How can Christians ever recover?Do Christcucks know that both Islam and Judaism view Christians as polytheistic because of the concept of Trinity - absent from the bible and added in the council of Nicaea?
Christianity = following CHRIST's teachings and putting them into practice in your daily lifeChrist did not teach Trinity, so this is not Christianitythere are many Atheists nowadays calling themselves Christians. be careful. to call yourself Christian doesn't make you a Christianif you look at a person and see Christ in him, then you're before a Christian
>>529788750Death to Abrahamism
>>529788750that's true. jews and muslims refer to christians as "filthy idolaters"
>>529788750My holy book doesn't have a section about my messianic figure getting gangraped by jeets, so I think I win.
>>529788750I can beat all of humanity in chess. Shut up.
>>529788750>absent from the bible calm down, achmed
Why is it considered so bad to be polytheistic anyway? How did it come to be so uncool among desert theists to have more than one god?
>>529789570Me no muslim, parents are non-practicing Catholics and I'm irreligious>>529789491True, a Jew can enter and pray in a Mosque but not in a Church because that's considered idolatry.
>>529789679It's not so bad until you pick a fight with a monotheist.
>>529789243>>Christ did not teach Trinity, so this is not ChristianityThe Trinity concept was invented to describe the Jesus' relationship with God and the paradox of God watching from the heavens while still being on Earth (through the Holy Spirit). It's why it wasn't taught, it was discovered through analyzing just who Jesus Christ was.
>Muslim still crying about the trinity, when his retard prophet outright stated that he thought Christians believed the trinity to be Jesus, Father, and MaryYour religion is simply not credible
>>529789657Still not Trinity per se. Some clerics literally added 1 John 5:7 to King's James Bible because the doctrine of Trinity was missing. (Not present in modern editions.) "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
>>529789959The one God can also be Trinity. It's called Omnipresent.
>>529789570Why do you think they edited out almost all of christ's life until he was 30?
>>529790046So he's a Quaternary too?
>>529790257The Almighty God is my wife.
>>529788750Anyone who believes in and reveres Jesus is automatically saved. That means Muslims go to heaven.Jews do not as they rejected the Messiah. That’s why Judea was destroyed in 70AD.
>>529789959>show him matthew >..."baptize in the NAME of (singular, not nameS) the father, son, and holy spirit">BUT 1 john 5-7!!!!! >no. matthew. >BUT NO WAIT! kek quit watching dawah vids lad
>>529788750How are you supposed to know if trinity is true or not, except that the bible vaguely implies implications. The rhetoric does not rely on pure reason, even though they pretend it does.
>>529790426Like Carlin said, somebody's full of shit here. Could it be... everybody?
>>529790375>muslims go to heaven islamic heaven, possibly. christian heaven? kek, no.
>>529790400That doesn't mean that all those names are 3 persons of one god.Next fallacious straw grasp please
>>529790609>Like Carlin saidThat anon the other day was right. Everybody who idolizes Carlin is always a massive faggot.
>>529790426It doesn’t matter if you believe in the trinity or the unity. As long as you believe in Jesus, you are saved.>I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
>>529790740Name, not names. I know you're trying here, mahmoud. it's just not coming together.
>>529790839>baptizing them in the name of the father>AND of the son>AND of the holy spiritSounds like multiple names to me fucktard
>>529791125You are too stupid to comprehended Omniscience.
>>529791125>I don't understand the trinityWe know. It's 3 distinct persons, 1 God.
>>529788750Don't care muzzie
>>529788750It feels like a really silly argument of semantics when discussing the nature of an omnipotent being.
>>529791213Any being with limited knowledge would be. Including yourself. So just trust the jews from 2000 years ago who spelled it all out for you
>>529791125>in the name of...>NO IT SAYS NAMESSSS!!!!! >no. it says "name" (singular) >NOOOOO MY SHEIKH DAWAH ON FISCORD TOLD ME IT WASNT THERE!!!!! run along lad. the dawah livestreams are beginning.
