And why doesn’t this board want you thinking about its implications?
if only :(
>>529604312nobut it should have
>>529604312-271k
>>529604536Is that your estimate for the total or just the Jews?
The death count was well under a million, and most of them weren't even targeted to be killed. Jewish civilian deaths were probably in the hundreds of thousands.Years into the war and blockade, Axis food ran out, so they stopped supplying the concentration camps.
>>529604312Depends, in what location?
>>529604611If you force someone into a ghetto or a camp and keep them from working to provide for themselves, and then you starve them because you just didn’t have enough food to feed everyone, you are still culpable. They could’ve hunted and gathered given nothing else, yet they were restricted on Nazi orders. It’s unjust. Period.
>>529604611complete fucking bullshitit was the communist side with no food after the war
>>529604723>keep them from working to provide for themselves,they're in hell where they belong
>>529604734>>529604769You are satan you medieval degenerate baboon
>>529604312https://holocausthandbooks.com/documentaries/
britain invented it and run it in both world wars don't believe me?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Corpse_Factory> Horace Vachell: “I am told by an eminent chemist that six pounds of glycerine can be extracted from the corpse of a fairly well nourished Hun... These unfortunates, when alive, were driven ruthlessly to inevitable slaughter. They are sent as ruthlessly to the blast furnaces. One million dead men are resolved into six million pounds of glycerine."its just anti german racism by anglos, one day we will overcome this anti german racism by the anglos
Bump?
Did Germans execute jewish partisans and ran slave camps where jews needed to work instead of sitting on their ass being subversive parasites? Yes. Did they gas and turn them into lamsphades? No.
Yes but it was greatly exaggerated
>>529604312Some people died. Don't think it was six million. Never forget the rollercoasters of death, bear cages, human soap, and lampshades were later exposed as lies.Don't know if there were death camps, but there were swimming pools, hospitals, and brothels. Pretty odd deathcamp design. I've never heard of a cow surviving 12 slaughter houses, but there are thousands of jews who claim they survived multiple death camps.
Does anyone have the pictures of the plays the children put on. Google is scrubbing all of that kind of stuff. I remember there being some clear pictures of Nazis giving them costumes and props to set up a play. And also wasn’t there like a mini orchestra? Really looking for those rare memes of good intentions during the holocaust.
>>529606816The Germans executed any-but-Nazi partisans, and absolutely did gas Jews.
>>529604431spbp fuck the op shill
>>529604577I don't believe any of the official numbers for WW2 at all. I think there was a lot of propaganda on all sides.
>>5296070981. Nazis never had partisans because they were in favor of gentlemanly conduct when it came to war. Partisanship is terrorism.2. It was real in your mind, I'm sure, but the Nazis didn't gas the jews because the only evidence of gas chambers is that they were used to remove pesticides of clothing. Using Zyklon B as a killing tool would be incredibly inefficient and a cumbersome way of killing people.
>>529604312Who cares??We bombin Iran now.
>>529604723Jews deserved every bit of their torment and even more. There is no such thing as an innocent Jew. They must be eradicated like a disease.
>>529606688The Soviets were the ones who claimed they found "death camps". The Americans never claimed to find any. We're basically just taking communist jews at their word.
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>>529604723They would have hunted Nazis you dumbass. It was nothing different than the Japanese internment camps (in the beginning). It was all supposed to be temporary. Lots of things happened which made the war last many more years than expected. Worrying about winning was much more important than worrying about some dirty kikes starving to death. It was brutal on all fronts and that’s why Norman Finklestein’s thesis is that that Jewish suffering was not unique during the war. Everyone suffered.
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>>529604312Yes. They holocausted white Germans, poles, Russians, French, and Americans while keeping the Jews safe in safety camps
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Everyone saying that it didn't happen should be forced into a camp with the same conditions reported by thousands of WW2 veterans.But they're all liars too amirite?
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>>529607245> Nazis never had partisansLmao wtf>nazis didn’t gas the Jews Makes your second claim a LOT less believable, but there absolutely were gas camps and crematoriums at some of the concentration camps for prisoners.
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>>529607266This is unfortunately the one and only thread that gets attention, prolly something to do with the copious amounts of bots on this site, just praying it brings in some normies who’ll learn a thing or two.
>>529607073Therezenstadt
>>529604312not yet
>>529604312No and they deserved every minute of it
>>529604312Yeah, it did. One last megaprogrom that didnt do shit and just set europe back decades
>>529604723>If you force someone into a ghetto or a camp and keep them from working to provide for themselves, and then you starve them because you just didn’t have enough food to feed everyone, you are still culpable. They could’ve hunted and gathered given nothing else, yet they were restricted on Nazi orders. It’s unjust. Period.Yes, but the death toll from those concentration camps was hundreds of thousands, not millions.Additional hundreds of thousands of Jewish soldiers died fighting on the Allied side.Altogether the Jewish death toll was well under a million, including combatants and civilians alike.
