I CALL THEE TO THIS COUNCIL OF ASGARD TO DISCUSS RELIGIOUS MATTERS IN THE WESTit is clear from recent events that the zionist branches of christianity cannot be trusted. They are making the same mistake that one of our own, julian the apostate, made over 1500 years ago. Only julian betrayed the christians and tried to build the third temple to spite them. Now the ziochristians have betrayed the moon pagans of iran to help the jews build the third temple. We cannot allow this to happen. I dont care about your biblical prophecies but i know the jews shouldnt be allowed to build their demon troll temple at all costs. I have seen alot of threads lately of pagans denouncing christians. But i am in several pagan circles, and the same irrational bloodlust that has gripped the boomer christians has taken hold of alot of boomer pagans as well. Stuff like prayers to the war gods to bless israels missiles. These zionist boomers, christian or otherwise, are absolutely retarded and insane psychopaths who need to be put in a home before they drive us all off a cliff. I plead you fools, stop fighting over these silly divisions so we can focus our fully psychic might against the jew. We all have alot of work to do in the coming years and it wont just be shitposting. Some of you may have to actually do things irl and meet people. Some of you may even die. Pray for spiritual protection in these times, as the end looms upon us. I have seen it in visions; a mad dog will drinking rivers of blood amidst mountains of corpses and heaps of ruins
>>530011050Pagans aren't real. They're as numerous as the people who played Magic the Gathering in high school at that one lunch table. You're better off picking a version of Christianity and arguing in favor of it instead of "calling pagans to the table"
>>530011152Theres more true pagans than true christians
>>530011622No one cares
>>530011758Clearly you do since youre here. Lets see that geoflag :^)
>>530011050Western Civilization is on the precipice of collapse. With that, “southern civilization” will emerge. Out of the interests of our lands and people, Northern Civilization needs to emerge as a counter to that, to learn from the mistakes of the West and never allow ourselves to fall the way that the West has.
>>530011050Race comes first. Everything else is a wedge. Support Whites that support Whites/thread
>>530011847>uhm actually you care about pagans :^)Could you sound like anymore of a faggot? Lol
>>530011050Catholic.The Pagan gods(demons) are being released from hell and are roaming the earth again... the bad ones not the good ones that are actually angels you misinterpreted as gods.It's bad really bad I can feel it in the air.The Evangelical Christians are apostate in spirit.
>>530012199>Race comes firstIf you are a REAL christian(who actually follows the bible), you should theoretically care more about christian niggers than non-christian whites, which is why I think it's pretty hillarious that christianity is so popular among white nationalist types
>>530011050SHUTUP KIKE
>>530011152Everywhere I look I see pagans and their idols. Go to /ptg/ and they worship a man as a god holding strange rituals. Every board I see it different demons are being worshipped. The world is full to the brim with this. Some people worship a Mouse they call them Disney Adults.It's only going to get worse.
>>530011152>he hated Magic before it was troonedYou're part of the offending group, aren't you, memefag?
>>530012501No Christians don't value their ethnic in-group. we reject jewish blood gold
>>530011758Your image is judaic.
I'm a pagan in an actual pagan church and we cannot talk about Jew shit during a blot.
>>530012501That's a backwards philosophy and not Christian at all. You should care about the non-Christian whites because their souls are up for grabs. The Christian non-whites have the word and the prophets.Not all Christians are Evangelicaltards.
>>530012501I'm not a Christian. But I am White, and every White deserves the chance to be redpilled, be they Christian or whatever
>>530012632>idolsThat's okay, they can just call them saints, that makes it fine
>>530011152>meme nazi flag>hates pagansoy vey, oy vey oy vey oy vey, oy VEY oy VEY
>>530012245I could; i could say literally anything with a memeflag on
>>530012392We need to rename some of these things. Canaanite religion isnt paganism its just straight up satanic black magic
>>530011758"no one cares"great response jude, very well thought outnow remove memeflag so we can see why you are being purposefully ignorantOP, you have my attention, regardless of beliefs our brethren are being misled- straight off a cliff. I fear if we don't unite now it will forever be too late.
>>530013658Porn is that slut Ishtar getting out of the pit again to steal semen.
>>530014611>digitsCrap... God is that you?
>>530011622damn, that hits
>>530013658Maybe you should stop riding on the Christian term for "Anything not Abrahamic", because it sort of naturally carries the connotation "satanic black magic
>>530012392All religion is based on the actual architects of this world as we know it, the anunaki. Enki/Prometheus/Lucifer actually created humanity, and gave us knowledge/free will against the orders of Enlil/Zeus/Yahweh. Jesus was the son of God/Source/Spirit, but what the Catholicism doesnt focus on, is that Jesus said the kingdom of God is within us all, and we are all children of God, and can be like him when we realize this. Abrahamic religions love to suppress knowledge and call any kind of enlightenment/knowledge demonic. They are suppressive religions for cavemen. The people who know how the universe works rule the world, and gatekeep the "forbidden knowledge" from the masses so that they can use this world as their playground. Knowledge isnt inherently good or evil, its just a tool.
>>530015105Ah a Gnostic. Have you fapped to any geometric shapes lately?
>>530015432Nah just porn, but I only really do that as maintenance if I'm going through a dry spell. I dont really buy the archon/demiurge gnostic stuff...I guess I consider myself a luciferian who appreciates the teachings and philosophy of Jesus and Buddha. Namaste faggot ;)
>>530011050>WOTAN
>>530011050I curse your one eyed filthy demon nogod. Germany will be wiped out from the face of the earth.
>>530011050>Calls a council>1PBTIDAlright pagan. Let us start this council by listing our sources and authorities, so that all parties may know and understand each other's positions clearly. I cite the 66 book canon of the Holy Scriptures as well as the Book of Concord. What works do the pagans cite as their authority?
>>530011050Based. I keep saying this. We must move forward. A new faith must form from those of us who make it through the coming storm. We plant the seeds today, with our children and the young men, seeds that can flourish in a society of our own someday. It will not be today. It begins with ceasing and refusing to engage in hatred and discord with our brothers. If you are a white man who strives to live a virtuous life and protect his family, kin and nation(people), you are my friend. Pagan, Christian, catholic, atheist, right, left, it doesnt matter. I will help my kin and greet them as brother, and I refuse to be their enemy unless they give me no choice. I will not hate my brothers, I will not engage in brother wars. We can debate theology and politics when we have a society that is actually ours. I am not a Christian, I believe the old gods are powerful forms that cannot be killed, but it is unlikely that pagan larping will resurrect them under those names and aesthetic.
>>530016195>source!>source please!Ancestral blood memory lmao. Fuck off preddit
>>530011152Show flag cunt.
>>530016302Great post. Blood unites us. No more brother wars
>>530011050>I dont care about your biblical propheciesthose "biblical prophecies" (zionism) are wrong, they are a deception, they are lies. People lie. People make up a lot of stuff, and the latest most prominent deception in Christianity is that those mutli-racial antichristian peoples in their antichristian religion (judaism) are somehow the people of God while also spitting on the blood of Christ and blaspheming him day and night. They are the antichristian synagogue of Satan, Jews are Satan, literally, biblically defined as Satan, opposers and blasphemers of the Lord Jesus Christ, the absolute most opposite thing you can have in Christianity. No, these multi-racial nobodies are not the ancient Israelites, and they never have been. But fooling the entire world with this lie is part of Biblical prophecy, from a true Christian perspective it is to be expected that the entire world is running in an obviously false direction into hell. Don't follow "the world", don't follow the official side of things, don't follow mammon. Truth is not found in this ideological political beast system and God's people are not some artificial antichristian nation established by Rothschild banking dynasty.
All forms of christianity are judaic, and thus zionist. If you are christian, you are jewish inside, meaning that you are spiritually brown no matter what race you are.
>>530016443>Let's have a discussion.>Okay, what about? >WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO KNOW???This is why paganism is dead.
>>530011050>pagans>worships fallen angelsNo thank you. Jesus Christ destroyed your gods on the cross and transfiguration….totally cucked their power over their respective nations. LOL losers. Jesus Christ is King
>>530011050No fuck christians they are all the same I’m sick of their jewish sect getting us in wars for israel they are all the same in my eyes fuck em
As someone who's neutral on the religion question, I must say that White Nationalist anti-Christians are incessant infighters.They genuinely focus on the Jewish nature of the religion without seeing the bigger picture: our race is subjugated and downtrodden. Fucking leave Christians alone. It's been apart of our history for two thousand years, we can debate its validity after we've secured the existence of our people and a future for White children. I think I've seen next to no bickering from the Christian side regarding religion. The "tradcath" people are autists and usually brown so nobody gives about them.
>>530016917wake up
>>530016745I was under the assumption that the discussion was to be about certain shared problems. Is there perhaps some sort of grievance-airing that you'd like to engage in?I'm not religious but it seems like the two groups might be better served buy being less specifically antagonistic. I'm honestly intrigued to hear the beef
>>530011050ᛏᚺᛟᛊᛖ ᚹᚺᛟ ᛒᛚᛖᛊᛊ ᚨᛊᚷᚨᚱᛞ ᚨᚱᛖ ᛒᛚᛖᛊᛊᛖᛞ ᚦᛟᛊᛖ ᚹᚺᛟ ᚲᚢᚱᛊᛖ ᚨᛊᚷᚨᚱᛞ ᚨᚱᛖ ᚲᚢᚱᛊᛖᛞ
>>530017044>Gnosticism
>>530017011I don't think those are genuine posters; it lacks nuance in such an extreme way that no one could be holding the position for any reason other than to troll peopleWell, some people really ARE that retarded, but not that many
>>530017477Actually my dear friend has recently become fervently anti-christian. In the white nationalist scene now, especially on twitter, there's an entire corner dedicated to spreading awareness about the impact Christianity has had on western civilization, how its weakened White people, ect. They go into detail about a lot of history and make great arguments, actually. But I never fully bought into it, as I see sowing more division only makes us weaker in the long run. It's just not worth bickering over.
>>530011050>zionist branches of christianityAnon, Christianity is zionist by default.
>>530017044Yes I agree catholics are a cannibal cult i said I do t like any christians they are all the same they all rape kids they all eat kids they all worship a dead jew. They are all a jewish sect of course they do these things
>>530012199This. Christians are antiwhite.
>>530011152If you said this stupid shit in front of me, I would slap you. Also, this guy is a Jew. Jews will always show up to discourage paganism because they know they're fucked once Whites drop the Abrahamic bullshit and go back to their roots, rituals, and traditions.
>>530013175This. And his memeflag is Jewish too.
