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What's going on in Finland
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it's a real mystery for sure
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>>529949044
they were cooking the books is my guess.
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>>529949044
What has Finland ever done in world history? America focuses on practicals, fundamentals, basics, they're out there chasing a pie in the sky, we are the world rulers dammit, elegance belongs to the conqueror
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>>529949044
Basically michael jackson is trying to touch people around town, that not ok.
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niggers in a system that is designed for very homogeneous population, liberalism, putting retards in classes with normal people, ipads replacing books, teachers having no authority
it's kind of a blueprint on how to destroy the system
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>>529949117
This.

>>529949116
PISA is bullshit, it's not a mystery.
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>>529949044
certainly it cant be the somalians right? the people who have one of the lowest IQs in the world? no?

are we sure bros?
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>>529949044
Immigration is atleast partly to blame. Could be something else aswell, hard to say.
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>>529949044
N
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>>529949044
We just don’t know.

I blame smart phones and AI.
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>>529949044
It seems that to be good in math you need to sit down and solve equations sitting on your ass and writing these equations and functions prussian style with focused mind.
You cannot learn math purely on group projects with unfocused mind jumping around topics.
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Niggers breeding, Finns being herbivores.
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>>529949257
>PISA is bullshit
It's not though.
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>>529949234
This is what happened, yeah. They effectively destroyed the education system and they can't unfuck the education system without getting rid of all those who fucked it up in the first place. Are they going to give up their postings? Doubtful
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They started building "wall-less" schools and handing out ipads
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>>529949044
EU+NATO = shithole. Too much niggers and muslims. Learn from our mistakes.
>>529949234
based.
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>>529949120
>america focuses on undermining practicals, fundamentals, basics
ftfy
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>>529949044
If you racist fucks assume that immigration is the cause of this, you don't know shit about the kebab economy and its benefits
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>>529949117
how could they cook the books if they actually suck at math?
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>>529949044
I love finns, so hard to see them struggle
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>>529949478
>EU+NATO = shithole. Too much niggers and muslims.
Outsie of EU and NATO there are even more niggers and muslims. I can see how Finnish education has failed you if you cannot take a grasp of reality.
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>>529949377
>>529949416
>>529949459
>>529949475
>>529949478
>>529949508

Finland became victim of it's own success: good education open doors to many females into higer education. Now instead of providing nation with next generation of PISA champions, they focused on getting educated in bullshit and making career in NotFamily injewporated.

Only people who procreated are the dumb ones, to dumb to start education. Ban females from highschools and universities.
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It's mostly not immigration. Smart people just stopped having babies a few decades ago and only retards breed. Why this happened in Finland more than other places, hard to say.
But hey at least /pol/ can be delighted to know that belief in crossjew is going up among retardedbased zoomers, so shouldn't retardmaxxing be a good thing?
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a mistery
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>>529949377
I assumed Finland was free from the mass jeet immigration problem since no one even remembers you guys exist
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>>529949044
People shit on our education system but we're always right up there with Euros on PISA. That's with all of our niggers and spics too, so idk wtf is going on in Europe to not be destroying us
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>>529949875
Too smart to reproduce, too smart to survive, too smart to win the game of life
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>>529949839
We had almost none before EU. How stupid you are, really? You just went full retard. Never go full retard.
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>>529949044
A TRUE MYSTERY REALLY! SURELY IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NIGGERS AND SHITSKINS
TKD
KILL ALL NIGGERS
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>>529949044

Niggers and smartphones.....the later ones going to ban at schools.
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>>529949044
Niggers and sandniggers, mostly muslims. Lot of schools where studying is literally nightmare because on few individuals who are terrorizing rest of students.

It has been big mistake to let those african and middlr east sub humans in western nations.
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>>529949957
You can blame the lobbyists who go to India and shill glorious binland so that they'll come here. Then they find out there are no jobs
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>>529949875
>Smart people just stopped having babies a few decades ago and only retards breed.
There doesn't seem to be huge difference anymore AFAIK, and in some Western countries smart people have more children.
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adhd, autism and anime is destroying finland.
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>>529949853
>no, don´t ban the people who are causing all the problems in schools but ban the teachers.
Another polish retard. You know better than me, a teacher, huh?
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>>529950015
Apparently I am smarter than typical Finn. You see Russia is not part of EU and NATO and is full of shitkins. Norway is not part of EU and NATO and is full of shitskins. I can do this whole day and write out every single country which is non NATO and non EU member which is being flooded with shitskins. Even Belarus has rising numbers of shitskins. But I guess with your shitty education you are to stupid to understand that whole world is being flooded by shitskins and it is not solely NATO and EU fault.
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>>529949044
women completely took over teaching all over the west, knowing how cucked nordics are I suspect that the situation is even worse for them
you are seeing the consequences of that
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>>529950178
You are a teacher? Oy vey. No wonder Finns are doing worse and worse.
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>>529950274
Norway is not part of NATO?
"Norway is a founding member of NATO (1949)"
You opinions don´t matter in this topic. You have failed.
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>>529949957
In the last 10 years Finland has received 1.3 million immigrants, with the vast majority coming from third-world nations. Only about 73k jeets though.

