>all the pretty pictures you see are of aristocratic buildings>peasantry was rough in the roman times>forced to work a 9-5 on a diet of porridge and breadVersus Anglo-Saxon/Germanic times:>everyone lived in close-knit villages>you got to own land with livestock>caloric intake actually increased post-roman times
Germanics ruined the world, killing rome wasn't worth it.
An actual slave in Roman empire was more free and wealthy than us currently. A couple sestartii and you could start a market booth if the local government doesn't hate you. Now it's a billion red tapes to get thru. I think of the Roman empire every day, bros...
>>530034317western civilization is germanic civilization.you want to see what roman heritage looks like without germanic influence, look no further than my shithole.
Rome was peak civilization
Do you guys also fantasize about going back and teaching them antibiotics, alloys, manufacturing, and what could have been?
>>530034317It was more that Rome very early on abandoned the usual tactic of expand, expel and colonise, in favor of a much more rapid method of expand, incorporate and tax. Due to this the Roman as a people is extinct, it was the original globohomo, despite all the good that has come of the empire. Not that I want to larp as "return to ye olde thatch roof woodhut and shit in a ditch"
>>530034590I would unironically show them that steam powered engines were worth exploring
>>530034519kek retard
>>530034257Romans conquered your people, get over it angloid.
>>530034590I would introduce them to rocketry concepts. I wouldn't show to them every aspect of the Saturn V, but I would explain them the Tsiolkovsky equation and the true scale of the solar system. Imagine how advanced we would be today.
>>530034590You don't speak latin, or old greek, hell the germanic languages and the slavic languages will be alien to you. You've got a long trip to Rome from modern day Poland, how are you going to survive being unable to properly communicate, having no currency or awareness of the lay of the land? It's a nice fantasy though>>530034769How the fuck are you going to cross the atlantic ocean in the BC times? Even humoring the fancy teleporter feature of your time machine. How will you gain access to these people in power or positions of information that you wish to teach?
>>530035210I mean archemedes only had designs and they spread. I guess I'd just try to connect with him thru some Greek goy
>>530034257>roman times>forced to work a 9-5
>>530035210I know a little bit of both, conveying complex concepts would be rather impossible though. And i'm guessing the latin in our textbooks is not what the common prole actually spoke. I'm more curious about the alternative history, if the tech would help them survive for another millenium, or if it would just be the same Four Emperors shitshow, but with guns.
>>530034590>>530034769>>530035080
>>530035367Archimedes had connections. You do not. You don't speak ancient greek either. Also the greek had devised steam engines, were aware of electricity. But knowledge of a thing does not itself mean much. They did not have the infrastructure or production to actually make sensible use of it, and setting that up takes a lot of capital. A huge risk. But I'd like to be wrong, just imagine ancient greek aesthetic steamboats strolling up the dalmatian ocean in 200AD. Glorious
>>530035528You'll forgive my autism, couldn't help it. That is an interesting question though
>>530035080>but I would explain them the Tsiolkovsky equationhow the fuck does this help them? they have no gunpowder, no way to manufacture any components like the fuel pump, turbine etc, or even just make it structurally not fall apart as soon as its ignited. was rocket equations the last thing you studied at school and now you think it's something important?
>>530035671Who cares, if not I'll just live in a barrel
>>530034590this is every isekai ever
>>530034317If Rome were truly a worthy empire, the Germanic tribes wouldn't have been able to beat them in the first place.Worshipping, idealizing or romanticizing fallen empires is retarded and reinforces a culture of failure. It reinforces a culture of failure because you are holding up the ones who failed as the peak of your civilization, values, culture and race. Do not celebrate the failures, celebrate the ones who were strong enough to survive.
TRUTH NUKEGRAIN NIGGERS BTFO
>>530034437Not to mention women were submissive, knew their place and put out unlike the frivolous shopping obsessed, feminazi shrews of today, and families were large.
>>530034257OP’s ancestors weren’t Equestrian class… lol
>>530036369Rome fell because it rotted from within.And there's nothing wrong about admiring past civilizations.What sucks is that those who learn from history and the mistakes of the past are never in power
>>530034257The worst is it was totally accepted to sodomize young boys for a man.
