Why can't we just do this? You know how fucking based it would be to get on a train from New York to Colorado. Smoke some weed and come back home on the same day for 10$.USA needs to do this ASAP
Building big rail lines is pointless when most of it is going underwater within 2 centuries
>>529978674Kek. That much integration at low cost?Basically, all niggers would be migratory and live in those trains.
You needed the steel for WW2 and tore up all railroads, remember?
>>529978674>for 10$.China's rail isn't cheap.
Americans hate socialism
not profitable, balance between capitalism and planned economy
>>529978674We have trains. People don’t wanna ride them though because democrats allow feral niggers to piss on passengers and stab them
>>529978870No the US still has the longest railway system on Earth. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/railroads-by-country
>>529978674>China rail 1.2 Trillion USD in debt>Have almost no ridership as it's too expensive for most Chinese to afford>Over 200 stations closed as they go to no where>trains run at only 150km/h (planned was 300km/h) as the tracks are poor quality and failingsuccess, kek. cue all the shills that say china #1 and communism works.
>>529978674Because the Amerimutt Epstein class regime spends money on radical jewish terrorism and shills spamming deflecting whataboutchina ragebait bot threads on /pol/ rather than fixing the problems or servicing the needs of its peasants because they dont give a fucks about them and the loopsided system works perfectly well for them and they arent afraid of of unorganized and sugar syrup dependent Amerimutt peasants with their meme toyguns.
>>529978674ching chong, bing bongtrains are for fags
>>529979072Yep, here's China rail laid over US territory
>>529978674Why can't you come up with new thread ideas?
>>529978674…and smoke pot. Can you imagine being on a train for 8 hours smelling this shit. Niggers need to be shot.
>>529978674You'll need to pay a lot more than just $10, and that's one way. Anyway you've got more jeets than chinks, and more mudapes than jews, and all these four elements within your country has a worse effect than the gross total of all niggers in this world. Sorry, you can't have your rail
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>>529978674>trains>buses>public transportsorry mutt, did you forget that you live in a shitskin filled terminal-phase empire rather than a 1950s high-trust monoculture society again?
>>529979570>China>high-trust kek
>>529978674You literally can't do that with late stage capitalism. If you want democracy you need a revolution, otherwise you'd need some form of dictatorship, be it Chinese style socialism with Chinese characteristics (national socialism), monarchy, junta or whatever.Corruption makes the investments you want impossible and if you can't keep corruption to a minimum you need a system where you have some form of authority that can purge the corruption when necessary.
>>529979801Keeping Amtrak alive is exactly the sort of government corruption you pretend to know anything about.
>>529979801In communism we trust>Tofu dreg we get
>>529978674It will just be a high speed brownoid delivery system.No thanks.
>>529978674>b-but le niggurs!Bullet trains would cost more than a greyhound. And let's be real, it would be awesome to go from Houston to dallas.in 45 minutes without having to pay for a flight and go through TSA. People who don't want a high-speed rail are troglodyte retards who think every public infrastructure project means giving welfare to niggers.
>>529978674> niggers can enter high speed trains but not planesok, now that the standard /pol/ argument is out of the way, lets hear the real reasons
>>529980030TSA covers trains as wellhttps://www.transit.dot.gov/sites/fta.dot.gov/files/docs/regulations-and-guidance/safety/66201/rail-security-what-you-need-know-tsa.pdf
>>529978674You have a huge and comparatively sparsely populated country. The only train connections that would make economic sense are probably on the East coast.An East-to-West track would be insane. Imagine the track maintenance and repairs you'd have to constantly do out in shitfuck county, which is hit by massive temperature swings and tornados. Plus you have bands of spics/niggers/methheads who'd constantly steal the metal to sell it for scrap.
And no, public transportation doesnt equate niggadry. China has tons of niggers and yet their rail and subway systems and public transport is immaculate >Chinese is le homogeneous It's not diverse as the US but it's still has a lot of non-Han ethnicities.
>>529980202>China has tons of niggers
>>529979973I'm not a communist, American capitalism is just extremely corrupt. Game theory predicts almost all political systems will end up corrupt, the inertia in democracy makes it more difficult to escape from it and the added inertia from first past the post makes it even worse.
>>529980151To the same extent as air transportation?
>>529980202>non-Han ethnicities.yeah, but they are all asians. their nigger amount is very low. Still high enough to cause riots though, they cause the Tiananmen square riots.
>>529979193>>China rail 1.2 Trillion USD in debtvs. 50000km HSR asset that supplants all short haul flights for ~1B people, you spend the same amount each year for fighting wars for jews>>trains run at only 150km/h (planned was 300km/h) as the tracks are poor quality and failingwrong, they will run at 400km/h actually>>Have almost no ridership as it's too expensive for most Chinese to affordwrong, highest ridership in the world, low occupation areas will follow; chinese build ahead of demand
>>529980262Yes, but train ridership is lower in absolute numbers and doesn't have rush periods around holidays.
>>529980381>but they are all asians.And an Irish and an Anglo are all white. Them being all asian means nothing. Jeets are also asian.>>529980467Because trains are currently shit. They don't have to be
>>529978793>american educationno wonder China won
>>529980428>wrong, highest ridership in the world, low occupation areas will follow; chinese build ahead of demand>Country defined by decades of urbanization and below replacement births>build ahead of demand
>>529980549>Them being all asian means nothing.It means they're not niggers.
>>529980428Nope average HST in China is only 150km/h China only quotes the speed between bejing and shanghai which is 300km/h for that one track. Also HST in China this year were empty for lunar new year. No one could afford the ticket prices and every used the old green lines.
