Where is your German Pride??? Where is your sense of peoplehood and community? You are so self-hating or apathetic that is hurts!
>>530012365You killed over 8 million Germans, 200k of them kids, You raped over 2M German women and girls, you kicked over 12 million Germans out of their ancestoral homes
>>530012451Thanks bot.
>>530012365Being prideful has gotten me nowhere in life. I'm not proud of being White. I don't think anyone should be proud of their race, whether they Black, Jewish, Asian, whatever. You can be grateful for the accomplishments and the struggles of your ancestors without being proud.Maybe we actually generally agree, and I'm just arguing semantics. Idk.
>>530012451German-Americans and European-Americans in general are like rabid dogs. They sided with Jews and the Eurasian communist horde instead of their ancestral homeland Europe.
>>530012672Is he wrong?
>>530012862Pride has a lot of dimensions, not all of them selfish
>>530012862You are confusing homophones. I am not talking about hubris. You are probably a disingenuous kike though.
>>530013685Pride and hubris are not homophones...>>530013502Fair enough. I doubt anyone here is a self-hating white though so idk what you're even trying to accomplish with this thread. Some sort of remoralization campaign? That's nice, I guess.
There are no more Germans.All of their women were raped and impregnated by Russians.They're all half-Russian.Imagine those German pussies cumming hard on Russian cocks.The intense pleasure.The sticky cum sprays.The belly growing for 9 months.A new race of people emerges.And what did those half-Russian/half-German women do when they grew up?They spread their legs wide for American men.
>>530013995The appropriate sentiment is something more like feeling a sense of gratitude and obligation to your forebears, and a feeling of love towards and connection to them, that inspires you to continue the story or project they embarked upon. I think the problem might be that this clashes with certain notions of masculinity and individualism, in that the aforementioned sentiments might come across as submissive, constraining, or even feminine. Inculcating "pride" sort of solves this by reframing it as something that confers strength and confidence
>>530014970That makes sense, but it still feels kind of hollow since that form of "pride" doesn't really make you any money. The more masculine/individualistic conception of "pride" is more based on personal accomplishments, e.g. "I made X amount of money, I can lift X amount of weight, I have X number of children", etc.I don't know if White Nationalism will ever grow beyond reactionary politics, because it always asks more of you than it gives you when it's not used as a defense mechanism. WNism is only useful tactically, not strategically.
>>530015523>that form of "pride" doesn't really make you any moneymy man you are jewer than the jewest jew
>>530015687If you can't make a political movement profitable for individuals who need to put food on the table and raise families then the only people you'll attract are useless bums and losers. I have tried doing IRL political activism. It never did anything good for me. I have tried starting businesses with public-facing political branding/utility. They never made me any money. Politics, especially identity politics is poisonous and it's an issue that has never been addressed or breached. I don't think it's even possible.All of this... shit... it gets you nowhere. The ball never gets rolling. You think you change minds because there are no statistics. You think you start things, make popular memes, whatever. It's all just a result of people having the same ideas at the same times because they witnessed the same events. None of it is original. None of it is profitable. The few who do profit, the political grifters, just talk. They never take action. They never help anyone who they ostensibly stand for. They are contrarian entertainers. They are not politically serious. They are only serious about their own success. Do you understand how fucked up that is? To willfully push rhetoric on people that you know does not help them or improve their lives in any way, just so that you can make a quick buck, all while pretending to care? None of these people are ignorant of this. It's all incredibly self-conscious and deliberate. Over the years the longer I've been in dissident right political spheres, the more I've grown to hate it.It is a distraction. That's all it is. A distraction.Your mind may try to over-intellectualize this. You will use the sunk-cost fallacy to justify doubling-down. "Maybe I really am I political guy! Maybe I can just become a grifter too!" Nope. Stop fucking yourself over and just move on. You got played like every other "sensitive young man" did because you were a gullible teenager with big ideas and no experience.Yes I'm projecting.
>>530015523Well, any kind of collective effort is always going to have that (at least perceived) tension between parasites and producers. But it's also undeniable that a formless grouping of individuals will tend to get outcompeted and dominated by a group that doesn't have the same scruples about working together. So if anything I'd reverse your assertion in that it's strategically beneficial for each member of the group even if, in the day to day life of the individual, it can feel at times like a tactical waste of their time or drain on their resources
Not one German in this thread.
>>530012365They unironically believe that the holocaust happened and have been browbeat about it by their ZOG occupiers for 80+ years
>>530013098You're right, this single anon killed millions of people.
>>530012365We beat them. They are submissive and feminized. They cursed Israel and in turn were cursed.