>>530034257Roman lower classes actually had a pretty good diet for the era. Plus the wheat they ate back then is not the same wheat we eat today. That wheat had lots of protein and basically all of the vitamins and minerals you needed to survive. Which was why peasants back then often consumed a lot of bread. It filled you up and gave you everything your body required. Compare that to bread today which has zero protein, has to be "enriched", all because it is genetically modified slop, and our diet is actually less healthy than theirs. The only glaringly bad thing they ate was garum, because they had no concept of their fish sauce giving them parasites.
>>530036675A practice the catholic church promptly kept going forever.
>>530034257I find your lack of faith disturbing.
>>530036726Lies. Even today with the absolute state of the church when such things happen priests are excomunicated.
>>530036621Rome fell for a variety of reasons, not least of which is religion. Rome, as an idea, was a militaristic expansionist aristocratic state who predicated its existence upon the virtue of Rome itself. "Why are we doing this? Because Rome is better!" And with a jewish egalitarian universalist religion, all of those pillars were undermined. People no longer valued Rome, they valued eastern esotericism. Which is why the armies fell apart, as well as loyalty to the state. Read Gibbons.
>>530034257>you got to own land with livestockWhat do you mean got to? You had to or you'd fucking die. Tons of people who had both did die.
>>530036798It's lies to call it lies. This was a problem 1000 years ago, to the point there were even books written about it back then. Bishops could have penned tomes on the Vikings or the Magyar, but instead wrote books about industrial child rape within the church, which tells you which one was the bigger problem.
>>530036621>Rome fell because it rotted from within.This doesn't counter my point. In fact, it further proves my point. If a civilization rots from within, that only shows that its people were of poor character and deserve to be swept away into the dustbin of history.
>>530034437NOOOOOOO IF YOU WERE A PEASANT YOU WERE A 24/7 SLAVE TO THE LORD!!!!>you realize taxes then were like a 1/50th of today right?NOOOOOO GOLD HAS STAYED THE SAME FOREVER AND THEY ROBBED YOU INTO DIRT POVERTY!!!>you realize all the statues were painted right?NOOOOOO EVERYONE WAS DIRTY AND DISEASED!!!!>you realize the plague existed because of a woman in turkey in 800AD?NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>530036904>It was a problemThis is the key word. This is against the doctrine and punished meanwhile in Rome it was almost a rite of passage.
>>530036950>you realize all the statues were painted right?I hate this
>>530036675You're confusing your country. In ancient Rome, largely because slavery was legal, an adult could sodomize his slaves (both women and men), but it wasn't socially acceptable the way you understand it. Anyone who took it up the ass was considered degraded and unmanly and even fined by the Lex Scantinia.
>>530037114>sodomy is fine as long as you aren't the sodomizedThanks God we evolved.
>>530037114rare wtf, I didn't know there was a country inside of italy