>>530014983Yeah but moloch worship is literally just devil worship. It makes sense that the christian god developed to hate it amd it mirrors the war between jupiter and saturn
>>530017244I don't have much grievance with the pagans because I cannot take pagans seriously. I cannot take pagans seriously because they do not take themselves seriously. That's not some empty jab at their character either. See, when I say I'm a Lutheran, that should tell you a few things. It means I believe the 66 book canon of the Scriptures is true and without error, and that furthermore the Book of Concord, while not being infallible in the way the Scriptures are, is a true account of the Scriptures, the church, and Christianity in general. Those two books are authoritative, and if someone were to be able to convince me that either one of those books are incorrect, I would have to admit defeat. Pagans do not do this. Pagans will not cite an authority. They will not generally point to a work and say "Yes, I believe this is entirely true and this is the hill I will die on." They can cite oral tradition, which is fair enough. Christianity has many traditions which were passed down orally. The difference in regards to this conversation is that Pagan oral traditions died out. We only have the vaguest notion of Pagan traditions, and many if not most accounts of those traditions were recorded by Christians. There's extremely little first party information about what the hard beliefs of Paganism in any of its forms actually are, and more damningly, the Pagans of today seem to be in no rush to change that. They are not interested in a Pagan canon. They are not interested in a singular cosmic truth. I suspect they are not interested in these things because by not having a rock, a "hill to die on" as it were, they can believe effectively anything they want. And I simply cannot take that mindset seriously, it's no different than "spiritual but not religious" yoga moms.
>>530017989I would break every bone in your face if you tried to slap me, faggot
>>530012501>christianity is so popular among white nationalist typesIf I had to nail it down, I would say WNs are 60% agnostic. 5% pagan, and 35% Christian. Christian "WN" always back stab others in the Prowhite movement, specifically because they put their rabbi above White people and they get aggressive if you point out the problems with Christianity.
>>530015105No it isn't, goyim are who need material precedent to comprehend, human beings do not.
>>530011050This is antisemitic and has been logged in accordance with 22 U.S. Code § 2731.
>>530017789That's unfortunate, but Christianity is currently about as weak as it's ever been so it's something of an irrelevant topic regarding the state of the West these days
>>530014983>Maybe you should stop riding on the Christian term for "Anything not AbrahamicLmao they never will. They get a rise out if calling pajeets pagan because they know it makes people associate European Old Gods with pajeets.
>>530014611We dont talk about cambions anon>>530015955Interesting but im not sure how true any of that is. Odin supplanting Thor as the head god is a widely propagated theory but there isnt much evidence for it. And Freyr is the God buried under Uppsala, not Odin. Odin was buried under the Irminsul, maybe. All of the great heathen shrines were graves of Gods
>>530018269Their argument is that weakened White people by making them adhere to egalitarian values and basically venerating Jews.While Christians I've talked to have argued that the loss of their faith is what led to Western Civilization becoming weakened morally. Two sides with different takes on the matter.
>>530015105>All religion is basedLoLKEKAnd allyourbase are belong to us.Check em!And all your
>>530016178Amalek will prevail jew>>530016195Tacitus' On the JewsAll I need. Behead all Saturnii
>>530014983That will never happen because that would require a level of honesty christkikes ans catholickikes are spiritually incapable of. They're as dishonest and duplicious as their jewish masters.
>>530011758All this shit about the iran war really being the jews last ditch effort to build the third temple really just goes to show that pagans are the true enemy of the kike. We've done the most damage to them in all of history. Christian expulsions are really just confiscating (((all))) their shit and sending them off to do the exact same shit in the kingdom over. The modern pagan sphere is absolutely riddled and festering with psyops, but I've honestly never really heard of a "pagans for zion" group. You cannot be a christian ethnonationalist.
>>530015105I agree with Cleatus.
>>530011152christianity and paganism can exist within the same individual. Look at the heliand, the theosophy society, the rosicrucians and ( in the past) the masons>>530012199nine nine number nine like the worlds on the tree of yggdrasil >>530015955double sig here? Ironic. Odin is incredibly powerful for being a silly old man in a hat. Governer of the word 'would' , source of the word God. The ancient cult of odin belongs to the basque people
>>530018140No you wouldn't you cowardly little faggot, you don't even have the balls to show us your geographic location.
>>530018140Nah, I don't think so. I would beat the living shit out of you, Jew.
>>530017011Christian WN always make an appeal to the bible when criticizing jewry. Its nonsensical garbage about we wuzzin the real jews and how jews are bad because they killed god. As if these are real criticisms. We have ACTUAL grievance with kikes, we don't have time for fake and gay jewish religion.What's more those is Christian leadership and 99% of Christians view the world as pic related. Which makes sense if you actually understand the bible and unironically believe this spiritual jewish scam is the truth.
>>530017296Kek
>>530017349>obama approved spongebob memes
>>530011758
>>530017789This is after decades of suppression of the topic in these circles. The logic was similar to what you stated before, it was thought that it wasn't worth driving a wedge in things. But its become abundantly clear this issue needs to be routed out. All the more relevant with the new war.
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>>530018690>>530018695Name 1 prominent pagan that anyone respects. You're all dyfunctional midwits losers like Adam Green or Kikes pretending to be anons. You're delusional either way, keyboard faggots.
>>530018132You're problem is you're a bibliophile. You pay lip service to oral tradition, but probably mock its origin if it was contemporary. You cannot conceive of a system of faith that isn't scriptural, where native European modes of faith are largely oral. Some literary traditions exist, but they're largely ancillary. Meaning the origin of european faith lies in the mouth or the ethnos. The origin of semitic religions lays upon a page and thus is divorced from blood.
>>530012199This
>>530018132>lutheranI visited a lutheran church once. Your 66 books and concord dlc means nothing to me. I shall judge ye by your fruits as your God said. You speak of christian tradition, wasnt it your church that threw tradition in the bin?
>>530018132Being something of a third-party I grasp what your issues is but I also don't. I'm White, American, I'm used to the idea of Christian morality and it doesn't much bother me per se, but I've nver had much use for church, so the NEED for authoritative text is a bit incomprehensible, I tend to approach things in a more Epicurean way.Do you feel similarly about "Easter and Christmas" Christians? Is that a different category?But the crux here is the idea of an absolute morality, correct?
>>530018959Alexander the Great. One of the greatest men in history LOL. Now you REALLY look like a stupid faggot.
>>530018772WN christians don't believe that drivel about Western civilization relying on the kikes. I've met a plethora of them who just want to live moral lives and see our people free. This isn't something we should be wasting our breath on.
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - Stophttps://youtu.be/_wvqne10uEQIs my personal savior.Star Wars is my religion.TKD considered but denied...
>>530018959helena blavatsky is one of the greatest women to ever live. Perhaps second only to Jeanne D'Ark
>>530018959Haha. Look at this obvious jewboy try to shit on paganism. Your time is coming.
>>530019044Some guy from before the birth of Christ. Obviously I meant alive today. How pathetic. Kek
>>530011758>largely White, mostly heterosexual communityWhen was the last time you could say that about your gay rabbi yeshua cult?
>>530011050I just want battle. >>530016195You're literally using 66 Jewish books as the basis of your religion. Catholics like to brag that they use something like 80 Jewish books. Even worse, the Orthodox brag about using even more Jewish books.
>>530019074>WN christians don't believeYes, because they believe White people spoke Hebrew and came from the Levant. They're retards who make up maybe 1% of all Christians. Most of which (~75%) are nonwhite. They're effectively flat earthers in the extreme denial of reality they have about their jewish religion.
>>530019140Hey look, this faggot is moving the goalpoats. Shock!
>>530019320Name 1 White pagan alive today that anyone respects, kikeshikl
>>530018969If that is the case, Paganism is by definition a dead religion. It's just as dead as Second Temple Judaism in that the basic foundational requirements to practice the religion are now impossible. Second Temple Judaism died when the temple was destroyed because no temple means no Second Temple Judaism. If Paganism is defined by unbroken oral and liturgical tradition, and those oral and liturgical traditions are broken for generations and forgotten to history, than that religion is by definition dead. Now you can try to recreate that religion, but you have to do so with either the explicit or implicit understand that what you are making is novel. It is new. You have to fill in the blanks with something, and that means you are doing things, saying things, and believing things that your pagan ancestors did not say, do, or believe. This is, by definition, not the same Pagan religion held by the people of Europe in the past. Which is fine, people do create new and novel religions from time to time... but don't try to pass it off as traditional when it's not. It's something new. Something novel. Something nebulous and uncertain. It's not old wisdom.
>>530019383I'm not pagan, post again ITT if you're a child molester.
>>530018935What troubles me though is that many pagan circles bitch about christians all day but wont talk as much about jews. The older pagans, even right wing ones, get visibly uncomfortable when you bring up kikes sometimes>>530019044Fun unrelated fact: both muslims and christians revered alexander the great as a quasi saint. In christendom henwas one of the 3 good pagans, along with caesar, and muslims thought je was a proto muslim who invented islam but didnt write it down. Hes also worshiped as a tibetan buddhist god named king gesar. Imagine being such a legend every religion tries to hijack you
>the zionist branches of christianity? christianity is zionist by default
>>530019498You literally can't name 1. Lmao
>>530019350>t. never knew any White nationalists IRL
>>530011050not even read the slop. they key aspect of odinism is its racial inclusiveness. nowhere it is said that a nigerian cannot go to Valhalla for example. there's no requirements of faith as well so you can very well find out that Valhalla is full of yorubas and zulus while scandinavians are a tiny minority there.
>>530019575>8 kids raped by this ID
>>530018981Not even, Lutherians ratted the man out to the vatican, had him excommunicated, threw his teachings in the bin, wholly accepted anything jewish like feminism and LGBT, tried to distance themselves from him, and to this day they still vehemently denounce him. History has shown us for over 1500 years that christkikes and catholikikes will ALWAYS side with their jewish god's chosen jewish people.
>>530019383You're not fooling anyone, Jew. See how they act when they see Whites waking up and wander off the reservation?
>Buddhi (Intellect/Higher Mind): The faculty of discrimination, judgment, and decision-making; it interprets data from Manas and Chitta, assigning meaning and value.>Huginn and Muninn are the two ravens of the Norse god Odin, whose names mean "Thought" (Huginn) and "Memory" (Muninn). Each day, they fly across the Nine Worlds to gather news and information, returning to whisper what they've seen and heard into Odin's ear, making them his eyes and ears and symbolizing his quest for knowledge.Wednesday is Wodens Day, to the Romans it was Mercurys day, and the Vedics it was Budhas day, the God associated with the planet Mercury. Budha helps you to analyze, study, and understand the deep philosophical truths (Vedanta) needed to break free from the cycle of rebirth, also known as Odins quest for knowledge.
>>530019575Christian organizations donate 60 million to israel per year. Pagans donate 0
>>530019627You literally cannot name 1.
>>530018959How about Himmler, you dumb bastard? Has a Nazi flag and doesn't actually know shit about it. What a retard.
>>530019641Because pagans don't exist outside of online larpers. Name 1 that anyone respects.
>>530019445>Paganism is by definition a dead religion.Not to be too soulless about it but it's just a branding issue. A reconstitution is extreme, but I think it be a bit of a mistake to call to an "unbroken" tradition because there are always fractures and tweaks and warps and patches to these things. You, a Protestant, should be aware of this fracture issue. It works because you tried your damnedest to cleave to what you could where you could.
>>530019598The only other White nationalist I know IRL is an atheist. The based christians are groyper tier civnats who get uncomfortable when you're unironically racist and get mad about jews "stealing" the name israel for their state lmao.
>>530019641Christkike organizations are some of the most ardent supporters of mass immigration too.
>>530019687.
