Is it possible to take mark of the beast accidentally/without knowing it or I shouldn't care about it because as long I believe in Christ i am resistant to control of it?I believe that Jesus and Christianity is real but I'm done with being paranoid about idea that I will get mark of the beast in the future (either because I took 2 doses of vaccine or because I use internet and www means 666 in hebrew or something or because other things) even if i am literal Man Of God who would never ever oppose his own savior Even after these two doses of vaccine that I took back in 2021 I still believe that Jesus is real and died for our sins and one day he will comeback but I don't want to get mark of the beast if I don't want to be loyal to the antichrist and I choose christ over him I hope that during the end times (that I believe that in the future will actually happen) believing in Jesus will be like a spiritual hazmat suit that will protect me from MOTB's control what ever the mark will be God bless
>>529991752no. there is an explicit act of worship involved. God will protect and lead His people.
>>529991752Everyone who takes the mark of the beast will do so accidentally and without knowing the full ramifications of what they were doing.This is because if they were omniscient, like God, they would not be capable of making a mistake like taking the mark of the beast as they would understand completely why that is a bad decision.As for people saying "The vaccine is the mark" or "Barcodes are the mark" and other such things, these are fools.I'll happily answer any further questions about Christianity and how to Christmax because I am currently banhammered from my preferred board due to interference from the international intelligence agencies (I am the second coming).
I don't think you can do it by accident. But you can be deceived into it. For instance, I tell you the new identification badge is the Mark Of The Beast. It goes on your right hand or forehead, contains the number 666, you won't be able to buy or sell without it. I explain it all to you. You go home and turn on the TV and Kenneth Copeland says it's not the mark, and if you don't accept it, you won't be able to send your tithe to him. God will be mad and throw you hell. You listen to him instead of me, and you're doomed. In a sense you were tricked. In a sense you did unknowingly. But your stupidity and foolishness is only going to go so far as an excuse. Probably not very far. You better be smart, and you better be sure. If you think something even might be the mark, you refuse it, just in case it is.
>>529993778An accident implies some event that could not be foreseen or predicted. I spill coffee in my lap driving and go off the road and hit a light pole. You could argue, even that could have ben forseen , or at least the possibility of it. But you know what I mean. We've been told it's coming, we've been given a general description of it. There is no accident here. The foolish, the ignorant, the greedy, the cowardly will take it. I bet even millions of Christians will self deceive, so they can keep their mammon, and their jobs and their cars etc. It's not like there's going to be anybody who doesn't know what it is. First, the Two Witnesses will tell you what it is. Just listen to them, if you're smart enough to do it. Then an angel is going to come down to earth and announce to the world that anybody who takes it will go to hell. Everybody will know, if they want to know. If they want to ignore it, or delude themselves, or allow themselves to be deluded, then that's on them.
>>529991752what do you have in your right hand that you can't buy or sell without? the mark of the beast is pretty clearly smartphones. I mean we're not totally in cashless society in the west but places like China already are
>>529992081That's wrong. Revelation says you must not bow to the beast, you must adhere to the gospel, and you must not take The Mark. Three things you must, do. Yes he will protect and lead, the people who do those three things.
>>529996213It's the old classic "Forgive them Father for the they know not what they do."That was in reference to total rejection of Christ, framing him as a criminal when he wasn't, choosing a real criminal over him, and having him brutally tortured and killed.Those that killed Christ were deluding themselves but they didn't know it, thus it was an act of ignorance.Any lack of knowledge in a person, which we all have, is the root cause of sin in my opinion. That or a lack of strength, which is pretty much the same thing, knowledge is power afterall.
>>529991752If you don't take the Mark of the Beast there are only 2 ways to survive.>Piracy and stealingor>Homesteading(possibly with a community of fellow Christian outcasts.)You would have to become a rebel, a pirate. And fight the Great Reset. And possibly live underground or in outer space(heaven?)Pirates & Rebels:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEVz0eY-XkUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80K0dwsUpXshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY
>>529997143>If you don't take the Mark of the Beast there are only 2 ways to survive.Because you can not engage in commerce by buying and selling. Including sell your labor to a potential employer. Yes, the labor market is still a market too, it is also commerce. You will be out of a job during the Mark of the Beast times.