>>529789839Epstein flag spottedThis is a nice way of phrasing,>We realized afterward that a critical part of our theology is self-contradictory so we came up with an even bigger lie to cover up that one
>>529791383I am not dumb, you are. That's why you can't undertand God.
>>529791460Except the pre-incarnate Christ was already present in the OT. Reading The Bible is better than getting your information from /pol/ meme pics.
>>529790815People believe it because The Jesus said it, but those words alone should ring true without him, no? If you or i said the same thing, we'd be heretics.
>>529791788People believe it, because the Holy Spirit is real. Without it, you're on your own and incapable of understanding.
>>529791857>the Holy Spirit is real.To you
MY FELLOW PROUD SHIA MUSLIM WARRIORS DO NOT WORRY, THE NEW BUT NOW EX SUPREME LEADER WAS ABLE TO FINISH THE RITE OF ALZUTT BEFORE HIS PASSING IN HONOR OF THE PROPHET (pajeets bust upon him).
>>529791726>Except the pre-incarnate Christ was already present in the OT.
>>529791857There's a lot of things you dont understand either, that you'll just dismiss. So what is really different here.
>>529788750The holy Trinity can only be understood by white people. God's rules not mine sorry.
>>529791726Even if we granted that, it doesn't have anything to do with my post. If the concept is so important why isn't it in the book?The original Christians were fine with Jesus being a man, it's called Arianism, but later Christians wanted to be able to say he was also divine himself, but that comes with the obvious problem of now having two gods instead of one, which was le bad for some reason. So they came up with this ridiculous concept that God is two things but also one thing at the same time. And it's not described in the Bible because of that, and probably also because Saul just didn't think about it hard enough.
>>529792042Objectively real, retardTruth Love and Courage are divine, guess which part of God is which?Denying any of the 3 is profane and leads you to Luciferianism
I dont understand why any of this is supposed to matter to me as a christian. literally who cares what what jews and Muslims have to say about Christianity?
There's no remission of sins in Islam. No mediator. No salvation
>>529788750Truth Nuke. Trinitarianism is the biggest psyop of all time. At least high IQ Christians like Isaac Newton rejected that shit.
>>529792042You wouldn't know the tangible reality of the Holy Spirit, because you have no belief in Christ. For all this crying out for evidence, The Bible explictly presents the HS as something that can be observed, felt, and revealed that goes outside anything you could accomplish on your own. The problem is that belief is too hard or "not worth it" for the common naysayer, so they'll never get the evidence laid on their lap. >>529792273The Son is not The Father. >>529792286Christ is the truth. Everything else falls in line when you've accepted that into your heart. >>529792380>If the concept is so important why isn't it in the book?It is in the book, and there's no "hiding" of Jesus proclaiming Himself as God. Doctrinal development only occurs when the book itself is studied and the spirit leads. There is no "Trinity" doctrine if the book doesn't have it.
>>529792090mashallah, fellow sister of ummah
>>529791460>>We realized afterward that a critical part of our theology is self-contradictory so we came up with an even bigger lie to cover up that oneMoreso,> here's an event that happened where multiple witnesses attested that two things happened simultaneously yet contradict each other, how do we explain it?And anon, every moral value you have came from Christianity. The concept of hospitals and charity were popularized by Christianity. The idea of sharing education with all (aka university towns) came from Christianity. The church funded sciences and your country was built firmly around Christianity. Everything you know to true and good comes from Christianity. More importantly, we already have seen what the demise of Christian practices has done to the country. What do have you to show for it now that you've been freed from religion's oppressive shackles? Show me anon, show me.
>>529792542>It is in the book,Where is the concept of the Trinity in the pages of the Bible?>>529792933>What do have you to show for it now that you've been freed from religion's oppressive shackles? Show me anon, show me.Absolute reddit.
