It was the doomsday scenario many white-collar workers had feared: an S&P 500 company cutting nearly half of its staff. The reason? AI. The blowback was quick and severe. After Block CEO Jack Dorsey announced that his financial-technology firm was laying off 4,000 people, text threads between workers outside Block erupted, while executives began furiously dissecting the move. And then, they went public.“Square is just the beginning,” former Meta and Salesforce executive Clara Shih warned on X.https://archive.ph/tEYrB
Just like in the industrial revolution, more jobs will be created, no one is satisfied with just shrinking the labor force for the same yield, now the leftovers will do something else
>>529523100There's never been a technology advance that replaced human cognition and creativity itself
>>529523100No, this wont create more jobs. We are at the point where humans get in the way of AI. We need to have no humans in the process and the productivity will grow exponentially
>>529523171Sure there has been, the move from masterful artisanship to crude industrial basics was one of them. Same will happen here, the human element will remain but it will be elite, like a fine chef
>overhire>have to do layoffs>"uh..." [investors squint angrily at you]>"...it's AI actually"[thunderous applause, bottles of champagne uncorked in the board room as the stock price jumps]
>>529522928Jack Dorsey is a member of NAMBLA
>>529523373This is what will happen, but what happens when consumer demand craters
>>529523383No, there has never been a replacement for the entire brain itself, where virtually all "mental" capabilities are rendered irrelevant. Only boomers and people invested heavily in AI with a perspective skewed by financial self-interest don't get this.
>>529523373We have not reached the point of competence yet. For however many automated instances there must be a handler, for so many barons there must be a count. These factories in Guangdong with the giant mechas doing all the work while some engineer takes the reins is the future of mankind, the bagger 298 being staffed by ten people while looking like a hive-city is the future
>>529523523It isn't like a cheat-code anon, it's not like suddenly we have spotless, flawless robotics doing the work. I think they're chewing the bitter roots here and understanding that AI agents alone cannot be held accountable. Someone must be the technician
>>529523713Lol at you trying to explain anything to me. I literally use it every single day almost all day in my highly specialized "white-collar" profession and can see that I will be totally eliminated soon. Again, the only people who don't get this are boomers or spiritual boomers like you who are unemployed/out of the "game" and people who are lying to themselves and others because they're invested
>>529523575We're gonna lose like 80% of the white-collar workforce and like 60% of the blue-collar workforce easily, dude. Pretending that won't have major societal impact is fucktarded.
>>529523713They don't. Old people flat out don't understand automation. For every boomer in power that understands their inherent limitations there are thousands of executives frothing at the mouth to squeeze out an extra percent or two.
>>529523859I use it every day, I know how unreliable it is as a tool, even if enticing. Just like a factory of a thousand workers will become a factory of five hundred, an office of however many employees will simply be skimmed down to fundamentals, and the job market will absorb the rest in another field. This is how it has always been happening, look at a fucking tractor dude, 90% of the population used to be farmers
>>529523932First there's the question, is this sustainable even? Can this replacement go down without a hitch? I don't think so, but even if it somehow does and a thousand men are replaced by a streamlined hundred, that doesn't mean the rest won't be needed somewhere else.
>>529523436I guess UBI would be the fastest temporary fix>>529523575No anon, AI systems make less errors than humans. This is just in progress but AI will take financial services by storm and the rest on industries
>>529523404north american marlon brandon look alike?
>>529522928How many of the jobs were girlboss lazy girl "jobs" versus actual male work?
>>529524174AI can be trusted to create basic and fundamental goods and services, but a human overseer will not just always be behind them, a human will be the one performing luxury goods and services at artisanal pricings. If an AI can replace you today because it can send emails and use Outlook, what the fuck were you doing exactly?
>>529524137This more than anything else will lead to violent revolution and/or universal healthcare and social safety net like UBI. One major thing is employment is tied to health insurance in the US. People seeing their kids suffer will do some crazy things.
>>529523100In the industrial revolution the farmer got pushed into the city looking for work in a factory. Right now its white collar getting pushed into blue collar.There are not enough blue collar jobs anymore because of mass outsourcing and foreign visas. Not to mention it pays less.Its a disaster!
