LITERALLY 4 DAYS IN AND THEY'RE OUT
>>529850460You already lost Hasan
>>529850460Iran never had interceptors
>>529850460It’s funny how turd worlders think we are physically incapable of scaling up production. These systems are expensive because it is profitable for them to be. In an actual all-out war scenario, the industrial military equipment production capacity would be made largely public.
then just take them from south korea and move them to the middle east, kim won't do shit in the meantime ez
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>>529850612That's because all your gay radars are wrecked lolYou are a blind castrated pig kikeROFL
Go Persia! Go Persia!Fuck Israel! Fuck Israel!
>>529850612>memeflag kike propaganda from TWITTER lmfao what happened to >they've launched THOUSANDS of missiles hahahaha go rot in Hell you filthy rat
>>529850460>When Iran uses their old shit it’s because they’re saving their new shit.>When USA uses their old shit it’s because they’re out of their new shit.Make this make sense>flag is a mudslime nationSuddenly, it makes sense. But also fuck kikes fuck the Talmud fuck ZOG
>>529850757Why do Mutts use Iran colored parachutes? Seems a really dumb idea
>>529850757Hopefully they shot him immediately
>>529850684>the infrastructure will appear from thin air because we have dollarsask me how I know you're a government employee
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>>529850460>Pac-2, proximity fused fragmentation warhead>Pac-3 impact detonated shaped chargeLol, LMAO even
>>529850924shooting a guy in a parachute in a big nono
>is a literal bomb that explodes, and thus is full of actual dangerous explosives>"danger: contains beryllium"what's so scary about beryllium lads
>>529850684>It’s funny how turd worlders think we are physically incapable of scaling up production.couldn't manage it with ukraine, now you have a two front war
>>529850612flag
>>529850460Americans are keeping the best missiles for last. Just like Iran
>>529850460thats what happens when you fund endless proxy wars for arms sales, oops did funding ukraine cost you your foothold in iran who could have seen that coming but an amateur analyst, the playbook at work here is pathetically bad.
>>529850460Trump has got this. print off a trillion more dollarsinflation soars through the roof. puppet lose election as designed.land theiving kid-bomber jews win
>>529850684>>529850460Kuwait may still have ~200 of those older pac2 missiles. Not sure on Qatar. Qatar supposedly purchased 768 PAC-3 missiles for 11 patriot batteries. https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R44984https://f35.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/mfc/documents/pac-3/24-09790-iamd-pac-3-mse-partner-ppt--updates_r2.pdf
There are 2 million Iranians in the US, just saying. Conventional war has never been a sandnigger thing, but they know how to fuck shit up anyways.>b-but they're middle class workers, fully integratedSure, 98% of them are, but what about the other 40,000 Iranians who are pissed off?
Again I can’t believe there’s people that call themselves Europeans that believe islamic sand propaganda
>>529850684>It’s funny how turd worlders think we are physically incapable of scaling up productionThen why haven't you? Because its not you, its publicly traded companies beholden to their shareholders and building new infrastructure is a large investment and the only way to justify it are large scale long term contracts.
>>529850460>this confirmswhy wouldn't they use both?smoke em if ya got emuse up the old inventory. you'd want to eventually anyway.of all the shit going on, this post is stupid and I'm going to grow in all fields.
>>529851180>ukraineSorry bongistan, that’s your war now!
>>529851298They’re marching and cheering in the street. They fled Iran exactly because of the islamic regime.
>>529851223Shut up faggot. You sit around in your dirty undies all day fingering your ass while critiquing people who are far more impressive than anything you ever done in your pathetic little life.
>>529850684reminder: theft by the capitalists is guaranteed, it's where profit comes from: the system is fundamentally corruptif America could produce adequate air defense systems, you would have done so before starting the war... now you will give even more money to defence contractors in exchange for even less
>>529850757They should rape and torture that jewOh wait he didn’t fall into israelFun fact: Americans trapped in israel haven’t been allowed to use any bunkersGreatest Ally right there
>>529850668>Iran never had interceptorsSo what's shooting our jets down then?