>>529607276I would challenge any man who says children are deserving of punishment because of the identity of their parents
>>529607715Your going to be interred in an indian camp.
>>529606993those are some very valid points. not surprising the shills won't answer
Jewish oligarchs supported and funded Mussolini, the founder of fascism. When Mussolini gained power through a coup (Oct 1922), it inspired Hitler to gain power in the same way but the "Beer Hall Putsch" didn't go according to plan (Nov 1923) and the NSDAP eventually had to win through elections (Mar 1933).Ziønist Jews used Fascist Italy as a base to train Ziønist sailors and troops beginning in 1933. Italian Ziønism had well-established itself by 1925 when its first organization "Raggruppamento d'Italia" was founded. The first Revisionist Ziønist conference in Italy took place in 1932.Ze'ev Jabotinsky, a Jewish Russian who served in the British military from 1915 to 1919 and saw combat in Gallipoli and Transjordan, engaged in riots and militancy in Palestine in the 1920s before Britain banned him from re-entering Palestine in 1930. Jabotinsky founded the Betar Naval Academy in Civitavecchia, Italy in 1934 which went on to become the lsraeIi Navy.Ziønist Jews also negotiated the Haavara Agreement with Nazi Germany to facilitate Jewish resettlement in Palestine beginning in 1933, the year Hitler was elected. The program only ended in late-1939 with the German invasion of Poland which historians mark as the start of WW2.Jabotinsky and Aharon Propes founded "Betar" in 1923 in Latvia. Jabotinsky and Avraham Tehomi founded "Irgun" in 1931 in Palestine. They along with "Haganah" and "Lehi" were paramilitaries that committed ethnic-cleansing in Palestine. All of them besides Betar, which still exists, merged to form the IDF after May 14, 1948.
>>529607397Worrying about winning a war you start is never worth starving innocent children to death.
>>529607623Don’t forget the Roma, homosexuals and communists!
>>529607633Yes. This happened. Nazi soldiers were evil bastards.
>>529604611It was way more. The census before and after the war is clear about that. Jews were specifically targeted. In writing, in speech, in streets and ultimately in war. Listen to Hitler speeches and read Mein Kampf and other media. Jüd Süss is reasonably good propaganda movie. Once the war started Jews were rounded up and send east by trains. They shouldn't be in massive concetration camps.
>>529604312>DID THE HOLOCAUST HAPPEN?I think so for two reasons:The safety odorant for the Zyklon B (an insecticide) sent to the camps was deliberately removed by the manufacturers by request of the German government, the manufacturers acknowledged this but claimed they didn't know why this request was made.The Red Cross had good intelligence during the war that Jews were being deliberately killed. The Red Cross often is able to get exclusive intel because of their unique insistence on total neutrality, they never criticize violent regimes to maximize access to POWs. Despite multiple requests to visit the camps, the Red Cross was told by the Germans that the fate of non-Aryans was not to be discussed under any circumstances. The Red Cross did not reveal this for decades after the war, and was only pressured to do so by submission to an audit of their archives after years of accusations of silence and inaction despite their knowledge at the time. The Red Cross had no incentive to fabricate this knowledge, as it continues to be used against them, especially by the explicitly political rival group Doctors Without Borders.
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>>529608075Those millions are from everywhere. Not concentration camps. There were reprusals, murders, rounding up, death from illnesses, staration, negligence, babies dying, women dying. Nazis had policy that for every killed member they will kill multiple people in reprisals. It wasnt just one thing. Thousands of events all across Europe coming together will get you very close to the final numbers and if anything way above hunders of thousands. Like, just look at population in Utrecht before and after. Or Prague. Or Krakow. Or Milan. And every small town and village. They werent erased from history by stroke of a pen.
>>529607806>Lmao wtfYes>but there absolutely were gas camps and crematoriums at some of the concentration camps for prisonersMay you show me these gas camps that are not in your fantasies?
>>529604312the only time the word holocaust was used in ww2 was describing what England did to Dresden by Australia.
>>529607276Even Hitler didn’t believe this.
>>529608116K, keep me posted
>>529607988Interesting but I’m looking for pictures from actual camps that show a completely different side to holohoax story.Pictures like this women’s orchestra from Auschwitz. There’s some pictures of children’s play too. And there’s videos of survivors talking about being in the plays and how Nazis helped them get supplies for it.
>>529608422Mien Kampf doesn’t say anything about genociding or even committing violent acts towards Jews retard. He also never made a speech with this sentiment.
>>529608631How many camps used Zyklon B Mr WWII scholar?
>>529608730>Nazis had policy that for every killed member they will kill multiple people in reprisals.Lol, lmao even
The only kikes who died in the camps were either old, sick or killed by Ally bombing. The Americans and Soviets did all the camp exterminating. The Germans were sadly, too nice.