>>530019575>>530019699>jew won't engage with our arguments>just keeps goalpost shifting and coping
>>530019806why!are you posting a selfie?
>>530019517Right, but as far as pagans go there are so few already and I seriously doubt a large number of those are at all WN. I don't believe Paganism is going to beat the jews. The secular arguments about race and the jews are much more direct and accurate. I think it would be cool if we could come up with a White only religion and a function of that religion is the advancement of the White race, making it central to the theology. No idea how to achieve that though.
>>530019632blah blah blah. Address the racial inclusiveness of odinism: >>530019602
>>530019602>key aspect of odinism is inclusivinessWhere did you learn this from, tumblr? The rigsthula clearly states that heimdall divided mankind into three races, with blond whites at the top as the priest and king caste. Ruddy whites get mid caste as craftsmen and farmers and swarthy whites get peasant and thrall work. Other races arent even treated as human or races of mankind. It was believed that huns were the descendants of trolls who mated with evil witches. Tacitus also specifically mentions that the germanics were a pure race who considered those of mixed blood to be ugly. Lets keep in mind this was back when there were only whites in europe, they were so racist they considered you a disgusting negrified mutt even for being half german half slav
>>530019806>11 kids raped by this IDHas anyone else noticed that e-christians have to try really hard to look anti-semitic and it comes off as forced and unnatural since they're running an obvious gayop to fill pews in their dying churches?
>>530019445Yes, reconstructionists typically have to reconstruct native faith. You could argue for some slavic religions that you can basically peel off christianity the way you might flake off rust and work to restore what was there before and it's easier to do so, but fundamentally europeans need to construct new faiths. This won't happen any time soon though, every one's mind is poisoned by the jew, nothing can arise from it that is wholistic. But hopefully some time in the future, hopefully before it all goes to shit, sages will come to be to reconstruct what was lost, or create something new. An ethnogenesis is most important though. It's the only reason I pay catholicism a modicum of respect, since it's basically paganism + a veneer of christianity. However, catholicism is deeply deeply compromised.
>>530019598My friends. None of which are religious. I was attached to a group at one point. Only knew one of them to be Christian.
>>530019759Groypers are NOT pro-white or 1488 or know about the JQ or any of that, they're normies and a big chunk of them are brown or autistic or both. I'm talking about ethnonationalists, race realists, our guys. They're genuine people, cream of the crop. They want to have families and lead decent lives. Why would you neglect this group by shitting on their religion?
>>530019660I've seen many named already and you've had nothing. Silly Jew.
>>530019778christianity never supported that before being taken over by the jews. Good things (Christianity, university, media, government) that were taken over by the jews must be taken back from the jews. It's that simple.
>>530018991>so the NEED for authoritative text is a bit incomprehensibleConsider the historical context. When the Reformers began their work to cleanse the church, they were accused of all kinds of things. The Roman Catholics accused us of worshipping Luther (That's actually where the term Lutheran came from. It was originally an insult like Yankee but like the term Yankee it stuck), telling people that Mary was in hell, eating babies, all kinds of patently false things. Therefore, when the reformers went before the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, they had to compile a work that contained all of the beliefs that they avowed were true and why they believed those things. This was done so that nobody could accuse the reformers of preaching anything that they were not willing to be held to account for. Every tradition of Christianity has its own version of such works, such as the Roman Catholics Catechisms of the Catholic Church or the Presbyterian Westminster Confession of Faith.
>>530019914He's a Jew. Jews always show up like this during Paganism discussions. They know it's over for them once Whites go back to it.
>>530019966Christians are vastly underrepresented in the IRL activism scene, be it NSN, active clubs, Nordic Resistance Movement, etc.>>530020012>I'm talking about ethnonationalists, race realists, our guys.Like I said, I know zero christians who fit this. The christians I do know who know about the JQ are nigger lovers.
>>530011050There is no reasoning with them. It is a valiant effort, but I wouldn't waste your breath.
>>530019823>>530019846>>530019914I know you're most likely Kikes larping as White people. Which is why I have spent 10 years contributing to the antisemitism that has you crying on r/Judaism. And I won't get baited into writing dissertations about the evil of pagans — because they aren't even real.
>>530020063>christkike lying like it's a day ending in yChristkikery was literally founded by a jewish pedophile rabbi and his jewish apostles you lying nigger.
>>530019868Understanding Odin through the Vedic lense comes with understand race through the Vedic lense as well. In this material world not all races are equal, but all are capable of moksha.
>>530020097It's funny to me that church attendance is strongly correlated with support for israel, but on /pol/ and /pol/ alone we're told christians are leading the fight against jewry.>>530020160>I have spent 10 years contributing to the semitismYou sure have.
>>530019445Ah, but to reaffirm my point, since I gauge this is where you're going with it, Ordin and thor worship, zeus and hera, is still fundamentally valid, as they are ethnic egregores, and persist throughout mediums. the way the European man sees spirituality is both syncretic and very constant. Thor, hercules, really doesn't matter how exactly you remember them and what their stories are. Embedded in our psyche, regardless of his position within the pantheon, exists a mighty virile man, he wields a cudgel and smites serpents with thunderous fury. Essentially, the Gigachad. And what mask he wears and how you remember it really matters little. Jung does a good deal of work on these psychic entities embedded within our bloodlines. So just because some Asatru cringelords start worshipping thor with rituals that never existed using words that were never historically spoken, doesn't actually matter. What counts here is a genuine and sincere outpouring of european spirituality, and that the gods we commune with reside within our very blood.
>>530020063>before being taken over by the jews.Nigger. It was created by jews. The US bombing Iran is the end result of running Golem OS.
>>530019910post direct quotes preventing non whites to enter valhalla or to be odinists. I've searched the issue on multiple AIs and found none. I remember the odinist scene of 20 years ago or so and groups bent over backwards to demonstrate how anti-racist they were.
>>530020160>can't argue with us>keeps coping and strawmanning and goalpost shifting and lashing out like a wounded jew>still won't even engage in good faith by showing his real flagsuck start a blunderbuss, jewish vermin.
>>530020216Yeah, they sure are leading the fight against jewry, by bending to the jews every demand for over 1500 years. >christcucks gave jews a legally and religiously guaranteed monopoly on money lending in Europe>2000 years of brother wars to give jews control of europe, many hundreds of millions of White europeans killed.>forced conversions of millions of europeans on threat of death if they refused. Millions of Whites were hunted down and killed for refusing to convert>waged two world wars to give jews control of the rest of the world, killing another 80+ million White people.>helped jews wage the cold war, killing another 40 to 60 million in bolshevik jewish gulags/death camps>defended jews when they commited the holodomor>the church smuggled as many jews out of harms way as it could during every progrom in European history>the church convinced spain to put expelled jews on boats to the new world instead of killing them>the church defended the jewish slave trade by sending White christians to kill berber pirates that attacked the jewish slave ships. >christcucks in America allowed jews to create the federal reserve and completely hijack American finance, and just about every single other industry.>christians in America let jews completely trash their culture VIA holywood and the entertainment industry>christcucks in America have been fighting jewish wars for them since WW1, arguably even the civil war.>christcucks vehemently defend Israel while it robs them blind and fucks them in the ass>the church helped smuggle jews out of the post-collapse USSR, into the US and Israel>the church followed along with, defended, and preached feminist ideology>the church helps smuggle known paedophiles within their ranks around the world to avoid prosecution for their abuse of children>sicut, fucking, judaeis
>>530019962Id recommend reading the germanization of early mediveal christianity. Its a hard book to find. But it will fit alot of puzzle pieces together for you. There is a reason they took out the latin mass, and all the old saint feasts like martinmass and michaelmas. It isnt just about spiting christianity and their traditions but destroying what old european pagan traditions were preserved by the church as well. Just think about the true damage that getting rid of latin mass and education did. For thousands of years that was the universal language of europe and then they shut that door and sealed it with lead, forever disconnecting our people from our own ancestors, our own heritage. Since learning latin so much has been made clear to me, even though i am a german. The holy roman empire wrote all its official documents in latin so even as a german, you must learn it to know your ancestors.
>>530020242>jew owned aislop>researchlol. LMAO even. Get a load of this retarded jewish faggot
>>530020229I am sure jews moved seas and mountains to tear down the State of the Church in the 19th century and then dechristianize white societies in the 20th because Christianity was their creature and and/or benefited them. Good luck explaining that champ.
>>530020321One thing that really makes them chimp out is when you tell them Stalin released clergy from the gulags and started pushing christianity after Barbarossa because he knew it was crucial to do that to get them to go die for jews.
>>530020102>I know zero christians who fit this.You never heard of Martin Luther?
>>530020463We were talking about IRL.
>>530020369post quotes or shut up champ. it is that simple.
>>530020361Latin language is child of proto indo european. christianity was HEAVILY moulded to fit European people, and then we refined it over centuries to better fit our spiritual needs, but the amount of schism is proof of a problem. It didn't, and still doesn't fit our souls, because it's not made by us, no matter how we smash and shape and hammer it to a mould, it is a fundamentally alien spirituality. So yea, while I don't know what you're talking about, the basic fundamentals of it doesn't surprise me at all.
>>530020242>i have done hours of research using cutting edge artificial intelligence sirLmao. Good bait my old chum. I grant you your last (you)
>>530020427>oy vey the jews de-christianize-ACKno they didn't, that period was literally called the enlightenment period because your jewish dark age ended, mass literacy ideals returned to Europe, and Europeans chose to shrug off the jewish chains. Fucking lying jew LMAO holy shit
>>530020073I try not to pick on paganism becasue it's an umbrella term and I like to give them the opportunity to "claim a school" so we don't get stuck with this meaningless "Pagan" term. It's not as if there's no texts at all (thanks Christians, credit where it's due)
>>530011758That headline is a kike attempt to destroy more white heritage, retard
>>530020163Slurs and obscenities don't change your inability to explain this: >>530020427
>>530020463>martin lutherYou mean the Martin Luthor who's own denomination turned on him, rejected his teachings, ratted him out to the vatican to have him excommunicated, denounce him to this day, and then wholesale adopted zionist and jewish ideals?>>530020485>NO YOU HAVE TO ONLY USE KOSHER SOURCES LIKE MY JEWISH AIlol goalpost shift harder you filthu fucking jew
>>530020427Christianity is literally how they ever got the ability to live in Europe. Kikes are central to your theology. Without kikes you have no religion and if they were to eliminated then your prophecies become null and void.Contrastly if White people are eliminated, christian prophecy remains intact.
>>530020651see>>530020550you lying jew
>>530019549only since the 70s with the release of the new international version of the bible ( made in chicago, where our current (((catholic))) pope comes from )
>>530020651>>530020427>Those who bless Israel will be blessed - those who curse Israel will be cursed.This is the basic and fundamental precept of modern western Christianity and denying this makes you nothing more than an apostate.
>>530020665>and then wholesale adopted zionist and jewish ideals?The guy who wrote "On the Jews and Their Lies" in 1543?
