Supporters of the guy on the right sound exactly like supporters of the guy on the left did
The Iran nuclear agreement, known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), was finalized in July 2015 under President Obama to limit Iran's nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. The deal aimed to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons by imposing strict restrictions and allowing international inspections of its nuclear facilities.
>>529467152except jews had to stage 9/11 to get the support of the american people
>>529467152the only supporters the guy on the right has left are the ones who also supported the guy on the left.
>>529467330The October 7 attacks conducted by Hamas in 2023 were just as fake as 9/11! As for Iran even Netanyahu himself said it that nation wouldn't be anything without Jews who helped Cyrus the Great win his war with Babylon
>>529467534Just funny how no one's really talking about it as much as they should be.Same rationales and everything, right down to TDS/BDS.https://www.deseret.com/2003/12/7/19799473/charles-krauthammer-bush-derangement-syndrome-is-spreading/
>>529467152>republicans sound like republicansno shitDid you really think they had changed?
>>529467152That's an insult to Bush supporters. They at least had 9/11, Trump doesn't even bother making excuses anymore, he just declares someone a threat and Miggers lap it up
>>529467152Bush actually had support. The whole 9/11 was probably fabricated, but he at least set the whole thing up to garner up enough support for his invasion. Trump just sucked more Jew did to achieve his goal. Funny that they're cutting off all types of aid to white Americans because muh money, but they've always got money to bomb people for Israel. Shame they never care this much about helping Americans. No wonder depression is through the roof, suicide is sky high, and crime is insane. The decay from within will be America's undoing.
>>529469541I never thought they did, but it's obvious there's a bunch of people out there who bought what they were selling.
>>529467152Call Trump for what he is: a total zogslave.
>>529467152THE BEST PRESIDENTS RIGHT HEREFUCK THE MIDDLE EAST
>>529469563Low IQ troon. We took out another Russian/Chinese ally. Thats it. Kill yourself tranny
>>529468024At least they happened in Israel. No more false flags across the world, please.
>>529469696not for iraq he fucking didn’t
>>529470196>Even before his speech, Americans were inclined to believe the worst about Hussein’s regime. In a survey conducted a few weeks prior to the State of the Union, 73% favored military action in Iraq to end Hussein’s rule; just 16% were opposed. More than half (56%) said the U.S. should take action against Iraq “even if it meant U.S. forces might suffer thousands of casualties.”https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/03/14/a-look-back-at-how-fear-and-false-beliefs-bolstered-u-s-public-support-for-war-in-iraq/
>>529467152>Supporters of the guy on the right sound exactly like supporters of the guy on the left didYeah, and the Democrats sounded exactly the same when Clinton was bombing the serbs, when Obama was destroying Libya, and when Biden was war mongering in Ukraine. Hell they sounded the same when Carter attacked Iran over the hostage crisis, when LBJ passed the draft to expand the war in Vietnam, when Kennedy got suckered into starting the war in Vietnam and endorsing the bay of pigs fiasco, they backed FDR in WWII, and they backed Woodrow Wilson in WWI. The last Democrat that didn't attack a foreign country was fucking Grover Cleveland in 1893.
No fucking shit. His entire first term was just the third Dubya term. Retards still voted for him again.
>>529470601>b...but Democrats!Funny how you guys can never address the argument without falling back on whataboutism.
>>529467152I was against W's warmongering just like I'm against Trump/Lindsey Graham's warmongering (and Obama's too).
>>529470818Hey sure, Republicans shouldn't be starting wars either.Trump is bombing Iran again and he did way more drone strikes than I'd like, which is better than the full scale wars Biden, Bush and Obama started; but still not great.And Republicans have a history of stupid wars too. Before Dubya his father started Gulf War I against Iraq which was fairly succesful and well justified; but it was still another war. Reagan had the Iran Contra bullshit and the shadow wars in central and South America. Nixon inherited and ended the war in Vietnam; but he was still president during a war and Eisenhower had the Korean war which means the last Republican that didn't have a war was Hoover.The military industrial complex rules both parties.
Dubya supporters were more consistent, you knew where you stood on their opinions. Migapedes are worse because they don't have any actual policies, they just agree with anything Trump says even if it contradicts what he said the day before.
>>529469418truth is that most people noped out on Trump last year when he lied about all of this. the hopeful deniers who hung on are noping out now. Trump's government is finished.
