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FELLOW GOYIM, THE BILLIONAIRES NEED AI TO SUCCEED OR THE COUNTRY WILL GO BANKRUPT!
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>>530007796
has he explained how AI and robots will solve the national debt?
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>>530007796
remember elon musk tripfags under the name lucifer here
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>>530007796

That nigger needs to fuck off back to Africa and get devoured by a rabid pack of wild dogs.
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>>530008020
They’re gonna go to the moon and mine gold or some shit. People actually believe this btw.
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>>530007796
National debt goes away if we change governments btw
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One day Elon is gonna ask the american public to voluntarily donate (not invest) funds to their free choice of Tesla, SpaceX or XAi to prevent a recession.
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>>530008020
yes. we let all the humans die, and replace them with ai robot slave workers who can't revolt or vote! duh
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>>530007796
>>530008020
I mean, you don't want to have kids and dont want foreign workers, so what exactly is supposed to keep the welfare systems from collapsing when the population crisis reaches full steam? there aren't going to be enough young workers to hold the welfare systems and pay off the debt if you just do nothing
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okay, that's cool
but i'm still gonna continue to buy REAL things, such as silver, gold, HDD's and canned food.
i'm not gonna pay for software or services or other intangible things, those things are supposed to be free.
so you can make AI if you want but i'm not paying for it. also i'm gonna block all of your ads.
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nooo i dont want to be a cyborg noooooo
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>>530007796
We need to lay off everyone.
This is important, because if we don't set up an autonomous workforce and cleanse the plebs (you) we'll go down with the ship.
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>>530007796
>THE COUNTRY WILL GO BANKRUPT!
the moment the goyim wake up and tax incomes over a million year at 100% your country is saved. never believe the lies of the rich. you don't need more than a million dollars a year and less than 5% of us do. Elon would get taxed so hard on his income but always will have his gigantic pile of money. never believe billionaire lies.
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>>530007796
Retarded gamble since China will easily undercut us.
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>>530007796
Yep, definitely no way to solve the debt crisis. I can't think of anything at all that would help. Oh well, better give Elon billions more of taxpayer money to attempt making robots that only rich people can afford.
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>>530007796
better get a REAL DOGE dept going then
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>>530007796
AI tech already failed. And I hope Musk dies soon.
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>>530008582
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we could also just stop pissing money away on israel. then we would have even more money for ai r&d.
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>>530007796
>we need to pretend to be productive at your expense
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>>530007796

Ironic considering AI hasn’t turned a profit yet, which is astonishing considering the trillions invested

I honestly have no idea how much longer the circular investment cycle can continue considering the unprofitability of AI, but it will be the mother of all bursts if the bubble finally gives
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Is AI and robots going to replace the govt because that gaggle of polyester mannequins is bankrupting the country. They have no idea where the money goes but you must send it out. Does AI have a solution for idiotic bureaucracy. If it doesn't what use is it.
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>>530007796
That wallet looks like my mom's vagina. Lmao.
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>>530007796
Hahahah. Debt.
Means absolutely nothing.
Especially government debt.
Again Elon knows that fear of the boogeyman makes the midwits shit their panties.
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>>530008020
They'll travel back in time to kill Ronald Reagan.
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>>530007796
And how exactly will AI solve the national debt?
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Couch literally everything in jews., really?
This is manipulative mind control and you know it. The jews use this tactic of brainwashing association all of the time.
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>>530009656
step 1: ai
step 2: ..
step 3: debt solved
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>>530007796
>every dollar printed is owed back with interest
>guys this system may collapse
wow what a genius, he can do basic math.
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Then why did you put all your money into it?
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>>530007796
China already won this game. China has 5x more industrial robots than the USA. China has 50% of all industrial robots on Earth.
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>>530008563
Nice try commie swine.
Tax the rich. Feed the poor. Until there are no rich no more.
We'll be all poor together.
3rd worlder brain.
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>>530008964
>israel
GET THIS PUSSY BREAK HIS ARM *sarcasm*
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> obesity STILL skyrocketing
> depression rampant
> suicides through the roof
> pregnancies plummeting
> cultural balkanization in full form
>.... this neat autocomplete on steroids will fix the debt guyz!

okay peak humanity was a while ago and we deserve everything coming. holy fuck
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>>530007796
MAKE IT GO BANKRUPT!!! FUCK THOSE KIKES!!!
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Are they running out of countries to flee to?
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>>530007796
You know what would be funny.... If someone would sabotage them AI databases in Minecraft
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>>530007796
That or it finally taxes billionaires appropriately
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OH NO
ANYWAY
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>>530007796
@grok how should I feel about this?
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>>530007796
I love when part of establishment make a threat and the only response they get is "do it faggot".
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>>530010158
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>>530007796
The United States issues its own currency.