>>529851791& this is how you go bankrupt
>>529850460Anon...a PAC-2 is a 2000lb TVM SARH Fragmentation missile. A PAC-3 is 700lb ARH H2K missile. PAC-3's didnt replace PAC-2's, they operate alongside them.
>>529850684>It’s funny how turd worlders think we are physically incapable of scaling up production.Why wasn't this done before the orange retard bumbled into this fiasco unprepared?
>>529851712First claaaaaaassss up the sky, champaaaign living my life....
>>529851712becoming an emotional faggot while us military leadership are objectively retarded is going to cost american lives and you want to wave your fist at me on 4chan? go fuck yourself dickhead and be productive like not supporting destabilizing libya 2.0, because nation building isn't the stated goal? oh wait no now its explicitly the stated goal.
>>529850684it's not 1940s anymore you guys are fucked if you have to actually mass manufacture shit
>>529851511>why wouldn't they use both?because when you only have 45 seconds to intercept an inbound missile, you're not going to waste 20 seconds firing a shittier missile that will miss so that then your good missile now has a worse interception rate than the ideal point at which you could've launched it if you hadn't fucked around using ancient tech. PAC2 is what was used in the first Gulf War, and it was widely seen as a failure there because it just leads to the warhead falling somewhere in-between the target and the intercept point and blowing up something else, so it's not idea for that reason as well.
>>529850460Why would you not deploy them regardless? Your logic is fundamentally fucking retarded.
>>529851522>Sorry bongistan, that’s your war now!Now let's step away from Iran and let it be exclusively Israel's war without our assistance whatsoever.
>>529850460bebo always cracks me up for being one of the most retarded engagement farming grifters on x
>>529851924pac3's absolutely did replace pac2's. The pac2's only use is for shooting down aircraft (unnecessary when you have air superiority) or because you've run out of everything else. They're shit.
>>529851842A kuati f-18
>>529850460that one of the shittiest shoops i've ever seen
>>529850460>Deployment: The U.S. Army utilizes both PAC-2 and PAC-3 missiles on the same launcher, allowing for a layered defense. based retard G*rman doesn't even know the most basic shit about our military
>Russia will run out of missiles but this time for realoh third world
>>529850460They sent majority of their stock to Ukraine already. They are not ready for this but jews forced them to do it.
>>529850460HAHAHAHAHA the amount of disinformation on /pol/ and the amount of muslims praying and hoping for any win is very funny to me
>>529850460Year 2000 wasn't that long ago when it comes to missile refurbishment schedules. Also when it Patriot missiles, anyone with German flag should shut the fuck up. Your government has in past fucked up with these things. Lets sell 69 Patriot missiles to Worst Korea. Put 'em on random Manx registered civilian vessel, owned by Russian oligarch thru postal box company in Cyprus and manned by jeets. Add some 120mm tank gun shells and 155mm artillery shells to the mix. Totaling 160 tons. Then label it all as fireworks. Using lowest bidder is always better than handling dangerous and classified material properly. Oh, none of the streetshitters on the crew were qualified to handle explosives, not even fireworks. https://yle.fi/a/3-5472045>>529851842Apparently Kuwaiti F/A-18 Hornets with AMRAAMs. Either business as usual with trigger happy and incompetent Arabs or retards in your air force aren't using IFF as they are supposed to, that might be result of Hegseth firing competent officers because they have degrees from fancier universities and thus woke, replacing them with incompetent evangelicals with delusions about jews and armageddon.
>>529850684I'm not paying the guys at my machine shop overtime for this.No way.They get paid enough already.
>>529851826Fucking GOOD
>>529850460>retards on telegram have a theory oooh wooooahhh c'est plus interessant tell me more
>>529850769That's a fucking good point. Mutts can't even probably detect launches anymore
>>529850460Why in the fuck are we using patriots to shoot down the drones and not SHORAD's? We have probably battalions of them. We have automated ground based Cwiz too. What the fuck are we doing? Also I could have sworn we had something like this but as a distributed array tied into a centralized command. It was just the missile stack tied to a generator and a data link. I'm going crazy. I swear we had that during GWAT
>>529850612How long until Iran started launching shovels instead of missiles?