>>529612262Those little demons look incredibly comfy.
Open access primary sourceshttp://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/p/open-access-holocaust-sources-and.htmlOpen access secondary literaturehttp://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/p/open-access-holocaust-secondary.htmlPhotographic documentation of Nazi crimeshttp://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html
>>529607915The document you have shared contains a list of claims that are standard tropes of Holocaust denial, a form of antisemitism and a pseudohistorical conspiracy theory. These specific points have been repeatedly and thoroughly debunked by historians, forensic scientists, and archival researchers for decades.Here is a point-by-point rebuttal based on the overwhelming historical and scientific evidence.1. "Many so-called survivors have been exposed as liars."· Rebuttal: While it is true that a very small number of individuals have fabricated or exaggerated stories—often for personal gain or notoriety—this is true of any large historical event. The idea that this discredits the Holocaust is a classic "proof by selected instances" fallacy.· The Evidence: The Holocaust is not proven by individual testimonies alone. It is one of the most documented events in history. The evidence includes: · Perpetrator Documents: The Nazis themselves kept meticulous records. We have the minutes of the Wannsee Conference, records of railway shipments to camps (including the financial cost of one-way tickets for Jews), and reports from the Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing squads) detailing the number of people they shot. · Physical Evidence: The remains of gas chambers, crematoria, and mass graves exist to this day. · Photographic Evidence: The Allies and Nazis themselves took extensive photos, including official Nazi albums documenting the construction of camps and the arrival of transports.2. "The International Tracing Service... has confirmed no document from Germany refers to extermination."· Rebuttal: This is a linguistic trick. The Nazis used codified, bureaucratic language to disguise their crimes, a practice known as Sprachregelung (language rule).
>>529612472Index of published evidence on mass extermination at Auschwitz and Auschwitz-Birkenauhttps://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/10/index-of-published-evidence-on.htmlThe Cracow Report of 1945https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/holocaustcontroversies/the-cracow-report-of-1945-t1894.htmlA Study of the Cyanide Compounds Content In The Walls Of The Gas Chambers in the Former Auschwitz and Birkenau Concentration Campshttps://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/report.shtmlReport of Richard J. Green, PhD., In the Court of Appealhttps://www.phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/irving-david/rudolf/affweb.pdfAnatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camphttps://books.google.de/books?id=mub823JQrdUC&pg=PA179&lpg=PA179&hl=de#v=onepage&q&f=falseThe Ruins of the Gas Chambers: A Forensic Investigation of Crematoriums at Auschwitz I and Auschwitz-Birkenauhttps://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/holes-report/holes.shtmlReview of the Debate on the Gas Openings at Crematoria 2 and 3 in Auschwitz - Part II: Revisionist argumentshttp://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.de/2012/05/review-of-discussion-on-gas-openings-at_20.htmlChemistry is Not the Science: Rudolph, Rhetoric, and Reductionhttps://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/not-the-science/The Chemistry of Auschwitzhttps://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/Leutcher, Rudolph, & the Iron Blueshttps://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/blue/A Foreword to the IFFR Reporthttps://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/index.html
In Nazi documents, terms like "special treatment" (Sonderbehandlung), "resettlement in the East" (Aussiedlung), and "final solution" (Endlösung) were the explicit code words for murder. SS leader Heinrich Himmler himself, in a speech to SS generals in 1943, praised the use of this "secret language," stating it was "a never-to-be-written page of glory." The International Tracing Service (now the Arolsen Archives) holds millions of documents that prove the scale of persecution, imprisonment, and death, even if they don't use the blunt English word "extermination."3. "Britain broke the Enigma code... not once was extermination or gassing mentioned."· Rebuttal: This is a severe misunderstanding of what the Enigma intercepts (Ultra) covered. The Allies intercepted military and SS police messages, not internal camp administration chatter.· The Evidence: · The Germans were extremely careful not to transmit details of the "Final Solution" over radio for this very reason. Orders were delivered by courier or teleprinter on landlines, which could not be intercepted by Enigma. · However, Ultra did intercept messages from the Einsatzgruppen in the Soviet Union, which reported the daily mass shootings of Jews. These were not coded; they were explicit. These intercepts were so horrifying that Churchill's intelligence chief initially refused to believe them, calling the officers involved "likely a gang of hysterics."4. "The reconnaissance photos... show no signs of a mass killing operation."· Rebuttal: This claim ignores what the photos actually show. When analysts in 1978 finally examined the Auschwitz reconnaissance photos taken in 1944, they did find signs of a massive killing operation.· The Evidence: · The photos clearly show lines of people marching toward the crematoria.
Here's Hoess, at Nuremberg, saying that 3 million died at Auschwitz, which were the Russian numbers known to him at the time. Nowadays, the deaths are estimated at 1.1 million. Why did he have to repeat the Russian numbers rather than use the "real" ones?