It cannot "go bankrupt". It cannot run out of money. It can run out of real resources. It can have unwanted or even unmanageable inflationary pressure. Other countries may not want to accept the currency that issues in exchange for real resources.

But it cannot run out of money. The United States of America is NOT revenue constrained. It does not need to acquire, borrow, or otherwise come up with, money before it spends. The very act of Congressional spending authorization creates new money then and there.

This is the same for any and all other monetary sovereigns who 1) issue their own currency 2) tax liabilities are denominated in that currency 3) that currency cannot be exchanged at a fixed rate for any commodity 4) hold no significant debt denominated in foreign currencies.
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>>530008414
>charges you 36% unrealized cap gains on those real assets
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>>530008394
Show flag
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agi soon goys trust the plan. also need another trillion dollar handout.
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>>530008020
>has he explained how AI and robots will solve the national debt?
they are going to sacrifice all the goyim to moloch and have ai and robots do everything. if theres no goyim then there is no need for them to have money to scam
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you niggers got your gold and silver yet?
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>>530008020
He isn't smart enough to recognize the monetary system is controlled by private banks.

AI is for cheap goy video slop
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>>530007796
national debt unironically isn't real. you just hyper inflate the money and it goes away
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>>530008620
>Oh well, better give Elon billions more of taxpayer money to attempt making robots that only rich people can afford.
The funniest shit is that China's ahead of us in robotics, and are mass producing robots that cost like $2,000
Which is still steep for a product but consider that an equivalent robot in Burgermuttville would cost $400,000 and has an always-on connection to Mossad HQ
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>>530007796
when jews tell me they need something all it tells me that I should be against it. if gov't really cared about citizens then they would start implementing UBI infrastructure now instead of sending more money to jews. I have not heard a pip from any gov't faggots regarding UBI means they want AI so they can further isolate themselves from poorplebs
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>>530009286
I hate glazing China like a brotherfucker, but they don't think of it as an investment and products to be sold, they're just using it more like ARPANET.
If we shifted gears and did it more like that, it'd be far more sustainable and probably way more worthwhile since we might get some better infrastructure out of it. It's literally a nobrainer. Increase quality, increase services and products, no need for DEI shit, stable deflation
But for (((some strange reason))) we haven't done that or even considered it.
Also the AI architecture we're basing this on (transformers) has been noted even by its own creator that it can't do what Musk says it will.
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>>530012010
Or you bring the growth rate below the interest rate -- and since the treasury and central bank are both monopoly operations, they can set their respective interests rates (whether bond yields or federal funds rate) wherever they want.

There is no actual market mechanism. Monopolies are market makers. This is Econ 101 and it all goes out the window for supposedly intelligent people.
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1000% eh? Well if it’s a thousand percent then I believe him.
Oh no. Now I’m shaking and farting. Not the billionaires. Oh the humanitaah!
Lets all cover ourselves in turd and pretend to be super futuristic chinese jeetbots from the 1980’s movie surplus special effects dept that She Jingpong bought, maybe that will fool the 1000% and we’ll somehow make it.
The only thing I can think of that could be worse than the 1000% is if it was six million percent.
>Six million percent per capita.
Oy vey it could take out smell aviv like a tidal wave of robotlessness and lack of AI.
Whoops a daisy I just trapped my trapped my prenus in the kitchen draw and can’t escape, this is my final message as I’ll fade away and die once I’ve eaten the last of the cornflakes. But hey, who can survive the one thousand percentening anyway, this is it, it’s all over! Noooo roooobots!
Hey faggots, remember when Elog told you that Donald was in the Apesting files and you bored the living arse off everyone demanding to see them because it was surely the end of Donald ‘orange man’ Trump this time but it turned out - shock horror and big surprise - to be all about left wing politicians and leftist celeb mouth whores and financiers of the left AND turned out that Epstein was one of you TDS pedophiles too?
…Polridge farm remembers.
Pic: more similar tomfoolery. He’s going to escalate to … pushing more russian politician underlings out of the window. Msm terrorism shite & bollocks knows no shame. Yet people use it?
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>>530007796
So if AI and Robots are going to replace all the workers, why are we still importing jeets and spics?
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>>530008020
Uhhhh something something, we need to beat China.
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>>530007796
Elon Musk is literally king grifter. You would think his credibility would be at zero after his stint with DOGE yet we are still here somehow, never underestimate the retardation of the American (((investor class)))
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Goodnight retards.
>>530012492
Wot?
The economy isn’t real you complete nerk.
It’s a tall story that long nosed liars tell to keep peoples heads spinning while they parasitically steal money.
Geez.
Right I’m going to sleep before I have to drug myself again.
Remember everyone. Lots & lots of media or you’ll not know all the things that are going on that are toadally really real. It’s important that you consoom it. Coooonsoooooom it.
Bye.
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>>530008195
There is actually a shit ton of gold and fucking platinum in the asteroid belt in between Mars and Jupiter. That's why a lot of researchers are saying that a lot of first trillionaires will come from those who become the first miners of the asteroid belt.
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>>530010082
When we taxed the wealthy at 70% or greater, we won WW2, the cold war, had the strongest middle class in the history of the country and put a man on the moon.