>>529978674>>NY to COEnough said
>>529980608urbanization still not complete + lots of people yet to ascend to middle class, in 5 years a lot more people can afford it than now and building ahead of demand will create economic opportunity zones around the railway knots
>>529980608I believe they encourage urbanization and migration for where they are focusing infrastructure projects. That's why you can find videos of subway stations with nothing there except for a subway station.
>>529978674We spend our taxdollars on blowing up babies in the middle east, dumbass.
>>529980939>urbanization still not completeWhich means even less demand for rural rail systems. Urbanization is always precluded by urban intensification.
>>529978674>>529979193>>529979769>>529979973Why did America lose a rail war?
>>529980955>I believe they encourage urbanization>That's why you can find videos of subway stations with nothing there except for a subway station.>Urbanization >nothing there except for a subway station.No, Urbanization always involves rural flight.
>>529981100HSR dont stop in rural areas, we are talking about cities with at least 500k people that even get a stop
>>529978674Corruption. Even though the US has stronger eminent domain laws than China, ability to endlessly siphon money with impact studies and proposals creates a sluice of corruption that ensures very little physical infrastructure is built, and what is built is done at an exhorbitant price>>529978900Shinkansen aren't cheap either. But it really is convenient to walk from the subway, past a normal turnstile, and being on a HSR to another city, even when a regional flight might be cheaper.
>>529980759Even with all the censorship the chinese social media were all talking about how empty the HST were and high ticket prices. last year, 2026 was worsehttps://www.peoplenewstoday.com/news/en/2025/01/23/1085952.html.Empty-High-Speed-Rail-Seats-During-Spring-Festival-Travel-Packed-Green-Train-Cars.htmlEven Xi has commented on ithttps://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3341412/china-tightens-rail-approvals-xi-warns-overbuilding-waste-and-operational-trouble
>>529980759> Nope average HST in China is only 150km/h source?does that inlude the time spent at intermittant stations maybe?
>>529980428>vs. 50000km HSR asset that supplants all short haul flights for ~1B people, you spend the same amount each year for fighting wars for jewsAnd electrified HSR would make the US more resilient to oil shocks, as France discovered.
>>529981201We use planes, faster, able to change destinations and economical. >But whatabout the environment?!?!!picrel
>>529978674The reason it's a bad idea and that most people don't just take a Greyhound for this sort of trip is that because niggers would flock to this sort of transportation and so you'll be stuck with them all around you for your whole trip.
>>529978674Even with high speed rail, you won't go from New York to Colorado and back in one day. The top speed of the shinkansen is 200 mph. New York City to Denver is 1600 miles. That's 8 hours each way assuming no stops (there will be stops) and a straight line (it will not be straight).
>>529981468Until America is able to enforce the same standards of decorum and personal behavior expected on planes to other forms of transit, it will continue to be at the mercy of the obnoxious, antisocial, and sometimes violent.
>>529981319It does include, weather conditions, maintenance conditions and station stops. It's the actual speed and not the theoretical or best speed.
>>529981261>HSR dont stop in rural areasI never said stop, they run through large tracks of rural territory to get to a shrinking urban center who's residents have left for a major hub city or conurbation.Issue with running through large tracts of rural territory is maintenance.
>>529981660US just needs to accept the same standards China does.
ITT: Amerilard cope
>>529978975Our train tech hasnt evolved since the 70s and the riders havent evolved since 100,000 BC
>>529979423Smoking car dumbass
>>529981936Illegal since 1993 in the US.
>>529978674>Why can't we just do this?Right of way, environmental impact studies + nimbys in primarily blue states. You don't get that because faggot (D) won't let you have it.
>>529978674The answer is always niggers
Because "that would be communism!". It's because car companies, big oil and the elite all lobby against having public transport. They want you to suffer. They want you to buy expensive shitty cars that will break down in less then 100k miles. They want you to get into accidents and deal with gridlock traffic. It keeps people sick and tired, easier to control. >Inb4 evil commie how dare you suggest the government help it's citizens instead of sending money to the Jews.
>>529981830I'm not asking for Japanese levels of manners on a train. I'm asking for at least the cleanliness and manners of Bangkok's BTS and MRT (a level that puts most American transit to shame).
>>5299786741. It's retarded2. It's expensive3. We have buses that do the same thing4. We have airports that cost the same to travel5. This is a flex by a country that can't afford to keep it operational or even maintained and only ~1% of its routes are productive
You can’t have good public services or goods in America because of blacks and browns. It’s like asking why there isn’t HSR from Cape Town to Cairo yet like Rhodes dreamed. Everybody knows this but nobody wants to confront it.
>>529978674>this thread again>1pbtid>autists still run with itSo tiresome
>>529981714Ok well thats kind of useless then, its an expectancy over a variety of conditions, like if you would give a car speed but it includes averaged out traffic jams, bad weather driving, food stops etc.
>>529982204Except the fact that flying is a modern humiliation ritual and more ghetto than any train travel. The biggest subhumans in the world flock to plane travel, and your muh equal cost goes out the window when you have to pay first class to not have to deal with niggers
>>529982406>like if you would give a car speed but it includes averaged out traffic jams, bad weather driving, food stops etc.You do that when predicting travel time.
>>529979769Doesn't exposing that in a video imply that it is not the norm and that the workers are retards?
>>529982245>brownsApologize to browns. Mexico City has a nicer transit system than basically anywhere in the US. This isn't rocket science. If Mexicans and Jungle Asians can figure this shit out, so can we.