>>530012862>I'm not proud of being WhiteThat doesn't stop any group you listed from being proud of who they are. Asians are generally pretty insular and have their own ways of perceiving life and their station in it. Jews are simultaneously elitist and vile for the most part, despite abiding by a universalist religion (just look at a group of Israelis) and generally hate non-jewish Whites because of their eschatological beliefs. Blacks are notorious opportunists, and will take every chance they can get to take advantage of your naivete for access to your society and the mutualist ethics they produce, and the fruits of your labor. This won't change just because you want it to. You're just an idealist with thoughts that have no basis in reality. The moment Whites and broader Western people abandoned their cultural myths, sense of exclusivity, and stopped playing to their own strengths, was the moment fate was sealed, possibly forever. You can chalk this up to taking on Christianity, the fallout of WWI and WWII, or post-enlightenment idealism. Put the blame wherever, but it'll be easier for you to accept it. Nearly every group has a problem with you if you're White and you only want to live, be around, labor with, and exist only with White people, because it threatens their access to you, what you make or maintain, and your women and children.
>>530016686People will always innately judge each other based on individual actions and accomplishments. In interpersonal relationships, the identity politics stuff doesn't help at all. In the real world your project portfolio, resume, certifications, experience in the field, net worth, notoriety, etc, all trump your innate biological characteristics. There are a lot of useless "geniuses" out there that are impossible to work with. There are a lot of criminal, retarded Chads out there too.Even the most hardcore White Nationalists are forced to contend with this. They try over and over again to be gracious and accommodating to mediocre, maladaptive Whites, before they inevitably realize that competency and stability matters above all else for organizational success and have to "cut the fat".Race is a good statistical predictor for various things, sure. But it's only ever really accurate when you're dealing with huge swathes of people. White Nationalism has the disease of treating individuals as if they're averages of their group, when in fact literally NOBODY is average at all. Average men are imaginary. They only exist as an data aggregate. They aren't real.
>>530012365>posts blatant government propaganda that caused millions of Germans dieYou are american, you are only allowed to post "american dream", so i can laugh at you being fat and stupid.
>>530017601Even comparatively mediocre people can still contribute usefully to a collective project. The real issue is when individualism predominates in the demographic to the degree that there's really no organized collective project at all, so the efforts you make to that end are just throwing time and resources into a black hole (that is, supporting others who don't reciprocate it, to you or to other members of the group). Which, in the case of white nationalism, is an engineered outcome - the organization which would solve that problem is obsessively suppressed and stigmatized
>kills germany>makes sure it stays down>wHy iS GErManY So WEaK U gUisE????
>>530017433>That doesn't stop any group you listed from being proud of who they are.I'm not overly concerned with the amount of "pride" any other group has because I know it doesn't profit them either.>This won't change just because you want it to. You're just an idealist with thoughts that have no basis in reality.I understand perfectly well what cultural/group sentiments the various races and ethnicities harbor. I'm not trying to say that they should change their ways, I'm saying they are irrelevant and have basically no basis in experienced reality. Again, I'm trying to make it extremely clear to draw the distinction between statistical reality and experienced reality. They are both equally real, but political ideologues can't account for the latter.>You can chalk this up to taking on Christianity, the fallout of WWI and WWII, or post-enlightenment idealism. Put the blame wherever, but it'll be easier for you to accept it.I don't think White people are under much threat at all actually. Statistically our populations have not dwindled, it's just the proportions that have been fucked with. "White Genocide" is not real. "White Replacement" is closer to being accurate, but even that is questionable. There's nothing inherently stopping Whites from having children and reproducing at scale in experienced reality. It's just a matter of personal agency. Attributing a lack of statistical progress in this area to "systemic issues" is a mistake because it reduces personal agency.>Nearly every group has a problem with you if you're White and you only want to live, be around, labor with, and exist only with White people, because it threatens their access to you, what you make or maintain, and your women and children.I want the whole world to purchase my goods and services. I don't want my market limited to just White people. I will always have less to gain serving one group in particular than all groups, even if the former would pay/offer more.