>>529792933Good book
>>529793162>The Father, The Son, and The Holy SpiritJesus is The Word made flesh. The Word is God. So, why is the Holy Spirit on the level with God? Because the Holy Spirit is God. There you go, it's simple. It's not "The Father, The Son, and featuring special guest star Holy Spirit".
>>529792380>The original Christians were fine with Jesus being a man, it's called Arianism, but later Christians wanted to be able to say he was also divine himself, but that comes with the obvious problem of now having two gods instead of one, which was le bad for some reason. So they came up with this ridiculous concept that God is two things but also one thing at the same time. And it's not described in the Bible because of that, and probably also because Saul just didn't think about it hard enough.Athanasius won heretic. You should be burnt at the stake. homoousios forever!
>>529788750It's just 2 different ways of looking at the same thing, conflict is pointless. Christhood is synonymous with Al-Insan Al-Kamil, and Al-Khidr (The Green One), who is modeled on a much older middle eastern dying-and-rising figure, represents the same death and resurrection that Jesus preached. All Sufis aim to go through this death and resurrection, and Al-Khidr is Osiris, who is also known as the Green One. Al-Insan Al-Kamil=Akh, an immortal who has resurrected in the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
>>529788750Ephesians 4:5-6King James Version5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.Need more?
>>529788750>>529789959You know what isn't a question in our scriptures?Whether or not Jesus got ZUTTED. Of all the questions we ask about Him, we don't need to wonder if or defend against the possibility that He had a gay orgy with black men.
>>529792469Sat-Chit-Ananda. Christianity outlines the 3 aspects of the Ground, Islam just names the Dharmakaya/Brahman/Amun outright.
>>529791271>It's 3 distinct personsSounds like polytheism>It's 3 distinct modes of GodCan be monotheism. But the council of Nicaea ruled against Arianism and made 95% of Christian denominations including Lutheranism and Calvinism idolatry.
>>529788750>absent from the biblePeople read genesis 1:1 and think they've read the whole Bible, they dont realise that in Genisis 1:2 the Bible speaks of The Holy Spirit.
>>529789243>Christ did not teach TrinityIts nearly like reading the Bible could correct these misconceptions.>Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
>>529794369>Sounds like polytheismNobody cares what you think, since you're appealing to Shitslam of all things to try to throw shade on the Trinity. That's a (You) problem, not with the doctrine itself.
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>>529788750Islam thinks Jesus went to heaven without dying as if that makes sense
>>529794369>Lutheranism and CalvinismAre trinitarian denominations.They believe in the triune God spoken of in the Bible.
>>529795056Philippians 2:6-8 shows how God humbled Himself into the form of man as Jesus, so it isn't "Jesus isn't God", but that the Father's position in Heaven is greater than Jesus's earthly presence. Has nothing to do with Jesus's divine nature. John 10:30:>“I and the Father are one”
>>529795103Elijah went to heaven without dying, but Muslims say this to take people away from the protection of the cross. If you deny the sacrifice Jesus made for us then you deny Him as your Saviour.Its not enough to believe Jesus was a "good man." In any case like C.S Lewis said, if Jesus isnt the living God, hes a liar, or a madman.There is no middle ground. Lord, liar or lunatic. Theres no room for "he was a good man." If he was a man he was insane or just a liar.He is The living God.
>>529788750>Do Christcucks know that both Islam and Judaism view Christians as polytheistic because of the concept of Trinityyes the Holy Trinity is best subhuman filter in existence, The greatest IQ test ever invented.
>>529788750>trinity =/= tripleBut what's really funny is the complete fucking retard who "revealed" the quran thought the trinity was allah, Miriam, and Isa.
>>529795326Ah a chariot of fire you say?
>>529795521Yes.Do you know why God didnt allow Elijah to die?
>>529792383>Objectively real, retardNope lol
>>529795579No I really don't. Was this concerning the whirlwind kidnapping
>>529792542>You wouldn't know the tangible reality of the Holy SpiritNeither do you, it's why it's always based on personal feelings >>529792542>The Son is not The FatherJesus isn't God?