>>529982579>it is not the normThere are hundreds of Thousands of videos of that and similar levels of retardation out of China.
>>529982544for an individual trip yeah, the averaged speed over all trips over all cars over all roads of the US undertaken in a year gives you just a number
>>529978674we told you for ages to do this
>>529978674if Operation AIPAC Fury continues, it will have to happen, but not before the economy is destroyed
>>529982579>>529982748This. In China those videos are shared like girls in the west share makeup tips. It's just something to do and record to share with friends.
>>529979072>worldpopulationreview.comThats not a real site. Thats an Amerimutt liteeral private blog who pulls shit off google and wikipedia with sloppy citations>railway systemThe Chinese figure is track owned by the public tranport company which excludes industry private trackThe Amerimutt figure all track from every depleted mine or plant that may look like webm related and may not even be connected to any system. Thats why on Wikipedia the Amerimutts have a lower elecritifaction rate than Zimbabwe and Congo. Because its a bullshit table but it would hurt the feelings of Amerimutts who ultimately own Wikipedia to correct their glorified blog post on the most important penis length number
>>529982597Have you been there? Because I have. There isn’t a brownoid city on earth where the trains aren’t overflowing with thefts and assaults. Yeah, they’re maybe not as bad as any with blacks but trust me they are not good.
>>529980428Oh God, Germany, your letting chinks in now? They filthy little trash picking pigs, don't do it.
>>529981882kek
>>529982475You have to do that on HSR too. Those rails cost a LOT of money to maintain and so we leave the rail travel to the companies that can maintain it. AMTRAK is bus-tier just like Chinese HSR.
>>529982597Nobody want this btw. We have a functional interstate highway system and air travel. Trains are for highly urbanized yet poorer countries who don’t value autonomy and freedom. Next you’re going to tell me we should line every street with Victorian gas lamps.
>>529980030Get a car you fucking loser.
>>529982963This is AI, this track is easily replaced and routine track work takes place on a regular basis.
>>529978674Except for the weed you can already do this. It will take you a week and cost a couple grandIts not that cheap for the chinese either though
>>529983006I thought Mexico City's metro was pretty safe.Bangkok's Skytrain and MRT were as safe as anything I'd seen in Japan.
>>529978900>China's rail isn't cheap.Its not expensive either, Beijing to Shenzhen tickets are $100 - $200 depending on how early you order. 2100km, Express, 5 Stops, 8.5 hour journey time.
>>529982123this has to be bait. no one, even a leftoid commie, is this fucking stupid>they want you to sufferby having your own awesome car that you can go wherever in and do whatever you want in>that break down in less than 100k milesaverage drivers add 10k miles per year to their cars, which means a new car should last at least 10 years before it even hits 100k, and many last double or far longer than that when taken care of>accidents and gridlock trafficbetter than being herded around the public thoroughfare with a bunch of niggers, criminals, drug addicts, waiting to get robbed, raped, and murdered>makes people easier to control and tired!apparently you have never ridden a public bus in your fucking life.please kill yourself.
>>529979275>>529979072What percentage of US rail is high speed? 10%? 5%?
>>529983345>Beijing to Shenzhen tickets are $100 - $200 dependingWhich is extremely expensive for China.
>>529982748In a country of billions. Wow.
>>529978674We already have a gigantic highway system and the most airports. And we use a huge rail network for freight. Why do we need a third transit mode for passenger travel? What would be the payback time on that as an investment?
>>529978900It is. My cousin was just in China, took a 300km train ride and the ticket was 20 RMB or $4.
>>529983232Nah the video is real, but it's a private track between two points and the company that owns it just doesn't care. They just run their trains slow over it. It's considered the worse track in the US and the only one ever shown of US railways. https://interestingengineering.com/videos/the-worst-railroad-track
>>529983345They make $3 an hour if they're lucky enough to work at foxconn or somewhere else western owned.
>>529981454>films 4 cooling towers and two actual smokestacks.
>>529983465basically 0% US only uses rail for freight>Amtrackand scenic passenger routes. Once US had planes all passenger travel is done via flying.
>>529983589Oh shit, that's not far from where I live. We have similar tracks that run through my town and they are regularly replaced.
>>529981201Same reason South Korea lost a sex with women war with any other nation: didn't care enough to show up to the battlefield.
>>529983591>>529983536Who gives a fuck if the average factory worker cant afford it? They don't need to move around anyway, just stay in their factory and do their damn job.
>>529983778Most tracks are regularly maintained, that track hasn't been maintained in over 60 years and has extremely heavy loads run over it.
>>529983900Why build HSR for people to travel if people don't need HSR to travel because they don't travel? That's what the bus is for.
>>529982204Intra-US Air Travel:>850 million trips/year>$184 billion in annual revenue>$175 billion in operating costs>Low capital costChinese Rail System:>4 billion trips/year>$138 billion in annual revenue>$135 billion in operating costs>$800 billion in subsidized capital costsOne is made to balance investment and capacity day-to-day, whereas the other one is made as a long-term investment into the country's future that will be paid off through massive industrialization over the next century. The Chinese system just doesn't make sense to the West because our thinking is short-term.And their rail system is actually profitable these days, even with maintenance costs included. That's outdated info you have.
>>529983371>better than being herded around the public thoroughfare with a bunch of niggers, criminals, drug addicts, waiting to get robbed, raped, and murderedThis is because American transit is grossly mismanaged. But this is a problem that has been solved as you'll see in literally any other country.
