Is this really what protestantism is like?
Source?
>>529965378Those who bless Israel will be blessed. Those who curse Israel will be cursed.
>>529965378It's what christianity is in general. That's why I don't follow it.
>>529965506Where is this quote from exactly?
>>529965378/pol/ was saying Christians were all pro israel golems. Then I realized they mean Protestants. Then I realized the Vatican is Protestant. Then I realized they were Right, as there are no Christians.
Are you interested in learning more about the US-Israel special relationship? Read the following thread:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/522660170/#522660236
>>529965378amerigolems are such a scary sight, whether it's goblinos, liberals and niggers or fat old protestant boomers. What a fucking freak show.
>>529965458https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11405250/
>>529965607The Scofield Bible
>>529965607Bible. It means people of God. Baby killing rapist genocidal assholes are not the people of God. These people killed the Lord Jesus Christ. Christ told us they are the children of satan, not Judeans, and are lying they are God's people. Still lying to this day... unless your god is satan, they are not the people of God.
>>529965458a little book called the Bible. try reading it some time.
I don’t think so. Maybe there are some Evangelicals who preach it but, for the most part, *Zionism* within Christianity is a somewhat new phenomenon. For most of history, Jews have been looked upon with suspicion by most denominations, including Protestant ones.
>>529965847You really should, kike bro. It says you're father is the devil and you're lying that you're Judean and Israel. God says you're a soulless weed and your father is satan. Hope this helps, see you tomorrow telling the same damned lies.
>>529965378You cannot be a true Christian and support Judaism, same as you cannot support any other religion. There is only one way to salvation and that is through Jesus Christ. Pluralism is heresy.
>>529965378No. If you can find this sort of thing in any Protestant traditions foundational writings like the Book of Concord, the Book of Common Prayer, the Westminster Confession of Faith, or something like that please let us know.
>>529966054there are no lies in God's holy word
>>529965378You see, it's shit like this why no one takes (((America))) seriously
>>529965378I’m Protestant and I would stuff you in an oven with a jew, along with these things. These are just some fringe retards like you faggot.
Someone should do this but with Catholics and Protestants
>>529965378Calvinism and its consequences have been a disaster for Christianity.
>>529965847>>529966161The promises made to God's people belong to God's people, which are baptized Christians. The promises made to His people have passed onto the church. The only question Christians should have is what constitutes the church. Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Assyrians, and Orientals will all tell you that their specific organization is the church. Protestants will tell you the church is comprised of all true baptized believers no matter what visible organization they affiliate with. Nobody includes Jews in their definition of the church, or any other non-believer for that matter.
>>529966161True. There's no lie that the jews are not Judeans and are the Synagogue of Satan
>>529965846>Bible.Where? never seen the actualy verse
>>529966527Cope. You are not a descendant of Jacob (aka Israel). There is a place for you in the world to come, but you are not and never will be part of God's chosen people.
>>529966527Who follows Christ? If Christ says right and Luther said left, then Protestants believe Luther and claim Jesus was gibbering about rocks, and forgiving sins, and divorce and remarriage being adultery. If Christ is the Lord, judge and redeemer, and some "vision" of Mary that the Lord didn't say he would send makes promises to get you out of the judgement of the Lord (brown scapular), or if you worship her she will give promise to give you things (forbidden by the Council of Trent as "Worship" and not veneration), then you are a Mary worshiper. And the Orthodox reject the same words of Christ that the Protestants do in MatthewSo, Not modern Catholics, not Protestants, not Orthodox. There are no Christians.
>Will Peter Schaefer's new book, Jesus in the Talmud (Mar.), be controversial? "I'm afraid so," Schaefer told RBL. "That's why I'm nervous.">His editor at Princeton University Press, Brigitta van Rheinberg, laughed but agreed: "You think, oh, whoa, this is not going to go over well in certain circles.">Schaefer, who heads up Princeton's Judaic studies program, has collected and analyzed all the passages in the Talmud that apparently refer to the founder of Christianity, texts that were previously censored from Talmud editions for centuries. In his book he argues—against other scholars—that the scandalous passages indeed refer not to some other figure of ancient times but to the famous Jesus of Nazareth.>What exactly is so scandalous? How about Jesus punished in Hell for eternity by being made to sit in a cauldron of boiling excrement? That image appears in early manuscripts of the Babylonian Talmud, as does a brief account of Jesus' trial and execution—not by the Romans but by the Jewish high court, the Sanhedrin. The Jewish community, to the extent Jews were even aware of these excised texts, has been content to let them remain obscure and unknown.https://web.archive.org/web/20090308055522/http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6411679.html
I'm just tired of the sacrificing of the young for the sake of the old
>>529965378Go to any Baptist church service in the midwest. They're ALL like this.