60 THOUSAND DEAD ROMANS 60 ᛏᚺᛟᚢᛊᚨᚾᛞ ᛞᛖᚨᛞ ᚱᛟᛗᚨᚾᛊ ROMAN DEFEAT AT TEUTOBURGER FOREST ᚱᛟᛗᚨᚾ ᛞᛖᚠᛖᚨᛏ ᚨᛏ ᛏᛖᚢᛏᛟᛒᚢᚱᚷᛖᚱ ᚠᛟᚱᛖᛊᛏ VISIGOTH SACK OF ROME FIRST TIME IN 800 YEARS ᚢᛁᛊᛁᚷᛟᛏᚺ ᛊᚨᚲᚲ ᛟᚠ ᚱᛟᛗᛖ ᚠᛁᚱᛊᛏ ᛏᛁᛗᛖ ᛁᚾ 800 ᛁᛖᚨᚱᛊ BATAVIAN REVOLT 20 THOUSAND DEAD ROMANS LIGHT BATAVIAN CASUALTIES ᛒᚨᛏᚨᚢᛁᚨᚾ ᚱᛖᚢᛟᛚᛏ 20 ᛏᚺᛟᚢᛊᚨᚾᛞ ᛞᛖᚨᛞ ᚱᛟᛗᚨᚾᛊ ᛚᛁᚷᚺᛏ ᛒᚨᛏᚨᚢᛁᚨᚾ ᚲᚨᛊᚢᚨᛚᛏᛁᛖᛊ FRISIAN HANGING OF ROMAN TAX COLLECTORS ᚠᚱᛁᛊᛁᚨᚾ ᚺᚨᚾᚷᛁᚾᚷ ᛟᚠ ᚱᛟᛗᚨᚾ ᛏᚨX ᚲᛟᛚᛚᛖᚲᛏᛟᚱᛊ CIMBRI INVASIONS OF THE ROMAN REPUBLIC ᚲᛁᛗᛒᚱᛁ ᛁᚾᚢᚨᛊᛁᛟᚾᛊ ᛟᚠ ᛏᚺᛖ ᚱᛟᛗᚨᚾ ᚱᛖᛈᚢᛒᛚᛁᚲ FRANKISH DOMINATED ROMAN GAUL ᚠᚱᚨᚾᚲᛁᛊᚺ ᛞᛟᛗᛁᚾᚨᛏᛖᛞ ᚱᛟᛗᚨᚾ ᚷᚨᚢᛚ ANGLO SAXON OCCUPATION OF ROMAN BRITAIN ᚨᚾᚷᛚᛟ ᛊᚨXᛟᚾ ᛟᚲᚲᚢᛈᚨᛏᛁᛟᚾ ᛟᚠ ᚱᛟᛗᚨᚾ ᛒᚱᛁᛏᚨᛁᚾ GOTHIC CONQUEST OF ROMAN HISPANIA ᚷᛟᛏᚺᛁᚲ ᚲᛟᚾᚲᚢᛖᛊᛏ ᛟᚠ ᚱᛟᛗᚨᚾ ᚺᛁᛊᛈᚨᚾᛁᚨ GERMANIC DOMINANCE IN ITALY UNDER ODOACER, GOTHS AND LOMBARDS ᚷᛖᚱᛗᚨᚾᛁᚲ ᛞᛟᛗᛁᚾᚨᚾᚲᛖ ᛁᚾ ᛁᛏᚨᛚᛁ ᚢᚾᛞᛖᚱ ᛟᛞᛟᚨᚲᛖᚱ, ᚷᛟᛏᚺᛊ ᚨᚾᛞ ᛚᛟᛗᛒᚨᚱᛞᛊ GERMAN DOMINATED MEDIEVAL EUROPE ᚷᛖᚱᛗᚨᚾ ᛞᛟᛗᛁᚾᚨᛏᛖᛞ ᛗᛖᛞᛁᛖᚢᚨᛚ ᛖᚢᚱᛟᛈᛖ
>>530034257>faggot posts on /pol/Versus before thread #530034257:>no faggots posting on /pol/
>>530034257Rome was a serious Empire with lasting effects on Europe and subsequently the world. Why seethe? Admire the good, dump the bad.
>>530034257Roman society was brutal and degenerate. There's a reason Christianity spread like wildfire, it was genuinely an improvement for common people.
>>530034437You are delusional if you think being a slave in Rome was in any way good.
>>530036675Why would someone refuse some cute twinks
>>530034257Yea but medieval times had no legions or collusiums or aircraft carriers or skyscrapers.High civilization leads to kings leads to kingly monuments.
>>530034257It's crazy to think what it was like to live in the early middle ages, a few hundred years after the end of the Roman empire. You're a dirty peasant living in a wooden shack, but on your way to the fields you walk past huge ruined columns and marble structures and so forth. The few scribes living at that time definitely knew what the Roman Empire was but did the average person? They are literally inhabiting the ruins of a superior civilization. Today, we know this only from certain (post-apocalyptic) science fiction stories, but for them it was just the world in which they lived. Sometimes I feel like the more I think about the past, the more alien and strange it becomes. You can learn the facts about it but the experience of being there will always be elusive.
>>530038315shut up everyone left in italy after the collapse knew everything about their entire history you're just peddling the peasant has a peanut brain lie. it was gangster territory but they weren't retarded road kill like you think
>>530034769fun fact: steam machine was known in the antiquity, but used only as a toy, as slave labor was cheaper than investing in steam tech. Later slaves became expensive though
>>530036621Romans spent insane amount of resources fighting each other in civil wars. Some great leaders sought to unify the empire with Christianity, but they failed too
>>530034257lies, village life was the dream, city niggers always ruin everything just like Aristotle said
>>530037755It varied to a big extent. The slaves employed as private tutors for rich kids could have a luxurious life. Many made money and managed to buy freedom
>>530039806tthat's what European cities look likeThe most densely populated cities
>>530034257What about aqueducts you retard