>>529850612save post for posterity
>>529850612Doesn't it make sense to throw less rockets at the enemy to get a better feel for how many interceptors they have left?
>>529850684$10 billion magically appearing on a computer screen doesn't automatically translate to physical matter manifesting
>>529852721>$10 billion magically appearing on a computer screen doesn't automatically translate to physical matter manifestingYeah, some kike let slip that the federal reserve has "infinite money". But that doesn't mean they can magically conjure up weapons and shut out of thin air the same way they can with their fake fiat money.
>>529852178>>529852105>doesn't even know the most basic shit about our militaryIdiot American and Jap seems to think that the military is going to give up on the 160km range of the larger PAC2 and entirely replace it with 80km and 120km range PAC3's. No-one in their right mind would do this, especially when you have a large inventory of the PAC2's to burn through. If a PAC2 hits the target further out, great! Older missile done its job. If not, lob a PAC3 at it when its closer. You'd have to be deranged to think its done any other way.
>>529851522>Sorry bongistan, that’s your war now!We'll see how this works out for you
>Iran's only claim to fame is taking credit for Kuwait shooting down our own jets because they thought they were Iranian F-4sThe absolute cope on /pol/
>>529850460>older model used>this confirms a shortage of newer models and an overall shortageIsn't that a little specious? If it weren't for external headlines, that's two leaps in logic.
>>529850684>In an actual all-out war scenario, the industrial military equipment production capacity would be made largely public.Actually we sent most of our manufacturing capability to China and then filled our country up with retarded niggers.t. Manufacturing Engineer
>>529850460Retarded assumption. Of course they want to use older equipment first rather than wait for it to disintegrate in storage. If it's used against a slow drone, they still have plenty of time to fire another if the first one was a dud.
>>529851504Scaling up production would significantly increase the costs because of the initial investment to the infrastructure unless we plan on being at war for the next 20 years.
>>529852928what experience do you have with shooting missiles down?
>>529850460Can Iran hit Israeli hospitals and water desalination plants?
>>529853417What part of my statement was incorrect?
>>529850460AIR DEFENSE IS A MEMEOFFENSE > DEFENSE BLOW UP THEIR LAUNCHERS IN THEIR TERRITORY YOU KNOW WHAT ISNT A MEMETHE MOST POWERFUL AIR FORCE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLDLITERALLY OWNING THE SKIES ABOVE IRAN STRIKING ALL THEIR MILITARY EQUIPMENT DAY IN DAY OUT AT THIS VERY MINUTE OH YOU CANT DO THATONLY AMERICA CANTHATS RIGHTGLOBAL HEGEMON CONFIRMED
>>529853558yes, but that would be an ill-advised escalation
attacks on hospitals and water sources is Jewish, not Aryan
>>529850460Chuds are retarded, even if the interceptor stockpiles of the arabs are depleted there is barely any strategic or tactical gain from bombing civilian buildings in dubai, as attacks against arabs countries increase the likelyhood of sectarian violence against the shia increases.The majority of people in the lebanon hate hezbollah, the majority of people in iraq hate the PMUs, nevermind that the Sunnis suspect that the Iranians are the left hand of the anti-christ.While the region is further de-estabilized due to Iranian Messianic tantrums, those missiles, drones or whatever shit they are throwing in the air cannot be replenished, America can mass produce bombs, Israel can mass produce bombs, bombs can be sourced from other countries, meanwhile Iran is totally isolated, their economy is broken and in hiperinflation, their factories bombed, every single thingamajig fired to Dubai is a thingamajig Iran cant replenish.Eventually the Iranians will be faced with a massive anti-shia sentiment from its neighbours, with a depleted arsenal and barely a foot militia of IRGC with some basiji axiliaries.
