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>reconquista happened north to south
>the brownest spanish region is in the north
explain to me how is this possible
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Fuck, what led big black berber bvlls to Galicia? Was it their Suebi snowbunnies?
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There wasn't really that great a movement of people from North Africa to Iberia during the Muslim conquest. They mostly just overlaid a warrior elite on top of the existing population, and the former were themselves largely Arabized Berbers etc. rather than Bedouins or whatever
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>>529960468
browns are parasites that always travel to whites to leech of them
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>>529960468
These are BLACK IRISH
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>529960579
Good lord you are an obnoxious faggot today
Guranteed you are the same brazilmutt spamming multiple threads with dogshit like this
Do you ever tire of being this fucking annoying?
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>>529961372
Keep dilating
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>529961431
ironic coming from a brasilian. Chances are you are both a mutt and a tranny
Look how desperately you are even looking for (You)s
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>>529960971
we have a lot of germoid parasites in Mallorca
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>>529960971
pretty sure most immigrants in spain are in the whitest areas on the map
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>>529960468
Non-zero chance this was caused by internal migrations within the Roman Empire, btw.
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>>529960468
preArabian Berber are not brown
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>>529960468
> mayor rastro
and it's probably 1% at best
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>>529963237
~0-11%, that figure is adapted from the original in this paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08272-w
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>>529963990
that paper also proposes an explanation for it
>We speculate that the pattern we see is driven by later internal migratory flows, such as between Portugal and Galicia, and this would also explain why Galicia and Portugal show indistinguishable ancestry sharing with non-Spanish groups more generally. Alternatively, it might be that these patterns reflect regional differences in patterns of settlement and integration with local peoples of north African immigrants themselves, or varying extents of the large-scale expulsion of Muslim people, which occurred post-Reconquista and especially in towns and cities
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>>529960468

A lot of the North African ancestry in Spain comes from Phoenicians-Carthaginians and free movements of peoples during the 7 centuries of Roman Spain.
Some of the North African ancestry comes from Berbers in the 700s-800s who defected to the Christian side when they felt they had been screwed by Syrian Arab elites. Spain was invaded in 711, when Spain was invaded Berbers had only been muslim for one generation or less (Arabs conquered Tunisia in 680 iirc) and most of Berbers were Christians or sons of Christians, and spoke vulgar Latin as first or second language, so defecting to the Christian side wasn't that rare, in the very early middle ages when the Islamic World was still majority Christian and even Syria was still full of Greek speakers.
Some of the north african ancestry comes from slaves they captured during the reconquista, forced to work as feudal serfs, and they ended up marrying other serfs.
And some of the ancestyr comes from Moors who converted to Christianity during the reconquista.

The Reconquista was a real ethnic cleansing that made Southern Spain similar to Northern Spain through repopulation of former Muslim lands. But probably, rather than forced expulsion, what happened was Muslims escaped-emmigrated because they prefered to move to North Africa than being ruled by Christians, similar to how the Germans in Eastern Europe escaped from the Red Army.
When we look at the DNA from Al Andalus cemeteries, it was full of half north african people, but today, the most north african dna you see in Spain is around 7-8% in the west and south (Basques, Catalans, Aragonese have 0)
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>>529960468
100% of Spain is Nafri, that's why they hate the USA
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>>529964492
It's tricky.
>https://faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1096/fj.202502634R
>Taken together, both fastGLOBETROTTER and ALDER yield overlapping time estimates for the introduction of North African and Middle Eastern ancestry into Galicia. For interpretative clarity, we adopt the central point estimates of both methods, 52 generations from ALDER and 54 from fastGLOBETROTTER, to define a reference interval of admixture of 620–670ce.
>We also estimated the timing of the introduction of the North African/Middle Eastern genetic component into various Iberian regions using the NDNAB dataset. While these estimates must be interpreted with caution due to the dataset's relatively low SNP density and limited sample sizes, they nonetheless reveal informative regional patterns. The inferred admixture dates (in generations, with 95% confidence intervals) were as follows: Andalusia/Central Iberia: 33 (95% CI: 31−36), Catalonia: 39 (95% CI: 35−45), Basque Country/Navarra: 55 (95% CI: 31−70), Cantabria: 46 (95% CI: 41−61), and Asturias: 51 (95% CI: 46−55). Notably, Galicia showed an admixture time of 43 generations in the NDNAB dataset, compared to 52 generations when using the higher-resolution WGS data from the GAL cohort.
>To further validate this signal, we merged the northern regions (Basque Country/Navarra, Cantabria, Asturias, and Galicia; n=164) to increase statistical power and compared them with the Andalusia/Central Iberia group (n=191). This analysis yielded an admixture estimate of 48 generations (95% CI: 45−51) for northern Iberia, significantly older than the 33 generations estimated for the South–Central regions. These findings suggest that the introduction of North African/Middle Eastern ancestry into Iberia may have occurred in multiple waves or via regionally distinct demographic processes, with earlier influxes into the North than previously assumed.
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>>529966159
I was looking at that as well, maybe there was a cascade effect of Roman era southerners who had already important nafri ancestry moving north to escape the muslims
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>>529966810
Maybe.
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>>529960468
it's called americans (jews) flooding europe with trash



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