Source:
https://statistics.migri.fi/index.html#decisions?start=540
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>>529950015
Britain left the EU and now receives more immigrants than ever.
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>>529950415
Oh my bad, wanted to write EU and wrote more. But as a teacher you should know it, because it is simple mistake, and you should read the rest of my response wehre I point out Russia and Belarus who are clearly not part of EU and NATO. But apparently as a typical lying retard you stopped there just to prove you are right by ignoring all the other arguments. If you teach kids like that no wonder they are stupid.
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>>529949044
Nobody can learn when there are niggers in the classroom. Biggest troublemakers used to be isolated to small special assistance classes, but now they integrated everybody in the same giant classes, because the troublemaker classes would be niggers only. It's over.
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>>529950339
Yes I. I´ve been teaching for 23 years now. These people behave like animals. They are loud, spit on teachers, no respect. It takes 2 times more time to teach them and still they come short. Their families are the same. When I ask parents to come when teir children are causing problems, they attack us verbaly and won´t punish their offsrping. All this takes time away from education. Our classes are too big in size and teaching is unbearable. I used to love my job, now I feel unmotivated. But go ahead, say that it is not so. Nobody takes you seriously in this topic anymore.
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>>529949839
EU + NATO = death of native population
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>>529949044
>>529949116
>>529949214
>>529950062
>>529950095

The biggest groups of imigrants to Finland aren't niggers, but Slavs and Estonians.
Russians, Poles, Estonians and other scum
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>>529950794
Birthrate is crashing in china and it's not part of nato or the eu, and no, the one child policy alone can't explain it.
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>>529949257
Doesnt really answer the question though?
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>>529949508
there is not a single benefit to immigration from muslim countries
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>>529950637
>poolack can't stop screeching about Russia
kek Pay the fucking rent.
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Immigration is the issue here and has been for a long time. This is not even up for debate.

You have some schools over here that mostly consist of africans since they tend to move to the same areas in cities, that is almost dysfunctional when it comes to grades. So if you have one school that has X number of students that only gets Ds and Fs, and you have 4-5 other schools with the same amount of stutends where grades are way higher, the median becomes shit at the end of the day.
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>>529950900
Top 3 are Ukraine, Russia, and Iraq, and there rest are mostly thirdies from all over the world.
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>>529951035
The issue is the teachers and the schools have a lot of leeway giving grades. Those D and F guys might get Bs or Cs instead because too many Ds and Fs and you start looking bad. We don't have many national examinations to test how much the students really know, so PISA is where the cracks appear. Naturally this leads to a situation where you have to dumb down high school education as well because these people start attending those schools too
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Wow almost as bringing in the third world lowers the genetic quality of the nation but that can not be true because it is racist
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>>529950932
>one child policy
>retarded 6 days workweek
>10+ hours of work per day expected everywhere
>rural china left undeveloped for decades, meaning everyone flocks to cities to buy expensive 10 m2 flat-pot for 1 mil USD
chinks fucked themselves over by their retarded laws
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>>529950637
You already lost it. Nobody believes you anymore. You are arguing with the main source. I AM THERE 5 DAYS A WEEK. No reason for you to argue, when I tell from my OWN EXPERIENCE and tell you about the problems these "multitalents" cause. Have you ever spat a teacher yourself? Can you imagine what kind of people do that? Not only that, but we can´t even make them repeat a year without parents permission, so next year it takes twice the effort trying to teach that student and the problems multiply. And here you are, defending and downplaying? Why you do this? This behavior you do is not normal, unless you are one of these "multitalents" yourself or you have some agenda.
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>>529950932
The one child program is the primary thing but retarded long work weeks and shoving woman into factories to work is the second one. But China could use a big haircut it will actually be better for them in the long run
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>>529951058
Ukrainians and Russians respects teachers. They are willing to learn and I don´t have ANY problems with them. NONE. Funny thing is, that some Ukrainian refugees here have learned better Finnish than for example somalis or arabs who have been here since birth.
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I graduated from high school around 2010 or so and I was already thinking back then that how can this system produce top results when people are almost jumping on the walls. That was basically the downfall, no discipline, no authority, dumping down everything, letting everyone pass with grade 5 because no one wants to look at the niggers anymore and just pass them forward
Finland probably would need some sort of a dictator to fix this, voting seems so useless
Btw my school was fairly rural and already full of problems, I cannot even image what is going on in the nigger schools in Helsinki
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social media and porn, many such cases
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Inbreeding
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>>529951255
Stop that bullshit. Problem is immigrants. Too much of them. They take most of my time and that takes time and energy and I can´t do my best with the other students. You have no idea how bad it is. I used to LOVE teaching, now it feels like a stressfull job, that I don´t want to do. Early retirement? Yes, for sure.
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>>529951645
I don't have anything against them either, but it is likely that they do have a lower average IQ which will lead to a lower PISA score.
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>>529949120
Finland has done shit ton of groundwork on multiple fields ranging from heavy machinery (world class ship engines, cranes, elevators, mining and ore refinery equipment etc.)
To absolute top tier telecommunication innovations like mobilephones, wireless communication networks, even internet itself.
We had our own facebook and social media years before it took off globally.
We're just shit at monetizing our products and always sell all innovations to Swedes.