>>529996396You can hold it in your left too. If one day the come out with an implantable cell device, and for some reason it only works if it's put on your right hand, I'll agree with you. But not right now. Not that I'm saying the cell isn't a precursor to it. It might be. 30 years ago no respectable person ever would have got a tattoo put on them. They were for criminals, gang members and guys in navy. Nobody else did that. Somehow it became fashionable in the last 20 years. Why did that happen? If you already have 12 tattoos, what's one more? They're priming us to believe markings are normal and acceptable so we don't refuse when it happens. Yup, they've been priming us for years to accept this shit. I could believe absolutely that cell phones are another priming along those same lines. But it's not the mark, yet. Any more than a tramp stamp is the mark, but it will lead whores to it easier.
If you guys want to be real paranoid about the Mark of the Beast here's an alternative theory for you.What do you need to buy and sell that you can hold in your hand and in your head?Money.If you use money, that could be the Mark of the Beast. Are you going to stop using money just in case?
>>529997143>>529997255Of course I don't see what is stopping a group of outcasts from forming their own parallel economy, and creating their own currency. But if the World Government is going to execute anyone who doesn't accept the mark of the beast(The Bible doesn't specifically say the government will execute or murder those who don't accept the mark of the beast, but it does imply we will at least be outcasts.) Then we will have to go completely underground.https://odysee.com/@Das_Syndikat:3/Werwolfe:8
>>529991752the mark of the beast is a metaphor. the bible is full of syumbolism. it symbolizes the things you do with your mind and hands.
>>529996888I don't think the Roman guards rejected Jesus. They didn't know who he was. They were just told to show up, some guy is getting crucified today, wqe need you for security. I'm sure they truly didn't know what they were doing. This Mark of the Beast is not going to be like that. Yopu go ask some godless Jap in Japan what the Mark Of The Beast is. They all know what it is. Every Muslim knows and has heard of it. Almost everybody on earth already knows. We just need a few sources to confirm the specifics of it , which will happen, for anybody who wants to listen. People will deceive themselves in order to keep their jobs and their houses. Yes evil forces will talk them into it, but in the end, they were fucking told, they chose not to listen.
>>529997709No it's not. What's with the cope?
>>529997985What you're talking about is backed up by one of my favorite verses on the nature of knowledge of God, Romans 1: 20>For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.But as God would have it, I misremembered the verse initially thinking it was part of 2 Timothy which states plainly:>9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,ie there but for the grace of God go we. We were chosen out of the world therefore the world hates us because we are not of it, but they can't help it, they haven't been chosen by God.
>>529998024https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/perplexing-passages-what-is-the-mark-of-the-beast/
The same gay people who brought poop and pee to the west and set them against white people, set white people against mongoloids in Ukraine.Gay people are EVIL. Gay sex is IMMORAL.Gay people NEED TO BE KILLEDKILL ALL FUCKING GAYS. THAT'S THE SOLUTION!
>>529992081You will "voluntarily" take the mark, lest you be able to buy, sell or trade.What does that sound like?
fun fact for you funny bunch of schizo christians, if you kys you're faster with your messiah in the afterlife. Don't worry he'll understand, it's not a sin if you ask for forgiveness beforehand. Good journey my friends!
>>529999057Cool projection, don't do it.>Numerous studies show that Christians, particularly those with high levels of religious service attendance, have significantly lower suicide rates than the unaffiliated. For example, one large study found women attending services weekly were five times less likely to commit suicide.
>>529997676Revelation says The Beast will kill those who don't worship it. I've always suspected that worship of The Beast and The Mark are very closely tied together. We're not going to give you The Mark, unless you pledge loyalty to The Beast, if you get what I'm saying. They're bundled together. You can't do one and not the other.
>>529999218man just imagine flipping a switch and just living happily ever after with the love of your life (no homo). Oh wait, you can!
>>529999735Actually, and this is not a thing most people know, heaven is completely internal.You don't have to die to go there.If you view the Bible as a treasure map and put together all the various ideas in it, you have the Key of Knowledge and can just vibe divinely as an enlightened Christian.