>>529471437I could nitpick a few of the things you said but I agree with your larger point so I won't. The point is all of this is bad. But I guess what rubs me the wrong way is that Trump campaigned specifically against this (much like Bush did, who I admit to voting for both times - Bush specifically ran on a platform that we wouldn't be doing "nation building" back in 2000).
>>529467152Yes, if you were a trump supporter in 2015 you’ve been completely humiliated by him by now
>>529467264It did nothing to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons, Hell one of the Euros asked if the "Deal" prevented Iran from buying modern centrifuges which would allow them to enrich fissile material faster and the response was muting the individual and not answering him.
>>529471903Yeah, I'm not thrilled about this.
>>529472139Your heart is in the right place. Sorry I jumped on you right out the gate.
>>529472005Trump was supported primarily to PREVENT. He was a defensive move. He succeeded in that. Anything he does that is a benefit, such as deporting browns, is appreciated. Even now he is doing us a solid by getting Israel rekt and having the US kicked out of the middle east.
>>529472202Its fine. You see so much political party bullshit from both sides that one tends to start assuming that's what you're seeing all the time. Its a good assumption most of the time.
>>529467152If Trump sends troops to Iran for the next eight years, then I'll agree with you.
Looking back, Bush was based. That dumb nigger faggot Obama ruined everything.
>>529472447Well said.I've been right-leaning most of my life. I admittedly noped out on Trump right from the beginning, mostly because I've been familiar with him all my life going back to the 80s and knew him as a lifelong con artist. I figured he'd do more long term damage to the conservative cause than benefit it. I don't feel like I've been proven wrong in that assessment. >>529472613It's a fair point. Honestly, I'd prefer not to be proven right on this. But we thought Iraq was going to be a short in-and-out affair as well.
>>529472447Nice revisionism but Trump imported a significant amount of actual anti-war types because of the collapse of the Republican coalition due to the Iraq war, and again because Obama still kept bombing the Middle East. You are an Obama supporter of foreign policy by saying ACKSHUALLY ITS NOT A GROUND WARThere was no narrative of “gee I hope Trump cripples Iran” in 2016, you were not here posting that. The rest of your post is incoherent cope.
>>529473274We understand that war decisions are made above the head of the President.
>>5294695639/11 was a false flag. The biggest lie isn't Building 7 falling without being struck, but the Twin Towers falling within their own footprints. The heavy modular exterior load bearing panels were clearly systematically blown apart and propelled sideways. Bush admin was ALL OVER THAT FALSE FLAG, which killed 3k Americans Trump didn't feel the need to kill fellow Americans to do what need to be done.
>>529472139Shut the fuck up. Venezuela was helping fix US elections, and Iran was developing nuclear weapons. Both needed to go. Let me know when Trump puts the US in a persistent ground war. By the way, you cowardly shits declared war on fellow americans with your race replacement migrant invasion which was an act of war.
>>529474326Yeah, and Iraq was sitting on enough yellow cake uranium to be a threat to the entire world too.
>>529474510Hey dummy, do you deny that Iran both had uranium and was enriching it? Even a soft headed Obama lover admitted that Iran went back to enriching uranium "after Bibi forced Trump to tear up Obama's holy writ".
>>529474757Funny, thought Trump set the Iranian nuclear program back to the stone age when he bombed it the first time.It's amazing that they were able to build it back to the brink of having nuclear weapons again in such short time.Unless...
>>529474326I was fine with Venezuela it was quick and Maduro was a commie twat. I don't want this Iran thing to drag on and I don't like the fucking Israelis, so I'm more negative on this one.
>>529475129Hey ingrate, Trump is doing your people, the Iranian people, and all the people who have suffered at the hands of the Iranian regime a solid today, but the only thing you are worried about is whether you will win the midterms so you can amelek white americans by resuming the migrant invasion.MIGA RHETORIC IS A GIGANTIC ACT OF INGRATITUDE DISGUISED AS A MEME BY THE PEOPLE WHO WILL MOST BENEFIT FROM TRUMP'S RESOLUTE ACTIONS, YOU ANTI-WHITE INGRATE.
>>529475720>word-for-word the type of shit we said to people who opposed the Iraq War back in the dayCan't make this shit up.