>>529853593>What part of my statement was incorrect?1.) You can only fit 1 x pac-2 missile per canister instead of 4 x pac3 missiles per canister. So you're going to run out a 4x faster than if you had pac3's loaded. >If a PAC2 hits the target further out, great! Older missile done its job.2.) This isn't "great", because the warhead still falls and kills somebody with a pac2 (perhaps a lot, if it's a nuke). 3.) PAC-2's are worse at taking out ballistic missiles, because they were designed to shoot down aircraft. So, hypothetically speaking, that pac2 with a 50% chance to intercept is going to require many more missiles to make a hit, whereas a pac3 with a ~90% chance may only require 1-2 missiles. As you're making miss after miss, that ballistic or cruise missile is already on top of you. Sure, a pac2 is better than an empty launcher, but no one is leaving pac3's on the ground while they load pac2's for "muh extra range".
It's not possible for America to scale up production. All the engineers are retarded indians and any factories not in China are staffed by retarded mexicans. Technology might as well be magic because we can't even produce 20 year old stuff nowadays.
>>529850684Years of Ukrainian conflict didn't seem to do the trick.
>>529850460not a problem.Israel got the US' back. they wont leave their best ally alone will they?
>>529850612LOOK AT THAT NIGGER FLAG HOLY SHIT
>>529850612Okay I’ll remember this post next time some kike is crying about waves of missiles incoming.Dont worry moshe, reduced capacity blahblahblah
>>529852666Shovels are only reserved for the most important offensives. They will use them when capturing major cities.
>>529851158Isn't it radioactive? it's what makes glowniggers
>>529850612>coping memeflag Zog ain’t doing to welll huh
>>529851712Zogbot malfunctioning, crashing out
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>>529851547More Americans oppose this war than Iranians who support it fuck face
i have never seen a lord bebo post that wasn't just antiwestern agitprop, so of course the brown masses on /pol/ gobble it all up
>>529851712t. Kegbreath
>>529855071It's on the ropes Go out and attack!
>>529854233Prolonged chaos means Iran wins
>>529851791The funny thing is, usually a massive spike in ammunition production would be a worrying signal to enemies abroad and put them on guard to expect an attack. But we had the PERFECT cover to do so: Ukraine. "Yeah, we are doubling our interceptor missile production. Ukraine has been going on for much longer than expected and we need more missiles to send them. Don't worry about it, this has nothing to do with you guys."
>>529855555Checked
>>529852381>They get paid enough already.Only when compared to chinese slave labor.
>>529850460The US is absolutely running low on interceptors, but the use of PAC-2 isn't evidence of that and says nothing about PAC-3 stockpiles. We gotta use up the old stockpiles and we don't shoot the highest end missiles at lower end threats. We deploy a lot of different systems, expensive, cheap, new, old, and then any modern integrated air defense system (the US is one of the few countries that actually has one) chooses the right missile or missiles for the job. Radar figures out what the incoming target is, where it's going to hit if left alone, and then a decision is made automatically about what the minimum required intercept effort is required, if any. Data gets fed over a link to whatever system or systems are chosen to intercept.This is really basic stuff.
>>529855626I'm convinced the anons on here are vastly more intelligent than anyone in ZOG>>529855555Giga checked
>>529850684nigger we have a 155mm shell factory that was set up in texas 2 years ago that hasn't produced a single shell yethttps://breakingdefense.com/2026/02/army-official-not-happy-with-gds-handling-of-155mm-contract-as-production-lags/It's fucking ridiculous, and you think we're just gonna start pumping out hundreds more of far more complicated missiles in a quick manner? no way
>>529850684Sure, just put in the call to your heavily tariffed supply chain partners, they'll be more than happy to help.One problem with ideologues when it comes to crunch time is that they think violence is something they can outsource at will.
>>529850684Money doesn’t magically transform into weapons out of nowhere, mutt. Your stock is depleted due to past bombing runs and helping Ukraine. It takes years to replenish, and that’s IF you give the playing the world police a rest for a while.
>>529850757Yeah Kuwait shot down some US planes in a friendly-fire incident. What's that got to do with US interceptor stockpiles?
>>529851112America doesn't seem to care about those things why should anyone else?