>>529965378In the treatise, Martin Luther describes Jews as a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth". Furthermore, Luther writes that the synagogue has been an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut".In the first ten sections of the treatise, Luther expounds, at considerable length, upon his views concerning Jews and Judaism and how these compare to Protestants and Protestant Christianity. Following the exposition, Section XI of the treatise advises Protestants to carry out seven remedial actions, namely:to burn down Jewish synagogues and schools and warn people against themto refuse to let Jews own houses among Christiansto take away Jewish religious writingsto forbid rabbis from preachingto offer no protection to Jews on highwaysfor usury to be prohibited and for all Jews' silver and gold to be removed, put aside for safekeeping, and given back to Jews who truly convertto give young, strong Jews flail, axe, spade, and spindle, and let them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow
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>>529965607>>529965458The jews trying to demoralize you will only answer with "It's in your holy book, goyim! Lolz!"As a real white man I will of course give you the source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Til_Kingdom_Come_(film)
>>529967498Lutherans do none of that while praising jews constantly. Prots love to use Martin Luther as some gotcha, but he's rolling in his grave with their behavior.
>>529965607It's from Genesis, the first book. People who quote it should read Malachi, the last book. Then go on to read Matthew. "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit."
>>529965847The scofield bible isn't the real Bible.You are just an heretic and will end up in hell as God wished.Kike killed his son and will rot in hell too.
My mom was a big Christian Baptist when I was a kid and she'd say shit like that. I don't know why it never took. I actually asked my dad the last time I saw him and finally confronted him if he really believed that shit (he never went to church but he'd always say he did) and at first he was like oh yeah of course hahaha then when I told him I didn't believe him he just shrugged and went "yeah, no, it's not real".
>>529965458>>529965378People assume all Protestants are zionist. Most of them may be soft zionist but they don't worship Israel as people assume, specially younger ones.
>>529967084>Protestants believe Luther and claim Jesus was gibbering about rocks, and forgiving sins, and divorce and remarriage being adultery.What the fuck are you on about?All of that is in the Lutheran Confessions (book of Concord). I can't speak for heretics claiming Luther's name while rejecting his catechisms and confessions (ELCA).And your need to stop conflating Luther with Calvin/Zwingli/Anglicans.
>>529967859Yeah I just found it, Genesis 12:3, but it says Abraham, not Israel..... so the blessing is to Abraham and not jews? Am i missing something here?
>>529965378Most Americans are completely judaized, christian conservatives even more so than leftists. They are completely amoral vermin who would kill their own children if a jew told them to.
>>529967706>Lutherans do none of that while praising jews constantlyThen they're not Lutheran, they're apostates.
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>>529968106Right. You're the true Lutheran.
>>529968106This.My Pastor calls out modern jews in his homilies at least 3 Sundays each month.
Is this the thread where the demon worshippers that submit to rome try to say protestants le bad? Lol.
>>529968106When did Lutherans ever do these things though
>>529968071this the first time you realize people abuse the Word of God for their own benefit?
>>529968219While begging the entire congregation to donate money to those poor jewish widows
>>529968191>directly contradict the teachings and policies of Martin Luther>im lutheran bro :DDDDD
>>529965625Vatican II. Sedevacantists are the only Catholic naming jews and their lies.
all abrahamists need to be killed.
>>529968367lol no
>>529968407>TRUST ME BRO, I'M LUTHERAN*donates thousands of dollars to israel*>I SWEAR DUDE*chugs jew cum*>I PROMISE LUTHER WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE JEWS
>>529965378Jesus that is absolutely disgusting. My mom is a catholic and my dad is a protestant and they agreed to raise me catholic. Mom hates jews BTW, based mom.
>>529965378It’s just you Americans.
>>529968071It's also in Genesis 27:29 and Numbers 24:9. But like I said, read Malachi. It's short and to the point.