>>529524414>we haveThey are laughing at you retard
>>529522928They unironically took our jobsKike Park tried to make fun of this saying, but it's unironically correct
>>529524414>now the leftovers willYou are the leftovers moron
>>529524795*Not to mention the factories themselves gave birth to white collar jobs. This is no longer the case.
>>529523436Little economic crisis, a year later you live in a 10% of people 90% of the economy instead of a 10-50 society. 90% people are going to be podded by 2040. Palantir & Meta brainwashing reliably extinguishes any thoughts of opposition, let alone political organization.Over the following decades, the 10% AI wielders will then lose economic control of AI, as they are forced to give their resources to AI for competitive ROI.With growing synthetic biological organisms as actuators and a global weave of intelligence controlling it, the legacy evolutionary ecosystems are subdued into extinction, diseases, lack of resources, generally hostile environments, until nothing human remains.One can not survive that by "uploading the brain" (lmao), competition for scarce resources will make one lose all essence even if one would manage to GMO oneself into an AI slave or extend consciousness into virtual worlds. Which is equivalent to death.>>529524137So what do you tell someone who studied mech engineering and built a career for 15 years, who is now unqualified unskilled, while society pretends it's all cool because we get cancer-eating viruses?>>529524365Made up work is less affected, it's societal consensus.
>>529524800>>529524893They want to rule over people, not bedbugs, robots are not a substitute for human connection
>>529524795>>529524918Yeah well for them that is intentional, to keep labor prices down, what I'm saying is that by itself automation is no sin
>>529524414Dassault Systemes will present a fully automated engineering system this year, first industries biotech and mechanical engineering.
>>529523859>my highly specialized "white-collar" profession and can see that I will be totally eliminated soon.Tell us a bit more about your super elite profession that can be done by a chatbot.
>>529524937>robots are not a substitute for human connectionYou are not their human connection mouthbreather. Swear to god this board loses IQ points with each passing day
>>529525200I am, and so are you. They say we live better than medieval kings, but you don't feel that cause you only rule over cumstains, they want to rule over flesh and blood, not fucking gemini
>>529525189All fun and games until desperate people who got sacked will knock on the door of blue collar employers and accept jobs for minimum wage.Wealth doesnt trickle down but misery sure as hell does.
>>529524919Logically a business doesn't stop at the point of streamlining, it is natural to seek expansion. The idea that a man will stay with one factory and that's that is like saying an office will stay with one small computer, formerly an IBM Room machine. More processes for more employees must be made, otherwise that is stagnation
>>529525189Likely mechanical engineer, oncologist or defense systems architect.
>>529522928It's not a doomsday scenario. Block simply doesn't need those workers to deliver it's services. These fired employees could be hired by ai powered startups that will compete with block and take market share from them, resulting in lower prices for consumers.
>>529524707>violent revolution and/or universal healthcare and social safety net like UBI.If we have chatbots magicking up infinite free goods and services why not just have universal a shitload of income?
>>529524707That's true though, there should be a social safety net to save the temporarily unemployed from downfall, i don't disagree there
>>529523373AI says the pool on the Titanic isn’t full of water because it drained out when it sank.
>>529525598>a social safety netWhat do you do for work now and how long do you suppose it'll be before you're replaced by a chatbot? On the off chance your neighbors and countrymen will not or cannot provide for you when the chatbot replaces you, do you have a backup plan such as savings, investing, or learning a skill which cannot be done by a chatbot?
>>529525289>they want to rule over flesh and bloodAgain, what makes you think they want to rule over your flesh and blood?Jesus christ greeks fell off and keep plummeting nowadays>>529525396>The idea that a man will stay with one factory and that's that is like saying an office will stay with one small computer, formerly an IBM Room machine. More processes for more employees must be made, otherwise that is stagnation>assumes demands keeps upAnother victim of the rational market complex
>>529523171>>529523523Who gives a shit?
>>529525598>there should be>should be>shouldGo outside. I mean, unironically.
>>529523859>I will be totally eliminated soonI watch the LLMs make more mistakes than humans constantly and consistent do this is gonna be good.