>>529855555
>>529855555>Prolonged chaos meansProlonged chaos that Iran cant sustain, Its not hard to understand, they dont have an economy anymore, they cant replenish their stockpiles, they cant import war material, eventually those stockpiles will deplete while their wealthy neighbours hates them due to the autistic religious fervour of the Iranians.Prolonged chaos means that every non-shia in the middle east will retaliate against Iranian proxies like hezbollah.Iran was winning due to the status quo being upheld by the Americans, now the status quo is broken they can no longer fund Iranian terror now without repercussions.
>>529850460Maybe if your idiotic leaders spent the money they pay you to shitpost here on something productive your country wouldn't be a pile of rubble right now.
>>529853948Yeah but jews aren't human so it's okay to do whatever you want to them.
>>529853367Should plan for that because this war will take longer than 20 years
>>529850460>NOOO YOU CAN'T USE OLD STOCK BEFORE YOU USE NEW STOCKDon't ever go work in a kitchen, ok?
>>529851158Nah, it's fine. Arabs and Israelis should immediately lick all debris from missile interceptions. It will make them strong.
>>529850612I watched Lookner all day yesterday and it was a constant stream of red alerts from Iranian missiles. This seems bogus
>>529851298A lot of the pre 1990 middle easterners were christians. If you can keep them from forming an enclave(less than 1 percent in a zipcode) they dissolve into the general population
>>529851112Guy in the parachute didn't seem to mind shooting people on the ground who couldn't hit him back.
>>529850460> lord beboThis tankie was wrong about literally everything on Russia/Ukraine war. If he writes it you can be sure he will be embarassed within the next day or so.
>>529856341>This seems bogusThe silence from Israel is deafening
>>529854785Hold that laugh, 'cause i'll laugh with you as soon as the obvious happens.
>>529851298Those Iranians were pretty much all ones who fled Iran decades ago because they hate the current government there. That's not to say their kids and grandkids won't ever become nationaist shia radicals who want to murder people in the West, which is why they shouldn't be let into our countries at all, but they're really not the ones we need to worry about except on demographic grounds.
>>529852666Very long, turns out their economies are shit because like North Korea they spent lots of years only building and buying missiles.
>got dumped by iranian ex 1 year ago>check in on her social media feed to gloat, feel good about myself, and maybe find a reason to contact her>she's celebratinggod fuck this gay earth no matter what happens I always lose
>>529856125An addendumWhen you DO finally start mass producing weapons, you cannot just “stop” at will. There’s an entire infrastructure, contractors and multibillion dollar investments that need to be paid off, forcing you to remain at war. This is the military industrial complex.
>>529853747You benefited from the development of stealth tech, which prevents anti-aircraft lock-on. In the new age of hegemony, the hegemon must leverage their existing forces to pulverize any attempt by the enemy to leverage stealth.Honestly this is a small window in which these large ultra-maneuverable fighters reign supreme. So long as you actually got the formula for stealth, you can go a lot smaller and at much lower cost. We'll see that from the Iranians pretty soon, I think.
>>529850924Iran is going to be looking for guys with America colored parachutes, you're the one whose dumb here.
>>529852365Plus, "they don't make 'em like they used to."Older models are actually better. So Iran is about to find out what good ole' American steel tastes like.I'm almost tired of winning.
>>5298564712 generations of mixing with anglo-germans which I know of an iranian and a lebanese and the children have blue eyes and look white. And not the uncanny valley white that many 2nd gen white-spic babies often look like.
>>529851826>Saar, wall is good pooping spot
>>529850460>shortage No point in wasting the good shit on turdy tech retard.
>>529851842Rumor has it that it was a green on blue attack f18 against three f15s. The misidentification story was to deny a theoretical iranian victory.
>>529850460Does not mean they are out just that they are rationing.
>>529850460If you dont need to good stuff and yesteryear’s shit is perfectly functional. Why waste it.
>>529850684Ukraine has been going on for years and we have barely scaled shit.