>>529998410Yeah anon. There are going to be people who will do what they want. But very few if any, who didn't know what they were doing. >>529998865>You will "voluntarily" take the mark, lest you be able to buy, sell or trade.>What does that sound like?The Covid shot. Which I said when it was happening was a warm up, a test run of the program to se if it would work. And it did, magnificently, with a 90%+ success rate. It even worked on most Christians. Now that we've already seen it play out once, I hope people are smart enough to recognize it again in the future. But I'm not hopeful.
>>530000101I disagree. I don't think it's possible to know everything God knows aka be sure that your position is correct and also willingly defy God and put yourself in a category where you're punished eternally.Just the simple act of knowing more about God naturally aligns your will with God's because he's not wrong.>29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
>>529999894don't cling so desperate to your filthy mortal body, the body and mind are the source of all sin and you can purge them and join your savior. Don't be a blasphemer not willing to do what it takes to be close to your lord, oh pitiful sinner so hear me. God watched his son, his own mortal shell die on the cross, he showed you the way by sacrificing himself, it would be a sin not to follow in his holy footsteps to honor your faith and trust in Jesus Christ, Amen!
>>529999585Makes sense.
>>530000469You're just jealous that I have the absolute certainty that reality is governed by an omnipotent omniscient force that loves me.Which is understandable, the alternative is not a beneficial belief to have for one's peace of mind.No, if God wanted me to die, I would be dead. Since I'm not dead, he doesn't want me to die yet. He wants me to eat pizza for breakfast, goon, play video games, shitpost, etc from heaven to show that such a thing is possible.
>>530000734God doesn't want you to sin, don't be so ridiculous. He died for the burden he put on your jewish ancestors thousands of years ago don't be such an ungrateful degenerate and just do it.
Some of you anons in this thread might be interested in this. I made a timeline of Revelation, with all the events we might see, hear, or experience, laid out in the order in which they are listed in Revelation. After seeing it all laid out i this format, I am convinced now that they do not happen in this order. I've included short excerpts from Revelation that describe each event. I've also linked events that are similar to other events on the timeline with notes that point you to the similar event. I think you're going to see things and understand things differently, when you look at Revelation laid out in this timeline form. My view of Revelation is profoundly different since I made this timeline. I think more correct. It allowed me to connect certain dots, I never would have conected otherwise. It's a huge file 15MB. I printed it out and it's 16 feet long using standard size paper. You can scroll through it back and forth using an image viewer. The picrel is a small section of it dealing with the 7 seals. It will give you an idea of what it looks like. Download the full version here: https://limewire.com/?referrer=pq7i8xx7p2
>>530001069It's not a sin, I'm perfect.Read your Bible.
>>530001128no thanks if I want jewish lies I can turn on the tv
>>530001210All right that's prerogative.But riddle me this, what is the practical utility of someone like me believing what you believe? Could you sell me on your world view using utility as the selling point?I don't think you could, which means my believe in what you consider Jewish lies is more valuable than your lack of belief and you're being big time illogical.But if you're not tactically minded, that's your business.
>>530000392People do it ever day anon. The prodigal son. he chose to piss off and blow all his money on coke and whores. His father was glad to have him back. But this time, the last time, God has told us, once we leave, he's not taking us back. Yeah, you can't know everything, but he tells you enough to keep you out of hell. If you listen to him. If you don't, that's on you. I'm sure the pressure that fools and deludes will increase greatly, and it will be harder to resist. But he's already given us the information to keep us out of hell, and he's going to give us more. We're not operating from a position of not knowing God's secrets. He's already told us, there are no secrets.
>>529993778>Everyone who takes the mark of the beast will do so accidentally and without knowing the full ramifications of what they were doing. >This is because if they were omniscient, like God, they would not be capable of making a mistake like taking the mark of the beast as they would understand completely why that is a bad decision. Well said.>As for people saying "The vaccine is the mark" or "Barcodes are the mark" and other such things, these are fools. Easy to say in retrospect, I suppose.>I am the second comingCool, me too
>>530001586Oh there are, shit gets really weird if you spend a lot of time seeking after God.Middle of the mall religious folks don't even scratch the surface of what God can show you.