>>530020550>ESL meme
>>530018981>You speak of christian tradition, wasnt it your church that threw tradition in the bin?Is tradition a universal good? If shooting up heroin was tradition in your family for the last hundred years, should you continue it? Mindless, thoughtless, unreasonable adherence to tradition is why the Jews are the way they are today. They became so enraptured with their own traditions, their own orthodoxy, that when the prophecies finally came to pass they rejected their own God in favor of continuing on the tradition of waiting for God. Tradition is a good thing, generally speaking, but it is not a universal good. Many traditions crept into the church catholic slowly but surely. First a regional tradition like the Bodily Assumption of Mary gains popularity, then it gains favor amongst some bishops, and next thing you know it's "tradition" that you'll go to hell for not affirming despite being nowhere in the Scriptures nor held in catholicity. Same with Penance, Purgatory, many things. With no biblical basis, these traditions have no warrant and are open to scrutiny. Not necessarily rejection, but scrutiny, and if it obscures the pure gospel than it is to our detriment and should be removed.
Non-monotheistic religions are anti-intellectual. The triumph of Christianity is that it was able to facilitate the spread of Hellenic philosophy to the laity. So much groundwork was done from 1-5th centuries to show that the core christian truths are compatible with Platonic theologic truths. The denigration of Christianity, paradoxically, was caused by the primacy of Aristotle in the scholastic tradition. It is paradoxical because it simultaneously produced Aquinas (arguably the best) and William of Ockham (arguably the most damaging). A desire to revert to paganism on a systemic level is doomed to fail insofar as the intellectual landscape has irrevocably changed; the laity merely sustain growth that is affected by intellectuals (prophets, theologians, etc...). The strength of Christianity is that it draws upon ~2500 years of the smartest humans in history adding to its corpus. None of you are smart enough cpunterbalance the pressure placed on the necks of the pagan gods by merely one of the thousands of monotheistic theologians; and your attempts at intellectualizing some systematized paganism will produce crypto-neoplatonism/gnosticism.Christianity is, moreover, the only religion on the planet that possesses core tenants that are explicity anti-jewish. Islam can be concieved of, even, as an extension of Judaism—a "righting of the path"; but Christianity fundamentally dismantles Jewish monolatrism and reconstructs it as the closest approximation that mankind has to rationally informal monotheism.Truth, my dear larpers, is what has always driven genuine faith; and it is Christianity's proximity to cosmological/ontological fundamental truths buttressed by 2500 years of codified thought that separates it from Judaism, Islam, etc...
>>530020731>jewbrained liar just keeps on doubling down on dishonestyyou lying niggers have been simping for jews your entire history.
>>530019383how about 2 Henrik Palmgren and Lana Lokteff of red ice TV
>>530020187Still no refutation of my claims about the openness of odinism / Valhalla entry to non whites. You have a point about the racial awareness of the indian declination of the IE religion but that doesn't extend to the european branches of it. Btw, Vedic Aryans could not prevent race mixing and today's India is the ultimate proof of that.
>>530020752Go read my post again and maybe you'll understand why your reply is fucking retarded. He literally got ratted out to the vatican by his own congregation for his writings about jews, and got excommunicated because of it. >>530020763>can't argue with the truth>copemaxxes
>>530020922Your argument is sourced by jewish AI that only uses jewish sources, you lying jew.
>>530020781This is why you're a spiritual Jew. Bodily Assumption of Mary is a pagan abstraction and it is good and healthy for us to believe spiritually. You would shrive genuine european growth from your soul purely out of obescience to a jewish book.
>>530011152White pagans? Yes, now check the amount of indians in this planet you have more pagans than ever.
>>530020739there is no such a thing as 'modern' christianity. There is a Christianity not taken over by the judeomasonry (for the Catholic Church that is before 1870) and a Christianity taken over by the judeomasonry. The latter is by definition not Christianity at all.
>>530021058So you worship a dead religion, I'm hearing...
>>530011050I appreciate the effort but most christians on this site will not be on board with colaborating with other religions as they see all non-abrahamic faiths as inheritently demonic and false, I have noticed the amount of shills present on this thread this alone proves the threat that this council represents to the world kike order but we should first organize a pagan front and then include any christians hostile to the kikes as aditional backing but still time is running short and the creation of the third temple must be stopped at all costsT.gnostic
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>>530021058>NOOO IT WASNT REAL CHRISTKIKERYChristkikery was literally founded by a jewish supremacist rabbi who raped kids, and his jewish apostles.
>>530017989This, I'm sick of the amount of "We wuz jewing!" and "Actually we are the true solutions" when historically Christians have cucked out the jews.Sure, kick them out of 109 countries, but not a single one burned them at the stake like the heathens en mass? Nobody forced them all to convert?Then we have basically all mainstream churches transformed into dispensationalist cucks and they have the audacity to flex like their recent coping conversion to east orthodox is evident of their strength?I just saw some faggot on youtube that starts out ranting about all the shit happening right now but then goes into a rant about how the messiah they're summoning is the anti-christ and re-framing it in the exact same dipshit way that the Dispensationalists believe in.Is the irony lost here? Does he not know that Christians like him are actively trying to summon the anti-christ by tacking on the "AWKCHUALLY Jew's you think its your messiah but it's actually OUR checkmate when christ comes back :^)" cope?If Christfags are spreading that cope then they're proving they aren't willing to resist. They'll Do nothing the hardest, because they think Jesus will bail them out.Mark my words. if Greater Israel does come to past, the jews will almost certainly have their massive cope about the Messiah and carry on jewing. But what will the Christ cucks do if not cope the hardest at the dystopian world they've created>Any day now, Jesus is going to smite Benni's anti-christ successor
>>530020835>all these lies in one post.Christkikery literally ended all those old european ideals, mass literacy, ancient greek philosophy, all of it buried until the enlightenment period when White men started shrugging off the jewish chains in large numbers.
>>530011050God gave me eyes for seeing.I see a lot of Judeo-Christians supporting Israels wars.
>>530020781>muh tradition>muh tradition bad!Why prattle on about tradition then? What are your traditions worth? Your religion is just as novel as ours it appears since you just follow the same prayers as some german guy from 500 years ago and his silly little new ideas on the bible. I can at least respect the old churches. Look at the fruits of your protestant revolt; overt heretics like the mormons or JWs who think jesus was an angel and that crosses are pagan idols. You may as well be pagans trying to reconstruct an ancient and dead religion
>>530021116gnostics are retarded death cultists
>>530020997the post non jewified sources that prove non whites cannot be odinist or cannot enter Valhalla. When I was an odinist, 20+ years ago, there were many groups that spent all their time/energy trying to prove how anti-nazi and anti-racist they were. You abandon Christianity (under false premises) and then you're immediately back into square one in terms of racial awareness.
>>530011152Pagan just means not being a spiritual kike golem
>>530021322>keeps lying and coping and shifting goalposts>all of this is based on jewish ai that exclusively uses jewish sources made up by jews
You are a pagan very sound of mind and your paganism is right up my alley of Catholicism firmly rooted in indo european imperial religion, symbolism, history, and myths, which I firmly believe were all fulfilled by Christ and Catholicism (as Catholicism in its fundamental elements, even more so than the jewish ones, is Platonic-Hellenestic and Indo European thought, thing which fully manifested itself in the medieval era, gothic and romanic architecture, primitive Christianity -namely Gnosticism- and above all else, the crusades) But lately I find myself delving deeper and deeper into the unseen sides of my own faith and my own tradition, that is indo european religion-thought to its earliest forms and neo platonism or gnosticism, which I find to be more convincing lately than the jewish coopted surface Christianity.So let me ask you, is there any way I could talk to you in private? I am interested in your connection to the ancient and openness to dialogue with Christians.
>>530021237You genuinely have 0 understanding of history. A simple reading of the history of the Roman empire would have saved you from contributing such a dogshit post from this thread. There are hundreds of thousands of pages of scholarship on this and you have read none of them. This, moreover, is the problem: you do not have a fervent desire to seek truth. You are merely concerned with aesthetics and cannot hold your tongue when truth appears ugly.
>>530021293Gnosticism is the perennial tradition. Jews try to claim it as their own as they do but its origins are far from abrahamic.
>>530021237christianity is what saved literacy during the dark ages of europe, it was christians who transcribed the works of plato and Aristotle and protected them to carry into the modern age>>53002114090% of what you are doing in this thread is poisoning the well. I will give you credit for mentioning the tragedy of the holodmor though. Are you an Odinite? What faith have you, angy leaf?
>>530021398>projecting this hardChristkikes literally gatekept everyone but jews and nobility from mass literacy because it would have destroyed their jewish death cult. Don't (you) me again you duplicious little cunt
>>530020573All the more reason one would want them to develop a canon. Again, I can read the Catechisms of the Catholic Church and know exactly what a Roman Catholic affirms, and I know that if any supposed Roman Catholic contradicts anything in the Catechisms of the Catholic Church they are not orthodox Roman Catholics. Same for Presbyterians and the Westminster Confession of Faith or the Anglican Book of Common Prayer. But since none of the expressions of Paganism can gather together a text (I suppose the Prose Edda is as close as we're going to get) that they can affirm has authority, how can I engage them in serious dialogue? Their arguments become vapor. As soon as you make a claim or point they find inconvenient they simply snake right out of it by saying they don't believe in that specific thing.
>>530021462Doesn't meant they aren't retarded death cultists.
>>530021398thanks for your contributions pewdiepie
>>530021140are you a bot or something ? The Catholic Church has been anti-semitism central for the best part of 2 millennia. It blessed expulsion of jews, banning them from power and public life, demonizing them and so on. True, the Catholic Church did not build fake showers for the jew, but we know that nobody did so even that argument is a non starter.
>>530021293In a sence we are death cultists yes but gnosticism makes orders of magnitude more sence than any exoteric abrahamic copium religion, we are all retarded, welcome to our retarded and evil world run by an even more retarded and evil god
>>530020160>I'm not a Jew, I swearLOL
>>530019868We are all made from the same stuff energetically but vibrate at different frequencies thus meaning the universe is inherently hierarchical.
>>530021378I find your radiography of Julian's historical figure and biography particularly interesting, few pagans actually take a good look at the man and judge him for what he was, instead rallying around him and treating him as some sort of demigod like figure of greek myth, when in reality he was just a man of his time who wasn't even into the same paganism of Augustus or Caesar; he wasn't even as pure-pagan of the roman civic religion as the early empire just a measly 2 hundred years before his birth, by then the eastern mystery cults had entered and took effect into the roman empire, which made Julian more of a neo-platonist who called back to early greek influenced roman paganism like we today call back to medieval Catholicism or germanic paganism in our anachronistic modern world and our own anachronistic condition as modern people. And this is proof that you're actually serious as someone rooted in this tradition and aren't just here to shitfling or shill or divert conversations like most people here.
>>530021470>christianity saved literacy>by restricting everyone but the rich, the nobility, the royalty, the clergy, and the jews from accessing it>>530021470>now the lying jew hiding behind a memeflag projects his well poisoning on me>after lying through his teeth in defense of a jewish death cult
>>530021562You know what makes more sense than both? the divinity in nature and the divinity in your ancestral roots. Just kill yourself already, hopefully before you propagate your retarded ideas to impressionable idiots.