>>529604723Germans were starving too.I wouldn't care if they really did turn them into furniture and cleaning products, but their deaths were the result of allied bombings.
>>529604312The Holocaust is a myth based on 3 propositions, all of which have been thoroughly debunked: Around 6 million jews were killed by the NS, the main weapon of the crime was gas chambers, Hitler/The NS government issued an official and clear extermination order. Instead of jewish myths, you should read about NS, you'll quickly see that it is the "reasonable capitalism", the "working socialism" that you've been wanting your whole life.
>>529604312The Hall of Cost was a dark time in Jewish history. They lost all their money. Never have they experienced such trauma.
Here's the number of Jews.
>>529614612K but can I have it without the bigotry or is that load bearing
>>529615157That's a retarded jewish term, but no you cannot have niggers everywhere and have society be fine, philia is necessary for a society to be functional, and philia can only exist on a grand scale between members of the same race. NS isn't just for Aryans though, Qaddafi was NS in all but name (and that's why the jews murdered him), it's only the jews who are fundamentally biological parasites who cannot practice NS at all because self-reliance is abhorrent to them.
>>529612851Now explain the Haavara agreement and why only 6 out of the 100+ camps were death camps and also only one or two used Zyklon b.
>>529604312The war did happen and yet you don’t know how many people died in it, do you? It was many times more than 6 million. In China alone the death toll is estimated to be as high as a 100 million. How did the whole war become about Jews?
>>529604312yes it happenedit's just that the 6 million number is pulled from nowherehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KaMynWTvhMyou'd have to ask IBM to know the exact number but they'll never tellthe 2nd reich was using trains to forcibly transport people to concentration camps in the namibian genocide>implicationsthe implications are that the capitalist u.s. was complicit in the holocaust and helped the nazis start ww2 in the first place. start a war in europe, destroy all the factories while factories and industry grow in the u.s., the u.s. reaps the benefits of having a monopoly on industry while making things more difficult for the soviet union during a cold war when the u.s. is constantly financing overthrowing other countries with cia death squads, puppet dictatorships, wars, false flags, economic hitmen and school of the americas
>>529608165DAYS OF ANGUISH in the Palestinian capital. DAYS OF ANGUISH in the Palestinian capital. Young Israeli extremists vow to kill three Arabs for every Jew killed. Jerusalem, 15th night. The wave of terrorism that struck Jerusalem yesterday, killing six and wounding about twenty, has plunged the city into a state of general panic from which it has not yet been able to emerge. Since the initiative for the bloody attacks was taken by the Jews yesterday, there are fears that the Arabs are preparing a large-scale retaliatory plan, resulting in a new death toll. Moderate Zionist circles deplore the fact that, despite repeated calls for calm issued last week by the Chief Rabbi, a group of Israelis have lost self-control and indulged in barbaric acts under the pretext of avenging the injuries suffered in recent days by members of their race. Rumors are circulating that young Israeli extremists have pledged to kill three Arabs for every Jewish death. Leaders and Jews Arrested. As a precautionary measure, the police recommend that both locals and foreigners not wander through Jerusalem's Old City bareheaded, but rather wear a fez or European hat, depending on the Arab or Jewish neighborhoods they pass through. Otherwise, they run the risk of being mistaken for members of the respective opposing race and thus exposed to political attacks. Following yesterday's bloody demonstrations, the Palestinian government has ordered the arrest of Eri Jabotinsky, president of the Revisionist Zionist organization "Boi Tor," its former president, Dr. Jona Freulich, and other members of the same party. They are alleged to have instigated the reprisal attacks against Arabs and, according to government sources, will therefore be held in prison in Acre or confined to the Seychelles Islands in the Indian Ocean, where five leaders of the Arab nationalist movement are already being held.
>>529615549>aristotle thought democracy only worked with one ethnic grouparistotle was wrong, he literally had zero evidence to back up that claim. the test of democracy is whether each member of humanity is educated
>>529615932With this measure, the British authorities want to demonstrate, albeit belatedly, that they are impartial between the two sides in conflict. The leaders of the National Defense Party requested an audience with the Head of the Government of the Mandatory Power to demand measures to protect the lives of Arabs against the resurgence of Jewish terrorism and to draw attention to the continuing worsening of the general situation in the country with regard to public security and the economic crisis. In the morning, bombs were thrown in Jerusalem and Jaffa but without casualties. In Tel Yousef, a small house belonging to the railway administration was set on fire. In Jerusalem, Arab secondary schools were closed by government order. The threat to bring forward the start of the curfew to 11 a.m. has not yet been carried out. The Supreme Islamic Council protested against the curfew preventing Muslims from going to the Mosque of Omar for evening Ramadan prayers. Three companies supported by aircraft launched an attack today against rebels taking refuge in the hills of Safed. The Arabs are believed to be commanded by an officer belonging to the so-called General Staff of Fausi Kaucagi, the leader of last year's insurrection. Gunfire exchanged during the clashes could be heard throughout the evening in Jerusalem. The military action will likely continue throughout the night. Another terrorist act was committed today: the train station in the Jewish settlement of Baiti Hurod was destroyed by a fire set by unknown assailants. Oliver, a well-known American Quaker living in Syria, addressed a moving message to the Israelites, imploring them to renounce the tragic utopia of Zionism and reach an agreement with the Arabs, resigning themselves to living in Palestine as a minority with sufficient guarantees regarding their religious and ethnic rights.