>>529856640its more a cost issue. each b-2 cost over a billion dollars. f-22 cost 333 million. its untenable
>>529856743>look whiteOne drop rule dumbass
>>529851504We've scaled up production. Of basically all of our missiles, offensive and defensive. We're planning for a war with China. Which is why it's really stupid to be wasting anything we have on Iran, but Trump apparently believes that there's enough time still before China becomes a problem, and that by knocking another Chinese ally off the board will be worth it.Now that's me steelmanning this retarded war. If I was in charge I'd have sat back, only defended US assets, made it clear to everyone that Israel was going it alone and we weren't going to help them even defensively, and let Israel go and just nuke Iran instead, by themselves, and suffer the consequences of that. Ideally the fallout would spread across Afghanistan, as a fuck you to them, and also increase cancer in Pakistan, India, and China. Then the US can go in and just tap into Iran's oil underground from outside. Or just let that oil be taken off the board, and seek to more rapidly exploit it elsewhere with a greater monopoly on the stuff to further squeeze China.I think this war was a strategic mistake, but there is still some strategy behind it, and production of the required missiles to face against a real country is still happening, perhaps more urgently now.
>>529855169Everything is insane toxic in the army.Those "long-lasting paints" they use are notorious dangerous. Specially when burned, as heat breaks it apart and create a dust that can be inhaled or consumed by accident.t. Armoured infantry guy with tinnitus because every option of sound deadening is either crazy toxic or comically flammable.When I hear someone saying "military grade" i automatically want to wash my hands because I know very well this shit is made without any safety in mind.
>>529850460>wowie zowie another military literally just launched it's entire arsenal simultaneously and we ran out of a countermeasure for a drone they spammed. It's le overDrop your proxy and go back to lanzhou nigga
>>529850684You're right anon. Any minute now, you will want to start winning again like Trump said.
Just use the lasers.
>>5298510842Pac is better anyway, 3Pac sucks.
>>529851932It has been done. Trump started this over a year ago, and it was already ramping up even during Biden.More importantly, though, is the US is developing better new missiles, which are specifically designed to be easier to ramp up production much faster, because they're made with newer manufacturing techniques.
>>529851409And I can’t believe there’s people that call themselves White that tolerate jews.
>>529852565Launches are detected by satellite and AWACs and all the ships we have in the area. All mobile, not at risk (except maybe from some retarded Kuwaitis).
>>529856667Don't your need to fly your flag to fall under the Geneva conventions?
>>529852611Drones are mostly shot down by the planes we have in the air. Those F-15s? They carry nearly 50 small missiles (basically just old helicopter-based rockets with some new seekers stuck on the front) in pods. And it costs less for these little missiles than the drones themselves. So assuming our retarded "allies" don't shoot down the F-15s, the engagements should be pretty easy against even swarm attacks. Normal to have 4x F-15s flying together, so ~200 drones killed in a single sortie. I assume they've got these pods on F/A-18s now too. Drones can be shot down by the gun as well for additional kills.But considering how we're suddenly flooding in a lot more assets to the region now, days after this started, it's pretty clear Israel kicked things off before we were ready so I don't know what all we've even got there.
>>529850769Remember the falkland war. I do. Shut up bitch, your breath smells like hot british cum.
>>529850684You aren't able to do itThe whole country is mutted, full of retards and full of kikesAmerica is a corpse, not a country
>>529850460Shilling won't save your cities from buffs shitting all over them.
>>529852565Satellite.
>>529852031Can't you end up in gitmo for such blatant antisemitism?
>>529851180Scaling up production already went ahead under Biden. Like it did throughout Europe and allies. But you didn't get the Memo. It has since improved even more under Trump. Regardless it becomes decisions based on averages, and undoubtedly some get through.What needs to improve is drone defenses. Any solutions need more advancing alongside. For the most part defenses are doing their job, correct. Causalities and hits are next to none by comparison to the many sent, thousands sent by Iran. Until there was some damage. But, the best defense was clearly offense.Pol are all over the bullshit. It makes it stink. As always. They're cheering something stupid. What, only Pol knows. Iranian capability continues to degrade far more rapidly than any opposing air defenses actively engaging with far more success.