>>529968556You're basically agreeing with me that Lutherans who support Israel aren't actually Lutheran, but you're just too much of a hostile contrarian to admit it without three posts of inane bullshit.
>>529968556>it was real in my mind
>>529967667>The jews trying to demoralize you>actually anglos just doing it to themselves
>>529965607Numbers 24. Balaam the magician is hired to curse the Israelites. But he finds that he is unable to do so, because they're divinely protected by the Lord.>>529967898it's directly from the kjv, retard
>>529968687The Jew that's going to judge me called Jews the Synagogue of Satan.
>>529965607>>529968743Jesus cursed Israel.
>>529965607Its in the Bible, but its not referring to the state Israel, its talking about a tribe.
The fact that there is so much apologetics towards catholicism on this board, and so much nonsensical scathing criticism of protestants, is the final proof you need that this is a brown infested board.Protestantism is the white man's religion simple as. Doesn't matter how many images you post of compromised mainline churches acting retarded. Anyone who is serious about their religion doesn't join a mainline church.
>>529968650>read Malachi. It's short and to the point.Thanks, reading it now. I also googled it and this "blessing" is also quoted in the New Testament in Galatians, but there it says the blessing was basically to "Abraham's seed, which is Christ - and those who are Christ's, they are the children of the promise", aka Christians.>>529968298I mean i'm surprised because this seems like very basic theology. Why would they try to lie about that?
>>529965506John 8:44-45King James Version44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
>>529966701in the afterlife you are punished with the evils you wished upon others. every yid will boil in filth and every christkike will burn in flames.
>>529965607Genesis 12:3 states, "I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."It is referring to the descendants of Abraham, which turned into Christians Muslims and Jews. The nazis replace it with "Israel" to trigger people. They're an unimaginative lot, the Nazis, so they like to spam it in every thread.Imo, at the end of the day religion is all just one big gay larp. It's useful to impart moral framework to children, and to control sheep. Don't spend too much of the only life you have debating which religious text is bullshit; they all are.
>>529968949>Why would they try to lie about that?satan always uses God Word to deceive.>“Did God actually say, ‘You[a] shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?”> “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”first make people doubt the Word of God.then slip in the lie.
>>529969222XX:XX:04MI6 keeps tagging threads today.
>>529969040>(((King James Version)))>just more anglican slopyou retards are hopeless lmao
>>529965458In all of it's gloryhttps://files.catbox.moe/txghl7.webm
>>529969335So what's the correct version? At the end of the day, it's all semitic slop no matter how you translate it.
>>529969160I checked the quote in the old English Bible and there it says "Thee" (singular) which would mean that the promise is made to Abraham himself (one person).Then i did a deep dive, so basically this verse is quoted in the New Testament, in Galatians 3 - but here, it says that it applies to Christians, because it was made "to Abraham's seed, which is Christ".How are evangelicals getting this so wrong? It took me 15 minutes to cross-reference it.
>>529968294>When did Lutherans ever actually persecute Jews in practice?Are you retarded?
>>529969426now you're getting it
>>529969335whatever angelican is. Sorry I dont support gays in church, sorry an english translation of the bible makes you sad, cry about it I guess
>>529965378Yes. They are deep in it.They are difficult to reason with.They take it by faith and will fall back upon faith.Faith can not be argued with, for they did not adopt this stance out of logic they will not abandon it for logic.If theyre right, good for them theyve won.If theyre wrong, theyve committed an evil more grave than lucifer.they gamble their souls on this.
>>529969357isn't this the kind of heresy that would get you massacred in medieval europe?
>>529968071>>529965607In Genesis God said to Abram he will make of him a nation and will bless those who bless him and curse those who curse him.God also said he would destroy israel on Sinai until Moses convinced him otherwise, which suggests God considers the promise to Abram fulfilled.
>>529965378Can you believe Zionists never internalize statements about Israel in the Bible? They just believe it's actually talking about the Pharisee governed modern state.
>>529969639>lutherans generally do not believe mary herself is an idol, but they consider the acts of praying to her, venerating her, or treating her as a mediator to be idolatrous>venerating means showing deep, reverent respect or honor toward someone or something, often holy figures, relics, or revered individuals.hitler was an idol worshipper by the definition and laws of lutheranism
>>529969982That was a long time ago. Now, Lutherans resemble Catholics more than they do other Protestants.
