I think October 7 and the invasion of the Ukraine have been the worst blunders of the century in terms of how they affect the aggressor.October 7 was supposed to rally the muslim world behind Palestine instead it got Gaza and Hamas wrecked, got Hezbollah taken out entirely by pagers, and led to Iran being (possibly) defeated. No objectives were achieved and Israel has come out in a stronger position than they have ever been in.Ukraine invasion has failed. Russia hasn't even taken the Donbas. Russia has never been so alone and their only alliances they have 0 leverage in and are taken advantage of. Russia has had to let the USA take out their allies because they can provide 0 help. Russians have gained nothing as a result of their war and lost credibility, allies, economic growth etc.Seriously what the fuck were they thinking?
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>>529468000Ukraine invasion is long term success. 20% of their land has been taken and the population has been reduced from 46 million to 29 million.
>>529468000>>529468163Are you hiring?
>>529468220You think Russia's war objectives were to take 20% of Ukraine at all costs even if it wrecks their future and leads to the expansion of NATO and the destruction of all their allies?>>529468225Where am I wrong? The Ukraine invasion and Oct 7 both ended up being massive mistakes.
>>529468000allies?
>>529468220and it caused the expansion of nato
I love this effort to tie all of these things together like anyone thinks BRICS is the fucking Warsaw Pact or something
>>529468417>wrecks their futureNo one knows the future of Russia because they are switching more and more of their trade to Asian countries like China. We know Ukraine continues to be depopulated due to mass emigration and death rate 3 times higher than birth rate.>expansion of NATOOnly the expansion of NATO into Ukraine and Belarus is a problem for Russia.>destruction of all their alliesSyria, Venezuela, and Iran were collapsing on their own because of their poor economic systems.
>>529468841I'm not saying they are Warsaw pact nor that Russia has close relations to Gaza or cares about Gaza. And I'm not saying Russia + Iran + syria were like Warsaw pact. I'm saying Russia and Hamas both miscalculated big time and made huge mistakes.
>>529468000Over time, public opinion matters. The world hates Israel now. The next 20 generations will avoid jews and not trust them. That bodes well for gentiles.
>>529468954>they are switching more and more of their trade to Asian countries like ChinaAnd those countries get to totally dictate terms which is not a good position for Russia. >We know Ukraine continues to be depopulated due to mass emigration and death rate 3 times higher than birth rate.Ukraine is going to end up in the EU when all is said and done. And again, was Russia's objective just to kill Ukrainians and leave? They wanted Kyiv and failed, they wanted a pro-Russian gov't in Kyiv and failed, they want Donbas and haven't taken it. The goal of the invasion wasn't just kill Ukrainians for fun.
>>529468000Oct 7 was a psyop to justify a genocidal response. Netanyahu allowed it to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a FF or mostly fabricated.
>>529469229>I wouldn't be surprised if it was a FFWhere are all the Hamas people saying it was a false flag? They were all celebrating it because they viewed it as a resounding success.
>>529468220Russia hasn’t achieved any of their objectives and the war is now in its fifth year, about to overtake how long the USSR fought in WW2 for.
>>529468417>Didn't answer the question.OK pal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_(Svechin_book)
>>529468220it's okay we're in Canada now.
Israel is fucked long term because of birth rates. The secular and "relatively" moderate ones don't fuck; literally 100% of the Jewish population growth comes from this ultra-extreme retards (think: Amish, but if they were insanely violent and paranoid) who'll run the cunt into the ground as soon as they're the majority. Ironically enough, the only other demographic in Israel still growing - the only demographic that may stop it going completely retarded - are Arab Israelis
>>529469690>We didn't send special forces to Hostomel airport to quickly extract the banderite Kiev regime! We actually wanted to take a bunch of land just to lose it and keep the neo-nazi banderites in place The cope of Xitter bots is astounding. I remember them celebrating saying Zelensky was going to be dragged through the streets when the invasion began lol. I bet if I dig through that literally who's twitter I'd see tweets like that at the start of the invasion.
>>529469004The Israeli chimpout in Gaza has effectively destroyed their post-war victim narrative and made them look like murderous villains to everyone besides evangeliboomers and brown nosing pajeets. And while Russia was certainly hoping for a quick decapitation strike they're hardly in over their heads and are winning
>>529468000October 7 was a Mossad operation, so I'd say it was wildly successful actually.The Ukraine thing was pretty dumb, but desperate people do desperate things, even if they will almost certainly fail. It's still better than rolling over and just letting yourself be murdered. And the US was absolutely trying to murder Russia. Still is.