>>529949044
The answer is (surprisingly) not niggers. Because contrary to popular belief, Finland doesn't have that many niggers yet.

I'd say it is the right-wing efficiency and globalism culture that has forced us to abandon all proven methods and reshape the education to serve corporate interests. Kids are taught "abilities you will need at work" from early age, together with constant resource starvation and saving and intentionally driving the evil leftist "welfare state" to the ground by decades of right-wing governments and budget cuts to education.

Kids are shoved into massive schools with no real classes (literally, no walls, its open plan office) and no personal space and no group curriculum. It is all "individual" and the kids are "teaching each other" and learning the cooperation skills "necessary for todays business".

Its all globohomo meme trash pushed by right wing corporate puppets at our government.
Making kids smart hasn't been the goal for 2 decades now. The goal is to make them wagies.

Also the absoulte REFUSAL to dismiss the useless Swedish language that kids are forced to spend their life learning, which they will never speak a word in real life and that is absolutely useless. It might sound like a small thing, but imagine being a young boy and you're forced to study something that has absolutely no value and you know it, and you hate it.
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>>529949044
It's crazy - intelligence and competence among other factors are dropping everywhere in the West and nobody can pinpoint why. Kinda creepy, honestly. You almost wonder if some unknown type of weapon or change was caused by a bad actor like Russia or Iran. Hopefully someone can find an answer before we become like stupid Europeans in the Middle Ages.
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>>529952003
Finland has had pretty much every color government over the years and frankly they are all garbage, you would need to fire a lot of people and essentially restore the system to how it operates in Estonia today
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>>529949044
Finnish girls are now moving to Japan to become porn stars.
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>>529949044
>What's going on in Finland
Not much since nokia.
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>>529951961
Problem is time it takes to teach them and their behavior. I could manage with bigger class, if they would just be quiet and focus. But no, there is no respect from them or from parents and our hands are tied. How to punish if you can´t remove physically from class without special teacher or you can´t make them repeat a year wihtout parents permission? How can you make sure student is ready for the next year? Does parents give permission to stay behind? Very, very rarely, almost never.
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>>529949044
*chaotic kletzmer music gets louder*
no idea. we will never solve this conundrum. *ooga booga chanting and bongo drums intensify* maybe science be praised some future expert will enlighten us soon. *high pitched angry ululating echoes from mosque towers* until then we need to accept that finns are now bad at math.
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>>529952556
I meant that I have nothing against Ukrainians or Russians. Non-whites should leave though.
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>>529952556
Cant you start a private school and run it a bit harsher than public school?
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>>529952837
In the US atleast there isn't huge difference between private and public schools, just a few percentage points at best. The quality of the students is what matters the most.
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>>529951769
I´ve never had any problems with asians. You behave in classroom very well. You try to learn and you want to learn. Just like Ukrainians and Russians. I could have over populated classroom filled with finnish, ukrainians, russians and asians and ALL would get high scores even half of them couldn´t speak finnish perfectly. You guys are great, I have to give you that.
p.s. what you wrote, I agree.
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>>529952837
Holy shit that was stupid multitalent level question. Short answer: Yes, but you can google the effort it takes.
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>>529953113
*Finns
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>>529949887
>Former Soviet Union
>Estonia
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I will go now, so no more answering, but I think I made my point very clear.
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somalian pirates enriched their culture and test scores



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