>>529983900>Who gives a fuck if the average factory worker cant afford it?That's not a sustainable business model.
>>529984100So that they can spam a Congolese STD-sharing forum with "China numba wan we best at rairroad" and usher in a new golden shower age.
>rail system is actually profitable>over 1 trillion in debt>ticket prices unaffordable to most after subsidization ended in 2023communist logic right here
>>529984191>And their rail system is actually profitable these daysIt isn't China rail includes the green trains which has significantly higher yields due to low operational costs.
>>5299845143 billion dent in a 1 trillion , interest bearing hole.
The more pressing question is why isn't the speed limit on highways 300mph?
>>529984582good point
>>529984367Everyone knows the solution, but enforcing basic laws was determined to be racist, just like insane asylums, so we can't have nice buses
>>529978674>get on a train from New York to Colorado. Smoke some weed and come back home on the same day>same daywow actually retarded. We are building high speed where it makes sense and the state gov isn't totally captured by democrat grifters. Like brightline in FL. Could really use one in the Texas triangle too.
>>529983591Did you wash out of China in 2005? Fuck off with this nonsense.
>>529984582Yep, their green trains are doing great and have been for decades.AI slop as I'm too lazy to track down sources>China's high-speed rail system has faced significant financial challenges, with accumulated debt reaching nearly $1 trillion. While subsidies were provided to support rail transport, they were gradually phased out by 2023, with some regional support continuing for specific projects.>China Railway expects to achieve a record transportation revenue of CNY1 trillion (approximately USD139.5 billion) in 2024, with plans to transport nearly 3.9 billion passengers and over 3.9 billion tons of cargo. The company has seen a steady increase in revenue, reflecting its significant role in the country's transportation infrastructure.
>>529984882Oops cut off part of it>Despite the growth in revenue, there are concerns regarding the profitability of many high-speed rail lines. Only a few lines, primarily in coastal areas, are profitable, while others face financial difficulties due to high operational costs and low passenger numbers during off-peak times.
>>529983555> Why do we need a third transit mode for passenger travel?You dont need it, its just a lot more comfortable than flying or driving.> What would be the payback time on that as an investment?You typically dont view HSR as a direct cashmaker short term investment from ticket sales, its a investment into country development. The economic payback is allowing further away areas from big metropolis centers for commuting, which can decrease housing costs and improve economic integration
>>529983096>we leave the rail travel to the companies that can maintain itno your regime leaves the profits in the hand on their elite peersthen fuels the operation with public aid and subsidies you goys pay forthe repairs happen only on paper while the tracks and trains still rott awayand the CEOS give themself a 50% anual raise eating up the subsidies then quit after 3-5 years then throw the problem at some other person last one being American peasants bailing it outand nobody in charge is held accountableand every major accident is just memoryholed and the majors drink bottled water in front of a tap to proof the pollution is finewhile obviously not taking the train back outwelcome to USA where 99% of the population never heard or cant remember this happend not long ago inbetween countless other major accidents>AMTRAK is bus-tier just like Chinese HSRkek stop bullshitting even China HSR Economy class is objectively margins above American Railway First Class, even if you dont consider the AMTRAK rumbling and shitty railway station services
>>529978674>Why can't we just do this?Because airplanes exist and they are superior to rail in most countries including US and EU
>>529984817>the Texas triangleAh yes, let me travel from one massive metropolitan area with shitty mass transit to another massive metropolitan area with slightly less shitty mass transit, but leave my car so that I'm confined to walking distance of the train station.
>>529984817HSR is only nice if there's a transit network at the other end. The seamless experience of leaving a turnstile and stepping onto the subway is why it's nice. Who cares if you have shinkansen level efficiency if you and your luggage have to deal with dogshit American busses at the other end.
>>529978674But how these investments will make Jews richer?
>>529979801late stage capitalism is the gayest fucking shit i've ever heard as though it's the only possible end state of the system. the term you mean is corporatism. the capitalist model is fine assuming you ban usury, browns from participating, and nuke all jews
>>529979801>You literally can't do that with late stage capitalismJust FWI a average American travels more miles per year using public transportation (including air travel) than average Chinese.So take your meme terms out of here.
>>529978870And all those temporary World's Fair buildings, too. Why not build an entire Roman concourse in 6 months and tear it down just because?
>>529981468>is that because niggers would flock to this sort of transportationThey don't flock to airlines (well they flock but no flight lists exist hehe).
>>529984100>>529984389People do need to travel, just not the worker class (at least on a daily basis. Less often is fine). Management, government, etc. Theres a lot of them in a country of 1.4 billion people.
>>529978674Because Israel needs the money!
>>529978674jews need interceptors goy
>>529978674Because it won't be 10$.Germany is much smaller than the US and our railway network is much more sophisticated and yet you will not see such prices.
>>529985342> public transportation (including air travel) well duh, the income difference between chinese and americans is still vast, of course americans an afford to fly more
>>529985076Doesn't help that the two big HSR projects in US were controlled by democrats. one on east coast and one on west coast and they are both under investigation now for rampant corruption. West coasthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_High-Speed_RailEast coasthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Regionaland Florida Sunshine corridorhttps://www.cflroads.com/project/451404-1technically US does have HSR, kind of it's more like a low speed HSR though
I will tell you why using Italy as an example. Where do you think niggers and dangerous immigrants mostly congregate, and what do you think they use to travel from one place to another? Train stations and the surrounding areas are war zones...
>>529984514>>529984582>>529984882Its social infrastructure, it doesn't need to make heavy profits, just pay its bills and debts. Indirectly its a benefit to the country regardless.