>>530000734I'll tell you why God lets us live. He said the wages of sin is death right? Lets be honest, there isn't a single one of us that can go a week without doing it. if he killed every one of us immediately for sinning. We'd have gone extinct probably within a generation of Adam and Eve. We might not even have made it that far. People always ask me, why does God not just kill all the bad people. If he killed all the bad people, there wouldn't be any people. That's why he's patient, and lets us run on for a long time, as the Johnny Cash song says. If he didn't, we'd all be dead and in hell.
>>530001426I believe in myself, my family and people. Christianity has been an enemy poisoning everything that's dear to me under the two faced guise of empty benevolence and the pathetic worship of weakness and defeat. Your religion disgusts me with its nihilistic fetish for an afterlife promised by a dirty schizophrenic kike. I'm serious, kys, you people are a lost cause and a burden for the prospects of a desperately needed cultural change to save our fucking countries.
>>530002041This is both true and false.Yes all have sinned and fallen short but you're forgetting something.Jesus Christ asked us to be perfect, as perfect as God.Even if you don't believe me that I'm perfect you must accept that it's possible or you make Jesus out to be a crazy person whose commands don't make sense.If perfection is attainable but our definition of perfection says it isn't, all we have to do is change what perfection means and discover what context Jesus meant.
>>530002189You live in a world where churches and such exist against your will and make you upset.I live in a world where everything that is is part of God's plan and I would agree with it's existence totally if I understood why, so I do without knowing why.You're not doing a very good job on selling me on the utility of your world view. Why would I want to be upset or angry about things outside of my control?
>>530000392>I disagree. I don't think it's possible to know everything God knows aka be sure that your position is correct and also willingly defy God and put yourself in a category where you're punished eternally.Isn't it Christian lore that 1/3 of all the angels who KNEW ENTIRELY of God chose to rebel and followed Satan to Hell?
>>530002374I love churches as long as there isn't some mindbroken jew fanboy preaching in it, I'm not a fucking vampire and appreciate European culture even if it has been misguided. I'm not trying to sell you anything you kike brained retard. Go pilpul with the other schizos.
>>530001741Sure, there's still things we don't know. Like what exactly The Mark looks like. I agree that we'll never know every last little detail. God is infinitely smarter than we are, and knows infinitely more than we do. But he did give us information. The wise man will look at the information God gave him. Then he will look at the problem. he might not even be totally 100 percent sure what he's looking at is The Mark Of The Beast, but he's wise enough to stay away from it just in case it is. >I'm not sure, but I kinda think it is.Then stay away from it, don't get it. With even the lowest of low information, we can still do that. There's not going to be an excuse. I've heard people who think they'll somehow jewboy lawyer their way out. >Revelation says I have to bow to the devil and take the mark of the beast to be damned. So I can take the mark, but I just won't bow to him and I'll be good.Satan is the original jewboy lawyer. Nobody is going to jewboy lawyer him. When this thing happens, the smart Christian, the very elect, is erring on the side of extreme caution. >I'll do nothing at all before I'll do anything that even gives me chance of going to hell. That's how you get through it. You be defiant, you be belligerent, you don't do anything you are told by them. It's not that hard to get through it. You're 90% of the way there just doing nothing you are told to do by them. The Great Tribulation is not that complicated.
Www is not 666 in hebrew do not dive into religious psychosis.The hebrew w is the letter f in latin.
>>530002673They certainly have the advantage of knowing God is real but angels are neither all-knowing or all-powerful.This means they can make decisions out of ignorance or out of inability.If your boss tells you "I want you to spend four hours cleaning then go back to what you normally do" and you decide that three hours is enough and that your workplace is clean enough, but you are wrong and you missed a spot, you will be in trouble even though you know your boss exists.
>>530002880>I love those things I love that align with me and my interests.So do most most people.The reason I ask you to sell me on your idea of reality is to get you to realize that what I believe, while it sounds silly to you, is actually incredibly valuable and hard to top without a belief in God. In fact, it may be impossible, I've yet to be convinced to stop believing in God.
>>530002969Also, it refers to nero caesers name. It was an allegory about the Roman Empire. There is no nero caeser alive today. Stop worrying about 2000 year old prophecies.