>>529470292>The Israeli chimpout in Gaza has effectively destroyed their post-war victim narrativeNobody cares about a victim narrative. They took out Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, Iran, and have better relations than ever with much of the Arab states despite what they did in Gaza. Do you think Israel cares what people on /pol/ and twitter think of them?
>>529468000noticing is at an all time high since 1933
>>529468000It really is incredibly embarrassing. Multipolarity is a complete joke, the US stands head and shoulders above the rest.
Russia and China have never been allies with Iran.Israel was created by ethnically cleansing Palestinians with weapons supplied by the Warsaw Pact and logistically facilitated by Yugoslavia.Communist states and the US were the first wave of countries to recognize lsrael. They all voted to admit Israel into the UN.More Jewish lsraeIis have dual citizenship in Russia than anywhere else. Majority of Jewish lsraelis descended from the Warsaw Pact states and communist Ethiopia.Russia had an arms and aerospace embargo on Iran from 2007 until 2022, with the sold exception being supplying it with the S-300 PMU2 during the brief JCPOA deal that Iran had ordered all the way back in 2007 before the Russian embargo.Russia and China voted for or passed every single UNSC sanction against Iran between the mid-2000s and mid-2010s.The USSR backed Saddam against Iran in the 1980s war, and earlier backed Communist insurgents against Iran. The USSR had backed at least three different separatist states in Iran in the first half of the century.Like the Soviets, the Russian Empire was also enemies of with Iran and conquered the South Caucasus. Russia and Iran have always been enemies until the late-1980s.
>>529469195/pol/ is full of brown third world copers. Anyone who argues that the war has been a success is a fucking idiot.
>>529468417China and Best Korea have entered the chat
>>529470391Hamas and Hezbollah are damaged but still intact. Assad's overthrow had little if anything to do with Israel. And Iran is showing no signs of capitulating, let alone about to overthrow their government and invite Phil Leotardo's son back in to rule them
>>529468000>No objectives were achieved and Israel has come out in a stronger position than they have ever been in.But that was always the objective of hamas
>>529468220Mate, I genuinly hope the Ukrainians can keep going as a people, but in the fullness of everything, who actually gives a fuck about Ukraine? Russia just gave it all away over 20% of Ukraine land mass. "oh my god they took some coal mines".....who gives a fuck brother, nobody cares.
>>529470616Russia has never sold offensive missiles to Iran, but Ukraine did once during the early-2000s when it sold it the Kh-55.Russia had never sold planes to Iran but Ukraine did once in the late-2000s when it sold the An-148. Russia only just sold jets to Iran in 2024.Russia refused to launch a satellite for Iran for decades until August 2022.Benjamin Netanyahu had openly described Russia as its partner in Syria, when elaborating why lsraeI won't sell arms to Ukraine.
>>529470391Why even bother? /pol/ will continue simping until the regime collapses >>529470858>Assad's overthrow had little if anything to do with IsraelWhy didn’t Hezbollah help Assad then?
>>529470581ALL HAIL THE ZOG EMPEROR!!!!!! I know this was for the kikes (duh) but this was raw efficient unadulterated brutality and power on display. I could never imagine a cuck like Biden let alone any other leader doing this. I wish he had the same energy at mass deportations.Domestically he's a baby fart TACO, overseas he's a conquering chad.
>>529468000>Oct 7 and Ukraine invasion worst blunders of the century?it's still early in the century. we have nearly 75 more years of blunders ahead. if you're speaking of "within the last 100 years" then no, the worst blunder in that case would be the creation of israel.
>>529468220Nobody is arguing that Ukraine is looking better than before now. It got fucked hard, but it can continue to be financed by Europe, as it costs them pennies to roll Ukraine. On the other hand Russia has spent a great deal of its treasure and has come way shorter than this invasion was worth. There is no end of the war in the horizon. It will last at least throughout 2026. While I think the recent advances by Ukraine will be short lived, Russia won't gain anything significant by the end of the year either. The cost in treasure and blood though will remain high and the Russian state's means to fund this war will continue to get liquidated.