>>529985961This.The ability to relocate people is much more valuable than the ticket price.
>>529984191Average American flies domestically 1700 miles per year.Average Chinese rides 400 miles by HSR per year.Communism lost, they can't afford travel.
>>529983232>>529983589>Nah the video is real, but it's a private track between two points and the company that owns it just doesn't care.>. It's considered the worse track in the US No "but" That the point. That kind of rottting and abdoned industry track is still counted in the US railway figure of the meme blog the other guy >>529979072 cited while the other figure containes only public owned railway. Aka apples and fruitpies, And neither number actually depicts the real utilized public transport route length.Youre trying a bit too hard t pretending to be mentally retarded to miss the point to cope and act dismissive per your instructions, when its literally spelled out and spoonfed in the post, Sgt Tyrese.
>>529985928true I got off the train at the station in naples and you literally come out to an african colony.must be spooky there at night.
>>529985961There is operating at a slight loss and trillion in debt. Besides why fix a system that already works profitably? US airlines make a profit and move people faster>But I like trainsamtrack also operates at a very slight profit. So why spend trillions on another travel system that is slower than planes and less economical than current rail?
>>529978674Because you keep cutting taxes on the rich and spending what tax money you do collect on a bloated military that charges $1000 for soap dispensers.Thats why you cant have nice things. Not because of beaners sending $100 to Mexico every two weeks, not because of trannies paying doctors to mutilate their crotch, not because Shawniqua and Cletus buy coca cola and doritos with their food stamps. But because you dont make richfags pay their fair share and you misspend what money you do have on a military that gets more funding than the next TEN biggest militaries combined.
trains are used to go from a 'village' to the next large city or airport. no one uses trains for long distances, its very uncomfortable, expensive, wastes a ton of time and your exposed to way more risks and just nasty shitnormal people ask friends or family to drive them to the airport anyway.if you would design trains in a way that they were perfectly comfortable you wouldnt be able to afford them anymore. that being said its definitely something worth thinking about. i do believe we are thinking trains completely wrong we need to rethink the entire system from the ground uprail used to be extremely important for militaries in europe
>>529986147but they have more than twice the population?all of these stats by memeflag kikes are made to fool midwits.
>>529985730Average europoor like you travels 200 miles per year by HSRCompare to USA >>529986147Commies vanity toys like HSR are overpriced trash build for liberal fee-fees and propaganda, not to provide actual service.Europoors need to literally ban domestic flights competing with HSR otherwise HSR just dies.
Trains are communist, you aren't a commie scum, are you OP?And if you can't afford to travel then you have no right to leave your 15-minute smart city death camp, proletariat scum.
>>529981201Wow I didn't know we were the 2nd in the World
>>529986427>liberals trying to understand per capita stat>mission difficulty: impossible
>>529986584every stat is an idealization. anyone who doesn't understand that is a midwitt.statistically explanations are not causal. cope and seethe kikeflag.
The most epic Choose Your Own Adventure book; over 3000 miles of track where every ending is you getting killed by a nigger
>>529986208>Used rails don't count toward total track because reasonsOookay? They are being used thus are counted in miles of track in US. I mean if we want to count old laid track the US has 2-3x the current amount that just aren't used anymore since planes and roads replaced them.
>>529986333spotted the germans, of course you do not, your train are shit. This is not 4chan ragebaiting, it's just a thing you do not do well which goes against the stereotype of german efficiency which in other respect is true. Our frecciarossa are great and comfy and I can only suspect Chinese trains will be even better, as there are only han chinese around. The feeling of seeing your country rolling by is unmatched, unless you live in the european plains and there is nothing to see but flats everywhere; in the states it would be a wonderful experience.
>>529986147Obviously the quality of life is lower in china, no one would argue that. But comparing the average miles per person between two different countries with completely different geography and layouts is a little silly. The popular routes through China like Shanghai to Suzhou or Hangzhou are less than 100 miles, whereas in the US you have a small minority of people who constantly fly between all of our cities for business which raises the average. The distance between LA and NYC is 2,400 miles- it's not really comparable.The goal of the two infrastructure systems are labor mobility; to provide high-speed interconnects within each country and allow for people to become a liquid asset. The Chinese rail and US air travel networks both accomplish that goal fine and are marvels of modern engineering.>muh communismboomer moment
>>529986823Use to have four maps of growth and decline of US rail over time all I can find is one of all the tracks abandoned.
>>529978674These trains are primarily for industrial use. We have fuckloads of rail for industrial use as well.Chinamen aren't allowed to go on the faggy white girl vacations you're dreaming about. Queer!
>>529986437> Average europoor like you travels 200 miles per year by HSRalmost like european countries are a lot smaller than the US or China. Very little people commute between countries by train and for longer travels, we take the plane too since there's little inter-connectivity with HSR
>>529986919HSR makes sense for large closely packed cities. It's why they are all over Europe and China. Russia is more similar to US in geography and all the HSR are around Moscow
>>529978674>Why can't we just do this?you know why
>>529978674The issue Chinese have is that maintenance of this rail system is too expensive for the amount of passengers they carry. What they hoped for was that people living in tier 2 cities would get jobs in tier 1 cities and use trains to get there and so on but that has largely failed to materialise, another side of that coin are the "ghost cities" - people bought them as an investment to rent to these train commuters but those haven't materialised.As usual more reasonable policy was to build much less HSR and just expand ordinary rail network, but that doesn't look good during annual party conferences when you brag how many tonnes of steel have been produced and whatnot.