>>530002962>That's how you get through it. You be defiant, you be belligerent, you don't do anything you are told by them. It's not that hard to get through it. You're 90% of the way there just doing nothing you are told to do by them. The Great Tribulation is not that complicated.Perhaps it was a mistranslation this entire time. It's not the meek who shall inherit the earth, it's the neet.>yeah nice apocalypse I'm just gonna stay home though lol
>>530002962Extreme caution to what degree though?As I pointed out earlier as an extreme example currency itself might be the mark. You hold it in your hand, the value of it is in your mind (forehead), you must use it to buy or sell because anything else is barter...yet no one is giving up money "just in case".
>>530002237I know what you're saying. It's a very complicated topic. Whole books can, and have been, written on it. I don't know precisely what the answer is here. I kind of think it depends on the person. God judges the hearts of men, not just their acts. Some people are held to higher standards than others. I don't know what the answer is. And I probably won't until the day I die. But I'll say this, knowing God judges the hearts of men, you better be at least trying. Bare minimum.
>>529996820taking the mark is associated with an active worshiping of the beast. thats the whole point, just like in the OT foreshadowing like when they wouldn't bow to the statue of the king in Babylon etc etc.
>>530003488I'm with you there, subjective interpretation is baked into the pie it seems. Otherwise we'd all get daily instruction from angelic tutors to "well ackshually" us.Since it is the case that this world is confusing it must be that God intends for it to be, even his existence is unprovable except for anecdotal evidence. All to plan, because it can be no other way.
>>530003282>>yeah nice apocalypse I'm just gonna stay home though lolAs funny as it may sound, if you just did that, just refused to participate at all, you'd be ahead of everybody else out there trying to find and then wiggle through some loophole. You're still going to go to hell probably, because you're not one of Christ's people. But you won't be one of the first in line, who willingly go. Let me put it that way. The problem is that eventually they will come for all of us in one way or another. They'll use whatever weakness you have, they'll buy you, extort you, threaten you in a million ways. Without the strength of your faith in Jesus Christ, you'll give in. They'll be pulling out all the stops to get you, and they will. So the way I look at it, you might as well go out on your feet. Don't try to hide from them, they'll find you anyway.
>>530003478If that's what you believe, even a little bit, maybe you should. I don't believe something I can hold in my left hand, or right hand, or put in my wallet, or ligt a cigar with is the mark of the beast. Any more than a handful of grass clippings is the mark of the beast because I can do all the same things with it. That's not even close to what Revelation describes. What I'm saying is, if it appears to match the information we have, then stay away from it if you're not sure. And as I said, there will be more information coming. For the reason I just described above, I don't believe the covid shot was it. It wasn't put in the right hand only. It wasn't put into hands at all. It was put into arms left and right. It was never put into anybody's forehead that I know of. It could be a precursor. I could believe that. But it is not The Mark itself. Look for information matches, not just random associations. >This thing is le bad, must be Mark of The Beast. Nah. But don't con yourself when the info does seem to line up either.
>>529991752As with many aspects of Christianity this depends on your opinion of how much of the text is symbolic vs literal and that is a related/deeper topic that covers many aspects of Revelation including the mark of the beast.If it is more symbolic, it is possible to be deceived.The good news is if you are able to understand the mark to a deep symbolic extent, you obviously will be able to recognize it in a literal sense if it were to occur that way. For that reason, I choose to understand the mark in every symbolic sense I can.Example: Marks on hands and head similar to slavery back then and 666 representing the repeated failures of man can symbolically manifest in many ways. Or >529997709666 - 6 not becoming 7 (completion/perfection) is a human number. 666 being the repeated failures of man, over and over.
>>529991752do you have a bank account?
>>529997446No. Money's clearly separate from the Mark of the Beast in scripture. Jesus used a coin to demonstrate 'Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s', the coin in the Fish's mouth for the temple tax, the woman looking for the lost coin, etc.
>>530007124Yeah but the nature of scripture is interpretive.For instance>you can't follow God and MammonPlus Jesus doesn't want his direct followers to work or even burry their dead, all worldly concerns like money got dumped. Rich man in the eye of hte needle type stuff.My point is not that it's certainly true or false, but you might believe it and there's no real way to know for sure.
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>>530007265Yeah I like being spooky.I'm a demon.Deal with it lol