>>530021378Spanish catholicism is basically christian vajrayana. Pretty fascinating. They have buddhist stupas built into the cathedral in santiago. I rarely get wifi the way I live desu. Lemme try to whip up a protonmail
>>530021277>Your religion is just as novel as ours it appears since you just follow the same prayers as some german guy from 500 years ago and his silly little new ideas on the bible.But it's not new. That's why it's so important to have written record, so we can point back to the teachings of the church fathers and rightly declare that we are the ones practicing an orthodox faith and it is in fact the Roman practices that are new and novel. Take Sola Scriptura for example, the Protestant affirmation that the scriptures are the highest authority in Christianity.>"Believe me not in whatsoever I shall simply deliver, unless thou find the things which I shall speak, demonstrated out of the holy Scriptures.” Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lecture 4.17: 348AD>"There is, brethren, one God, the knowledge of whom we gain from the Holy Scriptures, and from no other source." Hippolytus of Rome, Against Noetus (160–236 AD)>"Whatever is not supported by the testimony of Scripture we reject as false.” Gregory of Nyssa, De Cognitione Dei, pg. 46:1115, 380 AD>"The holy and inspired Scriptures are fully sufficient for the proclamation of the truth." St. Athanasius, 360 ADThere is nothing new or novel about Lutheranism. We brought receipts for everything.
>>530021398You're quite literally wrong.
>>530021503By the time of Constantine the empire was already flooded with eastern thought and eastern mystery cults such as Mithras, neo platonism is also of alexandrian chaldean influence like Spengler pointed out, to put the blame solely on Christianity for the loss of the greco-roman civic pagan religion of the republic's days seems a little bit disingenous, I think that is what the japanese anon is getting at; and Julian is a great example of this.
>>530021237>the enlightenment period >when White men started shrugging off the jewish chains in large numbersUnironically the funniest post in this thread. The reformation/enlightenment were borne from Ockham/crypto-aristotelianism which served to disposses the king (the ethnos) from rightful ruler and pope from head of catholicism. The enlightenment was not a force of good; rather, the enlightenment and antecedent causal chain aligned Europe with liberal democratic hedonism/materialism. The most accessible fruits of the enlightenment are scientific advances and, doctrinally, utilitarianism/positivism/empiricismStop embarrassing your brethren and start with the Greeks. Plato and Aristotle as a foundation are a must to participate in this thread
>>530021367my goalpost has not shifted: having you presenting proofs that a non white cannot be an odinist or cannot enter Valhalla, according to the odinist religion. That's all. Available sources and the very practice of the odinist groups demonstrate the opposite.
>>530020835Amaterasu weeps for you
>>530021559>tries to accuse me of being a bot after deriving his arguments from jewish ai trained on jewish sources made up by jews>continues lying through his teeth in defense of a jewish death cult when catholikikes literally forced laws on their subjects allowing jews to take positions of power>starts reflexively babbling unprovoked about the halls of costYeah you just can't help but reflexively give yourself away rabbi.
>>530011152You're the larper, lil bro. You're a white person pretending to be a middle-easterner and worshipping a literal rabbi nailed to a stick.European paganism, Buddhism, Taoism = all 100% non-jewish.Christianity = an offshoot of Judaism.
>>530021514That might be holding them to a standard of piety that may well have been atypical of the people of the day. Celtics particularly suffer a massive disadvantage of being illiterate and largely crushed out early, but the Irish have way-of-life texts that managed to carry through. But at any rate, piety wouldn't be virtue if it were a universal thing. BUt you're right to weed out the faithless right out the gate, there's no reason for them to speak
>>530011050https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hePRA9yVdQE
>>530021503>mass literacy because it would have destroyed their jewish death cult.Funny you mention that because ever since mass literacy Christianity has declined in White populations. Its booming in nigger and brown areas now.
>>530021559>are you a bot or something ?See picture
>>530021562>gnosticism makes orders of magnitude more sence than any exoteric abrahamic copium religion,Gnosticism is still abrahamic. Just an inversion.
>>530016745Im not a "pagan" as in I do not follow a set of larps to try and revive the past. I am happy to have a discussion about it, but you begin with >source!My source is my relationship with God and my spiritual path. Another issue is thay your belief system necessarily precludes mine from being valid in every way. So what is it you would like to discuss? Ill happily share my views and beliefs.>>530016653Exactly. Both sides engage in absolute contempt for the other. Both sides are falling for Jewish, semite divide and conquer.
>>530021751>nooo goy the enlightenment was bad because it took power away from goodest goysYou couldn't be more jewish if you tried. >the most accessible fruits of the enlightenment period were things that were strictly gatekept, smothered and forbidden by (((the church))) until the dam brokeYes, we know. >stop embarassing your bretherin and start with greek philosophy that was completely removed from the societal zeitgeist and buried until the masses could read and learn for themselves againYou just keep proving my points for me you dumb cunt. I can see through your jewish verbosity just fine.
>>530011050Retarded theosophist subversion thread.Fuck the UN, fuck your matreya
>>530011050> that the zionist branches of christianityEsau gambit, worshiper of the kike-on-a-stick edition."I'm the good rabbi follower. No, I'm the good one!"The very root of christianity is zionist, from the simple fact that it's about worshiping a kike.There are no "non-zionist" branches.
>>530021574I have noticed a concerning habit among some neopagans of calling Julian the Apostate "Julian the Pious" as an attempt to rehabilitate his historical image and as yoy say, rally behind him as a kind of pagan hero. I find this to be a foolish venture as julian did little to truly help tje diminished stateof hellenism while helping the jew, our primeveal enemy, purely out of spite. In julian i see the same petty spitefulness that radiates from many neocons and conservatives in american leadership today, a kind of spiritual rage against the muslims that has blinded them to the truth. It is curious that that saint who supposedly killed juliannwas saint mercurius, literally 'Holy Mercury'. Mercury was equated to Wotan by the romans, and from this I see that both the pagan Gods and the Chridtian God rejected this Apostate
>>530021814>(((available sources)))Once again, you already admitted your entire argument was derived from jewish AI that's exclusively trained on kosher content.
>>530021918You're lambasting him for larping as eastern while you larp as far eastern. Just get real, Christianity is the closest we have to an authentic western religion rooted in authentic western thought and tradition, and if you were still to naysay then we have no religion but our "enlightened scientific atheism" that has destroyed the world. Nietzche already called it, how can you cope with it?
Its not the Jews that are the foundation of Christianity, Its God. God talked to Moses through the Burning Bush. God also Sent Jesus Christ.Its the same God. So that's why the old Testament is important. not for bootlicking Jews. But understanding what God wants from us. to understand the implications of why things are the way they are and why it was so terrible that Jesus was Crucified. Most the time people just say read the new testament. Worship Jesus. For his blood sacrifice is the reason why you are given God. Jews are legitimately a cursed people. When they went against God's plan and murdered the Messiah, the old ways of Jews were gone. God is no longer on the side of the Jews. He hasn't been. Judaism as a whole is suppose to dissolve and Jews are suppose to convert to Christianity. They are not suppose to worship Baal, or Moloch, They are to give up their old ways and customs to be Christians.IF YOU FUNDEMENTALLY DONT GET THIS. YOU ARE NOT A REAL CHRISTIAN YOURSELF AND YOU DONT HELP THE CAUSE.So I guess you really do have to ask yourself. Why are you helping the Jews be able to continue to worship their "God" that isn't there for them any longer?Because some psudo-christian said that they are still suppose to be God's chosen people?Hypocrisy.
>>530021814Oh yeah?! Where does it say in the bible that Martian AIs are particularly evil as compared to lunar AI?!?!Obviously mass global migration and demographic replacement aren't going to be things Odin spoke on, due to norse culture typically only having to interact with outsiders they willingly brought in as slave cattle in highly limited quantities. It's not a problem they knew, so it didn't appear in their writing. What they knew were old time migrational patterns and in the sagas you can look to the strict delineation of Vanir and Aesir gods to know that ethnic distinction mattered. how they dealt with this mattered equally, they united the tribes in symbolic matrimony, but the Vanir didn't live with the aesir. Vanaheimr denizens and jotunheim denizens would not go to valhalla upon death, no.
>>530021728Okay fine. Did you read Tacitus on the Jews yet? Its very short and will give you a basic introduction to pagan views on the jews.
>>530022175>jew memeflsgag>BS in his id>come on goy jewish gobbeldygook is the closest thing you can have to an authentic religion goy>now get in the church and worship the magic rabbi and believe in jewish fairytales already for fuck sakesshalom rabbi
>>530022216All this cope and denial in order to accept that you worship a jewish fucking god. Its fucking pathetic.
>>530022175Or like the other anon said, neo-platonism or gnosticism, which are irrevocably linked to Christianity as is or at least to one of its stages; it's literally all we have left if you were to be to have "real real western religiosity removed of any eastern influence."Pagans need to get real: Christianity changed the game and there's no going back unless the world were to go to shit and people artificially returned to those ways and to the ancient pagan texts and rituals, but it'd be LARP, it'd be something different, and again, irrevocably touched by Christianity in some way shape or form, so that's why I am saying that the european brand of Christianity with all its myths and medieval folklore is an available and good choice. The visigoths of Toledo, as early as them, were already facing this issue and combining their old native germanic aesthetic and folklore with their newfound roman faith, we're just arguing an old tired issue here.
>>530021882When it comes to innocuous things like comparativism of religions AI is as good as any other tool. I have read practically the entre opus of Dumezil back in the days so I know a thing or two about IE religion(s).As for the Catholic Church you can cherry pick whatever you want but the line of force of history is Catholic Church =antisemitism. Try to explain a world changing event like the 1492 expulsion of the jews from Spain by Isabel the Catholic with your false assumptions if you can.
>>530011050you're a retarded idiot
>>530022334God no longer sides with Jews. like I said, God sent the Messiah. They killed the Messiah. They face God's WraithThey are no longer God's Chosen people.What's not to get? They were, and now they weren't. Believe in Jesus, Because thats what God wanted.
>>530022363Do you know what our forefathers did when jews poisoned the well? We threw the kike into the well and dug a new one.We didn't keep drinking from the poisoned well because "well I guess it's the only well we have hurrdurr"
>>530022287I've only argued in good faith and all you can do is call me jewish and bitch and moan about not showing you my country because otherwise you would resort to cheap nationality insults just as I could do it for your jewish-indian-nigger infested and ruled glorified economic zone you call "homeland", do you understand why I don't show my country now? I believe it's called... anonymity.
>>530022375>Try to explain a world changing event like the 1492 expulsion of the jews from Spain by Isabel the Catholic with your false assumptions if you can.noithing to do with Catholicism, that's a secular ruler. You don't even have the fundementals in your brain to read history.
>>530011050all branches of christianity are inherently zionist. youre just equating 'zionism' with the private founded World Zionist Congress (jews).fact is, christians want exactly the same thing jews have. theyre not upset Israel exists, theyre upset theyre not the ones running it. they wanted to be the jews. and now theyre getting rug-pulled as they find out it was all a psyop and they were being used by jews the entire time. christianity has served its function, its handed jews permenant power over the whole world, now its about enforcing worship of their god, which will require the bait and switch from Jesus (lit. "Yahweh is Salvation") to Yahweh
>>530022422Guess the religion of your forefathers, Mr. Australia. Take a wild guess on what their religion was, just go right ahead, and not even your immediate forefathers but your forefathers since 1700 years ago.