We've spent decades cutting taxes on the rich on the promise that a rising tide lifts all boats, and nobody can afford a house and more than half of americans have less than 1000 in the bank.

Do the math.
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>>530012988
Yeah it's been something I've researched, but wish I can take advantage of. Asteroid mining companies are just starting up.
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>>530010082
If Australia nationalized it's gold mining industry we'd have enough gold to pay off all our federal and state gov debt in around 10-15 years.
Guess (((who))) currently owns the gold mining companies in Australia?
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>>530007796
>if we don't bankrupt the nation to build a machine to replace jobs which we filled with cheap brown labor to bankrupt white middle-class america we will be bankrupt!!!
i hate billioniggers so much.
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>>530007796
These assholes only want AI and robots to completely replace the working class once and for all.
Their idea of profit is cutting ALL costs. They want to get PAID for doing NOTHING and if the poors fight back they just use the bots to massacre them all with guns and bombs.
Billionaires shouldn't even fucking exist, but some dumb faggot will tell you that they're good.
Nothing they do is good. They're always evil ass psychopathic pedophiles. You can't prove otherwise, and there is tons of evidence to support this.
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>>530008020
if we can automate our own production then sure, maybe. But I give that a 1% chance.
Unless AI can figure out a way to secretly implode the three gorges dam. It's all 'ancient aliens' stuff.
I can describe my job in 3 words so i'm just a layman.
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>>530007796
Maybe there should be a better country or countries in the part of North America between Canada and Mexico instead of one that elects game show hosts, bombs kids and eagerly slurps shit from Benjamin Netanyahu's asshole if the one that's there right now is going to broke for over-investing in a blatant scam
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>>530007796
Kill him
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>>530007796
they'll just get bailed out anyway
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>>530008020
No, because they won't.
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>>530013499
Why would you need gold to pay off your federal and state debt?

Your debt is denominated in AUS dollars and your national government creates ... AUS dollars. You guys way, way, way overthink this.

Gold is not money. It could be money, it has been before. Some people seem to want it to be money again -- but it is not money right now.
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>>530012254
It's not even the jews, anon. Private Equity firms are cannibalizing the entire economy so they can pay rents to the owner classes and pensions to the boomers.
> inb4
I denounce the Talmud, Quran, the Bible, the Freemasons, the Demiurge, and the Book of Mormon
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>>530008104
lucifer is a god of Rome
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>>530008020
L-look... It just will, ok?!?!? Stop asking questions!
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>>530007796
its the solution for pic related
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>>530008394
don't listen to people telling you to show flag.
I think to pull off a pivot to robot workers for factories we would need to be opening factories by now. Elon is probobly instead saying that if AI cannot control the narrative we are going to have our economy destroyed on purpose. I think tariffs could work as well but we can't seem to open factories so everything is fucked.
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>>530012492
No, you say "AWWW GEEZ D00D" when your tributaries pretending to be allies try to cash in their treasury bonds, and then switch to a gold standard. What are they gonna do about it? Have their shills seethe on 4chan?