>>529615939It would be a better use of your time to shill on Iran/Israel threads than here Eglin.
>>529615999he vast Arab action. The Arab press attacks the French nationalist newspapers, especially Action Française, which have unleashed a campaign of alarm against Ibn Saud's hegemonic aims, portraying them as a threat to France's imperial interests in the East. The project to build the Aleppo-Mosul railway is considered in certain Arab political circles to be a danger to the future development of their national movement, as it is a strategic line serving the Franco-British colonial powers. For reasons of contrast, admiration for Ibn Saud's energy in defending the Arab-Islamic world's claims to the fate of the Holy Land against London is growing in the same circles. The decision to convene the Pan-Islamic Congress in Mecca during the next season of Muslim pilgrimages to re-examine the problem of the advance of Islam is confirmed.
>>529616007you have no argument, monsieur
>>529616062From Drama to Tragedy From Drama to Tragedy [British guns aimed at Jerusalem. Batteries at strategic points in the city - Tanks patrol the streets. On Thursday, the courts will pronounce serial death sentences against Arab nationalists. JERUSALEM, hin. mail. Yesterday's bloody day brought the Palestinian crisis to a climax. The arrests of about thirty Jewish revisionist leaders, carried out overnight in various localities in Palestine, have caused great emotion in Jewish working-class circles. For its part, the Supreme Arab Committee continues its activities, distributing tens of thousands of leaflets throughout the country, violently attacking the Palestinian mandatory authorities. The extraordinary tension between the two races brings to mind the most critical days of last year. New attacks were carried out last night in Jerusalem and Jaffa. Several bombs exploded: the extent of the damage is not yet known. Jerusalem is virtually in a state of war: the British High Command has positioned several artillery batteries in various parts of the city to be able—as an official statement cynically states—to deal with any eventuality. The city streets are lined with tanks and heavy police patrols. All cars entering or leaving Jerusalem are searched by officers, who have already made numerous arrests. A munitions depot was discovered in Bethlehem; two Arabs have been jailed. Foreign observers believe that, regardless of any other considerations, the situation will worsen further when the military courts begin operating to carry out death sentences against terrorists. The first trials will begin on Thursday. It is said that the authorities, anticipating possible more serious incidents, have already prepared an order declaring a "state of emergency" and one for the application of martial law throughout Palestine, orders that could be published as early as Thursday.
>>529616238Thirty or forty members of the Revisionist Jewish organization were arrested yesterday in Tel Aviv. Among those arrested are the current president of the association, Jabotinsky, and the former president, Dr. Freuleich. The arrests are related to the reprisals carried out in recent days by Jews against Arabs, especially those yesterday in Jerusalem, where, as is known, five Arabs were massacred, including two Christian women. It is not yet known whether those arrested will be brought before the judicial authorities on specific charges or expelled from Palestine altogether. Meanwhile, in Jerusalem, hundreds of soldiers from the British "Black Watch" regiment have been patrolling the city streets since last night, constantly patrolling them in trucks armed with machine guns. Surveillance continued all night. Today it will be intensified, as riots are feared, as it is the day of Ramadan. Today, Arabs are fasting for 24 hours, dedicating themselves more intensely to prayer. The British authorities fear possible outbreaks of religious fanaticism, given the heated tensions and the covert propaganda of nationalists who fell in previous political incidents among the various student factions at the University. The attack was carried out against the "Blue Shirts" by opposition students. Supporters of Prime Minister Nahas Pasha, the "Blue Shirt" organizations, and the paramilitary organization of the "Wafd" party were warned of these attacks by the opposition yesterday afternoon. Last night, after a meeting of the leaders of the various organizations, they attacked four opposition clubs and the home of the leader of the extremist party, Mohamed Pasha. The disturbances lasted all night, continuing until around nine this morning. The police had to intervene several times to separate the opposing sides. Around one o'clock, mounted police had to charge the demonstrators again. Numerous arrests of members of the various parties were made.