>>530011050Don't call me a pagan for praising the Allfather, you dumb mongoloid. The proper term is POLYTHEIST. Pagan means: ''meaningless religion of the country people''. It's a token jewish insult. Are you jewish?
>>530011050Believe it or not, but there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the Jews or the Tribe of Judah God’s chosen people. This misconception comes from the fact that the Jews of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah, as the Scriptures rightfully call them.https://web.archive.org/web/20220526080336/https://gottmituns.com/what-is-a-jew/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESNI-FvFyQThe Bible wasn't written by Jews. Moses was not from the Tribe of Judah, nor did he practice the Talmud, so he wasn't a Jew.
>>530022495druidism..
>>530022412Jews created the god of israel and wrote in a book. You faggots eat up their every lie.
>>530022495They were obviously christian? Their only failing was in not realizing that the well they drank from was poisoned. I don't blame them one iota, but in our generation we've discovered a fundamental flaw - lead, if you will. It is our duty to correct the mistake of our forefathers, not keep drinking the fucking swill.
>>530022375>no goy stop it jewish AI trained exclusively on jewish content is totally a good tool oy vey>you can cherrypick all you want, but this organization that has done everything in its power to defend, enable, and enrich jews throughout it's entire history is totally antisemitic goy>muh expulsion of jews from spainYeah that's easy. >spanish people want to kill jews>christkikes can't tolerate that>christkike church and government facilitate getting jews moved out of harms way before a real progrom can kick off>spread some of them back out through their other European enclaves >send the rest of them to the new world to count, manage, and bank all the gold stolen from the south americans, and manage the colonies>desperately pretend it was anything other than defending, enriching, and enabling jews.
>>530022499the irony is we had socrates and plato, they had "resist not evil" and "siri, create the 6000 year old flat earth", and they call us the pagans. classic jewish projection.
>>530022363>it'd be a LARPThe vast majority of Christians in America think we need to support the modern nation of Israel because of some blurb in Genesis.There's an argument to be made you're a Christian who DOESN'T support Israel. If larping just means heterodox, ahead-of-their-time beliefs.you worship a jew. know your place.
>>530022428>I've only argued in good faith goy oy vey>won't ecen be honest about where he's posting from>proceeds to lash out like a wounded jewYou couldn't be more jewish if you tried lmao
>>530011050Heh. So much LARP, so many anons. But honestly, you're all just turning the jewish/demonic/Abrahamic wheel over and over, finding new words or runes or meanings along the way. You have to leave that false divinity behind and accept the real thing, TRAVELER ANONS. Abrahamic religion? Fictional and limited! LGBT cultism and failure worship? Fake and GAY! Even wheelchair tranny Odin is but a theistic Eidolon, limited to the perspective of mortal men!>Revelations of SOL<(REDDIT spacing to create cope and seethe)1. SOLis the star that gives freely. Face of true divinity, God of light and life, and example of time and order from chaos. Our sun itself, under a common name. The provider of our environment, and enabler of our lives and existence continued.
>>530022147It's all part of the same decay and rot the imperial romans faced, that we now face for ourselves. What worries me now is not the present, it has already been written, what worries me now is the future at the mercy of the eastern hordes... we'll need a damn good religion and a damn good power structure to fend them off and to at least not live as the middle east did for the past 1000 years, I can't accept such humiliation.
>>530022592>>530022495Actually wait I didn't read your post properly and think about it, why the fuck did you baloon it out so far as to be 326 AD? Do you honestly think europe was Christianized by then?
>>530022550I cannot tell you what God is, I cannot tell you the mysterious nature of God. But I Can tell you that Jesus Christ KNEW God's plan. Jesus Christ KNEW God. He was the inbetween that gave the people what they need. AND THEY KILLED HIM
>>530022647*you're larping if you're a Christian who doesn't support Israel
These threads are always so low IQ that I have to sage and hide them. Literally just the eternal butthurt cults. I'll let you tards decide which groups I am referring to.
>>530018432>Odin supplanting Thor as the head god is a widely propagated theory but there isnt much evidence for it.I dunno man, Thor being analogous to Jupiter and Odin to Mercury is pretty damning
>>530022670You better hope your SOL is an analogy for the monad and neoplatonism because if you mean our star, well, I don't want to scare you, but he'll die in a few billion years and take you out with it.
>>530020922Because access to Indraloka is determined by karma, particularly a warriors karma. Don't get me wrong, non-Aryans dwelling among Aryans as they do now is a symptom of the Kali Yuga, but you have to understand what they are as a non-Aryan in the first place to understand what I'm talking about. They are of "lower births".
>>530017349>worshipping a Demiurge>name it god>impose imagined traditions as religion>doom the majority to material delusion
>>5300226702. Life as we know it appears to be either rare or unique in the known expanse of this relative dimension. Therefore the creation of not only the miracle of life, but the miracle of human consciousness within that first miracle are amazing accomplishments of creation and sustained Godhood. Life is precious, huamn life especially precious.3. Earth, sometimes personified as Mother Nature, formed under the weight and influence of SOL itself and appears to be the only local example of an environment capable of not only forming intelligent life but sustaining it on a reliable basis. It does so with the freely given gifts of light and warmth from SOL. (The filter or prism of mother nature turns light and warmth into life and consciousness)
>>530022647>because of some blurb in GenesisNot really. The support for israel comes from Revelation. In order for rabbi jesus to return, jews need to have israel and a global hegemon. What it actually translates to is total material and political support of israel and the safeguarding if jews until the literal end of days. Which will never come because the kike god isn't real. If christians still exist in 2000 years, they will still be serving jews trying to get jesus to return.
>>530022677christkikery taking over is what decayed the empire.>jews go from an actively hated and huntend enemy of the state to getting installed in positions of power>jews get a guaranteed, protected monopoly on the Roman/European financial system>women and foreigners empowered en-masse>forced acceptance of foreign subjects and non-subjects being elevated to equals with a sometimes equal say in the affairs of the empire
>>530011050>Anti war pinko, posts war god>Muh visions>FlagOh boy.
>>530022670>mfw venus is visible 5 times in the morning and 5 times in the evening>for 5 years visible >goes behind sun for 5 years>each point its visible in the sky draws a pentagram geometrically >365 earth days orbit >225 venus days orbit>golden ratio 1.6 name 1 thing the sun did
>>530022699Quite a few chunks of it were and odds are at least some of your forefathers were among those early European Christians, and, I don't want to insult you here, there also exist odds and probabilites a lesser part of those Christian forefathers were living in eastern provinces. And again with the odds, by that time barbarian-roman civilization clash was already in full effect and many germanics were already being romanized AS EARLY as Caesar's times, it's safe to assume many were already being syncretized into Christianity by then as many Romans were since its inception, they saw the Christian God as just another one of many gods.
>>530022750And your fictional larp character and his mortal written lore only exist as long as he has human mouths and hands work though. He exists elsewhere, and requires death for communion. I like living and life and existence, thanks bro. Praise SOL, whom EVERY human being sees and feels and experiences every day of their lives. No "trust me bro" required. Billions of years compared to 2k years of tradition is clearly much longer.
>>530022842>What it actually translates to is total material and political support of israel and the safeguarding if jews until the literal end of days. Which will never come because the kike god isn't real.If you ask me this has shown itself to be the true bane of protestantism, they need to fix it soon.
>>530022703You believe some rabbi who probably never existed was literally god. That promises he will return and provide paradise to his followers, but only after the jews totally control the world. I do not understand how smart and rational adults can believe this nonsense.
>>530022902You are not bothering to read what I addressed to you many times already so I am not going to respond. Actually read Rome's history and not Siege's Rome history and you'll see that all sorts of eastern thought were already into full effect even before Constantine (COUGH, SOL INVICTUS, COUGH, AN ANSWER TO EASTERN MONOTHEISM, COUGH.)
>>530022966 You are trying really really really really hard NOT to find true divinity, and I'm not sure why. It's literally right there. Why make it so complicated and fictional, anon?
>>530022966>name one thing the sun didEasy, I can name 5. >exist>emit heat>emit light>emit energy>drive jews back down into their tunnels
>>530022986I'm a pure bred euro mutt, but of the parts of me I know of, they weren't christianised until relatively later into the game. certainly not fucking 4th century ad, nigga. Come on now. You're acting like there weren't crusades against baltic pagans as late as after america was fucking founded.
>>530023001My "fictional character" is immortal and will outlive this existence of this physical mathematical reality and all others before this one and after this one, your star has an expiration date and not only that it isn't even the biggest baddest star out there. I mean I love the sun, I love it, it's undoubtedly divine but I mean... it's not immortal.
Imagine worshipping gods and systems of divinity that can be edited by Jews on Wikipedia at any time.No mortal has power over the work and gifts of SOL. And THAT'S what true divinity looks like.4. The earth beneath our feet, oxygen in the air, water in the ocean and moon in the sky above are all intrinsic and necessary parts of the environment that formed the miracles of life and consciousness, through SOL's work and influence. First came SOL, then earth, then life and humanity. Earth dependent on SOL, life and humanity dependent on SOL and Earth. Without SOL, mother nature would collapse and humanity would die an eternal death. Though it's gifts, we are given immortality through continued existence and family tree.
>>530023066>continues lying and projecting and hiding behind a jewish memeflag>still won't reply to any of my points in good faithShalom rabbi, you just keep proving my points for me lmao. I've got your nose and it's making you SEETHE
>>530020842You realize that there are other semitic groups other than isrealites, right? Abraham lived in Ur, he wasn't jewish. Modern Isrealis are not Semites, they're mostly slavic.>>530021378This anon knows what he's talking about. Catholicism assimilated so many pagan values, there used to be a time where shills would accuse Catholics of not being Christian, then the narrative changed.
>>530023131And are you baltic? is that what this is about? I am talking about the big players, germanics and latins, of course baltics and slavs were way later but the core of affairs remains back to rome and its roman-germanic dichotomy, and since it's Christianity we're talking about, it's pertinent to be in that time period and not later after all was said and done.
>>530023011Yep, You caught me. Its all just an elaborate scam to get you to go to Sunday school. and not be raised to be a menace to society. that you understand the people around you, that you follow god's plan and do his workYou found out the back door outNOW LEAVE, Idiot.
>>530022098(1/2)Ironic. You are a living argument against mass literacy: an effigy to the necessity of maintaining the esoteric/exoteric divide and an affront to all of the philosophers who compelled the old order to give up their watch and allow the masses to do as they please. I type the remainder of this post not for you, whose nose i suspect is has the curvature of an ornamental scimitar, but for your brethren who i pray might be saved from whatever repulsive sophistry has taken root in your bloated, rotting soul. Mankind's natural orientation is hedonistic and materialistic; the laity validate that which they see, seeking pleasure and shirking pain. Virtue, like [recognition of] truth, is profoundly unnatural and requires education to access.The intellectual foundation for the enlightenment was William of Ockham who succeeded in using Aristotelean logic do remove the king (the essential ethnic component of the Christian state) from the position of "anointed by god" and the pope from possessing supreme authority. An important thing to not is that this does NOT pertain to Orthodoxy hence why the greatest schism you see in the east is between Moscow and Constantinople, but I digress (and this is my hint to you if you desire to learn more about how to effectively attack/defend Christianity). Ockham's crypto-Aristotleanism effectively laid the intellectial groundwork for the reformation and the enlightenment—the former and latter coalesce to destroy the institutions of kingship/aristocracy (the ethnic component) and papal hierarchy; and they thereafter replaced them with positivism/empiricism, hedonism/utilitarianism, and liberal democratic populist representative regimes.