>>530018655>I'm not overly concerned with the amount of "pride" any other group has because I know it doesn't profit them either.There are plenty of other ethnic groups that verifiably profit strongly from practicing ethnocentrism>I want the whole world to purchase my goods and services. I don't want my market limited to just White people. I will always have less to gain serving one group in particular than all groups, even if the former would pay/offer more.Ethnocentric cooperation does not preclude you from selling wares to other ethne
>>530018306>Even comparatively mediocre people can still contribute usefully to a collective project. Not really in any organizational, productive context. The best they can offer is their opinions (votes) and attention.>individualism predominates in the demographic to the degree that there's really no organized collective project at all, so the efforts you make to that end are just throwing time and resources into a black hole.Getting attention and votes from Whites is something that has been accomplished plenty of times before. It's happening constantly right now. What doesn't really exist is having that "energy" channeled anywhere in a way results in their individual experienced realities tangibly improving.Let me give you an example. Let's say that the fertility rates are considered one of the biggest issues WNs face. Why haven't they worked towards advancing fertility technologies, or at least promoting them? If the goal is really to increase the White population globally, you'd expect every WN to be pushing IVF, sperm and egg donations, professional surrogacy, artificial womb technology, etc. And yet it doesn't happen.It's a lack of seriousness and personal agency. 95% of White Nationalists who seriously consider these things as options will simply conclude at the end of the day: "Oh, I guess I'm just not really ready for children. I like my current lifestyle. I don't really want dozens or hundreds of kids." They aren't serious. They just want to engage in dissatisfied political rhetoric. If you handed them exactly what they wanted on a silver platter they'd spit on it.
>>530014060Seek help
>>530019204>There are plenty of other ethnic groups that verifiably profit strongly from practicing ethnocentrismEvery race practices nepotism/ethnocentrism in different ways. White people as a whole are statistically far less likely to racemix than most other groups, for example. The Amish control the animal breeding industry and have a shit ton of real estate and farming output.Sure, Jews might have a PROPORTIONALLY outsized amount of leverage due to media and financial influence, but in raw statistical terms Whites as a whole are still quite competitive in these areas.>Ethnocentric cooperation does not preclude you from selling wares to other ethneIt does, or theoretically should, actually. Hitler did exactly this to Germany's economy. Segregationists in America did exactly this.
>>530012365>Where is your German Pride???It was destroyed. Your kike overlords wanted to prevent Germany from ever becoming a super power ever again, and they succeeded.Have fun dying for Israel.
>>530019471>If the goal is really to increase the White population globally, you'd expect every WN to be pushing IVF, sperm and egg donations, professional surrogacy, artificial womb technology, etc.Well that's just the thing: how do you construct some kind of organized white fertility-promoting apparatus that could actually achieve results, when an army of lawyers, "activists", hostile media attention, and likely government intervention would dogpile everyone involved the moment they tried to get it off the ground? Doing these things at scale is beyond the capacity of any one individual, but the organization required to overcome that is, again, obsessively suppressed.>It does, or theoretically should, actually. Hitler did exactly this to Germany's economy. Segregationists in America did exactly this.And yet China, which is de facto a Han ethnostate, dominates world manufacturing, and Israel, which is more or less an explicit fascist ethnostate, sells all manner of military and information technology abroad.
>>530020223Please come back we need you
>>530020351>how do you construct some kind of organized white fertility-promoting apparatus, when an army of lawyers, "activists", hostile media attention, and likely government intervention would dogpile everyone involved the moment they tried to get it off the ground?Easy, you don't brand it as being for Whites only. Technology is inherently accessible to everyone by default anyways. It's first world countries (Whites and Asians) that have fertility issues. Other groups don't need it as much.
>>530018655>There's nothing inherently stopping Whites from having children and reproducing at scale in experienced reality. It's just a matter of personal agency. Attributing a lack of statistical progress in this area to "systemic issues" is a mistake because it reduces personal agency.Not exactly correct. There's insane amounts of money being poured into brainwashing(mostly aimed at white women) be it movies, news channels, 'harmless' TV ads featuring white women exclusively with niggers, and so on.Add to this the fact that post george floyd only ~6% of new corporate hires went to white men(women are naturally hypergamous so there's few ways to crash the birth rates of a group easier than by attacking the financial power of their men) and the picture is getting even more clear.Just because the government isn't literally preventing whites from having kids at gunpoint doesn't mean that it's not happening. Plausible deniability is a very useful tool.
>>530021206>There's insane amounts of money being poured into brainwashing(mostly aimed at white women) be it movies, news channels, 'harmless' TV ads featuring white women exclusively with niggers, and so on.This doesn't work. It never has.>Plausible deniability is a very useful tool.If it's plausibly deniable it can be overcome.
>>530012365Cry more you porn masturbating vaccinated zoomer fucking faggotGo play more Skyrim, consumer
>>530012365>Where is your German Pride??It was stolen and destroyed since childhood by Jews just like your foreskin.
>>530021371>If it's plausibly deniable it can be overcome.I'd argue the opposite. Since many years, the next generation is always browner and dumber, and this was achieved through plausibly deniable means. Slowly boiling the frog and all that.Why would they risk open war with the majority of the population if it's not even required to fulfil their goals? They'll only scream it on stadiums like in South Africa when whites will be <10%.
>>530012365All the brave ones died in ww2