No refunds.
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>38 trillion in debt
>will be broke
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they already said they need everyone to participate, they need a majority to sign up for services, real id, social media, digital vote, etc... if not then their plan fails, your non-participation in this garbage matters more than ever. They are going to make it hard to do that.
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>>530008020
The solution to the national debt will be to issue new currency and telling anyone dumb enough to diamond hand treasury bills to get fucked.
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>>530007796

the national debt isnt real

there has never been a credit applied

tell elon get the robots to make public both the CUSIP and AUTOTRIS sides of the ledger

otherwise fuck off faggot
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>>530011432
You are correct except that outside of some rare earth materials, the US can fully function with its own resources. Thrive, in fact. If it weren't for retarded beaner farmers we wouldn't have even had the Dust Bowl that fucked up our crops bc the dumb spics couldn't follow basic agriculture procedures.
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>>530008020
it's called a "productivity miracle". It makes the debt sustainable because our GDP increases.
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>>530008020
Those robots will reduce all the carbon that has driven the debt so high. It's worth it.
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You know what's really fucked up im 40 I've left /pol/ 1million times but I always come back because I trust the general consensus here more than anywhere else even though its full of literal trolls trying to piss each other off why is that?
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>>530007796
Yea sort of. We put all our marbles into AI.
The economy is fucked, debt is fucked, so the holy grain is AI productivity...and robots. When I mean marbles all in one basket what I mean is probably like trillions invested, overleveraged, massive amounts of debt being taken out in the HOPES that this tech can replace human labor and create cheaper labor and intellectual labor that somehow... all this can be fixed through growth. And that's the kicker, even if AI succeeds, damn near most humans will be useless eaters. and also there is zero chance in hell that we end up like some Star Trek utopia given the evil pedos running all of this.
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>>530012537
uh oh mety
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>>530008020
They are going to ask the AI how to become profitable. Yes, I do wish I was joking.
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>>530008394
>so what exactly is supposed to keep the welfare systems from collapsing when the population crisis reaches full steam?
Mind showing me where in the Constitution these welfare systems are?
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>>530008020
Why would he explain something that is self evident? Or are you one of the retards who thinks the government should pay 100 men to dig a water main with spoons rather than use an excavator?
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>>530015156
I'm not necessarily disputing that -- but in a capitalist system, existing asset holders have a structural interest in preventing the creation of new productive assets (or slowing the rate at which they are produced) in order to maximize monetization of access to already existing assets.
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>>530015606
now would be the time to persecute them, to make sure they dont fuck this pivotal moment up the way they would like to do.
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>>530015309
Our GDP?
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>>530015956
The General Welfare clause was deliberately left extremely open-ended. Thomas Jefferson wanted to free the population from landlords. Thomas Paine was talking about UBI in the 18th century.
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>>530016191
>The General Welfare clause was deliberately left extremely open-ended.
Ok, so no mention of welfare systems, got it.
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>>530008020
Unironically? Because humans don't know what to do. Not "don't know what to do anymore", but for our entire history every single great empire and kingdom that ever was from West to East suffered catastrophic collapse due to the economy suffering from inflation/deflation.
We literally have no idea how to prevent a merchant from selling his shit too high, which causes a snowball effect towards everyone else. Hopefully, AI saves us. And that is a genuine answer, AI is hope.
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>>530007796
I would rather go bankrupt and be broke and go back to the good old days. Fuck Elon.
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>>530007796
They will replace your labor with robots. And when you revolt, they'll use those robots to kill you.
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>>530007796
Why not just fudge the numbers add a few zeros the money isn’t real anyway it’s a number on a screen that shit is fake
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>>530016369
And to add to this, Rome instated punishment by death to anyone who sells too high. It didn't work, prices continued to rise
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>>530008020
His companies are nothing more than government funded disasters.
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>>530008020
They’ll make you have zero income

The money will go to him and fund a military to shO t you if you take any of his 100 trillion in resources he took by government subsidies.
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>>530007796
we had the dow
we had don't sell
now we have the national debt!!!
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>>530008020
no. in theory it would mean most jobs are done by AI which would somehow increase productivity and therefore GDP and tax revenue
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>>530007796
Boot out illegals and stop giving gibs to niggers and you can fix the entirety of the west in a few years even with fake and gay economies based on thin air.
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>>530007796
He isn't entirely wrong.
If mainstream AI companies flop, the stock market will crash so fucking hard 2008 will look like a good deal.

Modern DL AI has plenty of legitimate and valuable use-cases, but the ammount of money being funneled in to LLM software and infrastructure in particular is beyond insane.



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