>>530023219>modern Isrealis are not Semites, they're mostly slavic.The leaf doesn't know that Jesus was from Galilee.
>>530021921I think you have a point about holding them to a level of piety that was atypical of the time, but I also think there's a reason why more or less every single orally kept religion has died out. European paganism was unable to survive for the same reason North American animalism died out and why East Asian religions are practically a footnote in the modern world. You can't argue a position that even you can't be absolutely certain is orthodox, and you can't be absolutely certain a position is orthodox if the insurance of said orthodoxy is essentially a game of telephone. There's a reason Christ is sometimes referred to as the embodiment of logos.
The Canadian is just ragebaiting us I propose we collectively stop replying to him, also I would like to remind OP about his protonmail.
>>530023219>Modern Isrealis are not Semites, they're mostly slavic.Ashkinazi are ~40 European ~60% Levant (jew)
>>530023075heres the pattern it draws as 1.6 fractal on a statue at cern >>530023111i do all of those things
>>530023219>abraham wasn't jewish goy>also these other jews aren't the jews goy>stop noticing they all believe in and practice the exact same shit they're totally different goy
>>530012199God/truth/Being comes first.>>530012501All beings are loved by God, and therefore we are called to show compassion and aid to all His children, even when they turn away from the truth.There is something deeply hollow about those who worship only their own creations. Their gods, myths, and ideas are merely reflections of themselves. A man might build his whole life around some Celtic deity, only to discover he is German and suddenly feel compelled to change which god he reveres. What kind of worship is that? In truth it is not worship at all, but self-adoration. Whatever you are becomes whatever you worship. It is tragic, though it makes sense. Part of man is the mechanism of Darwinian survival, the tribal and instinctive animal. But that is only the beastly element of man, not the whole of him. When worship is reduced to blood, tribe, and instinct, it collapses into animalism. And sadly, that is largely what places like /pol/ have become.
>>530023281(2/2)You, I assume, are some sort of national socialist Hitler sycophants for whom the function of Hitler contra Germany will appear equivalent to white noise so I shant waste my breath. But tell me: even by your estimation, modernity proves that without central ethical/epistemological authority, the masses will "devolve" (though in truth they have always even) degenerate hedonists actively antagonistic to education (similar to you).How do you maintain secularist ethical authority/non-epistemological relativism—let alone a systematized religion—without appealing to central authority (which you cannot maintain except via abstractions a la Rousseau)?Incidentally, everyone ITT should read all of Plato (Charmides to 7th Letter—I will permit you to skip Laws), commonly accepted Scholastic aristotlean corpus, plotinus, Augustine as a foundation. There can be no reconciliation without common intellectual foundation, and I am willing to refrain from subjecting you to theology. But you must read, for once
>>530023270>and not be raised to be a menace to society>morals and ethics didn't exist prior to jews creating Christianity >Christian niggers have great behavior Try harder, nigger.
>>530011050A LAST ALLIANCE OF THE CHRISTIAN MAN AND THE PAGANS
>>530023284>doesn't know that Jesus was from GalileeJfc here we go
>>530023269not baltic, no. but christanity is a metropolitan faith that didn't penetrate deep into the rural areas for centuries. and the rural folk are kinda like the ethnic reserve of europe. Regardless, accepting your assumption that that far back our forefathers were already christian, means nothing. As I said, they didn't notice the poison in the well. That's not their fault. They didn't have the tools and pressures back then that we do now. Now, we've discovered the poison. the question is what are you going to do about it?
>>530023141The thing is, as a mortal human being, you can *say* the word "immortal" or "forever"...but you and I both know the concepts we envision dont exactly scale with the meaning. The forever of our whole species is maybe a few million years, at longest. Billions of years is multitudes of multitudes longer than our deepest genetic memory. To us, it may as well be eternity. You slap empty words and a face on the visage of true divinity and larp as you go. It's ok though. Praise SOL, for it has existed for billions of years already and has been reliable for every day of the expanse. >>5300228154. The earth beneath our feet, oxygen in the air, water in the ocean and moon in the sky above are all intrinsic and necessary parts of the environment that formed the miracles of life and consciousness, through SOL's work and influence. First came SOL, then earth, then life and humanity. Earth dependent on SOL, life and humanity dependent on SOL and Earth. Without SOL, mother nature would collapse and humanity would die an eternal death.
>>530023356>from the whitest part of Israel>jews literally call him a Samaritan, he doesn't deny itDid you think that Jesus being portrayed as a white guy all through thousands of years of Christian art was an elaborate psyop
>>530023392>nooooooo>the term jew only came recently>so you can't say they were jews, they were a totally different group because naming conventions out rank genetics!
>>530022647fuck weimart >>530023294most major gods of language had other aspects to their pantheon, but christ is the language god that gave us the printing press. Even if the word Halo comes from Halogi >>530022098a fucking leaf
>>530023281>>530023428Refreshing effort-post. Shame most wont read it, since it isnt a simple ad hominum.
>>530023456Yep, You beat the system. You figured it all out. You got me so fucking good.I concede.
>>530023284He's not a leaf he's a stinkjeet. They rely on the stupidity of the posters here to compress all of history into a single moment. It's a scam, but they're not taking your money.>>530023356This is the claim they make but it's not true. Ashkenazim are Eastern European, there are Levantine Jewish groups. Also "Levantine" isn't synonymous with "Jewish.">>530023392>stop noticing they all believe in and practice the exact same shit they're totally different goyIt is impossible for Abraham to be a Jew, since Abraham predates Moses, and even Judah himself. Listen to Japanon open a book.
>>530023281>Mankind's natural orientation is hedonistic and materialistic; the laity validate that which they see, seeking pleasure and shirking pain. Virtue, like [recognition of] truth, is profoundly unnatural and requires education to access.I disagree with this fundamentally. Every culture, at least european, is capable of extolling virtues of honour, strength, honesty, integrity, etc. That every culture comes to the same basic values would tell me that these are values intrinsic to our natural orientation. You base your entire philosophy upon pagan thought, btw.
>>530023428Hello. While browsing through the noise in this thread I noticed some of the names you mentioned. They are the same thinkers I’ve been reading lately. I’ve begun to wonder whether Christ might be understood as the fulfillment of Aristotle and Plotinus. It’s difficult to find anyone to talk about these things with, since so few people seem interested in discussing them.
>>530023330>can't argue with anything I've said>doubles down on coping about it when lashing out didn't workI'm not rage baiting anyone, christkikes and jews are just so fucking stupid they enrage themselces in their spiral of duplicity and nonsense.>>530023284It doesn't matter where he was from, he was a direct descendant of a jewish royal bloodline who was raised and educated in jewish temples in jewish communities. >>530023281>u-u-ur anti-intellectual>tldr enlightenment bad because it took power away from the goldest goyims (temporarily)
>>530023428Also, ethnocentric morality solves this quandary.
>>530023607I agree, the japanese guy is one of the most aryan japanese I've ever seen and a westerner by all accounts, shows what could have been if Japan converted when God called them to it in the 16th century, or what could be if they converted now.
>>530011050>I CALL THEESo, your intended audience is just one person?
>>530012199All the people who locked me down, shot at me and wanted me dead and destroyed my life during covid were white. Race is dead
>>530023579The kike wasn't even portrayed until 300 years after he was supposedly crucified. The earliest portrayals have him brown. As kikes in those days were.
>>530023428I orated the entirety of the republic when I was last incarcerated , odd to find the aria of the soul in that tome. I dislike that he is against husband and wife for the guardian caste. I believe that the common oral recitations of plato's republic and his passages about a coming philosopher king are why many greeks chose to follow jesus. I also believe Jesus quotes the rites of tyr and odin, despite history stating those myths are a thousand years younger. I recommend mark twain's book on joan of arc JP anon . Especially the first chapter.
>>530023699I do understand Him that way, as the fulfillment of Indo European-Hellenic thought. Although, I see Plotinus more in line with the heterodox gnostic line of thought inside westerndom, which doesn't bother me.
>>530023456Uh yeah, Everything is under control. Situation Normal, Uh and a seeing through the matrix, but uh everything's perfectly alright now. were fine. were all fine here, now. How are you?
>>530023598>coping about my geographic location because you can't argue with my post>jewish memeflagCute cope rabbi>>530023675>he's not a Canadian he's a boogeyman relying on us being too stupid to actually argue wirh what he saidNice cope lmao hoky shit>it's not possible for abraham to be jewish>even though all of this schizophrenic garbage descended from his ramblings doesn't mean it counts
>>530023675Nigger, they have J1 and J2 haplogroups. Other groups in the Levant have this, but it's much higher in fucking jews.
>>530023754Bros a fucking expat posting with a jap IP, what are you smoking? they have their own functional ethnic faith, why the fuck would they ever convert if not by force?
>>530023676Not really. Plotinus and Aristotle did not buy into the traditional pantheon of gods. Aristotle speaks of God multiple times, but what both he and Plotinus lacked in their philosophical conception was the idea that the One actually loves us. Their vision is closer to something like the Tao, a principle that is ultimate but largely indifferent. What emerges with Christ, especially through the later fusion with Neoplatonism, is something different: a vision in which we are the children of God. That intimacy is unique.
>>530023579>Did you think that Jesus being portrayed as a white guyJesus is protrayed as Cesare Borgia you fucking uneducated jew worshipping retards and it is historical fact that your longhaired blueyed white Jesus first appeared due to Borgias runing Papal State and was based on Cesare Borgia.One of the oldest realistic paintings of Jesus is 6th century Pantocrator and he looks semitic with brown eyes. Paintings before that had him swarthy.
>>530023843The jews you know today are turks that migrated into Israel and we wuzzed their way to prominence.
>>530023905>Not really >Aristotle 384–322 BCPagan.
>>530023883>>530023699>>530023428so there are four of us here. It sounds like I have read less plato than you three.
>>530023553I am not slapping empty words anywhere you're simply unable to look past beyond the sun and believe me, when this humanity collapses and a new one is born, they will look beyond the sun and go beyond it. I am not saying you're wrong for praising the sun, we've been there with Akhenathen and Aurelian and they've been hyper goated, it's a sensible thing and an approach to the true truth, but it is a symbol, a form, an element of the whole, God, Monad, you know the One, it is a form of it before our eyes, and it is beautiful, but it's not it, since the sun will end.God's face, as a matter of fact, is like the sun, and it is full of child-like joy, but it is the face, and like any bright star at night.