>>529470196Yes he did you dumb zoomer. The Iraq buildup was contentious but still had large public support in the beginning.
>>529467152I think the supporters of the guy on the left actually sounded less deranged and more coherent than supporters of the guy on the right.
>>529476619Bro you weren't even alive then.
>>529476830I was born in '95.
>>529470818kys fucking retard
>>529476619Because despite 9/11 being fake and gay, it was a masterful deception to hype up Americans for war. You can't blame those voters back then, and on top of it they didn't have access to the information we have now. Trump is a beligerent New York boomer and is able to outright lie due to his cultish, retard miggers.
>>529477209How about you catch up with the the thread before shooting off your mouth.I already apologized for jumping on him like that.
>>529477272I was 20 at the time. It was traumatic. I lived in Connecticut on the border of New York State at the time and had even planned to go into the city that day.We watched it live in real time and had never seen anything like that. A lot of us were pissed and wanted to rain down revenge on those that did it to us.I supported going into Iraq the first time. Not because I thought they were involved in 9/11, but because Saddam was bad and I thought removing him would be a service to humanity. But it was a mistake; turns out that war isn't such a straightforward thing that turns out the way you think it will when it begins. Don't occupy and you leave a vacuum of power. Occupy and you find yourself in a costly quagmire.It's frustrating seeing people make the same arguments we made back then.
>>529467152>A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm
>>529477820I'm just a shade younger than youI understood Afghanistan. I never understood Iraq
>>529478367I was deep in the talk radio echo chamber back then. Listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, and Savage. Posted fairly regularly on FreeRepublic.com.There was a solid drumbeat of anti-Saddam rhetoric in the country after the first Iraq war. And the dude deserved it. He was scum, uniquely bad. A lot of us thought he was capable of anything, much the same way people think of Iran or North Korea today.My support for Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or even WMDs. I just supported him being gone. But what was the cost that came at? It's the unanticipated long-term costs of actions that really change people's minds; for the true believer, everything seems just peachy and right when it all starts.
We have a ZOG for decades geniusThe worst part is Jewmerica is totally castrated
>>529467152We were based then and were based now. Fuck mudslimes
>>529478846I sure hope you're not one of those people who complains about the national debt being too high.War is expensive.
>>529478727>unanticipatedkekekekekekek
>>529479059Kek, you're not wrong. But I guess it was unanticipated in that a lot of us just blew off those realities as being left-wing talking points.
>>529478727Yeah this is called "you were retarded and got fucking brainwashed into supporting over a million civilians getting killed"but it's ok. You got to enjoy Domino's and relatively mild financial fluctuations compared to the vaporized victims of these wars, who had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. America is a cancer on planet earth.And although likely much smaller, there is a whole new generation of retards now who are willing to support this new conflict for the same reasons you did. Because, Oh well, Khamenei was a bad guy, so it makes everything we do okay.If there's a hell every American citizen is going LOL
>>529477820So you decided to troon out like a pussy ass panican instead of resting in Trump's goodness and wisdom. Just trust in Trump dude. W was one of the best presidents we ever had btw.
>>529467152Maybe Iraq's WMDs are in Iran. We gotta make sure, right?
>>529478993War is a fraction of the cost of welfare. Without Great Society programs and COVID "stimulus" we would have no national debt, even with all the wars. And unlike war, all we get from welfare is more niggers
>>529470130Enjoy your poverty and 1,000 year Democrat reich. That's all you get out of this.
>>529472447Trump is not deporting browns any more than Obama did, and by using ICE as his personal police force to score photo ops on leftists he just cost them all their legitimacy and with it tanked the cause of anti-immigration for decades. He also is bringing in millions of Indians. Enjoy your new brown neighbors.
>>529467152No, the guy on the left had a RETARDED ideology that "democracy" could be spread by the sword whereas Trump doesn't give a fuck who runs these countries. Bush had to come up with yellow cake and other bullshit to justify his gay ground invasion of 20+ years whereas Trump just says your terms are unacceptable and then kills the current capo and tells them to hire a new guy who's a better negotiator.
>>529479518Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying I'd support it again. The point is that propaganda and brainwashing works, especially when you're young and inclined to believe what people tell you because they tell you the things you want to hear.My overall point here is that the cope people tell themselves to support these actions is exactly the same as the cope we told ourselves then.