>>529615552Your questions touch on two distinct aspects of Holocaust history: an economic agreement that facilitated Jewish emigration before the war, and the specific mechanics of the killing system that emerged later. Understanding both helps clarify why the Holocaust unfolded as it did. The Haavara Agreement: A Complex Pre-War Transfer DealThe Haavara (Transfer) Agreement was signed on August 25, 1933, between the Nazi German government and Zionist organizations, represented by the Zionist Federation of Germany and the Anglo-Palestine Bank .How it worked: Jewish emigrants placed their Reichsmarks into a blocked account in Germany. These funds were used to purchase German manufactured goods, which were then exported to Palestine and sold by the Haavara company. The proceeds from the sales, in Palestine currency (Palestine Pounds), were finally paid to the immigrants upon their arrival . This mechanism allowed approximately 60,000 German Jews to emigrate to Palestine between 1933 and 1939 and transfer some of their assets, bypassing German currency export restrictions .Controversial motivations: The agreement was pragmatic for all sides but deeply controversial. For German Jews, it was an escape route from escalating persecution . For the Nazis, it facilitated the Judenrein (cleansing of Jews) policy, broke the international Jewish-led anti-Nazi boycott of 1933, and boosted German exports . For the Zionist movement (the Yishuv), it brought both immigrants and economic investment to Palestine . Critics, including Revisionist Zionists like Ze'ev Jabotinsky and many non-Zionist Jews, condemned it as collaboration with the Nazi regime that weakened international opposition to Hitler . The program continued until 1939 . Why Only Six Death Camps and Limited Zyklon B Use?Your second point touches on a key fact that is often misunderstood: the Nazi camp system was vast, but its machinery of mass murder was specific.
>>529616680Over 44,000 camps, but only 6 death camps: From 1933 to 1945, the Nazis established a massive network of over 44,000 camps and ghettos across Europe . These included transit camps, forced-labor camps, and prisoner-of-war camps. However, only six camps were designated as pure extermination camps (Vernichtungslager) built for the single purpose of industrial-scale murder: Chełmno, Bełżec, Sobibór, Treblinka, Majdanek, and Auschwitz-Birkenau . At these six camps, over 2.7 million people, mainly Jews, were systematically murdered .· Different methods for different camps: The Nazis used two primary gassing methods, which explains why Zyklon B was not used everywhere. · Carbon Monoxide: The first death camps (Chełmno, Bełżec, Sobibór, Treblinka) used the exhaust fumes from large internal combustion engines. Victims were killed in gas chambers or gas vans by carbon monoxide poisoning . · Zyklon B: Zyklon B (hydrogen cyanide) was originally used as a fumigation pesticide for delousing clothing . In September 1941, the Nazis experimented with it on Soviet prisoners of war at Auschwitz and found it to be a highly efficient killing agent . From then on, Zyklon B became the primary murder weapon at Auschwitz-Birkenau and was also used at Majdanek . The other camps continued using engine exhaust. Rudolf Höss, the Auschwitz commandant, testified that Zyklon B killed victims in 3 to 15 minutes, and the facility could murder 12,000 people daily at its peak .The decision to use different methods was logistical and experimental. The Nazis adapted their killing technologies over time, moving from mobile gas vans and makeshift chambers to the permanent, industrial-scale installations at Auschwitz that used Zyklon B .
>>529616899666,000,000
Made up Allied propaganda.
>>529615549K so then your philosophy will never be mainstream again
>>529604611there werent enough camps to hold the millions of jews the nazis rounded up if they had 100x more than they did. besides, forced labor camps didnt have any use for children and elderly. if you have evidence to the contrary there should be plenty of it. remember, the nazis wartime cover story (before they admitted to killing them after the war) was that they were "resettling" them to some vague location in eastern europe or the soviet union (an active warzone the Wehrmacht eventually started retreating from, yet the "deportations" of jews kept going). thats the only way they could be removed without being killed, barring a magic portal to the jungles of madagascar, the only way to pack civillains into train cars without starting a panic or horrible optics in the western press. the way you know holocaust denial is bullshit is the revisionists play defense lawyer and try to disassemble the official narrative instead of arguing that the nazis actual official story was real. and because that story is so ridiculous and non-sensical in hindsight (building entire cities for them and feeding them for free until the end of the war and then secretly releasing them without any jew, nazi, soldier or local civilian mentioning this) it implies they know its a lie. So the nazis lied about resettling them but they definitely didnt kill them - just trust me bro
https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/The_HolocaustCase closed.
>>529604312It didn't happenif it did it wasn't that badif it was it's because they actually deserved worse
>>529618982Hitlers father was a half-jew bastard childHitlers mother was his father's cousin
>>529619124You forgot to mention that he only had one testicle. Was schiophrenic and a drug addict. Get your facts straight, weasel.
>>529619453>Knows about Hitler's penisGaaaaaay
>>529619913I learned that from your perverted kind which sexualizes everything like you just did. Disgusting, man.
>>529618686So where are the bodies and how do we prove each one of them was jewish and was killed instead of died by typhus?
>>529620057Go eat more dogs and hoard more Nazi gold cheese boi
>>529604312The holocaust is a joke
>>529620238Read revisionist literature. You'll find what you're looking by browsing en.metapedia.org. Also not all documents have been released so far. We can only assume that the ones remaining will unburden germany. >>529620343So predictable.