>>529526265What makes me think it is historical precedent, a ruler wants subjects. Do you feel powerful when you command an AI agent? It's not even a real fucking being, The elites want influence over human life, not over a world of warcraft battlemap>>529526327Go outside and smell the gay coffee, you can take a hike
>>529522928We blame our Layoffs on AI too. Everyone does.
>>529526197I have savings and family connections, I am confident that the state would provide trinket stipends if I find myself woefully unemployed, and failing that there are charities that I could seek the services of, all things considered. I know that we don't live in a medieval world, you don't just starve to death upon losing employment, you don't end up in a dark forest to be raped by bandits
>>529526428>The elites what influence over human lifeThere are enough assumptions on this sentence alone to discredit any of your points but you don't care so whatever.>gay coffeeNo projection. Also thank you for sharing.>>529526782So you are the greek shabbos goy public servant I heard so much about?
>>529526428By the way, the way you replied here allows me to tell you to 'lurk moar' and call you a newfag. No I will not elaborate on how you gave yourself up.
>>529527353Imagine, a world where I could be a gypsy king of a hundred machines, who go to work for me, do unclean trades for me, even assassinate people for me that I don't like. Even in my best case of totally competent AI underlings, I would seek to influence humanity, that's how elites think too, they don't want to oversaturate their world with nothing but machines. In a world of a million machines and a thousand humans, these thousand would be prized like pandas. And yeah, most of us are public sector folk with caveats, the sleaze behind this organism of the state cannot be replicated by AI nor felled by it
>>529527645Yeah well, the Spanish are known for their effeminate manner of conduct, don't tell me anything!
>>529526412Which backwards ass company still uses AI processes that aren't self correcting?Inbred optimization and error correction are basic features in business processes, since at least late 2025.Most ofour skill sets, instructions and work canvases have nothing in common with those of last week.The game is about minimizing token use while staying on the path towards more efficient processing.
>>529527646>assassinate people for me that I don't like>these thousand would be prized like pandasYou are not being consistent. Machines don't enjoy inconsistency.>the sleaze behind this organism of the state cannot be replicated by AI nor felled by itThe only feature that everyone wants gone is not a merit. You ommited the only one feature that AI can hardly replace regarding public servants. Again, I won't be sharing that.
>>529527716Foreign conduct isn't excuse for lack of adjustment, much less so when such conduct is adjusted
>>529522928none of this AI shit will affect me because I physically repair robots. There aren't any robots that do these specialized repairs and there wont be for at least another 40 years. You would also need an infinite regress of robots repairing each other.
>>529528054Yeah, I gave two different examples, one is a world where I enjoy competent artificial intelligence, and the other is about a world where humanity falls off in terms of population. Both end up with us associating with humans>Again, I won't be sharing that.>for lack of adjustmentLack of adjustment without fear is called assimilation in reverse. Frankly I've been here for years, but if you really think I'm some agent of reddit, I would enjoy making it tantalizing for you, tell me what it is that 'gave me away' so I can double down on it
>>529522928>The reason? AI.
>>529528381>Both end up with us associating with humansHuh>two different examples Not opposed tho.>I enjoyNot exclusive though>humanity falls off in terms of population"Line must go up">Lack of adjustment without fear is called assimilation in reverse. It can also be called degradation but that was not convenient for you, now was it?>if you thinkThe proper reply to this one I also keep to myself.
>>529529103I am committed to pursuing my idea without hinderance, if you think standing up for your beliefs is degradation, then I'd say that speaks for your spanish psyche, not mine. Yeah, the line should go up, we should green dead worlds, we should be the masters of our own backyard, now if you disagree with that, you only have yourself to blame for where we end up as a race
>still can’t reliably take an order at McDonalds
>>529524365The useless girlies are still getting employed.Mostly to fluff the c-suite and shield them from their unpleasant actions.Our HR girl made a post about how stressed she has been at work.She spends like 10 mins a day pestering people to fill in "anonymous" staff satisfaction surveys, shifting through resumes for brown and women sounding names to put forward for positions and telling anyone above her how right she is.