>>529978674Because wars for Israel cost money and you can't be spending it on useless shit like trainsHaving trains as an alternative would also hurt the car industry badly
>>529978674Because the land is already owned and the govt cant just take the land like your commie country.
>>529985961>Its social infrastructure, it doesn't need to make heavy profits,They are just acting retarded. No Amerimutt ever asked is the road to my home profitable for the city. Is my 30 minute trip to the next gasstation or Walmart, to buy bottled water because my shithole country cant drink waterr from the tap. profitable for the public transport agency.And the point of that played up retardation like all Hasbara is to distract from the prior bullshit they just fed you before, the Amerimutt manfuactured simple myth that Chinese HSR "just" arent profitable or "hopelessly" indebted throwing random bullshit numbers in your face beacuse their Amerimutt audience is conditioned never to question them anyways. Its literally just pearl clutching about peanuts invesmtents and dishonest framing of how every longerterm investements in the world works. Amerimutts spend 10times the dollar values on nonexistant tracks nevermind roads and most never hear about it. Nobody said America will collapse because Amazon ,Facebook and OpenAi didnt make immediate profit in the first month or year then screeches 10 years later how 10 yeasr ago Amazon wasnt profitable.Its state funded larp fo seethe and cope about something that worked out perfectly fine just like it did in Europe until Amerimutt banker class pushed for privatizations but nobody cares eitehr ways since Europes leaders mostly suck Washingtons dick so its fine if they start sucking and going all bankrupt now.
>>529985834the california HSR fail killed all other planning I think. Otherwise it would be great to make the Chicago - Philly route HSR, as well as down to Florida
>>529978674because in north america we have consultants and bureaucrats and politicians and lawyers and other do-nothings who make it their entire lifes work to prevent anything from ever getting built and siphoning massive profit in the process. but because they wear suit and tie we have to obey them.
>>529978674>You know how fucking based it would be to get on a train from New York to Colorado. Smoke some weed and come back home on the same day for 10$.do... do you realize how far apart NY and CO are from each other? I should have read your post you are beyond retarded
>>529985152>>529985183downtown / inner city areas of Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio are bigger than you think. Have you even been? And brightline can take you from the Orlando airport to Miami Beach / Downtown Miami, which is also pretty urban
>>529983232>This is AI, this track is easily replaced and routine track work takes place on a regular basis.It was quite real, the train line was eventually rebuilt. That locomotive is pulling two cargo wagons at 5 mph, the full video is on youtube. IIRC this train line was in Ohio. American railroads are clapped out and worn down, not just the rails but also the rolling stock, which was the reason for the Ohio dioxine fire disaster in Palestine, Ohio. Same goes for american bridges and american dams. It was built 70-100 years ago with the expectation that it would get replaced in 30-40 years, but Aemrica ran out of money and decided to postpone the replacement, and then America ran out of money again and decided to postpone the maintenance, and now this ancient infrastructure is literally rusting and rotting away until it fails.
>>529987219>HSR makes sense for large closely packed citiesNo it doesn't. Only two HSR lines in the entire world make a profit. Tokyo-Oaska and Paris-Lyon. All other lines hemorrhage money. The reason china keeps spamming HSR online is they have no domestic aeroplane production and are unable to build commercial planes. I can fly to anywhere in Europe for £25 including all fees and taxes. Trains became obselete when the aeroplane was invented.
>>529986919>The goal of the two infrastructure systems are labor mobilityHSR isn't for commuting. 1 hr HSR ride two ways is about median daily salary in China. This is not economically feasible.
>>529987720>Its state funded larp fo seethe and cope about something that worked out perfectly fine just like it did in Europe> it did in Europe>>529986437
>>529978674>New York to ChicagoEven if that train went 300 miles an hour It would take hours to get there. You would not have any time to do anything of substance before you had to go back. Also>Degenerate wants to smoke weed in public
>>529978674We already have rails. They're slower than planes so people fly. Because of this, freight is given priority on lines, further slowing down passenger trains. The flip side of this, however, is the US has the best freight network in the world. The reason we are able to cheaply send anything anywhere is because of our train system. You would see the price of consumer goods rise and time it takes to ship things as well, if you tried to give line priority back to passenger trains, and all for a mode of transportation that's objectively worse than flying anyways.
>>529981936>Smoking carWhat is this 1950?
>>529978674>>529979202>>529979570>>529979801When will you creatures shut the fuck up and stop acting so uppity?
dude we aren't even gonna have functional roads in 10 years if you can even say we do now
>>529983288Not really. I mean, it’s safer than American because they have no nigs but it’s filled with thieves and assaults are common.
We need to rebuild all our dams and bridges from the 30s first and we can't even do that
>>529978674It would hurt the automotive industry :)
>>529978674Israel needs that money for bombs you antisemite
>>529978674>Whyshitskins, that answer for why any reasonable thing can't happen, is shitskins.>Highspeed railJust makes it easier for them to migrate around and steal shit. It's why the 'nice parts of town' don't have sidewalks, or even bike friendly lanes. It makes it too easy for them to wander from their ghetto and get up to criminality.Even ignoring that, no one would want to use it, because it would be filled with shitskins. No one wants to get randomly knifed by a subhuman. And finally, no one wants to pay for something they can't realistically use, and these highspeed rail fever dreams would be incredibly expensive.
the train doesn't stop at my house. even if they increased the number of train stations by 1000x it still wouldn't stop at my house, and I wouldn't even want it to since trains are noisy. if I want to ride a train I have to drive to a station, find somewhere to park my car, ride the train, and then find another car to drive to my real destination because the train probably doesn't stop there either. what the fuck good does a train do me then? if you think you have a use for a fast train then build it without my money, but you will never see these train boondoggles without immense public spending because they will never be profitable.