>>529969508Like I said, there are many versions of religious texts. All are equally bullshit. They outline actual concepts like "be kind" and "do good works", and those are useful lessons.Then they go on to say "the people who believe this religion are special and you should feel good about being one of us and also here's an answer to Death which we are all inherently concerned about", and that is bullshit. Even if we were to hypothetically agree "X religion is 100% accurate to reality", they would have no way of knowing, no way of proving it, only faith. Hoard no gnosis. Enjoy your faith if it brings you comfort and structure.
>>529965378Makes you wonder why they don’t just convert to Judaism instead of pretending to be something they’re not? Oh wait, because Jews hate converts and see them as subhuman. “Christian” zionists have to be the most deluded cucks on earth.
>>529969816That's what the Inquisition was all about. Pseudo-Jew-converts.>>>/wsg/6103491>>>/wsg/6103572https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1772643579210742.mp4https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1772651904423733.mp4
>LOL look at this compromised mainline church that no one gives a fuck about acting retarded!! Don't you feel STUPID now?? Are there actually people in 2026 that still don't understand that protestantism is heavily decentralized and that there are plenty of churches that don't promote nonsense? You aren't going to trick anyone into submitting to rome like this. Get better material.
>>529969914Yeah i just found out the promise was to Abraham, not Israel/Jews. In Galatians it brings up this quote but says it's about Christians, "Abraham's seed, which is Christ".
These people have never read the Old Testament.
>>529970217>You aren't going to trick anyone into submitting to rome like this.All the Protestants I know are converting to Orthodoxy.
>>529966527this
>>529969982>hitler was an idol worshipper by the definition and laws of lutheranismWell, yes, he didn't have a very well-developed personal theology.>>529970102We still think of ourselves as Catholics excommunicated by a heretical papacy.
>>529967039Christ says otherwise
>>529969357>hangs star of Remphan over the crosswew lad
>>529970293All the protestants you know are anglican/Presbyterian/baptist.
>>529970261Did you?
>>529970293sounds like one of those "everyone's doining it" peer pressure things. I ain't parying to Mary ever bro, sorry that's a sin, not calling some globohomo pope the vicar of Christ either.
>>529970102They're all buffet Catholics, even the Catholics.>RATA LATA SHATA MATA KATA LATA RATA FATA SATA RATA LATA!give me a break.
>>529968743>some heretical anglos doing heretical stuffNo wonder.Kikes killed Jesus and God cursed them for this.Kikes scripture say Jesus is in hell boiling in excrement. They are demons and Satanic creatures.
>>529969982Who brought up Hitler? I don't care if Hitler was or was not Lutheran. A large plurality of Nazi Germany was Lutheran and Lutheranism was officially celebrated by the party as a positive influence on the German people. Lutherans voted overwhelmingly for Hitler as chancellor and served at every level of the Nazi German government. To claim that Lutherans have never been practically counter-semite is laughable. The Protestant Reformation never objected to the Romans opinions on the Jews, which at the time was that they are unsaved vermin. Of course, Vatican II made the mistake of changing the Roman opinion on that, now claiming that they can possibly be saved through their adherence to the law, which is a complete inversion of Lutheran thinking that nobody can be saved by the law.
>>529970314I'm merely offering an argument to the image of nazis being lutheran. also see the boilerplate kike responses that I attribute to lutherans/protestants >>529970524. they all operate on a script and it all goes back to the indoctrination >>529965378
>>529970829>>529969639
>>529970217>that there are plenty of churches that don't promote nonsenseNone of which have the same political capital that the batshit crazy evangelicals have. >You aren't going to trick anyone into submitting to rome like thisMaybe you should try not worshipping some dead jew on a stick and his book of magical fairy tales.
>>529968071https://www.youtube.com/live/0MQI26WLRKY?t=3117&si=lCMrD_TzG4lWFxF8here this explains the whole thingif the time stamp fucked up it starts at 51:57tldr Galatians clarifies that those blessing are to Christ and his followers
>>529966673yeah, we’re the GOOD synagogue, right!
>>529971001Wow how compelling. Are you gonna tell me about the flying spaghetti monster and magic sky daddy next? Get behind me satan.
>>529970432>Did you?Yes, the entire thing. It's hilarious and sad. Just the Jews being disobedient and rebelling against God and being BTFO over and over and over again. Literally incapable of learning.I just to entertain the possibility of "Christian Identity" and reading the entire OT dispelled it for me.
