgg sandniggerinos
>>529434194Why is it going to be different from Iraq?If there's no good reason to think that then there is no good reason for fighting this war, going from an American perspective.
>>529446855i can help, supply chains are a fantastic reason we would do this. even if israel disappeared tomorrow, iran would continue to fund groups who attack shipping vessels, that one reason should be enough alone. in no other circumstance would we accept a country funding proxy groups that hold our shipping vessels hostages. this was a looong time coming lmao
>>529434194>It seems like all/mostly upsides for usyou didn't do it for you, you did it for your mastersso
>>529446986How is this going to be different from WW2?????
>>529446986because the people in iran actually have a hunger for a non fundamentalist islamic way of life, unlike the iraqi citizenry. i know we were saying the same about iraq, but we had no precedent for that claim. meanwhile, iranians were wearing swimsuits in the 70s dude, not even that long ago. legitimately some people's parents in iran new what it was like to not live under an oppressively religious freak.
>>529434194idk man, how would pissing 2 billion people be bad
>>529447307you mean the people who were already chanting death to america? oh no, wouldnt want to piss those guys off! lmao
It's ba->shoots myself in the fucking head and dies before completing the sentencehaha lmao
>>529446939>khamenei is reported deadby spammers. he is not dead according to people who know him. the jew media is spamming this in hopes that iranian sources will counter the narrative by contacting the leader electronically so they can trace his location. >>529447114what a gay inversion of what i said. jews are the ones making shit expensive and this attack on iran is accelerating that a lot
>>529434194I don't know burgebro. You might be fine.For us it means increased amounts of refugees.
>>529447389idk man, did you do something in the past to piss them off ?
>>529446075>fundamentalist martyrdomisrael?