>>529981936>niggers follow rulesdumbass
>>529990084Trains aren't for rural retards, sorry
>>529978674No need. US has rivers. Boatting is cheeper. Drink my cum, dumb-dumb.
>>529978674>Why can't we just do this?jews
>>529990425Then hive cities can pay for it out of their local tax base. Oh wait, the majority of their local tax base are people who commute into the city, and wouldn't be able to use the train either. The only ones who COULD use the train, and might want to, are poor fags who don't contribute enough to cover their gibmedats programs, let alone the enormous expense of a new rail network.Even when the program bothers to charge a reasonable fee, the average poor fag just jumps the turnstile and refuses to pay.
>>529981882kekked & checked
>>529978674Read of on the history of the interstate project and why it was a massive headache for everyone. China doesn't have things like "states rights" and they don't have things like "state funding" as well as federal funding. It's all federal funding. China is basically one big corporationWhen America is a dead beat dad and absent mother corralling like 1000 corporations.
>>529983584300km is 186 miles. It wouldn't even get you out of New York let alone to Colorado.
>2020>china
>>529981201We don’t like being told when and where we can go, unlike the average bug or eurocuck. It’s also not feasible for a country the size of the US. Trains are also old as fuck, what are you going to come up with next? Zeppelins? Super sailboats? Retards.
>>529978674>Why can't we just do this?The US did do that. We were the first to do that. >Mutts don't even know their own country's history.
Militarily speaking it's more of a liability. Unless you can use it to transport tanks and planes and other stuff then it isn't worth it The only reason why the interstate project got done is because Eisenhower saw how effective the Autobahn was for moving armored divisions very quickly in Germany. Convince the military a hsr is something they can use then maybe.
>>529981882Finally a good post
>>529978674more trains would help cull the h1bs
>>529981936>Smoking carZoomers haven't even been alive long enough to know that that used to be a thing, lmao.
>>529992471>culling jeetsThis is the best argument for high speed rail I've even seen.
>>529989436I'll take your word for it with Mexico City. I thought the Thais ran a pretty tight ship with MRT and BTS.
>>529978674Because people actually own land here and eminent domain can only go so far.
>>529978674How fucking retarded are you?
>>529978674the chinese system is kind of meh, following an old strategy of linking big cities with "high speed" trainsthe UK or Japanese system (adopted in the last few decades in Germany too, from what I gather) is much better, with reasonably high speed trains (150-200kmh) linking all the stations
>>529994831Chinese government is more restricted in its ability to enact eminent domain. That's why the "nail houses" exist, because in that area, the Chinese landowner has more property rights.Eminent domain should make it easier for the US to make HSR than China. The problem is graft and corruption at every level of infrastructure projects, since your profit margin is way higher when you're just writing proposals and studies than when you have to actually construct anything. And usually those guys are unionized, so they have their own shakedown. China can just tell the middlemen to fuck off.
>>529995410>Chinese government is more restricted in its ability to enact eminent domain. That's why the "nail houses" existNo they're not, nail houses can be forced to sell. The holdouts however need to have their lease bought out and that can be prohibitively expensive for the provincial government so if after back and forth the occupant doesn't reach a compromise the governmwnt/developer finds acceptable they'll just say fuck it and build around, over, through you. Nail houses are basically unlivable and unsellable as a result. When the lease expires they will demolish it and pave over.
>>529984389It is when there's a billion people. China is like India, you got the super poor that make up 80% of the population, the 19% who are middle class, and the 1% who are rich as fuck but wouldn't ride a train. 19% of one billion is 190,000,000 people who CAN afford it.
>>529978674Passenger rail is retarded in 2026. Motherfucker we have planes.
>>529978674Here's a map of US rail. You can take a train from New York to Colorado.
>>529997011> Passenger rail is retarded in 2026. Motherfucker we have planes.> instantly replaces almost 90% of short-haul flights everywhere its introduced
>>529979193This has been the case since 2005 at least. Their first Maglev lime had almost no riders because it connected an industrial part of the city to the airport.China builds shit just to build it. They have to keep their population busy so they don’t revolt.
>>529983725Like that somehow makes it better?FFS man.
>>529980030Maybe in Texas you could get away with that but in blue states they would make sure lots and lots of niggers can ride for next to nothing. Or they would just not make them pay
>>529978674Because powerful interest groups want you to pay for airline fuel and gasoline. There's more to it, but that's the long and short of it.
>>529980202> China has tons of niggersYou’re the dumbest man alive
>>529978674>Why can't we just do this?israel needs the money
>>529997011Planes are a complete waste of money on anything but transcontinental flights.
>>529980202>China has tons of niggersBut they have the will to deal with the nigger behavior.
>>529978674>whyniggers
>>529981882Incredible post
>>529988553> HSR isn't for commuting. 1 hr HSR ride two ways is about median daily salary in China. This is not economically feasibleIts around 300 dollars for a monthly pass. This is quite feasible for higher income wagies, for example commuting to bejing where they save much much more on the very high housing costs they'd have to otherwise pay
>>529978674The US used to have an extensive railway network but they dug them all up to build roads
>>529997241too slow to be practicalyou would need to factor in hotels or sleeper cars because its a multi-day trip
>>529986208Crazy hippies sabotage BNSF railroad signaling equipment here. One major derailment and fire a few years ago.