>>529970524>sounds like one of those "everyone's doining it" peer pressure things.It's actually because Orthodoxy is the one true holy catholic and apostolic church.
>>529970987The Nazi Party was made of a lot more than just Hitler you absolute cretin. It doesn't matter what Hitler was when a vast plurality of card carrying Nazis were Lutherans. The claim was that Protestants never acted against the Jews. I counter that Protestants were largely behind the biggest counter-semetic action of the last thousand years. The personal faith of Adolf Hitler has no place in my argument.
>>529965847Israel is Christians in the new covenant. The current jews are hated by God - and yes that's in the Bible.One must wonder wtf mutt prots are even reading
>>529971271You could provide links to some quotes.
>>529965378No, not in my experience growing up in a protestant Christian family. Hell, we didn't even know we were protestant, we just knew we weren't Catholic and that we called ourselves "non-denominational." We've never believed that the Jews were superior to us in God's eyes.
>>529971174The only thing getting behind you are the kikes lining up to fuck your ass bareback. You voted for this.
>>529971127Thanks sir
>>529965847>He thinks modern kikes are biblical Jewslollmao even
>>529971377Not for me. There were plenty of churches before catholicism was a state sponsored religion. You can claim it is Devine but I think it is just a church. A church, or church leader can't save you, nor your works. Only Jesus can, so no thanks.
>>529970314>Let's keep arguing about it.Meanwhile, Lutherans and Catholics do catechism, infant baptize, use the same candle setups, and emphasize reverence while the other protestants are playing fast and loose with sacraments filling the sanctuary with rock and roll and flailing like idiots during worship.
>>529971981My brother in Christ, I'm not certain that you understand what these words being used mean.
>>529965378The kid in the beginning looks like he’s going to be a turbo chud when he gets older lmao
>>529965378>its only the protties!your branch is like that too, christcuck
>>529972159The Lutheran Reformation was always the most conservative one. Change nothing that must not be changed. Any tradition that points to Christ, we may keep. Any that distract from Him we must destroy.
>>529972218Well, I'm not great at explaining thigs but I will try, Christianity was already very popular before Catholicism. We know there were at least 7 churches before then. Catholicism became a thing an then tried to limit who could teach and receive the Word of God. The bible says you accept Jesus' sacrifice as forgiveness for your sins and repent and love eachother to be forgiven, it doesnt say go to a specific church, and say hail Hary. I am not judging you and saying you are not saved because of your Catholicism but I don't think Catholicism is for me, nor is any particular denomination.
>>529972958I am talking about Eastern Orthodoxy, anon, not the Roman Catholic church which split off from it a thousand years ago. Small-c "catholic" means "universal".
>>529973253Sorry for not knowing the difference I kinda don't look to far into churches that put extra biblical requirements on forgiveness and salvation because that's not up the church. Hope that makes sense
>>529973675Check out "Know The Faith" by Michael Shanbour if you would like to know more. Specifically goes into "what the heck is Orthodoxy" from a Protestant perspective.Cheers, anon.
>>529965378I watched this documentary and the most evil scene was when that Israeli women, who had helped distribute the donations from America in Israel, comes to visit their little town. When she arrives and gets driven to the church, they drive past many dilapidated buildings and talk about how big parts of their town look almost abandoned. And then this bitch starts going on about how communities that give a lot of money to Israel tend to be better off in the long run, because God has graced them or something. So in other words, she sees the poverty and the poor state of this town and her first thought is that they need to intensify and extend this parasitic relationship as much as possible.
>>529974427I guess it couldn't hurt. Isn't that guy in the robe that got stabbed in the eye Orthodox? I watched some of his sermons, seems to be a man of God, I enjoyed listening to him but I think there are probably men of God in all Christian faiths unless it's one of those lgbtq+ churches. Anyways. take care
>>529966123damn this is good, saved.
>>529965558Catholicism has no theological reason to like Jews - they follow the secular holly golly like everyone else, but not as retarded as dispensationalist protestants.
>>529965378Not in europe but trust americans to fuck up everything
>>529974482Vile
>>529965458I think it's from the 2000s documentary Jesus Camp.Also where this meme is from.
>>529965458Probably some Chinese siteOh wait this IS a chinese site
>>529975284No it's from:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11405250/