>>529850460They gave them all to Israel
>>529852721It's not the money, or even the resources, really, it's the labor. You need vetted, clearance-having workers who know how to even set up the factories, and can be trusted to manufacture and put together the parts.That's a big part of the reason why newer missiles are being designed from the start to require as little labor as possible, and particularly less skilled labor, so if need be they can just have some random POGs from a reserve unit be handed some screwdrivers and tell them to put together some parts being 3D printed out of some fairly generic automated machine with tolerances that aren't terribly important.There's still going to be room for the highest end bespoke missile tech, but the the trend is towards cheap mass flung at the enemy, and only the software is particularly sophisticated.
>>529850684>we are physically incapable of scaling up production. with what factories retard
>>529856640We're not going to see anything from the Iranians ever again. Israel wants Iran to be a failed state. The US is helping but even without US help Israel would still make that happen now that the Iranian air defenses are gone. Israel will keep destroying them just like they flattened Gaza, with nukes if they have to. There won't be any nation building and there won't be a functional government or society left in Iran after this.
>>529850460Holy shit not the anonymous twitter source. We are so screwed,
>>529856145When has America shot anyone in a parachute? Nobody even flies planes against us, we choose our enemies well.
>>529850684>bros life is like a video game all we have to do is slide the production slider over and we'll magically be able to make more stuff!Fucking retard lmao you can't even make basic bullets anymore you had to import a whole ass factory from Turkey to
>>529858560>Iranian capability continues to degrade far more rapidly than any opposing air defenses actively engaging with far more success.Saying it doesn't make it a reality kike
>>529856949Those costs are so high only because they didn't build enough of them, and they're including the cost of R&D spread over a very few airframes. If they built as many as they originally planned, and they only stopped because the Cold War ended, those would have been way, way cheaper.
>>529858866many Americans don't realize that we can't make more than 100(ish) of these interceptors a month and 100 of these can easily be fired every night. America has almost no manufacturing capacity anymore. it is alarming.the Sec of War Crimes fails to mention this ofc
>>529856844Friendly fire is always much worse than enemy action. Friendly fire is never claimed as a face-saving measure, at least by the US. Friendly fire is a shameful admission. Ask any US fighter pilot, current or retired.Where the F-15s went down, there was no other explanation than friendly fire.
>>529850460>Iranians are so shit that Americans can use old stock, don't need to use their good shitlol
>>529856813Iran clearly has some decent stuff. But that's only a few missiles compared to the amount of garbage they're throwing into the sky to try and overwhelm and confuse. But there's these things called computers that can easily differentiate between targets, calculate their trajectories, and prioritize, assigning specific interceptors to specific targets.There will of course always be mistakes, malfunctions, or just times where too much is incoming and the more serious stuff gets prioritized leaving not enough interceptor bandwidth. Even if there's enough interceptors there may not be enough time to launch at everything. Reloads might be in progress. Shit happens.
>>529850612Why does /pol/ hate these facts?
>>529851826Why didn't he protect it from Vance?
>>529859765are you saying other countries would not have these r&d cost?Even the US understands its cost prohibitive. Instead the US is going into a swarm drone style future with f-22 and f-35's as essential qb's for the drone swarms to force multiply.
>>529853747strategic air command no longer exists, that department ended after this. What is left is a hodge podge of functional retards keeping the system just above the high water mark until they get their pensions and general dynamic board seats
>>529850612You can interpret this several waysPresumably, Iran quickly ran through its prepared list of targets, and after that new attacks are launched only as fast as new satellite intelligence comes in. Also, fewer missiles are needed to destroy targets because enemy is running low on interceptors.