>>529978674Would be amazing to see black people in Colorado and Utah
>>529988471>Trains became obselete when the aeroplane was inventedBong islander cope bc their loading gauge ain’t compatible with the rest of Europe.
>>529978674Kikes and wops will embezzle the funds for the railway project and niggers will make public transport a living Hell.
>>529978674WOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOTRAIN FROM NEW YORK IS COMING IN>TSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS>*doors open*IT'S NIGGERS!!!!!!!
>>529978674>Why can't we just do this?Because Israel needs the money more.Are you antisemitic, anon? God said they're his favorite people and it's your obligation and privilege to serve them.
>>529979193Stop lying you stupid kike.
>>529990425Meanwhile even rural retards in your cunt have trains
>>529998767What do you think? Everything is flatland?
>>529978674I am not sure which train runs from NYC to Colorado. But the train to Chicago followed by the Southwest Chief got me to Santa Fe NM. Actually I think there was a stop in the state of Colorado before that, but near the Kansas border, not the cities on the Front Range. Surely there's one that goes to Denver.
>>529999058This. I don't get why trainfags want to make it easier for niggers to access whites.
>>529999467what do you think, the trains are slow because they have to climb steep mountains?
>>529978674>Why can't we just do this?>Niggers>Jews.
>>529978674trains and buses in north america are just nigger redistribution networks, the less public transportation the better
>>529999080Because we already did it and you can book a ticket today.
I prefer diversity and vibrancy to infrastructure
>>529999812Greyhound buses are. Amtrak trains are not, and there were surprisingly many Amish, who I guess don't like to fly.
>>529999718The part of the trip entering New Mexico was through a narrow and winding canyon the road did not try to follow. The train went about 15mph. Power poles, still apparently functional, had the very old glass insulators on them below the wires. Colorful glass. And some of the poles were blown or fallen over and the wires stretched a bit, but still in use, because it would have been very hard to get a crew and equipment out there to fix it up right I guess. Or maybe it was just deemed more scenic to make it look like it was untouched since the 1800's.
>>530000468ok so the train can slow down through the canyon and still be fast for 80-90% of the rest of the trip then
>>530000468Here, watch this from 5:53:00 going thru Apache Canyon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1c2xe36AzU&t=43s
>>529999926Gosh, euphemistic language skills are sick, def, based, wicked and other things and we'd miss so many chances at miscommunication if we sent the savages to Africa.After all, when one "only gets paid $15/hour to stand at a register and scan food items they don't even touch and point at a credit card machine they don't need to understand, so they should steal and cheat," the world of Africa is a breeze and a dream.
>>529984191>And their rail system is actually profitable these daysImmaterial.The gains to National GDP, by virtue of Beijing subsidizing this HSR system are almost immeasurable. (many multiples more).It's pointless to appeal to retards who cannot or refuse to grasp both the NEED and Net BENEFIT (to both PRIVATE industry and Society) of these such Public Utilities.
>>529978674>NYC to Colorado for $10 both ways in one day You Indians really are dumb as fuck
>>529978674>why can’t we just do this?Niggers and jeets
>>529978674>Why can't we just do this?Niggers.
>>530002899>>530002972that's easy to solve, just buy a first class ticketwhere I live, I bought a first class ticket and I was alone in a whole coach, sparkling clean, working wall plugs (for laptop) etc.meanwhile in second class was chock full with gypsies were eating, farting, and killing each other
When I was 19 I took a train ride across the US and it was an unforgettable experience, the Amtrack train had a car with a glass roof, the scenery was spectacular in places, and I met some unforgettable characters. My horizons were widened and I learned a lot as a young man about people and my country coming from a small town. Air travel is just a pain in the ass humiliation ritual dealing with TSA and cramped seats, dealing with fat fucks who literally sweat on you and stink, the constant threat of a crash, sure it's faster but I avoid it as much as I can. Picrel, this guy looks exactly like the last fatso who sat next to me, he tried to put his arms forward and his back fat popped out like wings and my whole side was drenched in his sweat. Plus they always wear shorts and tshirt so their skin is pressing against you the whole time. God help you if they take through shoes off.
>>530000759Yes the guy controlling the train can adjust its speed.
>>530003747based panorama train enjoyerI love Amtrak and MBTA
>>529979193So why can't we do better?
>>530003743First class on Amtrak is quite expensive. But it gets you the good onboard dining, which is otherwise an expensive add (like $40 for a dinner) and what else you can buy on the train is minimal and also overpriced, and they never give you time at stops to get off and buy food. We stopped for a couple hours for some reason in Kansas City, but it was around midnight and the dining in the train station was closed, so they didn't mind. The good thing is you can bring as much food as you want on the train, free luggage is virtually unlimited and can include food even cooked food. You could smuggle a hot plate or small air fryer on, not sure if it's formally allowed or not.
>>530004034We run the passenger trains over tracks that are primarily for freight. So it's not high speed, not super smooth. Maybe China's tracks are decaying because they run freight over tracks that was supposed to be primarily luxe passenger trains. Some freight trains are very heavy.
>>529978674Trains are a violation of the American individualist philosophy and way of life
>>530003885I also met a hugely pregnant lady and we snuck off to play Yachtzee in an empty car (she kicked my butt) and later I hung out with an old Irish professor who was slowly getting drunk from a bottle he smuggled on the train, he was full of whiskey and wisdom.
>>529984367Lol, nothing is solved here. It's getting worse with conductors being murdered and shit.