>>529795764It's because Elijah still has to die, but at a time appointed by God. It's probably because Elijah asked to die and God told him that he can die when He's done with him.
>>529795773>Neither do you, it's why it's always based on personal feelingsYou just confirmed my argument.>The problem is that belief is too hard or "not worth it" for the common naysayer, so they'll never get the evidence laid on their lap. >>529795773>Jesus isn't God?Even a cursory wikipedia article reading of the trinity would lead you to not asking such a stupid question
>>529795773Why does God appear to Abraham as three men?
>>529788750>both Islam and Judaism view Christians as polytheisticIt is like two special olympics contestants bullying another special olympics contestant.
>>529795938Wow that's actually a good reason. The Bible has good world building
>>529795103>In 3 Enoch (The Hebrew Book of Enoch), Enoch's ascension is a detailed mystical journey where he is transformed into the angelic being Metatron, experiencing the celestial realms and the divine throne, moving from earthly existence to becoming a heavenly scribe and prince>The Etana myth from ancient Mesopotamia features a world tree (often a poplar) with an eagle nesting at the top and a snake living at its roots; they initially coexisted, but the eagle betrayed their oath by eating the snake's young, leading the sun god Shamash to punish the eagle, who is later rescued by King Etana, who then rides the eagle to the heavens to find the "plant of birth," symbolizing a quest for kingship and progeny. Etana ascends up the tree by riding the eagle. By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.Hebrews 3:11The tree is Yggdrasil, which is within yourself. The tree of life, if you prefer that term. Ride the Thunderbird.
>>529796021>You just confirmed my personalfeelingsFtfy>>529796021>Even a cursory wikipedia article reading of the trinity would lead you to not asking such a stupid questionAh youre one of those Christians. Isn't that a fringe belief?
>>529796025Why would a cow jump over the moon?
>>529788750Monotheism was a concept alien to Christ and the apostles. It was invented by Jews and Muslims long after Christianity had explicated trinitarian theology. First and second temple jews were essentially henotheistic, with a belief in many gods, one of which, Yahweh, was the Most High; the God of gods, so-to-speak. Yahweh Himself was presented in the Torah with a dualistic nature. He was at once infinite and inconceivable, and worldly and incarnate. When Christ claimed to be the Son of God, this wasn't a new concept to Second Temple Jews. They saw this incarnate person of God in the Garden of Eden, with Abraham at the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and throughout the Old Testament. The only real novel contribution by Christianity to this notion of God's multiplicity was that of the Holy Spirit, which has a few hints in the Old Testament, like the Spirit of God in Genesis 1, but wasn't something that was as clear on Second Temple Jews' radar. The revelation of the Holy Spirit by Christ was timely, because He is embodied in Christ's Church, which wasn't a thing in pre-Christian Judaism.
>>529796403>The Book of Enoch>>529796480You can vet all the testimonies online in relation to the intercession of the Holy Spirit with people, and find the commonalities between them, but we both know you won't. Stop wasting my time with this pointless scoffing.
>>529795938That's an interesting interpretation. But it would mean that Elijah did already die when John the Baptist was beheaded.Matthew 17:12-13But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
>>529789243>Christ did not teach Trinity, so this is not ChristianityJesus's own words:>I and my Father are one.>Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy GhostDisciple's words:>[Addressing Jesus] And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.>Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?
>>529796632>and find the commonalities between them,Sure, out of the 30k different versions of Christianity lmao
>>529789679because religion is ridiculous and religion with multiple gods is extra ridiculous.monotheism can be made to sound somewhat plausible.
>>529796545>Monotheism was a concept alien to Christ and the apostlesVade retro, SATANAS.
>>529796632Yes, but Enochs ascension is referenced in Hebrews, like I pointed out. He became an Akh, see >>529793542The Ankh represents eternal life, an Akh is one who has gained it. The story originates from the Sumerian tale of Etana.