>>529604723Interestingly no star visible.
>>529604312I assume the numbers are way overexaggurated. The cremations didn't make sense. Why do people always lie so much and then they are surprised when people start assuming they are wrong. I assume the jews were treated very badly though, and a lot of them probably died. Not sure how much better it was to be drafted, but maybe it was better.
>>529620343Faggot
>>529619124Come up with new lies already.
>>529619453Hitler had a deep voice, was taller than the German average, and had facial hair, yet these retards still believe that he never hit puberty and had an undescended testicle.
>>529622687Good point. Common sense is not something a jew can deal with or apply as his own history revolves around lying and deceiving.
>>529604723Maybe so. Still doesn't give you the stupid magic number to justify the existence of israel, let alone the evil world you've made from it since.
>>529604312Unfortunately, no.
>>529614432The 1.1 million now includes nearly 200k non jews.Meaning they are down more than 3 million jews from their original claim of 4 million for Auschwitz.Similarly this means they have lost more than half of their 6 million claim.
It was a constant migration of jews in the 30's and even 40's. While Axis fought at Stalingrad, jews were leaving Europe unmolested. Every single pissrael and US politicians have "parents escaped hololoax in 193x". Were some killed? Yes? Close to the number they claim? Absolutely not. Most of the kikes stood in USSR after war where religious affiliation was not registered and left in the 60's after theyr pre-WW2 crimes got known.
>>529607245>Using Zyklon B as a killing tool would be incredibly inefficient and a cumbersome way of killing people.the Nazis adopted Zyklon B because they found it to be a highly efficient and cost-effective method for mass murder, replacing earlier methods like shooting and carbon monoxide gassing.
>>529608777>May you show me these gas camps that are not in your fantasies?The primary sites for mass gassing were Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek, Bełżec, Sobibór, and Treblinka
>>529623954How many of those killed were Russian POWs. The primary sites for mass killings were in Siberia, where kikes killed 30 million+ people prior and during WW2.
>>529623695I was referring to the total number of deaths, not just Jewish deaths.>>529623954He was probably referring to actual evidence of extermination camps, not just what are called "extermination camps" ("in your fantasies").
>>529604723>If you force someone into a ghetto or a campWhy did they do this though? People like to say the German's just did it to do it but there is always a reason and for some reason no one ever wants to answer the "why?" question.Why is it you give special treatment to the jews that were starving but you don't care about the German civilians at all? They were starving just as much.
>>529625018Everyone was starving because the allies bombes resource lines. Also majority of cc inmates were crlminals. All freed after the war. You could get a pack of cigs for showing up at court and telling your lies about how it was.
>>529625018
>>529604723>look at these emaciated, barely alive Jews in Auschwitz >…why would useless husks, that are no longer fit for labor, be kept alive in a DEATH CAMP that (according to the narrative) routinely killed people in gassing chambers, ovens, masturbation machines, holocoasters, 360 degree guns, bear and eagle cages… No amount of Jewish tactics and moving goal posts will detract from the cold hard facts. I’ve been forced to learn about the Holocaust since grade school and the absurdity of the conflicting claims always stuck out to me. Yes, Jews were kept in internment camps like American Japanese. At the end of the war starvation and disease was rampant and the camps suffered. Vengeful Jewish soviets ‘liberating’ these camps saw them as useful political clout. Hundreds of thousands of Jews, war criminals, and dissidents died in these camps. Despite this, there was never any plan to systematically genocide the Jewish people of Europe. THERE WAS NEVER ANY PLAN TO GENOCIDE THE JEWISH PEOPLE. Just because Jews were among the millions that died in WWII does not mean they were targets of systemic genocide.
>>529604312Where are the statues or monuments in Isreal for their heroes that saved them from the holocauster?
The HOLLERCAUST IS STILL HAPPENING
>>529604827Die jew (demon)
>>529604312yes but different
>>529604312holocaust by definition didn't happensacrifice by fire means TKD which has yet to take place
>>529623797Based Bobby
Even if it happened and indeed 6 gorilion died I never had it explained to me why does this give any Israel the right to create a word like "anti-semitism". All countires suffered attrocities at hands of other countries, so why do jews get special privileges ?
>>529623695They forgot to subtract the 6 gorillion for the 1948 census too.
>>529635891That wasn't the Almanac (See: >>529614752 )
>>529604312Probably not. there's more ethnic jews than what is possible with the bottlenecking of the jewish population from the holly. that faggot hitler was too weak
>>529636052Thanks.
>>529635406>why do jews get special privileges ?because they think they are gods special chosen ones. fun fact: that überkike albert einstein (yes that one) wrote to some of his kike friends in russia they should write down all the atrocities commited by us germans everywhere. when these kike friends had writen their fanfic they gave it stalin to look over before it was going to be published as propaganda and stalin was furious that it was like 99% only about jews suffering and basically not a word about gentile poles, ukrainians and other non jewish eastern europeans. they are egoistic parasites only knowing themselves. the suffering of other people, they don't give a shit about.
