How can article 5 be even invoked in this situation? So members of defensive alliance are supposed to join the war of aggression of other member and a NON-member?I think it's not Ukraine situation which is going tear it apart in the end. But fucking pissrael.
>>529927675France was attacked. (A base somewhere)
Europe is fucked economically if blockade continues. If it requires flattening Iran to lift it it's a price they're willing to pay.
>>529927675Iran attacked British Cyprus unprovoked.
>>529927675Dying for the Chosen People is an honour for the europeans
Russia and China have never been allies with Iran. China has had an arms embargo on Iran since 1996.China and Israel are massive business partners, and China owns ports in Israel.Israel was created by ethnically cleansing Palestinians with weapons supplied by the Warsaw Pact and logistically facilitated by Yugoslavia.Communist states and the US were the first wave of countries to recognize lsrael. Obviously, they all voted to admit Israel into the UN too.More Jewish lsraeIis have dual citizenship in Russia than in any other country. Majority of Jewish lsraelis descended from the Warsaw Pact states and communist Ethiopia.Russia had an arms and aerospace embargo on Iran from 2007 until 2022, with the sole exception of the S-300 PMU2 supplied during the brief JCPOA deal that Iran had ordered all the way back in 2007 which Iran had to really pressure Russia to even deliver.Russia and China voted for or passed every single UNSC sanction against Iran between the mid-2000s and mid-2010s.The USSR backed Saddam against Iran in the 1980s war, and earlier backed Communist insurgents against Iran. The USSR had backed at least three different separatist states in Iran in the first half of the century.Like the Soviets, the Russian Empire was also enemies of with Iran and conquered the South Caucasus. Russia and Iran have always been enemies until the late-1980s.Russia has never sold offensive missiles to Iran, but Ukraine did once during the early-2000s when it sold it the Kh-55.Russia had never sold planes to Iran but Ukraine did once in the late-2000s when it sold the An-148. Russia only just sold jets to Iran in 2024.Russia refused to launch a satellite for Iran for decades until August 2022.Benjamin Netanyahu has openly described Russia as its partner in Syria when elaborating why lsraeI won't sell arms to Ukraine.
>>529927675Laws mean nothing. All that matters today is how corrupt your regime is.Anglokikes are done pretending they aren't lawless animals.
>>529927675Good than our laws still not obligate any of us to fight at Nato-wars....actually I wonder after Trump's behaviour do our parliament ever change that....absolutely they won't do it nearby time...probably stalling that matter forever.
>>529928216So? So what? What does europe have to do with anything? They're literally irrelevant. Lmao.
>>529928233Riiiiggghhhttt.... "Iran"...
>>529928141Where? Outside France?
>>529927675Nafoids are 80 IQ retards. Anyone who ever said "defensive alliance" with any sincerity is retarded and swallows the dumbest propaganda rhetoric. NATO has only ever conducted offensive operations. They've never defended anything. There are no defensive alliances. It's 110 year old propaganda at this point.
>>529928256As atheist I have no plans to die for any religion. Fuck them all.
>>529927675they fired a missile into turkey
>>529928361They have navies that can be used to escort ships and provide air-cover for traversing the Gulf.
>>529927675Mark Rutte = Epstein class
>>529928233What is "British" Cyprus? And how is it unprovoked? Those are all foreign bases and UK participates in US-Israel agression against Iran, just like half a year ago.How does a defensive article apply here? Why should other countries participate in that?
>>529928507Yeah, apparently devolving all power to the field commanders under the mosaic plan was a REALLY REALLY BAD FUCKING IDEA and its going to get IRAN GANGBANGED BY ALL OF NATO
>>529928485Yup they got touched in their no-no zone and they're all huffy about it it seems.
>>529927675Tuhrkieeeeyeeee is in NATO (unlike Ukraine)
>>529927675>How can article 5 be even invoked in this situation?NAFO is the main fighting force of the global ZOG, why are you surprised they act when the spiritual heart of ZOG is threatened?
Super excited to see Europe 180 their propaganda from "US and Trump bad" to "WE MUST PROTECT OUR WESTERN VALUES! " once oil prices start peaking.
>>529927675Well Iran is shooting at Turkey. However, Article 5 says that the member nations give a response they deem appropriate. So they could consider a sternly worded letter appropriate. >>529928493It doesn't matter your personal beliefs. If your government wants you to go to war, you are going.
The kalergi plan hungers for more refugees.
>>529928507So Turks invoked article 5 now?
>>529927675Rutte is a slippery fucking snake so he'll find a way. It'll be the end of NATO if he actually invokes it though.
>>529928736Our goverment of cowards doing everything to avoid such happening >>529928359So I am not worrying for myself.
>>529927675You will be part of Russia again.>>529928588Let's not forget, NATO overthrew you, installed an occupation government and built you into an army and missile base to fight a war of aggression for them against Russia. Let's not "but NATO is a defensive alliance..." anymore. The time for that was 35 years ago on the dot. Your country paid with the blood of it's sons, husbands and fathers for nothing.
>>529928736>Well Iran is shooting at TurkeyDid it actually shoot at Turkey? Are Turks themselves planning to invoke the article? Because looks like it was a stray missile at best, and Iran told them they respect Turkish sovereignty. I doubt Turks themselves actually want to go to war, they literally condemned the attack on Iran. So more like an excuse to use by Rutte.But by that logic, what about all those supposedly Russian drones flying to Poland? Where is article 5 then? It's all about Israel. Let's not delude anyone.
>>529928759they probably wont but they technically could, if a missile actually gets through they might
>>529929103Turks are hotheads.
>>529929103Of course its about Israel. Ukraines dilemma id that Russia has a fuck-ton of nukes and would use them. Iran does not.
>>529929103What's your fucking problem? The war is going to end then. Are you a Jew in the Ukrainian government upset you can't flee to Israel anymore? Are you angry the population will probably end up lynching you?
>>529927675>NATO joining this with Ukraine still going on and Trump threatening them just a few months agoChrist they are such massive cucks
>>529928233We probably did that just for an excuse to get involved.
>>529927675They are attacking all sorts of countries, including NATO members other than the USA such as Britain and France who have not been conducting strikes on their country.
>>529927675Imagine believing a word Rutte says, top fucking kek
>>529927675>How can article 5 be even invoked in this situation?They blew up Libya without article 5 anyway (which led to the worst immigration crisis in Europe). NATO and Europe are 100% kiked
>>529929683Gaddafi warned about that btw...