>>529796802I didn't know God was beholden to institutions and not believers. You're lazy, especially in your redditor quips. Enjoy the world as it stands, it's going great, isn't it? Who needs Christ anyway?
>>529796089Its just atheist have had numerous opportunities to build a successful society and they all suck. Portland, Oregon? Tranny garbage. LA? Tranny garbage. Seattle? Jeets and tranny trash. Its like this anywhere where the prevailing belief is atheism
>>529790375As OP's picture shows, Islam denies the divinity of Jesus and therefore the fact that He is the Christ. Muslims are therefore Antichrist. Antichrist will not go to heaven. This is elementary.
>>529796943>I didn't know God was beholden to institutions and not believers.Kek they say the same thing, lmao>Enjoy the world as it stands, it's going great, isn't it? Another day in paradise :^)>Who needs Christ anyway?You do, and that's cool duder. You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>529797150>Another day in paradise :^)You wouldn't be on /pol/ if that was the case. Good luck to you. Stop being such an anklebiting shit in the future and keep an open mind.
>>529788750>Recognizing different aspects of the same god is polytheisticShit man, I guess the pregnant Athenian praying to Artemis so she'd have an easy birth while the hunter prayed to her for a good hunt means that Artemis was multiple gods.
>>529788750The trinity isnt biblical and in John when it says "the word was God", its just restating the retarded jewish belief that the universe emanates from their retarded fairy tales. The Trinity is heavily inspired by Aristotlean metaphysics and aside from the fact that its appropriating our philosophy for jew voodoo crap, its far more dignified than the nonsense in Islam and Judaism.
>>529797275>You wouldn't be on /pol/ if that was the caseIs that why you're on /pol/?>how dare you not accept my personal feelings as truth and factBoohoo
>>529796865No B.C. Jew had any concept that they were monotheists. That is a completely modern category. Rabbinic Jews purposely mistranslated the masoretic text to remove any references to the existence of gods other than Yahweh. If you read the Septuagint or Dead Sea Scrolls, there are references to an entire pantheon of other deities. Baal was every bit as real as Yahweh to Old Testament Jews, they were just forbidden to worship him.
>>529797486This man is a racist
>>529797623HH Brother!
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>>529797778Aloha Snackbar!
>>529797859Vitamin deficiency, high goat diet
>>529797357>he thinks "Word" is a lexical equivalent for "Logos"Even Bart Ehrman isn't that retarded. If you're going to larp as an atheist biblical scholar, at least be a good one.
>>529795121Yeah that's what I said. Lutheranism and Calvinism are Trinitarian ergo idolatry.
>>529795316By "I and the Father are one", he probably meant "I proceed from the Father." Else it's inconsistent with picrel and a whole bunch of other verses.
>>529799354I said the opposite and Bart Ehrman is a crypto Christian
>>529788750>French flag>quoting the QuranYou have to go back Ahmed
islamic dilemma is pretty clearquaran affirms the biblethe bible says islam is falsepretty simpleislam is getting BTFO harder and harder all the timealso mohammed was a homosexual who had secret liasons with diyah al-kalib, as long as there weren't any dogs aroundmuslims hate dogs because they alerted people to mohammed's gay sex lmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXCYh7TcKUw
>>529789243>>529796801Rabbi Yeshua was circumcised, celebrated Hannukah and Passover. So cut off your foreskin and light up your Menorah, christcuck golem.
>>529800186>Bart Ehrman is a crypto ChristianThis actually made me laugh. Thank you.