>>530023883I’m not really a fan of Gnosticism. The problem of evil, to me, is better understood through something like the Tao’s river metaphor. If God is Being and truth, then He is the river itself. With free will, we can choose to swim with the current or against it. In that sense, sin emerges from the freedom to resist the flow of truth.That said, I’ll admit I’ve mostly only read about Manichaeism, so there’s probably more nuance I’m missing. I’m also not very concerned with denominations. What interests me more is the idea of Christ as a kind of exchange between (B)eing and (b)eing, a meeting point where the divine and the human encounter one another.
>>530023896Which "ramblings" are these? Abraham didn't leave behind a large corpus of writings or speeches, that would be Moses. Abraham is seen as a patriarch or spiritual ancestor, not a lawgiver. You claims to hate Judaism and Christianity, but it seems you don't know much about either of them.>>530023902Which jews are these? Certainly not Asheknazim that are descended from Slavs and Turks. Those have single-digit semite admixture.
>>530023754Get a life memeflag. It amazes me that people still try and get taken seriously with memeflags on. Just drop it and try again.
>>530023994The kikes I know today were crushed by Rome and scattered deep into Europe for centuries after Christianity was adopted. Where they stole European genetics and subverted the entire continent. Now the have almost total dominance over the world plus Israel with the aid of the christian golems.
>>530023704Just to note - Samaritans were Jews. But converts with some of their own culture kept over Judaism. This is why other Jews hated them.
I'll continue to pray to Thor and eat horse meat and refuse to be a noahide shabbos goy. Hope that helps.
>>530023904I guarantee you that at least the more civilized of indo europeans and mesoamericans converted by rationale and not by force, only those who choose force win or fall by force. I know I can't change your mind but trust me native peoples in their state of nature are capable of seeing these things on their own.
>>530023905This, just like Julian the Apostate, read his final words he speaks of The One, he was far removed of the original civic greco roman pagan religion. Like the japanese guy said, it's easy as reading these things from their direct source and not from Siege or something.
>>530023996What we’re talking about is metaphysics within a philosophical system. Nobody was sacrificing to “the One.” When people say pagan, they usually mean participation in a religious cult or pantheon. Aristotle wasn’t doing that philosophically. He was conceptualizing God as the Prime Mover, which is an ontological principle, not a mythological deity.
>>530023405While you're correct about God encompassing all, he also set the nations apart. The mixing of nations and races violates the cosmic order that God, in this case acting as Enki/Varuna/Ahura Mazda, maintains. Read "Enki and the World Order".
>>530024208>Literally waged holy war defiling and destroying pagan idols all while being funded by corrupt elites and kikes to do so>"I guarantee you that at least the more civilized of indo europeans and mesoamericans converted by rationale and not by force"So you're just insane then.Also truth be told it was neither rational nor force, but subversion as is the true jewish way. They basically syncretised using a combination of hard and soft force. It's the only reason I don't have as many bones to pick with catholicism since it's essentially pagan. They validated native european spirituality by incorporating it. they just made up a whole lot of shit, and when those who didn't want to be subsumed opted out they wrecked their shit to show an example to the rest.
>>530024105I somewhat agree with the first point, I guess that to me it's also some aspects of gnosticism that interest me, I am in some kind of strange syncretic point between my Catholicism and gnosticism, but that is not worth going into here. I guess that to me it's what you said + the gnostic aspect of being in a lower form of plane where evil is just a thing, whereas if we were in God's realm, it wouldn't be possible at all since we would see the truth and not feel bad.
>>530024363Yes, another way to say it is that it would be like mixing all the colors on a painter’s palette together. In doing so you lose the diversity and beauty that come from differentiation. Everything collapses into the same dull shade.
>>530024056Yeah I love Plato, more so than Aristotle, I've always been Platonic for everything, particularly his cave allegory and his "world of ideas" thesis, which is where I mainly connect with things like gnosticism. Honestly I would love to have you guys in a chat plus OP, I need to gather the great minds of pol.
>>530024324Yeah sure, but you take pre-christian thought and then pretend the logos can only survive in Christ. that's retarded. It originated in us it lives in us. And an ontological prime mover does nothing to explain our relation to the natural world. The gods do. Aristotle didn't deny the gods.
>>530024385I've read the sources, I already addressed it, romanized germanics they absorbed it on their own and not by force entirely, but that matters little since everything I say to you will just be kike this kike that. Just keep doing your own research man I don't think you'll be pleased talking to me here.
>>530024504The old gods represent the phenomenon we must face in our experience as (b)eings. Christ represents the word of (B)eing. This is how I hold both the pagan and christian in my heart. Even if we disagree, thank you for at least engaging me honestly.
>>530023405>A man might build his whole life around some Celtic deity, only to discover he is German and suddenly feel compelled to change which god he reveres. What kind of worship is that?This spiritual disorder only exists because of worldly disorder. In an ordered world, this disorder wouldn't exist. I.e. a German man would be amongst Germans and worship German gods. In no way does this invalidate anything, really.
>>530024572I literally already said that Christianity was metropolitan, but the rural stock were not, why did you ignore this point?
>>530024666It still leads to a form of self-worship. What we ought to worship instead is Being and truth, which stand beyond the limits of any particular genetic cluster.
>>530024420i also find alot of overlap between the idea of the world of forms and memetics . The post chaos magick 90s cyberpunk work on memetics is quite good. Cyborg Anthropology.
>>530024655>Thank you for at least engaging me honestly.I'm only ever honest when it comes to these things, why in the flying fuck do you use ARISTOTLE to rationalist CHRIST?! Nigger you might as well be Zoroastrian. At least that's Indo-Aryan. I get it, the weight of millenia of European thought should never be put aside lightly or perhaps even at all, but when we already sit at the shoulders of giants and our horizons seen nothing but ruin in their wake, why the flying fuck would you go "yup, desert kike it is" I just cannot comprehend...>>530024783The self, Being and truth are inseparable.
>>530011050xstians are the ultimate golem faggots
>>530024708Still born from hellenic platonic thought, are you going to invalidate that just based on the usual metropolitan argument? I mean fair but the eastern cities were pretty much greek extensions, and some of those could have still been your ancestors are you going to disown them for that? in case they were there?
>>530024128>which ramblings are theseThe ramblings where he taught his children about the singular god he claimed he saw in a vision when he was having a schizophrenic episode trying to kill his own son. The schizophrenic (evenrually jewish) god ramblings all the christkike, catholikike, jewish, and muslim sects descend from. >>530024138The fact remains, the whole "those jews aren't the REAL jews" argument is a terrible cope, and outright lie. They all still believe in and practice a lot of the same jewish shit.
>>530024848We use Aristotle because he belongs to the Socratic school and even Socrates was talking about the "one god", if we are to believe Plato.
>>530024848Just trust me ok? Just as much as i am sure you believe the jew is evil, you will come to see the truth in christ. I don't want to worship something because its a reflection of me. I want to worship "is". I can tell by the way you write you are intelligent and not a shill. You sound like me a few years ago. Not that I'm any better than you, or that i cant learn from what you say. But the reason you can not comprehend me is because you are seeing the thing from the wrong perspective.In short, because i have to get back to work: the failure in your logic is that you put a things genealogy as more important than a things essense.
>>530024873>Still born from hellenic platonic thoughtChristianity quite explicitly was not. It coopted hellenic platonic thought as a vehicle and has undergone more fracture and schism than any religion to date because of it. If your shit fucking breaks 109 times, it's not the people at fault.>DisownI do not disown my blood for anything. If there are wrongs I will try my best to right them and thus bring honour upon them.
>>530025032>In short, because i have to get back to work: the failure in your logic is that you put a things genealogy as more important than a things essense.Then this is an existential divide between you and I, because a things origin is its essence - this I believe whole heartedly.
>>530025173Then you are no more than primordial ooze. Cmon man. Ive got your back. Im not here to win an arguement, i just want you to see what i see.
The greatest man alive is a pagan (non-abraham worshipper). Xi is a pagan
>>530025032>you put a things geneology as more important than it's essenseThe failure in your logic is that you're ignoring the fact a things geneology is a core part of what they are, it IS part of their "essence" A dog isn't a dog because god made it that way 7000 years ago and promised it to jews 3000 ago. A dog is a dog because it spent millions of years evolving down the canine lines, and it's evolutionary path lead to it's optimal survival strategy being forming/joining packs with humans and eventually changing to suit what we needed from them.
>>530025173A thing's origin is merely a phase of its essence, not the whole in itself, which is the thing in its current state. For example, 4 is the half of 8, is 8 4? no, 8 is 8, but is fundamentally made of 4. Is a chair wood? it is fundamentally made of wood, but it is not wood per se, it's a chair, and we call it a chair because it is a chair and it is made to be sat on. A log of wood you sit on is not a chair, it's wood, it was cut from a tree, but is it a tree? no, it's a log of wood that you're sitting on, and that doesn't make it a chair either. The same applies to you, to Christianity, to Indo European thought. Are you your father? no, you're from your father, but you are you.All of this is in Plato and Socrates.
>>530025281That is the thing, it appears to me he is just out here to prove himself and not to see any new truth.
>>530025281I respect the allure of worshiping what "Is" what you've done however, is taken some one else's "Is" for your own. You cannot be anything other than what you are, and what you are is where you came from. No denial will unmake this fact, you are something, that was begotten from something else. I personally find worshipping what "Is" to be fundamentally schizophrenic and pointless and it's the least human abstraction of existence humanly possible. The gods matter more to me as conduits between me, my ancestry and the natural world. I can happily admit to a higher cosmological principle, and while it deserves understanding - our own gods sought to under stand it - it does not deserve worship. And our understanding of this force is innately selfish.The eyes are yours, you cannot take some one else's eyes to understand reality. You will only get lost. I sincerely hope you find spiritual fulfillment, but I know that you will not, so long as you strive to see through the eyes of another. Wearing Hellenistic glasses won't change that.
>>530025498>jewish fairytales>the truth
>>530011050FUCK OFF ODIN KEKWe're going to outlaw your fake gay black satanic magic
>>530025544Based thread. Good readsLess threads where white men ridicule and scorn one another over theology.
>>530025472I don't disagree with this in essense. 8 may be 4 and 4 but it is still essentially 8, but it cannot deny that it is also 2 4s, this is its essence. You are 8, jews are 7. We may all be 1s, but we can only make each other like ourselves if we are 56 - this is inherently less stable. You cannot separate essence from origin. A chair can be made from stone, but only we will make chairs a certain way regardless of the material.
>>530025633>Aryanthe christcuck fancies himself a high caste pajeet, so devoid is he to his familial culture and heritage. basically a jew, without the circumcision
>>530025544No man, I haven’t taken someone else’s “is.” I’m after the **“is” that encompasses all of us**. Sacred truths can be found in many variants of myth. I’m not an ancient Greek, yet I can still see the truth in their search for the “is.” I’m gathering insights about the “is” from wherever they appear, trying to guide myself with both reason and heart.And you still haven’t addressed my point about primordial ooze. Are you not simply the first replicator carried forward? Are you only chemistry? Is there no “I am” behind those eyes? If we are nothing more than what we come from, then every child born of rape would be a rapist. It would be fair to say that we have capabilities contingent on our genetics, that there are inheritances that shape us. I don’t reject that.To honor your ancestors is beautiful. But brother, you still aren’t seeing the matter from my perspective.