>>529850460>crumpled up debrisdefinitely not ai generated
>>529850460that's ok because they destroyed 200% of iranian launchers already
>>529861140Furthermore, if Iran has made a decision to build nukes, it will need to conserve missiles so that it will have plenty of missiles both to deliver the nukes and to serve as decoys during a nuclear strike
To be realistic Iran is not going to win militarily or strategically. Nor economically.>an economic blip.The horrible media and the corporate energy gangster cartels want it to be drawn out, no doubt. But if America acts right it should be over quickly.>but i wanna see america get hurt because jews n’ stuffAt the best/worst in the long term should America act foolishly then scenes of improvised explosive terrorism within an already occupied Iran are the most that anti-America fans can realistically hope for. Cap is something to underline this. Whether you like the US regime or not Hegseth is saying this because it’s what can reasonably be expected. Militarily Iran is a toddler with a cardboard sword standing in front of a riot squad with a long nose Apestein giving orders from the back, its not going to end well for them. >>529859147This is the n’th anonymous tweet from a seething flip flop flapper on X that we’ve had. They are bollocks. Cope. Nonsense. Chosen by the desperate. Reproducing them here does NOT effect the course of reality. Let’s keep it real. There is plentiful mountainous amounts of real points to focus on which the long of nose do not want us focusing upon. This is how we are influential, as we’ve seen hundreds of times, by being RIGHT. To be right you just have to be truthful. It’s a power and it effect of it can change world. >>529859076It’s a bit fucking much isn’t it. Pity they didn’t just invade israel when they had the chance (if they did). Maybe that’s what everyone will say as each group of people is ‘levelled’ by the theosophist satanist elite and judaism. >if only we’d dealt with them when we had the chance. They’ll keep playing us all off against each other as long we gape at the media willingly, or as long as they can use bred to cuck slave populations who willingly serve dictators. There are some of those, unfortunately. The mordor breeds.
>>529850460MMMMMM BERYLLIUM
>>529853948beirut rules mr barnes
>>529857399>And I can’t believe there’s people that call themselves White that tolerate jews.90% of the ones you see doing that are bots and shills. The rest are Evangelicucks who think that licking Israel's boots is how they'll get to heaven.
>>529850460WTF is the shape of that "label"... Are you actually retarded?
>>529851409>Again I can’t believe there’s people that call themselves Europeans that believe islamic sand propagandaAny Europeans with self-respect denounce the Talmud. Kikes are sandniggers, and the Talmud is as much a satanic sandnigger book as the Koran. All of it is brown semitic trash which is alien to Europe and the White Aryan race.
>>529861005Everything costs R&D, unless you're China and you just have spies and steal everything, but even espionage costs money. Gotta bribe US presidents through their kids and stuff, gotta have hundreds of agents in the universities, massive propaganda operations to make communism sound cool to retards, etc.I'm simply addressing the specific cases of the B-2 and F-22 and their costs. The planes don't cost as much as you said, except that the R&D costs are being included in the number. That's also lifetime, including all maintenance, spare parts, etc. If we kept those production lines open, the per unit cost would have been a fraction of that.And since you need a certain amount of stuff, if you don't buy enough to begin with, you have to spend more R&D on other newer things to try and make up for it later.The US has no one strategy going forward. The strategy is to have all of the strategies. In this conflict the US is using fucking space missiles at the same time we're using cheap knock-offs of the Shahed drones. We're using planes made in the early 1960s alongside our highest end stealth tech. Currently we are developing low cost drones, and low end missiles for spam strategy at the same time we're creating new Army units and a fucking battleship that will shoot high end hypersonic maneuvering missiles. We're buying more F/A-18s and F-15s and F-16s at the same time we're developing F-47. We're upgrading the F-52 with brand new engines to keep them in service another 60 years while we're rolling out the new B-21. The US is doing all of the things. Literally everything. It's an orgy of cash into the maw of the MIC, hedging every possible bet.
>>529858528>Can't you end up in gitmo for such blatant antisemitism?It might come to that point. Which is all the more reason to hope for ZOG to collapse as soon as possible. Let's say they do win and defeat Iran. What do you support ZOG will do next? Start cracking down on domestic dissent even more heavily than before, probably.
>>529850460Also when did they start declassifying missiles by writing it in them? If it had said classified do I have to look away?
>>529850612You are goy cattle
>>529851112yeah, used to be considered unfair. imagine that. unfair. lol. lmao even.
>>529856999>If I was in charge I'd have sat back, only defended US assets, made it clear to everyone that Israel was going it aloneIf you had been suspected, even slightly, of letting Israel go in alone, you wouldn't have been allowed to be in charge