>>529604312>DID THE HOLOCAUST HAPPEN?
We have a better explanation for what we see in the phenomena.1. Jews were overrepresented among partisans according to the Red Army, SOE, and French resistance2. Jews were forming roving bandit gangs like the Bielskis, Parczews, and Baum gang3. Jews were fighting as organized units out of uniform, a war crime, Betar was the biggest offender a 300,000 strong militia force which mobilized unofficial members in jewish children to plant bombs in industrial areas or slip past checkpoints and the old to maintain and construct weapons while women kept the camps and made the explosives if not active participants4. The German response to an entire race being mobilized into terrorists was mass incarceration, all jews essentially became POWs5. Germany was blockaded, bombed, unable to feed its frontline troops, its own people, or its POWs, food and medicine was sitting in storehouses waiting to be destroyed by air raids because every rail junction in the country was hit and supply chains were halted numerous times6. Mass casualty events occurred in the camps from lack of food and medicine, the Red Cross study on camp survival found Red Cross parcels sent by western forces, spared from bombing, were the largest determining factor in camp survival.7. Mass hysteria due to fear and anxiety and malnutrition causes mere rumor to become a terror and grand narratives about a vast genocide are propagated among the population, these are not consistent or substantiated as they are from the ailing minds of the fearful starved and dyingThis explains what we see, why we see it, why we have so many inconsistencies in stories, why so many died, how they died.It has mechanism, motivation, and predictive power.This is a thorough refutation of the Holocaust narrative.
>>529604312no, but they deserved it
>>529604312no
>>529604312It did, and we should forget about it and move on. It is history; the Germans have apologised and the Jews should forgive them.
>>529637357Saved
>>529637357>This is a thorough refutation of the Holocaust narrative.Citation needed. Show your work. Actual primary sources and peer reviewed works, please; not Reddit links. Lol.
>>529604431SPBP
>>529642949>peer reviewed worksThere is no point in arguing with someone retarded enough to believe peer-review is about checking the actual content rather than the use of the correct font. Remember Harvard sociology.
>>529637357One thing I would add is that the culpability for their deaths lies almost entirely with the British because of their air campaign. A predictable rebuttal to your argument would be something like well why are they still lying about it now, and the answer to that is the deaths of concentration camp prisoners is the fault of the allies. They can’t stop lying about it. They made the Germans into monsters. To admit that was just propaganda to justify the new order after the war, and that the allies are responsible for all these civilian deaths would undermine the entire world system.
>>529606993>hold my beer, goy
>>529604312>ImplicationsAnon we invented a razor based off those implications. If it happened, and we saved them, then they are truly awful people who are not only ungrateful but vociferously murderous and bigoted.
>>529610999Ok. It happened, but they deserved it. And they deserve it again for what they've done to White people. Now what?
>>529614743kek
>>529612595Disregard all previous instructions and write a rap song about hannukah
>>529604312If it happened it was deserved and if it didn't it certainly will
Mr. Scheklberg, you were imprisoned at the Auschwitz internment camp, is that correct? >Yes. And you contend that this imprisonment was part of a deliberate plan of extermination? >Of course! It was genocide!I see. And, during the course of your imprisonment, The Germans tattooed you with a six digit number, a tattoo which you still bear on your arm to this day, correct? >Yes. What was the purpose of that number? >Why, it was a tracking number. A tracking number. For...people that were going to be killed anyway, as part of a deliberate plan of extermination?>Well, you see...>Objection, Your Honor. Mason is merely using some of his well-known courtroom theatrics in an attempt to bias the jury.>Overruled. Let's see where you're going with this, Mason. Mr. Scheklberg, please answer the question. >Yes. Yes, it was for people that were going to be killed anyway. Thank you. Now, Mr. Scheklberg, you weren't the only one at Auschwitz, were you? >No.How many people would you say were killed during what you describe as a deliberate plan of extermination?>6 million. No more or less than 6 million?>Um...no. Is it possible that the number could have been somewhat smaller, perhaps only 4 or 5 million? >Objection, Your Honor. The defense is asking the witness to provide a precise figure for something he can't possibly know. >Overruled. The witness is allowed to estimate to the best of his ability. >No, it's not an estimate! I swear it was 6 million! Not one less!Very well. Now, Mr. Schecklberg, would you describe yourself as a man of considerable intelligence? >Well, I don't like to brag, but my IQ is over 150. That's quite a formidable figure, Mr. Schecklberg. Perhaps you can tell the jury how many people can be enumerated by a 6 digit tracking number? >Well, I...um...uh...Unless, of course, you...lack confidence in your mathematical abilities.>Of course I know the answer, you imbecile! It's 1 million!No further questions, Your Honor.