>>529796545Sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
Bible says they work in unison Father, son, and spirit, all beings that have claimed to be God, all work in unison, which is where the concept of trinity comes from. I believe the Father is the true progenator, and the term God generally means creator, so this is likely where the errors coincide. The spirits are also likely some sort of phantom He sends with personal messages if not even how He appears Himself, so perhaps even a distinction between Father and spirit is unnecessary. God Himself refers to spirits he imparts on people, and spirit means wind, and God is invisible for most of the Bible although there are certain that see Him formed as an angel like revelations (Ezekiel I believe was one), however he is named the invisible God once as well in scripture.Many of the events in the Bible describe feverous visions, it’s hard to tell if Ezekiel was in something beyond a trance although I believe it’s less relevant than his messages. God can become whatever form He chooses, and the use of this angelic issue in revelations with his titles is likely an adopted personage similar to that of his son’s body.So trinity, all one, no, in unison, together, controlled entirely by the one true God, yes. Shitskins have no real contact with God so who cares what they say?
>>529800126The Sky Father (Dyaus-Pitr/Indo-European Dyeus-Phter, called today by the Vatican Deus-Pater) is the pure consciousness, he's referring to a state one may call "gnosis". This can be summed up as Al-Insan Al-Kamil. In the Irish Book of Invasions the final invaders who became the ancestor of the Gaels are the Milesians who came via Spain from Anatolia (City of Miletus). During the festival of Hidirellez in Anatolia, Al-Khidrs resurrection and combination with Elijah (who is called that due to Islamic influence, before it was a female deity) is celebrated with bonfires, people jumping over them, etc. In Ireland, Beltane is celebrated around the same time for the resurrection of the Green Man and his union with the May Queen. This is Osiris and Isis. >A Hittite wearing a kilt, as was common for them
>>529801051Glad we could make each other laugh. The exact phrase, "Even Bart Ehrman", gets repeated so often that its become humorous
>>529801580>Anatolia
>>529801580>Ireland
>>529788750>How can Christians ever recover?Who cares what canaanite cavemen and desert people think? Honestly. That's the least important thing a person could concern themself with.
It is just an assertion and both positions require faith on the part of the believer. I do prefer things like this over medieval nonsense to try and "logically" prove either position.
>>529788750the Trinity is in the Old Testament, it's just not obvious.Genesis 1 "Let us make" over and over. Do you refer to a single person by a group form of address usually?Daniel 7:>13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.>14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.So a person who looked like a male human, rode the clouds up to God (the Ancient of Days) and God gave this "Son of Man" glory and an everlasting kingdom and dominion over all things.Jews had this understanding of "two powers in heaven" going back, to at least then. Why would God give someone who is not God glory and an everlasting Kingdom and Dominion?In fact, Jesus citing this passage is what made the Pharisees condemn Him.Matthew 26>63 But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.>64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.>65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy.>66 What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death.Why was He condemned? Because He had claimed to be the "Son of Man" in Daniel 7, and thus equating Himself with God.I will continue on other angles, I will be quoting Old Testament.
>>529801866>canaanite cavemenJesus was a Canaanite caveman, as well as 11 (?) of the Apostles (all but Paul.)More importantly polytheism violates the 1st commandment and idolatry violates the 2nd commandment.
>>529802453Now, more Apologetics:Isaiah 9:>6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.>7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.The Messiah will be referred to as "the Mighty God" and "Everlasting Father"so right there, the Messiah is in fact, God born as a Human.Isaiah 11:>1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:To give context. David's line would end, even though God had made a covenant with David that His descendants would always rule. Jesse is David's father. So the idea is that a descendent of David will come out of a seemingly dead line, a shoot growing out from a dead stump is the illustration.Continuing>10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.So it is a shoot of Jesse, a descendant.. but it is also the ROOT of Jesse, that came before Jesse.How can anyone but God been the ancestor of Jesse, David's father, but also the Son of David?It is God, who is then born as a descendant of King David, as the Messiah.BTW that verse also shows that Gentiles following the Jewish Messiah was also an Old Testament concept.Micah 5>2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.The Messiah, born in Bethlehem, would be eternal "from everlasting"The Messiah being both human and divine is littered through scripture.
>>529802771it isn't Polytheism, they are the same God.they are a union. Just the same as your body, mind, and spirit are different things but also the same person
>>529802771Prove one thing you say
